Cowardly Taliban shoot girl activist

(64 Posts)
CogitoErgoSometimes Wed 10-Oct-12 07:43:10

Malala Yousufzai

A 14 year-old activist is shot by the cowardly men of the Taliban simply for campaigning for herself and other girls to be educated. Another PR coup for radical islam.

mathanxiety Tue 16-Oct-12 16:59:27

Pakistan needs to fish or cut bait. This shooting will be repeated. The extremists are nothing if not bold.

grimbletart Tue 16-Oct-12 12:44:05

More info as to why Malala was sent to Birmingham

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49420507/#.UH1H-4V4PmY

LtEveDallas Tue 16-Oct-12 06:17:29

Rip, you are correct. The QE is linked to Selly Oak where injured soldiers go.

ripsishere Tue 16-Oct-12 04:09:19

When I read about it on the BBC, Birmingham has a new trauma unit. I wonder if there were either insufficient beds in Belgast or if Birmingham is part of the place they take injured service personnel to?

mathanxiety Tue 16-Oct-12 03:57:36

I am surprised she's not in Belfast. They have lots of experience dealing with massive head injuries there.

ripsishere Tue 16-Oct-12 03:53:59

So happy she has arrived in a first world country to continue her treatment.
I often tell DD when she is moaning, that she has no idea of how lucky she is to hold a British passport and have the opportunity of education.
Get well soon

ljny Mon 15-Oct-12 20:29:48

Such a courageous girl, such a rotten cowardly attack, like everyone I'm hoping so hard they can treat her successfully - she faces a long hard road, such a wonderful girl, with most of her life ahead of her. It's nothing to do with Islam. The Taliban are barbarians.

EdithWeston Mon 15-Oct-12 19:59:46
Toombs Mon 15-Oct-12 17:33:58

How fearful these men in beards must be, how weak must be their god that it can be threatened by a 14 year old girls words. How strong and powerful does it make someone to try and murder a child?

Frontpaw Mon 15-Oct-12 16:55:40

I was watching the Andrew Marr history progamme last night thinking 'what the hell happened?'.

Frontpaw Mon 15-Oct-12 16:53:19

Sadly where culture is shitty like this and they back it up with 'God tells me to do it' there will never be progress. You can't argue or educate these people.

CogitoErgoSometimes Mon 15-Oct-12 16:51:31

"How do they treat their own mothers, sisters, wifes/wives and daughters? "

Badly.... They think nothing of beating, mutilating or killing women if they step out of line or have the misfortune to get raped. Has nothing to do with their religion and everything to do with being able to maintain a hold on power through brute force. Given recent events in Britain such as the terrible Shafilea Ahmed case, we are not immune from people holding the same barbaric views.

Frontpaw Mon 15-Oct-12 09:30:29

I often wonder about such 'men'. How do they treat their own mothers, sisters, wifes/wives and daughters? How would they feel, for example, if their sone were killed by well-meaning but uneducated and illiterate mothers, who maybe give wrong medecine when they are ill? Why are they so scared of women? The Koran implores men to cherish and protect its womenfolk (remembering it was written during times of lawlessness and tribal fightine). I suppose it also says, like the bible, let those who harm a child be thrown into the sea with a rock ariund their neck (not sure of the right words, but the sentiment is there).

Startailoforangeandgold Mon 15-Oct-12 09:28:12

Sorry for the typos, I got interrupted and posted without proofing.

Startailoforangeandgold Mon 15-Oct-12 08:10:12

safronwblue Well said!

It angry be beyond measure that so many normally ardent feminists letangry their hatred of America and their PC views get in the way of campaigning in support of Women oppressed in the name of Religion.

CheerfulYank Mon 15-Oct-12 07:50:34

What a beautifully brave girl. I am in awe of her and in a rage on her behalf.

The Muslims I know are horrified and angry, too.

saffronwblue Mon 15-Oct-12 07:41:41

I am so glad she is getting top-notch care.
I have resisted some of the demonising of the Taliban from the likes of W but this has made me realise as a feminist how outrageous they are.

Thank you for this thread. I want tk learn more aboit this and the issues. I had a dream about this last night, and it was terrifying. She actually lived through it.

coffeeinbed Mon 15-Oct-12 07:23:18

Hope she gets the best treatment here.
Such a brave girl.
I could not have done this.

Startailoforangeandgold Mon 15-Oct-12 07:16:57

Malala I wish you the very best treatment and hope that you get better.

As to the Evil men who did this to you are found and punished.

As I write this my own 11 DD has just bounced in wearing her school uniform.

Why the fuck isn't the Western world up in arms that their are places where this isn't every girls right.

Surely the rights of 50% of the population to basic human rights, should suppressed any other consideration.

* And Why, why are there so few posts in support of this amazing girl.*

LtEveDallas Mon 15-Oct-12 07:03:24

Christ no, can you imagine? Beggars belief. I suppose it depends on the treatment, yes. I would have thought gunshot wounds are now a speciality at SO. Horrible to think that we need that sort of speciality in UK.

EdithWeston Mon 15-Oct-12 07:00:18

They've said NHS, so could be; but it'll depend on what care her injury needs.

I've been looking at the Taliban's kill/injury rates in Pakistan: over 1600 dead in attacks on religious sites they disagree with (including some Muslim sects) and nearly 3000 injured over last 10 years. Plus all those they attack for other reasons, like Malala, plus all those in Afghanistan.

NHS wouldn't cope, would it?

LtEveDallas Mon 15-Oct-12 06:50:13

Oh that is great news - I wonder if she will go to SO - they have the most experience I would have thought.

EdithWeston Mon 15-Oct-12 06:46:53

She is coming to UK for medical treatment. It says she will require prolonged care, and the coming days are critical.

mathanxiety Mon 15-Oct-12 05:35:05

You can't say 'this isn't religion', because Islam isn't a centralised religion with one voice speaking for all as with RCatholicism or the CoE. Sadly, if the Taliban says it is their brand of Islamic religion to crush women and girls, to treat them as if they were worth nothing even down to attempted murder and keeping them from proper medical attention, then actually it is. yes, they are basically terrorists, but they come armed with religion among their arsenal, and they are fueled by hatred that arises from their religious convictions.

Pakistan is looking more and more like a failed state. This is a very depressing piece (from before the slaying of bin Laden). It is not all the fault of GW Bush though. The Taliban are determined and 9/11 was part of their plans to take on American after all. Pakistan had gone over to the dark side a long time before 9/11, playing both the US and the Taliban.

The religious radicalism comes from Saudi Arabia:
'the madrasa- inspired and Saudi-financed advance of Wahhabi Islam, which is directly linked to the spread of anti-Western radicalization. On my last visit to Pakistan, it was very clear that while the Wahhabi-dominated North-West was on the verge of falling under the sway of the Taliban, the same was not true of the Sufi-dominated province of Sindh, which currently is quieter and safer than it has been for some time. Here in southern Pakistan, on the Indian border, Sufi Islam continues to act as a powerful defense against the puritanical fundamentalist Islam of the Wahhabi mullahs, which supports intolerance of all other faiths.'
This is the same radicalism that seeks to establish sharia law in the west so that Muslim women's lives can be dominated by 'Islam' and they cannot rely on the protection of western civil law.

I agree with Saffronwblue that Pakistan is a lawless place, with the Taliban running the show in the tribal areas in the north west and even in cities where the government is nominally in control you still get the hordes of men with seemingly nothing else to do but throw rocks at govt forces to protest the film that was released on the internet, for days.

Here is one of the problems.

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