hundreds dead and hundreds abducted in Syria

[StealthPolarBear]

Awful news coming out of Syria. Almost to the point I can't take it in any more.
Also why is this less newsworthy than snow on the bbc news?

[StealthPolarBear]

No one else need to talk about this? I'm feeling a building sense of doom

[oneowlgirl]

That is shocking Stealth - I just have no idea anymore about what is going on in the world. I try not to despair but this makes me feel so despairing that I struggle to cope with the news.

[StealthPolarBear]

Yes. Adults and children beheaded and crucified in the name of this religious war. I know the answer will be don't look, don't read, don't think about it and to some extent I'm throwing myself into my dull domesticity to escape it. But as an intelligent adult with my physical and mental health I feel as though I have a duty to read and think about it. This isn't like choosing to watch a scary film and regretting it. While im reading about this horror other people, families, are going through it.

[oneowlgirl]

I know Stealth - it's shocking & the worst part is the feeling of helplessness & the fact that there seems to be no end in sight.

[MumOnTheRunCatchingUp]

Yes I read this earlier. Horrific

[Rosa]

I read this this morning ... Its terrible and one wonders what it takes to get the rest of the world properly involved in stopping this.

[bluebolt]

How does this stop? it would take years to stop finance and weapon supplies to be cut off. People do not want the west to bomb them never mind send troops and there is no diplomatic lines that can be engaged. Other Middle East countries either seem not to give a shit or are too scared to get involved knowing they could be next. My hope is the depravity will soon be too much for those wishing to join the ranks which is why I would like to see more coverage and full images so those few who see these people as saviours of the world can see them as the barbarians that they are and not western propaganda.

[Alisvolatpropiis]

It is truly horrific.

I din't under the end goal of IS here, they are killing fellow Muslims (granted not ones who practice Islam in the psychotic manner they desire them to)?

[Pipistrella]

I think really once there's a better state of government in Syria and Iraq then this sort of shite will be a lot harder to get away with.

The trouble is there's a vacuum where no one's in charge.

that's how it has to end.

[StealthPolarBear]

But how do we get there

[originalmavis]

And these are Sunni? Is there no end to their depravity? And idiots here still trying to go off to join them?

What is the UN doing or tbe Arab league?

[MumOnTheRunCatchingUp]

Not much

Nobody can

[BungoWomble]

I don't know how a civil war can be stopped. No one ever did much when Yugoslavia imploded did they? Can't remember well... And that was in Europe.

Though bluebolt, no one wanted the bombing because that's such a totally ineffective military tactic. Sending troops in should be more effective if the generals have some good ideas.

[VertigoNun]

Heart breaking.

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

This has been going on for nearly two years now but when we hear about it in mass numbers it shocks us

Yet so many do not want us to do anything because we might make things worse how could it possibly be any worse than what is happening now

Though I would rather the United Nations would do more

[LittleMamaJama]

originalmavis- These are not Sunnis, they are not religious, in fact they are not human- some creatures who have been sent from hell to terrorise the world. I feel sick! .

[VertigoNun]

some creatures who have been sent from hell to terrorise the world.

This

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

Yes ISIS are Sunni Muslim and followers of Wahhabism an extreme and ultra conservative form of Sunni Islam

The have either been bought up as Muslim or converted but that is what they are and they believe their actions are justified in their ideology

Others of course disagree and it really does not need to be said that is the vast majority of Muslims

[anonymousnosides]

EnthusiasmDisturbed- I think you've totally misunderstood mama's point.

Just because ISIS say they are Sunnis or Muslims, does not mean they are- what they are doing is NOT Islam.

There are 1 billion muslims allover the world (still growing). If what ISIS is doing was true Islam, then the whole world would be wiped out in a flash!

[originalmavis]

Of course i did mean ' supposedly Sunni'. I saw an interesting news export saying that a lot of the daesh leaders are ex Iraqi military trying to keep on top of the pile. Add a few frothing religious figureheads to keep the stupid and idealistic youth on board and there you have it.

It does seem to be the converts and 'born agains' that have an especially warped view isn't it? I wonder why?

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

my reply wasn't to that post it was one earlier asking are they Sunni

They are Sunni Muslim what they are doing might not be considered Islamic by the vast majority of Muslims but that is what they identify being and they have support from Muslims and no doubt others too and where is there money coming from Jewish groups in Israel, Buddhists monks in Cambodia ?

By saying the are not is to say that Muslims are incapable of carrying out atrocious acts they are as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, atheist are some use religion or ideology to create fear and to justify their actions and will do it in the name of whatever but that is their belief what you are does not define your actions

Doesn't god decide if they are or not and they obviously have no fear in that they are doing the right thing and most people don't need telling what they are doing is not Islamic

ISIS are not quoting the bible are they they are not killing other Sunni Muslims they are not trying to convert others to follow Buddha or Christianity they want their warped form of Islam (that some clerics support) to have power and they are succeeding at an alarming rate

The crusades were Christian were their acts Christian no but that is what they were and claimed to be and based their logic on

[anonymousnosides]

I've tried hard to understand what you are saying, sadly your sentiments seem to be lost in syntax- so I give up!

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

Ok Well basically I am saying they identify themselves as Sunni Muslim that is what they believe in and they take their ideology from the koran

That really can't be argued with

[originalmavis]

I could call myself a wombat but it wouldn't make me one!

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

Yes and I could be a Christian, go to church, pray, read the bible daily, I may not always act in a Christian way but that is what I base my beliefs on and the religion I follow or could do if I choose to and believe myself to be

If I had said that ISIS represent all Muslims and true Islam then I would be wrong I have not said that but I can't say they are not Muslim when that is what they base their beliefs on however twisted it's not from other religions