stuart hall haa pleaded guilty

(114 Posts)
mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:31:13

The entertainer Stuart hall has pleaded guilty to the sex offences he was charged with... I believe one was against a 9yo girl.

I was shocked by him being arrested.... Now, I'm just saddened.

BBC news has reported this on the website, ill link in a minute.

LineRunner Sun 05-May-13 18:29:37

If she's colluding, they should sue her.

iclaudius Sun 05-May-13 15:12:36

Yes she's happy to have his assets in her name lest the poor unfortunates who are ruining her husbands life should hassle him for it

lisaro Sun 05-May-13 14:45:33

And the sick bastard had akready started disposing of his assets to his wife. Sorry, but his wife is involved, even if she didnt actually touch the peopke herself. Evil bitch.

iclaudius Sun 05-May-13 14:22:15

A candle - similar story - loads of friends at the court all loud and proud. We were huddled in some hidden room - the irony
Hard to stomach!

Acandlelitshadow Sun 05-May-13 11:13:25

Quite, iclaudius.

Abuser had plenty of support in court. Friends and family. Same people even when they heard exactly what he had done spelled out in evidence and a guilty plea. He's not wealthy so perhaps they justified it as supporting MIL. No difference to us.

And we are the bad guys for pursuing justice hmm

iclaudius Sat 04-May-13 20:51:08

my family all stand by the abusive patriarch
he is wealthy
he buys people stuff

CFSKate Sat 04-May-13 11:19:32

CredulousThicko - how odd, it was there, I just copied and pasted it. It's mentioned on twitter.

Jux Sat 04-May-13 11:16:10

Fear. Fear of the unknown, fear of being wrong, fear of all sorts of things. We have no idea what an abuser's spousal relationship can be like. We know that an awful lot of women are so scared of their husbands when they are the victims that they stay and stay despite all sorts of things which would normally be deal-breakers. I know a woman whose jaw was broken by her h. They're still together, even though he slaps their dd around too - and always did.

SH liked screwing young girls. That doesn't mean he was utterly wonderful as a husband. He could easily have bullied his wife, or beat her, or anything, so that she is a shell of what she was and has no faith in herself. Just like so women on the relationships boards here.

One form of abuse doesn't preclude any other taking place.

HotheadPaisan Sat 04-May-13 07:35:38

Hall so sorry he's disposing of his assets to avoid compensation claims:

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/04/stuart-hall-home

Acandlelitshadow Fri 03-May-13 18:31:31

I agree too, jennymac.

How it couldn't be a complete dealbreaker is beyond my comprehension. I do think in MIL's case that she had been subtly manipulated for years before the abuse came to light and these men (along with the predatory women who also offend) are of course masters of manipulation and deceit. That doesn't stop once they've been exposed.

iclaudius - I'm so glad your abuser got a jail sentence. Having fought all the way to the High Court for a review of 'our' perp's sentence and seeing it increased to a jail term (sadly less than it should have been but better than the nothing he got beforehand) I'm very hopeful Hall and others of his ilk will see the inside of a cell too.

handcream Fri 03-May-13 17:41:54

I did wonder about money and status. I am a huge film fan - mainly old Hollywood films. Most of the leading men in Hollywood had affair after affair yet their wives clung on for dear life in many cases despite being treated with little respect.

And yes, a close relative had an abusive ex partner. She had no real reason to stay, well qualifed, very supportive family - yet she did and made excuse after excuse for him and worried her parents sick. The only reason it broke up was because HE decided it should finish.

She claimed she 'loved him'.

Pan Fri 03-May-13 17:38:04

There is the possibility that women remain with such men because they love them.

HotheadPaisan Fri 03-May-13 17:22:10

Not sure why the conversation should focus on women. What drove and enabled him to do what he did is the main question.

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 17:21:30

Money?

handcream Fri 03-May-13 17:18:26

Can someone tell me why women stand by these sorts of men. Its not the affairs as the underage element in all of this for me. One of the victims is 9 yrs old!

I am wondering if its the same reason why women stay with men who are violent to them - because perhaps they fear they dont want to be alone and there is no where to go.

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 17:07:48

Agree jenny

boxershorts Fri 03-May-13 14:08:13

The BBC were regarded as tame and establishment in far off days. Little did we know

jennymac Fri 03-May-13 13:38:19

I don't understand why women stay with men who do this kind of thing. How could you even stand to breath the same air as them never mind share a house/bed?

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 11:47:48

Acandlelitshadow my experience exactly - so common and heartbreaking for the victim

Acandlelitshadow Fri 03-May-13 11:28:27

I don't know if his wife will leave him but partner or family standing by an abuser along with ostricising a victim who has spoken up and/or their supporters is astonishingly common.

MIL has chosen this route. I can only assume rather than live alone but as she's split the family irrevocably I don't suppose I'll ever find out.

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 11:20:25

'Abuser' gah sorry !!

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 11:19:49

Sorry must preview 'five ' days
Didn't expect a 'prison'

iclaudius Fri 03-May-13 11:18:56

My abuser did that 'admission of lesser charges' bit - in the hope of getting off the court case
I still proceeded for mental health reasons as although the worst give days of my life - court was therapeutic
I didn't expect a oration sentence for my abusee but he got one - I think hall will
These arrogant middle class men
His wife won't leave him - he's rich

donnie Fri 03-May-13 11:06:19

He is on the front page of every newspaper today. I hope he feels utter shame and degredation. Because that is what he deserves.

Northender and Billysilly - you are brave and courageous and we all support you. People like the ones who abused you are calculating bullies.

mouseymummy Fri 03-May-13 09:54:49

NotDavid, quite possible, however, as the rape charge has been "placed on file" if the woman chooses or if new evidence comes to light or someone else comes forward, then he will be tried for that too.

I really hope that no one else has suffered at the hands of this evil, vile piece of work, if they have then I pray that they have the strength and courage to come forward.

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