stuart hall haa pleaded guilty

(114 Posts)
mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:31:13

The entertainer Stuart hall has pleaded guilty to the sex offences he was charged with... I believe one was against a 9yo girl.

I was shocked by him being arrested.... Now, I'm just saddened.

BBC news has reported this on the website, ill link in a minute.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:32:39

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286

This is the link.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:33:48
HotheadPaisan Thu 02-May-13 10:34:37

Does that mean the women won't have to go through giving evidence at a trial? I really hope so. Well done to them for coming forward, must have been very, very difficult.

I believe every single person coming forward about abuse, I hope there are many convictions and this sees a massive change in how we respond to those reporting rape and sexual assault.

finickypinickity Thu 02-May-13 10:35:53

Thank God the women dont have to stand up in court and re live the whole experience.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:47:41

Yes, the next stage will be him being sentenced but the awful thing is, due to his age and health I don't think he is going to be punished.... I honestly think he may walk away from court... That does not sit well.

I'm honestly, so grateful that these women have had the courage to come forward, hopefully there will now be more women believed and this will lead to a higher conviction rate for rape and sexual assault, not just against women but men too.

georgedawes Thu 02-May-13 10:48:53

Three months after dismissing the allegations against him as "pernicious, callous, cruel and above all spurious", he was forced to admit that his victims had been telling the truth.
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/02/stuart-hall-admits-sexual-abuse-girls

what a nasty man.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:49:14

He's apologised to his victims outside court... Omfg...

HotheadPaisan Thu 02-May-13 10:49:37

Surely not, I very much doubt it. Do they consider other complaints when sentencing as they do with other crimes or just sentence on the charges so far? Surely if no prison others will just come forward. He will go to prison, am sure of it, they were very young.

schilke Thu 02-May-13 10:51:16

Same as you mouseymummy. I used to love listening to his football reports on 5live. Feel let down - if that makes sense.

schilke Thu 02-May-13 10:54:55

Not sure if that came out right. He is an awful man. Those women were very brave. Another man from childhood telly who was not as he seemed.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 10:58:35

When he is sentenced it will be for the charges he's admitted in court.

My feeling is he's 85 and from what I've read, not in the best of health. I fear he may walk away with a suspended sentence... No matter what sentence he gets, it won't be enough imo, I have a dd who will be 9 in June so I'm rather affected by that iyswim.

Schlike, yes, let down kinda sums it up. Rh was another I was shocked by, the rest of the people arrested I've always felt something against them, never felt comfortable watching them on screen.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 11:03:48

George, just read that article... It would seem like the man has no shame and was probably willing to go through with the trial until better advised.

I'm just hoping that this all comes to an outcome where women and children are believed and supported properly as they should have been then.

Over the last few days Ive seen and heard people question whether these historic cases should go ahead as it would be hard to prove such old abuse. This just goes to show that yes it is right that these men should be held for account, however long ago.

I hope now all theseamazing woman who had the courage to come forward and who were young children at the time, can feel that they have been heard and believed.

mouseymummy Thu 02-May-13 11:46:46

Well said dreams... Hopefully, all the victims in these cases will get justice.

SoupDragon Thu 02-May-13 12:02:55

due to his age and health I don't think he is going to be punished

I imagine there are other punishments than a custodial sentence. Every one knows who he is and what he has done.

Lottapianos Thu 02-May-13 12:09:55

I really hope this news gives all the naysayers a long difficult pause for thought - like my colleague who was talking yesterday about how these women (in the Bill Roache allegations) should have done something about it at the time, and it's all getting a bit silly with bringing up all these old allegations.

I think it's really good news and I hope it brings some peace to the women (girls at the time of course) he abused. Vile man.

I agree that having his reputation so thoroughly destroyed and so near the end of his life will be a huge punishment for him, but I do think he deserves a custodial sentence as well.

olgaga Thu 02-May-13 12:14:51

How awful. I applaud his victims for their bravery in coming forward.

Feel rather sad for his family and friends who supported him, no doubt this will have been a massive shock to them.

specialsubject Thu 02-May-13 12:15:14

I am saddened and disillusioned too. However I don't see much point taking up a prison place with him, and paying to feed and house him. He is sufficiently well-known that he is not a risk to the public - no-one is going to give him any opportunity to commit the crimes ever again.

He is shamed, shown to be a liar as well as a criminal and proven guilty in his lifetime. Justice is done, and he will not go to his grave laughing as did Jimmy Savile.

EldritchCleavage Thu 02-May-13 12:16:21

How dreadful that his previous solicitor characterised the complaints as 'a clear pursuit of celebrity'. Ugh.

So sickened by this. He probably thought that as he just put his hand up a girl's dress it wouldn't matter. She was 9 at the time sad.

Bastard.

AnyaKnowIt Thu 02-May-13 12:31:55

What a vile excuse of a man.

I do hope he goes to prison.

pickledginger Thu 02-May-13 12:33:41

To all those who have suffered abuse, we believe you.

I don't care when it happened, we believe you.

HotheadPaisan Thu 02-May-13 12:37:43

He must go to prison, it will be an absolute travesty if he doesn't.

HotheadPaisan Thu 02-May-13 12:38:55

He has to lose his liberty, I will be absolutely shocked if he doesn't. What message would that send?

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