Well done Ed Miliband for speaking out about the Daily Mail's article on his father

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claig Tue 01-Oct-13 15:05:00

The Daily Mail used a low tactic of accusing Ed miliband's father of hating Britain.

I think it was a nasty thing to do. Just because someone is a Marxist and may criticise some aspects of the country or its instiutions does not mean that they hate Britain.

PetiteRaleuse Mon 07-Oct-13 09:42:22

Extremists in any field give the moderates a bad name but they are a necessary evil to help put things in perspective I think.

claig Mon 07-Oct-13 10:26:04

We mentioned the condescending views so many of our elite and supposedly educated class have towards the French earlier on.

On the Andrew Marr Show this Sunday, they had the brilliant Frrench singer Zaz on, whom I have never heard of. I was blown away, it was amazing.

But luckily she didn't speak too good English so she couldn't understand Andrew Marr's clumsy, insulting, condescending question to her

"Has French music come of age, do you think?"

That idiot showed his ignorance and his rudeness at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_r5b-N3_g

PetiteRaleuse Mon 07-Oct-13 10:33:26

Ooh yes, good job she didn't understand that. Just because french music isn't to British tastes on the whole doesn't mean to say it hasn't got a huge following in France and Canada.

claig Mon 07-Oct-13 10:41:39

It is some of the best music in the whole world.
The ignorant buffoon.

The reason that English artists have been so successful is because of the English language, and they only followed and initially copied the American artists.

To claim that the French can't do pop shows the fool's insularity and blinkered understanding of the world outside his BBC studio.

HesterShaw Mon 07-Oct-13 22:06:25

France has produced some of the most elegant and beautiful composers of music ever <gavel>

claig Mon 07-Oct-13 22:11:39

Well said, HesterShaw.

I have been reading up on Zaz, they call her "la nouvelle Piaf".
It doesn't get much better than Piaf.

HesterShaw Mon 07-Oct-13 22:12:45

I'm going to look up Zaz.

claig Mon 07-Oct-13 22:20:03

On youtube there are some clips of her busking live in the street in Montmartre. She is better live than in the studio, because the studio can't capture her raw feeling, power and energy.

This is the same song "Je Veux" live in the street.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ9zeDd0mpg

HesterShaw Mon 07-Oct-13 22:24:54

Oh goodness, I'm completely in love with her!

HesterShaw Mon 07-Oct-13 22:26:18

(though I may have to get better at French).

limitedperiodonly Mon 07-Oct-13 22:26:39

I'm afraid I scrambled for the remote yesterday. I found her very yowly.

HesterShaw Mon 07-Oct-13 22:26:42

Off topic, much? grin

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