Russia has invaded Ukraine

(385 Posts)
ohmymimi Fri 28-Feb-14 18:38:17

Not a shot fired. Putin outwits the West and who/what will stop him getting his way?

Oblomov Fri 28-Feb-14 18:39:06

blimey

Cocolepew Fri 28-Feb-14 18:41:43

Really? Oh dear.

Indith Fri 28-Feb-14 18:41:50

where is that published? Or is BBC website just behind?

MrsBucketxx Fri 28-Feb-14 18:43:00

They are in crimea which wants to be Russian anyway. It's not been confirmed either.

Crimea was gifted to the Ukraine in early 20th century its never been truly integrated. Not news if you know your history.

ohmymimi Fri 28-Feb-14 18:43:39

All over the news, all channels.

ohmymimi Fri 28-Feb-14 18:45:45

That's me told then, Mrs. Superior, patronizing and arrogant in one post. Score.

Lottiedoubtie Fri 28-Feb-14 18:45:47
Indith Fri 28-Feb-14 18:46:02

Not got TV on. All I have online is crimea, Ukraine accusing invasion and Russia denying. A whole load of mistrust.

Not that Ukraine is wrong to mistrust Russia. Not wrong at all.

Onesleeptillwembley Fri 28-Feb-14 18:47:33

Spot on Mrs. The hysterical OP and title was a tad OTT b

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 18:49:32

Blimey

ohmymimi Fri 28-Feb-14 18:53:59

Right on claig - unless you are expressing surprise at my sudden bout of hysteria? hmm

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 18:55:04

Don't panic. There is no invasion. Some troops have taken over airport etc, but they are not officially supposed to be Russian troops.

SantanaLopez Fri 28-Feb-14 18:58:01

WTF?

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob Fri 28-Feb-14 18:58:44

That popped up on my bbc newsflash on my ipad this morning, then I didn't see anymore about it.

RhondaJean Fri 28-Feb-14 19:00:29

Russia were saying it's not their troops. That was on tea time radio news.

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:01:30

Some soldiers have taken control of airport and have set up roadblocks in Crimea, and just now Sky said that airspace over Crimea has been closed.

But hostilities have not started yet.

ohmymimi Fri 28-Feb-14 19:03:47

That's alright, then, if they are unofficial Russian troops we can all relax. Are the they unofficial transport 'planes, troop carriers and 'copters as well? Vlad's a fast mover, isn't he?

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:04:12

'Russia were saying it's not their troops.'

Officially it is not their troops, but some analysts think it is Russian troops but without insignia or something. Analyst said that the troops have removed cartridges fromtheir guns, which shows that they are professionals, because ordinary militia and people would not remove cartridges.

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:05:41

I don't thik we can relax.
Heard Paddy Ashdown on Radio 4 news at lunchtime and he didn't spell it out, but my impression from reading between the lines is that some sort of conflict is not unlikely.

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:08:47

The frightening thing is that I think that the whole revolution was planned and therefore the planners had made plans for what comes next, which means that they are probably prepared to have a clash.

It now all depends on what Putin does.

meditrina Fri 28-Feb-14 19:17:28

The extent of Russian actions in Crimea isn't terribly clear. Yes, there are events which suggest there is a more widespread presence than allowed for by the standing naval agreement. But how large and what types isn't clear, let alone under what tasks are envisaged or under what circumstances force might be used.

I hope it's sabre-rattling, with aim of ensuring that the voice of ethnic Russian population in Ukraine is not lost following the ousting.

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:23:45

John McCain, who is usually a bellicose guy, said on Channel 4 News that he thinks Putin will try to take steps to ensure that Crimea and possibly some of East Ukraine will remain part of Russia.

He didn't believe the US would intervene militarily, as far as I understood him, but they would use sanctions if necessary.

So that does not sound like war. McCain said that militarily, Putin can be assured that the US woud not use force.

claig Fri 28-Feb-14 19:26:13

McCain says by no means is it a return to the Cold War.

PetiteRaleuse Fri 28-Feb-14 19:27:19

I don't see how this can end well. At least not any time soon. It is pretty worrying.

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