I won't let my children play with friends I deem beneath them

(130 Posts)
Millais Thu 21-Feb-13 00:20:36

I know it is in the DM - can't go to bed yet and needing to stay awake.
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2281959/I-wont-let-children-play-friends-I-deem-beneath--thats-caring-mothers-Apprentice-star-admits-targets-playmates-good-influence.html

Surely this must be a joke- how can she or her children face their classmates on Monday?

lrichmondgabber Fri 08-Mar-13 11:41:21

well, classes are bout people mixing with others in similar circumstances. And we have a rabid class system So why the suprise at the op

dashoflime Sat 02-Mar-13 12:21:47

Oh dear God, where to start....

How about here:

First off we have a really snotty catalogue of little Charmaine's working class signifiers followed by: "a study confirms exactly what I have always believed. Academic success is infectious. Pupils 'catch' cleverness from their friends."

Unless that study covered the influence of pink leggings, electronic toys, pierced ears and soft play on intellectual development- then the study does not "confirm" her stupid prejudices.

Cleverness is not an exclusive middle class trait- IQ varies among individuals of all classes. Class privilege can effect attainment and life outcomes however, which is why I would assume that a study looking at the effect of friendships on achievement would control for class.

This alone should put Katie on guard against applying the findings rigidly to her own children's lives: as they very much do benefit form class privilege. This is a very important factor in predicting their course in life. Much more so than any effect of their choice of friendships I would expect.

She makes a couple of references to children's attainment coming from the attitudes and commitment of the parents, which is closer to the mark (and contradicts her own argument!). She wants to be cautious about assuming her own home is some kind of intellectual hothouse however, when its clear from her own writing that she is unable to formulate a logically consistent argument.

I have to agree with the person up thread who predicted lifelong problems forming friendships for her children.

kimorama Sat 02-Mar-13 11:35:18

In truth CLASSES in broad terms do not intermingle. Social climbing is getting on in a country like ours. Mine is a large family 2 went posh, and it did change peoples attitude to them

VincenzaOfSaragossa Fri 22-Feb-13 21:50:06

Because she's not classy enough. We wouldn't have her in our playground. grin

NigellasGuest Fri 22-Feb-13 20:48:13

have I missed something?
WHY does she not send her kids to private school?

edam Fri 22-Feb-13 20:32:05

Oh dear, what a sad woman. Avaricious petit-bourgeois on the make - definite lack of manners and grace. And if she thinks private schools are immune from drug taking and teenage pregnancy she's got another think coming...

OhToBeCleo Fri 22-Feb-13 20:26:54

So I see that the DM is living down to its reputation.....

What fascinates me is which 'real world' she thinks that her kids are going to inhabit once they leave her over protective snobbish clutches. She's doing them no favours at all - poor kids!

CheerfulYank Fri 22-Feb-13 18:43:43

First sentence should say "when I was little there were houses my mom didn't let me go to"

CheerfulYank Fri 22-Feb-13 18:42:50

When I was little there were houses she didn't let me go to (and right she was, one of them was an actual crack house) but she always made the children welcome at ours.

This woman is a snobby cow. I see a bit of this sometimes as we don't have a lot of money and live in a house "in town" rather than the new fancy developments or big homes on the lake. But my son is amazing, so the other kids should be so lucky. grin

His name is Samuel...where does that fall on the classy scale?? wink

I fantasise about having children of whom she approves, asking hers over for a play date and making sure Charmaine, Tyrone and whoever else she might disapprove of are also invited grin

MrsBombastic Fri 22-Feb-13 15:55:29

What this idiotic woman fails to undestand is that the parents at this school probably do the same thing to her just the other way around..

The parents see her coming, grab their kids and go sharply into reverse!

cory Fri 22-Feb-13 15:49:00

What class has Katie Hopkins actually climbed into? What are her wonderful academic and business achievements?

LineRunner Fri 22-Feb-13 15:06:12

I called my son Inspector Abberline of the Yard.

jaynebxl Fri 22-Feb-13 14:59:11

And who didn't use naice traditional Victorian names for their children!

jaynebxl Fri 22-Feb-13 14:58:48

Did anyone else read the article and immediately fantasise about her inviting your children to play, only to HAVE to tell her that you couldn't possibly let your children play with a family who were beneath them?

kimorama Fri 22-Feb-13 11:56:25

We are a class society and climbing into one class often means leaving others behind. But it is not often admitted

chickensarmpit Fri 22-Feb-13 11:06:15

She needs to wash her carpets too.

BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 11:02:35

They use those photos every time she writes an article. Maybe they can't get a photographer willing to spend time with her.

BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 11:00:51

Urgh! 'My kind of people will be at work'. Yes right, Katie. That's why you're losing the poll. Cretin.

Commenting on the children's looks is not on.

They didn't get to choose what their mother is like.

chickensarmpit Fri 22-Feb-13 10:54:08

She cannot comment on anyone with kids looking like that.

BinarySolo Fri 22-Feb-13 10:50:39

She's about to appear on This Morning

Darkesteyes Thu 21-Feb-13 21:58:57

Ah yes. Sibary.
The woman who thinks that the people who slut shamed her daughter did her (Shona herself) a favour.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2259878/My-14-year-old-shouldnt-dress-like-But-doesnt-online-bullies-right-torment-SHONA-SIBARY-alarming-new-trend-slut-shaming.html

IrnBruTheNoo Thu 21-Feb-13 14:17:18

It's this kind of attitude that means her children will want to socialise with children who are a bad influence later on because they've not been exposed to all walks of life from early on...very narrow minded. Friendships cannot be forced.

DizzyHoneyBee Thu 21-Feb-13 14:00:02

simplesusan, I think there is one big problem with publishing something of worth she has done.....I'll leave you all to work out what the problem is grin

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