One man and the 'immigrants go home' advertisement.

(161 Posts)
NicholasTeakozy Mon 29-Jul-13 13:35:54

Pukkah Punjabi asks the Home Office to pay for his taxi from Harrow to Willesden. What an enterprising chap! grin

musicismylife Thu 08-Aug-13 20:58:08

Anewdispensation-you are so right, spot on.

People like to forget their uncomfortable history whilst residing in superiority.

kim147 Sun 04-Aug-13 21:53:27

In the whole scheme of things, illegal immigration is not too much of an issue compared to the genuine and perfectly legal immigration from other countries.

I can't understand how people can't see the problem with "go home". I've had children I teach tell me they've been told to "go home" (normally followed by "You fucking....".

What effect do they think this campaign will have on illegal immigrants or should I say #immigration offenders?

What about asylum seekers? Will the Home office be happy with people shouting this on the streets? Mass demos with people shouting this?

Forgetfulmog Sat 03-Aug-13 13:43:26

Everyone you know hates the EU?! Christ I didn't realise people actually thought like this.

How do you think the UK will cope without the EU Tabitha? What about all the UK laws that have been made as a result of EU directives & that have benefitted the UK? You know what, actually I'm not sure I can even be arsed to have an argument over this. You carry on in your own little bubble love & I, & people like me, will live in reality.

TabithaStephens Sat 03-Aug-13 12:17:05

How many illegal Aussie and Kiwi immigrants do you think there are, WafflyVersatile? My guess is not very many.

The sooner we leave the EU, and are free of the blasted ECHR, the better. I do not think the referendum will be even close. Everyone I know hates the EU and everything it stands for.

WafflyVersatile Sat 03-Aug-13 10:31:57

The adverts are not aimed at illegal immigrants. They are aimed at us. It's all about keeping us too busy hating each other and blaming each other to see that it is the wealthy and powerful who are fucking us over, as per usual.

If they want to get rid of illegal immigrants they can raid all the Aussie and NZ pubs and catch all the overstayers.

NotAsTired Sat 03-Aug-13 10:20:18

in a campaign.

NotAsTired Sat 03-Aug-13 10:19:14

When I saw the bbc report on this van, I was incredulous. And it made me feel a bit sick too.

I remember as a child and as a teenager, people shouting at me from cars "Paki, go home."

So yes, telling people to go home is very loaded language, its offensive and I despair at a government who uses it as a campaign.

MadBannersAndCopPorn Wed 31-Jul-13 20:00:05

"Once it is established that you are here illegally, there should be no right of further appeal"

"Deny access to the NHS, housing, and so forth for illegals."

Fuck it- they should just put these slogans on their vans.......

Forgetfulmog Wed 31-Jul-13 19:55:53

How on earth is withdrawal from the ECHR a good idea????

ttosca Wed 31-Jul-13 19:49:26

> require validated proof of address to access any and all public services, including the NHS and schools; with frequent immigration checks on that data. Deny access to the NHS, housing, and so forth for illegals.

Awesome! So homeless people don't get medical treatment. Nor do people who have fled abusive homes, including women and children.

ttosca Wed 31-Jul-13 19:45:37

Yeah, who cares if they get sent back to their country and get tortured, raped and killed. The EHCR is for pussies....

longfingernails Wed 31-Jul-13 07:32:23

This van is stupid.

Illegal immigrants SHOULD be deported - it sends a message of deterrence, and would free up housing, school places, etc. But the way to do it is not a poster saying "please go".

The way to do it includes things like:
- if you are in this country illegally, you are deported without any legal loopholes. Appeals should focus only on whether you are here illegally; once it is established that you are here illegally, there should be no right of further appeal. Might require withdrawal from the ECHR, but that is a good idea anyway.
- offer a payment by results to any company or individual depending on the number of illegals they deport.
- require validated proof of address to access any and all public services, including the NHS and schools; with frequent immigration checks on that data. Deny access to the NHS, housing, and so forth for illegals.

There's nothing wrong with populism, but it has to be backed up with effective policy.

IOnlyNameChangeInACrisis Wed 31-Jul-13 07:14:17

Gosh, it's exciting to be part of a whole brigade.

I agree this campaign is actually aimed at appeasing xenophobes rather than actually doing anything effective about illegal immigration. As a legal migrant, I'm offended and irritated by it. And I think Pukkah Punjabi's wind-up is really funny and a great response to such a nasty little campaign.

Weegiemum Wed 31-Jul-13 06:55:06

One of my dd1's best friends arrived here as a illegal immigrant from the DRC, with her parents. Her father was an outspoken critic of the government there and had to leave for his own and his family's safety - they literally got on the next plane, leaving 3 older sons in hiding.

At that time the uk wasn't accepting refugees from their country. They stayed, and applied for refugee status, which then allowed their boys to join them.

They can never "go home" because the father would be killed within days.

I'm glad I live in a country where people like this feel safe!

NicholasTeakozy Wed 31-Jul-13 06:47:57

Bye Ninj, you'll be missed. Your views won't though.

TheFallenNinja Wed 31-Jul-13 06:42:18

Goody. Here come the "your wrong" brigade.

I'm out of here before it gets "crashingly" boring.

KingRollo Wed 31-Jul-13 06:33:25

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KingRollo Wed 31-Jul-13 06:31:03

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TheFallenNinja Wed 31-Jul-13 06:22:10

Undocumented migrant. Love it.

It doesn't really matter if someone thinks it is racist or not - it matter if it causes harm to the wider population of people perceived to be migrants - which it will as it's designed to stir people up and cause anger - as well as harm to the agencies trying to get undocumented workers to leave or get current documentation as they will now be flooded with false and unreliable information. Happens every time something like this happens. These are never well organized with all the needed agencies, as in this case where few seem to know what is going on, and never act to protect others who could be harmed by this.

Seriously, people need to stop protecting themselves and their things from accusations of racism - we live in a world where little really happens to racists so why waste the energy - and try to see the actual harm that comes out of actions. Regardless of whether or not you see it as racist, it will cause harm to many people and harm your cause of moving on undocumented workers. That alone should earn it your contempt.

TabithaStephens Wed 31-Jul-13 00:07:46

There's nothing racist about telling illegal immigrants that they are not welcome here.

Chandras Tue 30-Jul-13 23:23:00

Appologies for the typos... Never goid at texting...

Chandras Tue 30-Jul-13 23:22:13

This teminds me of the worst bigot I know, she can splurt racism for hours and if you point out what she said is racist her answer is "it's not racist, is the truth" (rolls eyes).

JulieMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-Jul-13 22:43:36

Forgetfulmog

Was that aimed at me Julie? If so, I didn't realise I was doing anything wrong shock.

<pops off to read Talk Guidelines>

No, not unless you've been up to mischief!

Forgetfulmog Tue 30-Jul-13 22:03:50

Was that aimed at me Julie? If so, I didn't realise I was doing anything wrong shock.

<pops off to read Talk Guidelines>

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