cinnamonswirls
Sat 11-Feb-12 19:45:27
I love this woman Every Sperm is Sacred She's trying to take the toys from the Republican boys!
(Apologies if already thread on this)
cinnamonswirls
Sat 11-Feb-12 20:06:57
Its a bit American but its to do with the "personhood" bill in Oklahoma which criminalises a range of different things that women do to prevent childbirth but a range of others as well that they might choose to do to help them give birth - even I think to accidental things like miscarriage
What Constance Johnson has done is proposed an amendment to this bill which says than if any sperm is spilled outside a womans vagina then technically that is infringing the rights of the potential unborn child
eg wanking is murder - one in the eye for the male anti-abortion lobby basically
And thought - that is really funny I'll share it on mumsnet - but maybe it isn't 
It think it's hilarious, OP, but the dimwits on the Republican extreme right will probably not get it.
With everyday that passes, I am glad that I do not live in the US. So is DH, and he's American...
ShagOBite
Sat 11-Feb-12 21:48:44
Can anyone explain the full 'personhood bill' to me? I'm having trouble finding the facts.
JustHecate
Sat 11-Feb-12 22:13:54
the personhood bill is prolife movement. life begins at conception and therefore from the moment of conception the embryo is a person, with full rights and it seeks to make abortion illegal. It also means, according to some opponants, that a woman who has a miscarriage could theoretically be tried for murder, if it is decided the woman is 'responsible' for it
quite how that will be decided I don't know. carried on working? lifted something?
It would affect birth control - anything that affected implantation.
It would affect IVF
It is basically a very scary way to control women.
I think this woman's response to it is brilliant - every drop of sperm that isn't used in the attempt to reproduce is murder, because that's a potential human being.
Of course, sperm is only half a human being, so it's not the same as an embryo. I don't know what the stance of these personhood people is on the unfertilised egg. If they seek to control that too - then that makes this point even better!
All this 'personhood' nonsense will go my list of things to quote when people say, 'why did you move here, I'd love to live in America!'
Well done, Constance Johnson!
openerofjars
Sat 11-Feb-12 22:19:09
Oh my word: all those periods I had, letting each poor half-a-person egg go to waste!
JustHecate
Sat 11-Feb-12 22:22:37
You know though. These prolife activists make me laugh.*
All life is sacred, so in order to protest, we are going to...
... kill you. Blow you up. Make you dead.
Because life is sacred.
[boggle]
*their actions don't make me laugh. It is their hypocrisy that is laughable.
Pendeen
Sat 11-Feb-12 23:00:56
An American with a sense of humour?
More likely, someone has probably told her about Monty Python
suburbophobe
Sat 11-Feb-12 23:04:17
Those kind of people are REALLY scary!!
Makes me wonder about what frustration's going on in their own life 
Now let's hope these weirdos don't win the election!!
suburbophobe
Sat 11-Feb-12 23:06:17
I always wonder why they don't bother about people in the world already and living in poverty, abuse, etc.
Christians, my A***!
AnyFucker
Sun 12-Feb-12 14:42:36
I am an accessory to mass murder ! 
JustHecate
Sun 12-Feb-12 15:08:54
<insert tone lowering comment about cannibalism>
Would it be worse to spit or swallow, I wonder...
GoingForGoalWeight
Sun 12-Feb-12 18:27:45
Openerofjars i burst out laughing at your post!
Virtually every single person ever lived is a mass murderer in that case 
What next? 
cinnamonswirls
Sun 12-Feb-12 18:28:51
Wonders what bumsex would count as.....
But birth control like the cap or coil would illegal and I think that in vitro fertilisation wouldn't be able to work any more as defective embryos would have to be emplanted whether they were viable or not and having an accident that resulted in miscarriage would be reclassified as murder. I reckon eggs can't be frozen or donated but now can't find my source on that one.
Crazy stuff though as for the spit or swallow maybe for Oklahoma prolifers you have to blow back....
jodevizes
Sun 12-Feb-12 19:10:07
I wonder if they will play Monty Pythons' 'Every Sperm Is Sacred' before the vote?
How long before Mikes Masterbation Bar opens up just over the State line? 