5 year old kills his sister with his birthday gun in US

(84 Posts)
Slainte Wed 01-May-13 20:10:38

Title says it all, here's the link.

When will people fucking learn? angry

CheerfulYank Thu 02-May-13 13:29:24

Stealth we actually do have a gun...an unloaded hunting rifle in our (locked) garage.

Yes it does seem to be concentrated by state. I lived in a different one when I was very young and I don't remember much wrt to guns. When we moved it was to rural areas and they were everywhere, for hunting. I live in another rural community now and I'd guess the majority have them as the majority of people hunt. But they also take pride in being "responsible gun owners" so you don't ever see them. A gun standing in the corner of the room is unheard of.

My BIL, as mentioned, is a dumbass. And he has all sorts of guns and lets his 7 year old shoot them, which I would not allow. But he would never leave a gun sitting around.

My friends who got the gun for their DD are a bit worrisome. They are both vets and both have PTSD to varying degrees. They see the world as a dangerous place and want their girls to know how to defend themselves. I had let DS play over there in the past but after some comments they've made he is not allowed now because I don't trust that their weapons are locked away.

CheerfulYank Thu 02-May-13 13:34:03

I've really got no problems with guns for hunting as long as they're properly looked after. But to give them to children is madness IMO and to leave them around like this couple is beyond reprehensible. Criminal negligence for sure.

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 02-May-13 14:44:32

Thanks. Comments aboutbthe 7yo are scary. Ds is 6, I cannot imagine allowing him ti shoot in a year

CheerfulYank Thu 02-May-13 15:02:53

Right. I mean, my nephew isn't just running around with the guns or anything, BIL lets him shoot at targets if he's right there. But I wouldn't allow my DS to do that at 7 either.

bollockstoit Thu 02-May-13 15:17:09

It's hard to imagine the mindset of these people. I got a bit nervous because ds was carrying around a well-sharpened pencil the other day. I am probably overly anxious, but still.

Whatalotofpiffle Sun 05-May-13 23:56:39

That's awful. I can't get my head round guns being all over the place, terrifying.

The NRA are baffling me. They accuse Obama of using "tragic accidents" to open a debate about gun control for personal or political reasons.

I just can't get my head around a community where gun use/ownership is so commonplace that any attempt to control it is like saying you can't have domestic animals, or lock your own front door, or something.

But if it starts when you're an infant then no wonder I suppose sad

phantomnamechanger Mon 06-May-13 10:01:24

how unbelievably tragic the whole scenario is, and that these sort of people cannot see this is NOT just "a terrible accident" - it was negligent plain and simple. The children are too young to fully understand and in any case, the responsibility lies with the parents to supervise guns properly. That they have pretty pink girly accessories is also worrying that these things are just seen as pretty accessories rather than lethal weapons. The little girl could just as easily have shot herself or brother or her mum.
The crap about "it was her time" makes my blood boil.

Yesterday my 11yo accidently shot her bro in the eye with a foam dart from a nerf gun - they know the rules about not firing in peoples faces or close up, it was an accident while she was loading it - both were shocked and DS was hurt and cried. This sort of thing WILL happen, but no harm done in our case cos the bullet was foam!

We live in the UK and in a quiet sleepy village, but even then I have told my kids if they EVER see a gun in the bushes at the park or somewhere, they DO NOT TOUCH IT

I've just come back from a weekend in pocono mountains, in Pennsylvania. We were spending the time at an indoor water park, think Center Parcs but American stylee. There were large notices by the main entrance forbidding bringing fire arms onto the premises. The fact that there is a need for a sign telling people this beggars belief.
I will be going on a 'mothers against guns' rally this weekend. Apparently we can expect nra members to turn up and, as licencising permits it in Pennsylvania, to be wandering around carrying guns.

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