Why are the ProPalestininian protestors so violent?

(51 Posts)
Mummywentshopping Thu 31-Jul-14 08:24:20

Watching the propalestinian protestors is quite scary, the seem very violient. why can't they march peacefully? I've been watching them on the news protest in different countries and they cause criminal damage to property, yesterday they beat up a Hassidic family who had to be hospitalised, and they cover their faces like criminals. Just wondering why they can't convey their message peacefully.

wafflyversatile Thu 31-Jul-14 08:31:07

Maybe they were a little bit upset at the Israelis singing Gaza doesn't need any schools because all their children are dead. Binning schools isn't very peaceable either.

Protests are highly emotional. Most people are peaceful but some get carried away and some people use it as an excuse to vandalise or be violent.

Its not limited to people demonstrating against the Israeli assault on Gaza.

wafflyversatile Thu 31-Jul-14 08:31:42

Bombing not binning

I'm pretty sure that it wasn't all protesters, as with any protest they are always a few who go to far. Bit unfair to tarnish them all, I'm not violent, and neither anyone who protested anywhere near me were either.

Mummywentshopping Thu 31-Jul-14 09:01:24

waffly - I'm talking about the protests before that singing clip went around. i agree its not everyone but you can't deny they are very violent - the ones in the group with their faces covered. in france they rioted like the riots we had in the UK a while back. I watched them protest in the tunnels somewhere in london and they are really violent.

timbucktoo Thu 31-Jul-14 09:24:48

Can you post links please

Kendodd Thu 31-Jul-14 09:32:01

I agree they shouldn't be violent, it doesn't help their cause at all, makes it worse.

I guess they feel the world it just looking on doing nothing though (they're right). I heard on the news this morning that despite it's protests about the bombing the US is sending Israel more ammunition because it's supplies are depleted.

wafflyversatile Thu 31-Jul-14 12:14:02

I haven't seen protests in tunnels this time. The other year a friend was at a protest against Gaza being bombed by Israel in London and she got charged in a tunnel by police on horseback, is that the violence you mean?

Protests lapse into violence sometimes. It's not particular to protests against Israel bombing Palestine.

Morloth Thu 31-Jul-14 13:04:07

The mob is only as smart as its dumbest member.

People on both sides are very very angry.

Dontlaugh Thu 31-Jul-14 23:56:04

Peaceful protests are much more effective.
Mind you, bombing the life out of children, families, schools and hospitals would probably raise my blood pressure a little. I can understand the anger.

Springheeled Fri 01-Aug-14 00:46:02

mummywentshopping having been on protests in London against the sickening actions of the Israeli govt I can tell you that the protestors ranged in age from babies in prams to the very elderly, that many children were present and people of all faiths. There was no violence whatsoever, many smiling faces and people assembled peacefully in their thousands to listen to the speeches.

With all due respect, you are talking crap.

Springheeled Fri 01-Aug-14 00:49:45

Ps mummy what an odd thing, to join mumsnet purely to post a factual untruth about Pro Palestine protests. If I was going to join a parenting forum to make a comment about anything that had particularly worried or concerned me this week, I think I might have chosen the indiscriminate slaughter of children in Gaza. Each to their own!

Patrickstarisabadbellend Fri 01-Aug-14 00:55:29

I just hope to god we stay out if it.

ThatBloodyWoman Fri 01-Aug-14 00:58:31

Mummy.

Whenever there is a demonstration, people will always shit stir and allege violence, infiltration etc etc., to try to muddy the water and discredit the protestors.

Bored of hearing it tbh.

If individuals have committed crimes, I'm sure the pokice will deal with it, so don't worry.Instead start worrying about what is going on in Gaza....

littleducks Fri 01-Aug-14 01:22:20

Really? I haven't seen in this in the news. ... ever. .. Do you have any links?

There probably are a few idiots as you would expect in any protest. But as a widespread phenomena I'm surprised not to have heard about it.

Maybe it's true. Maybe that story about pro Israeli bloggers using social media and message boards in a collaborated effort to rally support for their cause is true. I thought it was a wacko conspiracy theory. Maybe not.

Oh and the bastards chanting "there are no schools as we killed all the children".... There are no words. sad

Yruapita Fri 01-Aug-14 03:05:37

What utter depth of depravity have those people reached who sing such songs, who watch the children dying from hilltops whilst eating popcorn, who cheer as bombs drop.

Just wondering why they are such disgusting specimens for human beings.

MexicanSpringtime Fri 01-Aug-14 03:32:28

I cannot say anything better than has already been said here, but talk about having your priorities all wrong, OP.
Besides nowadays all protests are being infiltrated by agents provocateurs with the media strategically positioned to film them. And this is not a conspiracy theory, despite the obvious anger that people feel about the shooting fish in a pond attitude of Israel towards Palestinian children, but something I have seen again and again.

PigletJohn Fri 01-Aug-14 03:37:05

I was wondering why anti-Palestinian demonstrators in Israel are so violent. Can anyone tell me why the deputy mayor of Haifa and his son should have been beaten unconscious with iron bars?

Mummywentshopping, as you're concerned about violence, how would you explain it? Do you think it is just part of the undercurrent of racist and ethnic hatred in Israel?

Mummywentshopping Fri 01-Aug-14 10:02:44

Hi sorry taken so long to reply been busy. I cant remember my log in details so reregistered. is that ok with you? Im being verbally attacked by several of you which is ironic because my post is about violence by pro palestinian protestors!

Ive only got a few minutes but I've read the comments and so many excuses for the violence. there is no excuse for violence - see Nelson Mandela!

I wanted to talk about the violence I've seen on with pro palestinian protestors and the replies are about Israelis in Haifa?? Israelis singing etc.
I don't feel safe around pro palestininan protestors and I'm shocked that rather than accept the fact that they do cause criminal damage and are violent, I'm being dragged into a political debate.

Levantine Fri 01-Aug-14 10:16:57

Mummy I haven't seen any violence on protests in London. Do you have any evidence? I was on Saturday's march and I found it a very sombre occasion. Lots of families there.

PigletJohn Fri 01-Aug-14 10:31:20

Mummy is "shocked" that she has triggered a political debate by making a vague and unsupported political allegation.

Springheeled Fri 01-Aug-14 11:01:00

Nice try.

I felt entirely safe in an enormous crowd because I knew that every person there cared about human rights and the lives of innocents.

Shallishanti Fri 01-Aug-14 11:08:54

where is this supposed to have happened?

and what has Nelson Mandela to do with it?

ThePeoplePleaser Fri 01-Aug-14 11:13:43

Very odd.

I live in London where the protests have been and have heard and seen nothing of the sort. I've been told nothing by friends who go either. Links please

PigletJohn Fri 01-Aug-14 11:21:54

It looks very much as if the OP wanted to throw in a vague and unsupported smear, and has nothing useful to add.

We did get quite an outbreak of such things in the last few days.

I have no idea why.

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