Death of Asad Shah

(74 Posts)
Keeptrudging Sat 26-Mar-16 18:19:32

Asad Shah death: Appeal for calm after shopkeeper attack -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35904406

Very sad reading this, it seems that Mr Shah was murdered by a fellow Muslim after posting Happy Easter messages. I don't know any more about this, but how sad that someone who believed in tolerance and integration has been murdered for this.

Keeptrudging Sat 26-Mar-16 18:20:18

Sorry, couldn't get link to work.sad

SauvignonPlonker Sat 26-Mar-16 18:48:15

Yes, very sad. My flat is about 30m away; I haven't lived there for about 10years. Shawlands has always been a diverse area. It's just an awful thing to have happened.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sat 26-Mar-16 18:54:56

It is awful. Although I'm not entirely sure it was simply about the Easter message as there was a discussion online about Mr Shah being a different denomination of Muslim which some Muslims don't recognise as being Muslim.

Regardless of the motivation it is a tragedy for Mr Shah's family and for the community which has always been happily diverse.

RIP Mr Shah.

notonyurjellybellynelly Sat 26-Mar-16 19:01:36

When the news first broke yesterday I said to my children, they're all Muslims - I have a horrible feeling another Muslim did this.

RIP Mr Shah.

Thank you for being you.

FuckOffJeffrey Sat 26-Mar-16 19:01:55

working link

I lived in this area for many years and can't quite believe something like this has happened. There is a second person (believed to be Mr Shah's brother) in hospital with serious injuries.

I still can't find the words to describe how I feel about all this sad

ExasperatedAlmostAlways Sat 26-Mar-16 19:03:29

It's absolutely shocking and tragic. its been an awful week for Glasgow.

YoScience Sat 26-Mar-16 19:03:51

It is awful! Too many horrible things happening in Glasgow just now.

emotionsecho Sat 26-Mar-16 19:04:41

I find this so very sad.

When it was reported as being a religious hate crime I did not expect it to have been from another Muslim.

It is truly a tragedy.

tribpot Sat 26-Mar-16 19:08:16

There is a fundraising page for his family. What a dreadful thing to have happened.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sat 26-Mar-16 19:15:20

When it was reported as being a religious hate crime I did not expect it to have been from another Muslim
I think most of us thought the same as you and that is possibly why Aamer Anwar suggested people not leap to conclusions.

VertigoNun Sat 26-Mar-16 19:19:09

Was it someone justifying behaviour by blaming another Muslim faction or someone from IS?

emotionsecho Sat 26-Mar-16 19:28:04

APlace very true, I think I jumped to the incorrect conclusion on this occasion because of the recent attacks/ongoing situation in Brussels and France, no excuse though.

BillSykesDog Sat 26-Mar-16 19:44:22

He's an Amadiyyah Muslim. Amidiyyah Muslims are the guys who sell poppies.

Ahmadiyyah Muslims are pretty blooming amazing, they teach peace and tolerance, reaching out to all other faiths and include some aspects of other religions in their worship including viewing Jesus as a figure of great significance. Some interesting reading here:

www.alislam.org/introduction/

We have a lot of Amadiyyah where I live and they do an awful lot of outreach to the wider community including charity work and becoming socially active within the wider community. They do an awful lot of good for Muslim and non-Muslim alike and have a genuine message of peace and tolerance for all.

Unfortunately they are viewed as heretics and blasphemers and horribly, horribly persecuted in much of the Islamic world, especially in Pakistan where that persecution is state sponsored and includes things like denial of passports and public services right up to violence and murder.

I assume that him being Amadiyyah is a large part of the reason. Not a massive surprise this sort of thing is happening sadly.

ASAS Sat 26-Mar-16 19:49:50

Another awful week for Glasgow. Who is living among us?

notonyurjellybellynelly Sat 26-Mar-16 19:55:21

I assume that him being Amadiyyah is a large part of the reason. Not a massive surprise this sort of thing is happening sadly

I think it could have happened to any of the lovely Muslims I've lived amongst for decades.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sat 26-Mar-16 19:58:53

emotions me too partly because it was so close to the Brussels' attack.

VertigoNun Sat 26-Mar-16 20:00:05

Poor man ment well.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sat 26-Mar-16 20:05:23

BillSykes thank you for the explanation. That was the basis of the discussion I read.

It's very concerning in the context of the wider discussion this week about the comments made by the Iman at the central mosque about blasphemy. I am very grateful Aamer Anwar is bringing it to a wider audience but worry he is putting himself at risk.

emotionsecho Sat 26-Mar-16 20:12:25

Bill thanks for the information, very interesting.

sportinguista Sat 26-Mar-16 21:41:48

Just feel so sorry for Mr Shah's family. A champion of tolerance slain. RIP.

Keeptrudging Sat 26-Mar-16 22:11:51

BillSykes thank you for that, I hadn't heard of this before. It just seems like people who would be violent anyway are using religion as an excuse for their actions, in the same way that others use football or race. That urge to hurt others has to be there already surely?

giraffesCantReachTheirToes Sat 26-Mar-16 22:21:53

I really didn't expect it to be carried out by another Muslim.

I assumed a Britain First type of twat.

Am disgusted though - know of people who knew him and he sounded a lovely man. The type of person I am delighted to have in our city.

As someone else said - a very sad week for Glasgow. (But loads of good people have rallied together to help too)

SpringingIntoAction Sat 26-Mar-16 22:27:54

Cameron needs to step up and make a very public proclamation that this sort of intolerance has no place in the Uk.

He could then start to clear the hate-preachers out of the mosques and stop permitting Saudi to fund new mosques in which hate-preachers spread the hateful Wahabbism.

But he won't

emotionsecho Sat 26-Mar-16 23:07:52

From everything said and written about Mr Shah he seemed a lovely man and an integral part of the community, such an awful, awful crime.

My heart goes out to his family.

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