** Please sign in and register your support for the teachers strike**

(506 Posts)
Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 13:21:28

I know there are threads flying about all over the place re; the strike, but this is purely to register support - it would be great if we could keep it going until midnight on Thursday ( 30th June )

you don't have to say anything - just smile, like this smile

freybean Tue 28-Jun-11 13:55:51


HarrietJones Tue 28-Jun-11 13:57:20


travellingwilbury Tue 28-Jun-11 14:07:33

They have my support grin


TheSecondComing Tue 28-Jun-11 14:10:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 14:21:11

Thanks guys - I'll keep bumping this 'til Thursday night -

(( I'll bring a few bottles of wine - just to keep me going ))

RealityIsRoughlyTheSizeOfABoat Tue 28-Jun-11 14:22:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SybilBeddows Tue 28-Jun-11 14:23:18

good luck teachers.
I think the thread would look a bit scary if we all just smiled.

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 14:27:12

Lololololol -

Chaotica Tue 28-Jun-11 14:27:46

They have my support smile

I saw in the paper yesterday quoting that netmums person saying there's 'no support for militancy from parents'. Bullshit. I'm right behind the teachers (and any others striking on Thursday).

CQrrrnee Tue 28-Jun-11 14:28:50

we need a picket emoticon

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 14:32:42

That's why I don't post on NetMums -


CQrrrnee Tue 28-Jun-11 14:33:39

That's not why I don't post on netmums wink although it adds fuel to the fire

feckwit Tue 28-Jun-11 14:35:07

I support themsmile (although think the strike would be more effective if all the unions were striking on Thursday).

saladfingers Tue 28-Jun-11 14:43:11


saladfingers Tue 28-Jun-11 14:43:39

and smile

travellingwilbury Tue 28-Jun-11 14:43:55

And just thought I should add , I am losing a days pay on Thursday which I can ill afford but I still think they are doing the right thing .

Malkuth Tue 28-Jun-11 14:47:22


moonmother Tue 28-Jun-11 14:52:41

As a mid day supervisor I get to see a small amount of what the teachers do, and I support them 100%.

nickelbabe Tue 28-Jun-11 14:53:44


i support them too.

aliceliddell Tue 28-Jun-11 15:01:09

Try www.j30strike.org
I can't get the link to work

aliceliddell Tue 28-Jun-11 15:02:37

looks like I could blush
<note to self - do not become IT teacher>

aliceliddell Tue 28-Jun-11 15:03:40

Oh, yeah,and smile

bullet234 Tue 28-Jun-11 15:03:41

They have my support and I wrote in Ds2's home school book to tell them that (he is off school on Thursday because of the strikes).

Jux Tue 28-Jun-11 15:32:47

They've got to do it.

tinkgirl Tue 28-Jun-11 19:22:19

smile full support given to all teachers, I just wish that all of the teaching unions were out. Cameron / Gove need to get the message loud and clear. It's about time that they start to listen.

jetmonkey Tue 28-Jun-11 19:24:59


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 19:25:11

Yep - and they need to know that parents are supporting the teachers -

I dont want to hijack the thread but can someone point me in the direction of a thread explaining the reasons for the strike.

iMemoo Tue 28-Jun-11 19:28:18

They have my support all the way

BoiledEggandToastSoldiers Tue 28-Jun-11 19:30:59


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 19:34:43

Verity - it's over pensions - I will try and dig out a thread for you -



metimenow Tue 28-Jun-11 19:39:17

I am in.

2old2beamum Tue 28-Jun-11 19:43:00


crazynanna Tue 28-Jun-11 19:45:00

Full support here.
Good job my dd's school is closed,because she wouldn't be crossing the picket line either.
The geography project gathering dust on her window ledge can get an airing...after we have marched,of course.

johnnyd1 Tue 28-Jun-11 19:49:18


usualsuspect Tue 28-Jun-11 19:50:05


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 19:51:14

- my dc wouldn't be crossing a picket line either -

tethersend Tue 28-Jun-11 19:52:32

smile from me.

And as a teacher about to strike, thank you for this thread. I needed to see this today!

CJMommy Tue 28-Jun-11 19:53:23


cakeandcustard Tue 28-Jun-11 19:55:30

smile smile

sis Tue 28-Jun-11 19:56:17


That netmums comment really annoys me - one day strike after the exams is hardly militant!

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 19:57:10

My pleasure Tethersend - I'll be here 'til Thursday night - hopefully I'll get the thread to 1000 posts and send a message to DC that parents are behind you.


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lovelybertha Tue 28-Jun-11 20:01:55


StainlessSteelCat Tue 28-Jun-11 20:02:41


maclover135 Tue 28-Jun-11 20:06:22


ilovesooty Tue 28-Jun-11 20:33:46


culturemulcher Tue 28-Jun-11 20:35:35


TarquinGyrfalcon Tue 28-Jun-11 20:36:16

Thank you all - a lovely thread.

I am striking as I am in the NUT but I felt awful about it - Gove's insulting comments at the weekend made me decide I was doing the right thing.

Trawling through all the teacher-bashing threads tonight made me feel thoroughly depressed, but this one has lifted my spirits.



chicaguapa Tue 28-Jun-11 20:39:46

Dh is a teacher and I'm not allowed to mention the Gove's name in our house! He's not striking as he's not in the NUT but supports those that are.

milki Tue 28-Jun-11 20:39:55


Shoesytwoesy Tue 28-Jun-11 20:41:52


jugglingmug Tue 28-Jun-11 20:42:06

smile my youngest 2 haven't started school yet...when they do I want them to be taught by motivated, enthusiastic teachers (as my oldest has been so lucky to have been so far). If teachers are continually kicked in the balls how can they continue to do such a fantabulous job.

As DS said 'that's like saying I can have a stop up and then not letting me cos you're too tired, it's naughty to promise people things and then not give them isn't it?' grin

OddBoots Tue 28-Jun-11 20:46:18


Donki Tue 28-Jun-11 20:46:36


lostinwales Tue 28-Jun-11 20:46:43

smile and wine


JeremyVile Tue 28-Jun-11 20:58:48


(looks a bit sinister that, but in a supportive sort of way)

cityhobgoblin Tue 28-Jun-11 21:03:45

Support here - what sort of example would they be setting their pupils by not defending themselves and fellow workers ?

MarianH Tue 28-Jun-11 21:04:28


mosschops30 Tue 28-Jun-11 21:04:48

smile from one shafted public sector worker to another i salute you!

Cromwell44 Tue 28-Jun-11 21:05:56


Stase Tue 28-Jun-11 21:06:34


SloganLogan Tue 28-Jun-11 21:06:43



NorthernerAtHeart Tue 28-Jun-11 21:07:10

Teacher here (NASUWT, so not striking....yet). Sick of the other threads. If all the moaners out there were part of a union, and were having their pensions cut, would they just accept it with no argument? I very much doubt it!
And what will a huge number of teachers be doing on their unpaid-strike day? Most likely sorting out stuff for school the following day! We are such an uncommitted lot!

stretch Tue 28-Jun-11 21:07:29

They have my support too.

toolatetobackoutnow Tue 28-Jun-11 21:08:30


nenevomito Tue 28-Jun-11 21:09:20

They have my support

pooka Tue 28-Jun-11 21:11:29

Not a teacher. But my mother and grandfather were.

I support the strike. smile

northender Tue 28-Jun-11 21:12:43


edam Tue 28-Jun-11 21:13:35

I support the strike. So does ds - he's really fed up that the other class in his year get to have the day off but his teacher isn't striking. grin

Not a teacher, just a lucky parent whose children have amazing teachers. Very proud to add my smile

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 21:15:30

Exactly NorthenerAtHeart;

We have to support the unions of this country - if we don't we're all fucked.
And as for the moaners - give up your holiday pay, your sick pay, and every other benefit unions fought for.

yeah right - sure you will.

jenny60 Tue 28-Jun-11 21:15:42


turdassmuthafukka Tue 28-Jun-11 21:16:40

Total support for the teachers here smile

neepsntatties Tue 28-Jun-11 21:16:44

You have my support!

ByTheSea Tue 28-Jun-11 21:17:55


feckymcfeckedoff Tue 28-Jun-11 21:18:50

Got my full support, about time people started standing up and being counted

Grockle Tue 28-Jun-11 21:19:43


But I am biased as I am a striking teacher. Initially, I felt guilty but Michael Gove's ridiculous and insulting comments have made me feel quite strongly about this

HHLimbo Tue 28-Jun-11 21:20:12

Teachers have been forced to defend themselves from government incompetence and idiocy. As have so many other workers across the country!

I support services for the public good.


Grockle Tue 28-Jun-11 21:20:15

I meant to say THANK YOU all for being supportive of this. None of us WANT to strike.

thesearemytwistedwords Tue 28-Jun-11 21:20:56



eatyourveg Tue 28-Jun-11 21:22:44


BoffinMum Tue 28-Jun-11 21:22:53


Average pensions are really very low for lots of women, around the minimum wage, so it's worth striking about.

Great blog post about it here

oldsilver Tue 28-Jun-11 21:24:16


chocolateshoes Tue 28-Jun-11 21:24:16


lionheart Tue 28-Jun-11 21:24:36

Oh yes! smile

Fennel Tue 28-Jun-11 21:27:16

Go for it teachers smile

magentadreamer Tue 28-Jun-11 21:29:23

Full support from me. DD's school is closed but even if it wasn't I wouldn't have allowed her to cross a picket line. Thanks for the link to www.j30strike.org/

PearlInterrupted Tue 28-Jun-11 21:29:52


MsInterpret Tue 28-Jun-11 21:30:32

Thank you all very much for your support smile

AliceWhirled Tue 28-Jun-11 21:31:22

This seriously brought a tear to my eye.


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 21:33:43


Like DC said Alice - we're all in this together - too fucking right we are -
We support you!

No issue what so ever if dds were striking.

I do however keep singing the billy elliot miners strike song everytime I see your name solidarity!

TCOB Tue 28-Jun-11 21:41:11


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 21:46:16

Ha ha - I actually named myself after the Polish trade union.

exotic me.

AliceWhirled Tue 28-Jun-11 21:47:04

Can't we name change to support the strike?

bigTillyMint Tue 28-Jun-11 21:47:28

smile DS will be off, but so will I as I will be striking too smile


AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike Tue 28-Jun-11 21:53:13

Like this grin


ThisIsANiceCage Tue 28-Jun-11 21:54:04


Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 21:55:37

Brilliant Alice!

IwishIwasmoreorganised Tue 28-Jun-11 22:01:34


campergirls Tue 28-Jun-11 22:09:32


bea Tue 28-Jun-11 22:14:00


lionheart Tue 28-Jun-11 22:19:49

I'm going to take DS along to a local rally so he can see for himself what unions and protests look like--might as well learn something!

kalo12 Tue 28-Jun-11 22:21:14

I'm in smile

Solidarity Tue 28-Jun-11 22:39:43

thanks everyone - I'm off to bed now, will bump this again tomorrow.

woollyideas Tue 28-Jun-11 22:46:14


Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 07:23:43

brew - my first of the day.

happycamper23 Wed 29-Jun-11 07:25:58


Iggly Wed 29-Jun-11 07:33:56


Full support here.

I resent the fact that Cameron et al talk about taxpayers vs public sector as if public sector workers don't pay tax hmm

JoyceBarnaby Wed 29-Jun-11 07:34:00

For the first time in years, I wish I was teachinging again, just so that I could strike!! I definitely support this.

Mr Gove, for example, is a twat.

2cats2many Wed 29-Jun-11 07:38:25

They have my support. Gove should be put in stocks so parents and teachers can take turns at throwing rotten tomatoes at him. He's a complete idiot.

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission Wed 29-Jun-11 07:42:12

full support from me too smile


handsomeharry Wed 29-Jun-11 07:43:47

You have my full support. smile

OhBuggerandArse Wed 29-Jun-11 07:46:09

All support here. Good luck to everyone striking tomorrow. smile

MarioandLuigi Wed 29-Jun-11 07:46:50

Full support here too smile

Strivingtosmile Wed 29-Jun-11 07:56:19


yousankmybattleship Wed 29-Jun-11 08:04:59


ComeWhineWithMe Wed 29-Jun-11 08:05:54

smile Full support here smile.

Pernickety Wed 29-Jun-11 08:06:56


OracleInaCoracle Wed 29-Jun-11 08:08:17

smile support here too!

TheMitfordsMaid Wed 29-Jun-11 08:09:05


katz Wed 29-Jun-11 08:09:53

full support here too smile
DHis a teacher, he union aren't on strike but DD1 is marching for him with a friend who's a teacher who is.

JiltedJohnsJulie Wed 29-Jun-11 08:21:02

Full support here too.

absolutely support the teachers. smile

LynnCSchreiber Wed 29-Jun-11 09:26:09


lillypie Wed 29-Jun-11 09:27:44


choccyp1g Wed 29-Jun-11 09:30:09

Support from me. I support anyone trying to protect their job terms and conditions.

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 09:33:00

This is great smile

AbsDuCroissant Wed 29-Jun-11 09:33:14

Support from me. Poor buggers - I couldn't do their job

wigglesrock Wed 29-Jun-11 09:34:18

grin If we don't support our teachers, who would we support?

ViolaTricolor Wed 29-Jun-11 09:38:56



aseriouslyblondemoment Wed 29-Jun-11 09:49:25


mustdash Wed 29-Jun-11 09:52:05


EvenLessNarkyPuffin Wed 29-Jun-11 09:54:30


crazynanna Wed 29-Jun-11 11:41:22

We have a new word/verb for the expression 'to have a wank'
It is now known as 'to have a Michael Gove' smile

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 11:59:00

The thought of him would put you off wanking surely?

NotADudeExactly Wed 29-Jun-11 12:00:51

My mother's a teacher (now a HT). They deserve every penny they get.

More power to them!

DamnYouAutocorrect Wed 29-Jun-11 12:04:53

My son's maths teacher is the only teacher striking in his year, poor (brave) sod. I'd rather DS missed a day's school for this than for the Day of Pippa Middleton's Arse.

FranSanDisco Wed 29-Jun-11 12:07:07

Totally support the strike smile.

SeaShellsAndTheInlawInvasion Wed 29-Jun-11 12:27:48


Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 12:59:36

DYA; yes, it's not all teaching unions who are out. The teachers I know are in NASUWT so aren't striking ( yet ) -
If this dispute continues they will do though.



HedleyLamarr Wed 29-Jun-11 14:28:27

smile Good luck to all those striking. It's a shame that it has come so far, but I think byGove deserves everything he gets.

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 14:31:46

He Won't defeat the teachers -

but the bastard will try -

IndigoBell Wed 29-Jun-11 14:33:10


Jaquelinehyde Wed 29-Jun-11 14:35:55

smile 100% support from our household

cat64 Wed 29-Jun-11 14:55:26

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Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 16:21:07

Let's hope so Cat64 -

spiggy Wed 29-Jun-11 16:40:12


boysrock Wed 29-Jun-11 16:42:42


huffythethreadslayer Wed 29-Jun-11 16:44:05


OhBuggerandArse Wed 29-Jun-11 16:50:44

Gove's own council opposes using parents to break the strike.


OhBuggerandArse Wed 29-Jun-11 16:50:45

Gove's own council opposes using parents to break the strike.


OhBuggerandArse Wed 29-Jun-11 16:51:04
OhBuggerandArse Wed 29-Jun-11 16:52:04
BoattostrikesupportingBolivia Wed 29-Jun-11 16:58:14

smile non- striking teacher here but only because I'm on maternity leave and in the NASUWT, but thanks for a friendly teacher thread for a change.

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 17:34:57

I'll never understand the teacher bashing you get on here ( lazy/greedy etc )
It's a highly skilled, stressful, demanding job - and not brilliantly paid.
I can't understand why any parent wouldn't support them every step of the way - teachers are an extremely important part of our childrens lives, and I know from experience how inspirational they can be.

And it's a profession that employs 1000's of women.

We must support them.

BitOfFun Wed 29-Jun-11 17:38:59


katz Wed 29-Jun-11 17:39:44

well said solidarity!

breadandbutterfly Wed 29-Jun-11 17:45:34


madrose Wed 29-Jun-11 17:49:41


Peachy Wed 29-Jun-11 17:52:52

I support them, in particular my son's amazing SN teacher who is striking not becuase of pensions but becuase she can't see how she will keep her charges safe at 66 and does not want to have them placed at risk through her need for a wage.

i am supportive. dp is a teacher but his union isn't striking but he is supportive of his colleagues who are

teaching has been so devalued

huffythethreadslayer Wed 29-Jun-11 18:08:42

I'm supportive. I'm a TA and not unionised, but would be going in anyway as the teacher I work with isn't striking and I support a SN boy who would probably struggle if I wasn't there.

I love the way people go on about how much they earn, gold plated pensions, all those lovely holidays, but none of them offer to actually do the job! If it was that good, they'd be making plans for a career change. I think, in reality, most people realise it's a bloody thankless job these days. I think teachers deserve a blardy medal, let alone a decent pension (which they've been contractually promised by the way, so it's hardly like they're grabbing for stuff they're not entitled to.).


thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 18:14:00

No way am I supporting this. MY DH will soon be having a 25% pay cut and will have to take it on the chin.


usualsuspect Wed 29-Jun-11 18:15:07

why post on this thread thebestisyettocome?

Dred Wed 29-Jun-11 18:18:57


Dred Wed 29-Jun-11 18:19:02


thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 18:19:16

I don't know usual suspect. Perhaps because it's a free country.

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 18:38:37

Then your dh should join a union shouldn't he.......... if he can.

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 18:43:29

He is a member of union type organisation.

My worry is that the Government will not give in and this will be the first of many strikes. Having grown up in a mining town and seen the damage done by a Union and Government who won't give an inch AND been the victim of endless weeks, months of teachers striking in the eighties, I do not believe this action is sensible.

Sorry. I wish you well in your campaign but I strongly disagree with your tactics.

SpringHeeledJack Wed 29-Jun-11 18:46:14


Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 18:54:15

Ok - I could talk all night about unions and politics ( yes I really am that boring ) but this is a thread simply to register support, and not just for teachers but all workers taking industrial action tomorrow.

If we all had a 'what's the point' attitude we'd achieve nothing.

( I'm not a teacher btw )

carben Wed 29-Jun-11 19:07:11

Total support from me too.

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 19:09:00

I'm not saying 'what's the point' though...

Peachy Wed 29-Jun-11 19:28:12

I am also in a similar area The Best (SE Wales) and had the 1980's strikes but I think it is really essential to use your voice where you can.

Heck, as a nursing student in the 1990's we actually ahd lectures about our right to decent employment standards (into which i would include a right to protest about changes to contracts) and not letting the concept of a vocation get in the way.

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 20:16:07

I am very much in favour of using your voice to make a good point. And for the record, I support the substantive point.

I don't support the strike however as I think it (a) gives the Government the moral highground (b) unduly affects children and their parents (c) should only be used as the very, very last resort as there is nowhere left to go after resorting to it.

I wonder whether people who support the teachers now will still support them in six months time after much more striking. As I said earlier, as with the miners, the Tories will not back down. The Unions have led their members into a cul-de-sac from whence there is no return imho. I hope I am wrong.

said Wed 29-Jun-11 20:21:40


Youngest's school isn't closed but I'm on strike myself. Day off grin <possibly wrong attitude>

jonasmcflonas Wed 29-Jun-11 20:37:37

So thebestisyettocome has done exactly what was not wanted and hijacked this thread when there are plenty of others she could have posted on to voice her disagreement. Boo to her! But yay to the striking teachers! smile

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 20:41:14

I'm sorry jonas. I don't mean to hijack as I could've started my own thread. As I've said I'm supportive of the aims, just worry they've started something they can't finish.

Feel free to ignore all my posts and carry on but I still maintain my position

jonasmcflonas Wed 29-Jun-11 20:56:00

But how else do you register your strong disapproval at such a huge change to your pension? I do understand what you say about having witnessed the NUM vs Thatcher years and the ultimate futility of it, but can't think of what power the teachers have other than striking?

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 20:56:52

The miners strike was completely different for all sorts of reasons - if you want to start a separate thread I'll happily chat to you about it -

This thread is to support the teachers - not to talk about the miners/ Thatcher/Arthur Scargill.


AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike Wed 29-Jun-11 21:00:37

Please can we have the smiles again. There's so many other threads to hash out the politics.

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 21:01:15

Solidarity. You are are not the only person who knows about unions and politics so there is no reason at all for the patronising post.


AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike Wed 29-Jun-11 21:02:18


jonasmcflonas Wed 29-Jun-11 21:03:06


InNeedOfAGoodName Wed 29-Jun-11 21:08:38

Gove = twat
Full support here

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 21:11:30

Didn't mean to sound patronising - sorry.

(( I'd actually really like to talk about the miners strike - ha ha ))

thebestisyettocome Wed 29-Jun-11 21:14:49

That's OK Solidarity. I'm really on your side...

aliceliddell Wed 29-Jun-11 21:18:05

Solidarity - great name, btw- I'll have that boring, irrelevant purely theoretical discussion with you. Any chance of relating it to anti-cuts campaigns?
Oh yes, and smile

Solidarity Wed 29-Jun-11 21:18:18


smugmumofboys Wed 29-Jun-11 21:21:29

I'm striking tomorrow. I agonised over the decision, then felt guilty once I'd made it but all the teacher-bashing on here and in rl have actually hardened my stance.

Thank you for all your support. smile

edam Wed 29-Jun-11 21:28:16

darn, I got home from work late and so haven't had time to teach ds to sing all the words to The Red Flag. I thought it might be appropriate tomorrow!

grin edam

katz Wed 29-Jun-11 21:40:10

should i make dd1 a banner to take to the march tomorrow or a t-shirt found the fabric paints tonight!

Grockle Wed 29-Jun-11 21:49:42

Yes, Katz! I ummed and ahhed about going to a rally tomorrow but the nearest ones are an hour away and DS wants to go to the beach (5 mins away).

katz Wed 29-Jun-11 21:50:56

what should it say? is there a downloadable banner somewhere?

Grockle Wed 29-Jun-11 22:01:46

Oh, I'm rubbish at stuff like that. I don't know... hands off our pensions seems to be the common slogan.

Whatever you do, make sure it is spelled right. You don't want to be one of those teachers wink

janek Wed 29-Jun-11 22:37:49


edam Wed 29-Jun-11 22:56:19

Up the workers?


muminlondon Wed 29-Jun-11 23:52:31

smile Good luck tomorrow.

ravenAK Thu 30-Jun-11 00:05:01

I'm striking.

Thank you all so much for your support.


CateOfCateHall Thu 30-Jun-11 06:51:24

I fully support the strike.smile

bobbinogs Thu 30-Jun-11 07:03:33


JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene Thu 30-Jun-11 07:04:58

I support our hardworking teachers

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 07:15:48

Good luck teachers -

I'll keep this thread active all day for you.

Go For It!

noir Thu 30-Jun-11 07:21:30


Feenie Thu 30-Jun-11 07:25:44

Thank you, solidarity, really appreciate this thread and the support on it. smile

Laugs Thu 30-Jun-11 07:32:09

I support the teachers' strike.

changeforthebetter Thu 30-Jun-11 07:32:29


frantic51 Thu 30-Jun-11 07:44:53

Well, I'm worried that, one day, my 4 year old grandchild may find themselves in a reception class of 30 with a 66 year old teacher, which I think would be pants for them and for the teacher! So, go teachers, I'm right behind you :D

Grockle Thu 30-Jun-11 08:10:34

Thank you all smile

CharlotteBronteSaurus Thu 30-Jun-11 08:15:35

full support from me smile
<stokes brazier>

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 08:21:14

frantic51 - not just working longer but getting a reduced pension on top.

Not fair at all.

2cats2many Thu 30-Jun-11 08:25:35

Francis Maude Just got hammered by Evan Davis on the Today programme. He completely fell to pieces when he was scrutinised on the details of public sector pension reforms. The government have been lying about this for so long and the lies keep getting repeated until they become truth. He was completely exposed today. Good.

AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike Thu 30-Jun-11 09:03:06

I was grin listening to that!

telsa Thu 30-Jun-11 09:06:13

complete and utter support for ALL strikers today.

smugmumofboys Thu 30-Jun-11 09:08:25

I heard that. I loved Evan talking about his ctrl+f search for the words 'untenable', 'unsustainable' and 'unaffordable'. He couldn't find them because they aren't there. All he could find was that it isn't fair. And there we have the crux of the matter. Instead of lobbying for better private sector ts&cs people are looking to pull ours down to their levels.

boohoohoo Thu 30-Jun-11 09:17:51

My dh striking today, he is a uni lecturer, full support for all those striking.

PR43 Thu 30-Jun-11 09:22:42


Fully supportive here smile

Flisspaps Thu 30-Jun-11 09:26:58

In total support for those striking today

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 09:29:06

Great support - thank you smile

ShirleyKnot Thu 30-Jun-11 09:30:04

Signing in to show my support (I beeped a picket line outside the magistrates court this morning as well)

<hoots horn>

Hullygully Thu 30-Jun-11 09:32:52

Go teachers go!

Hullygully Thu 30-Jun-11 09:33:14

But not to work, of course

Xiaoxiong Thu 30-Jun-11 09:34:22

And me, my DH is a teacher. Though he and his colleagues cannot actually fail to show up today (boarding school) they have agreed in return for not striking that the Headmaster will write a letter to all parents explaining the reasons for the strike and why they should support the teachers, they're going to talk to the boys about the reasons behind the strike and explain why industrial action is so important, and they're all wearing yellow today in solidarity with other teachers and other strikers around the country.

strandedbear Thu 30-Jun-11 09:36:22

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Fontsnob Thu 30-Jun-11 09:37:02

Adding my voice of support.

mummytime Thu 30-Jun-11 09:38:01


FidgetPie Thu 30-Jun-11 09:42:14

Fantastic to see so much support for them - they have my total backing (as do everyone else out on strike today)

SE13Mummy Thu 30-Jun-11 09:42:45

Support from here too (teacher in non-striking union with DH, teacher in striking union).


Am a teacher currently on day-to-day supply so not paying in at the moment - no way I am working today though!

SpringHeeledJack Thu 30-Jun-11 09:49:01

I'm a bit surprised, given the amount of support I've seen/heard over last the few days, at Labour's stance on the matter

they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean you, Mr Miliband

I thought you were different


Hullygully Thu 30-Jun-11 09:49:39

They is scared, Spring, innit.

FionaJT Thu 30-Jun-11 09:50:01


SpringHeeledJack Thu 30-Jun-11 09:50:45

they is scared, Hulls.

they needs to grow a pair

sparks Thu 30-Jun-11 09:50:45

smile I support the teachers

Xenia Thu 30-Jun-11 09:52:21

NUT poster says

No cuts to pay or pensions

That feels to me as if it should say No custs to pay nor pensions

Am I right? It hits me as wrong but I am not a grammar expert. What do teachers think? I often add n to ors when I am correcting things.

Hullygully Thu 30-Jun-11 09:53:37

Someone should direct them here. I don't think they realise that there is a huge amount of popular support for the teachers and other public sector workers cos they believes the pop meedja. And they is wanky cowardy custards.

EightiesChick Thu 30-Jun-11 09:55:43

smile Full support for the teachers and all other strikers (of which I am one). I am going to the rally near me.

MyTiChaSte Thu 30-Jun-11 09:59:23

They have my support.

minibinibecky Thu 30-Jun-11 10:00:08

Finally - a non-teacher bashing thread at last smile Gets my support but my union aren't striking hmm

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 10:03:44

SHJ - there's no political party I can fully identify with anymore -
we need to pull together as people and send a clear message to all politicians - we're not going to be pawns in your political game -

stripesnotspots Thu 30-Jun-11 10:09:23


SpringHeeledJack Thu 30-Jun-11 10:12:13

YouGov man on Today Programme said public opinion is pretty much 50:50 at the moment

this indicates to me that the pro-teachers and public servants view should be reflected in Parliament. Labour should be looking at that rather than the front page of the Express.

wook Thu 30-Jun-11 10:12:44


CatPower Thu 30-Jun-11 10:13:34


smile smile smile

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 10:17:39

Exactly SHJ - Labour are too scared to show support for unions these days - they might lose a few middle England votes.


chosenone Thu 30-Jun-11 10:33:21

Teacher here (NAS so not striking yet) full support to all publiuc sector workers being shafted by the govt whilst fat cats and bankers still profit

Ginfox Thu 30-Jun-11 10:36:49


EightiesChick Thu 30-Jun-11 10:41:08

Hear hear, chosenone. Fred Goodwin still has his pension!

kirstos Thu 30-Jun-11 10:41:11


Absolute support to all striking today.
I wouldn't like to see teachers in their late sixties having to deal with difficult situations in schools.

I don't like this government's tactics. They did this with the benefits for people with disabilities, made a few mistruths get out there in the public domain and parrotted until it was perceived to be the truth so they could then just storm in there and do what the fuck they liked.

They're doing the same with public sector pensions. Disgusting individuals.

NinthWave Thu 30-Jun-11 10:42:49


MelinaM Thu 30-Jun-11 10:43:41

smile You all have my full support smile

I don't see MP's relinquishing any hold on there EXTREMELY GENEROUS pensions!!!!! ...greed, absolute greed!

Vive le revolution

1sttimemomma Thu 30-Jun-11 10:50:31

smile On behalf of many teachers who didn't really want to strike but felt they had to... thanks for all your support!

sogrownup Thu 30-Jun-11 10:54:50

smile Good luck to all the teachers striking and all the public sector who are currently being bashed!!
Try a work to rule if this doesn't work, then people may appreciate how much you go 'beyond the call' on a daily basis!!
I support you all 100%

nakedandangry Thu 30-Jun-11 10:55:02


saladfingers Thu 30-Jun-11 11:10:09


mummy2aisha Thu 30-Jun-11 11:20:18

My mum and sister are both teachers my mum a learning mentor now so not on strike today. They go out of their way to make sure their pupils are well taught. My sister buys books, prizes ,stickers etc out of her own money because she loves her job and cares for her kids she brings her work home and is brillant and commited to her job. I will be giving my support to her today.

Snapespeare Thu 30-Jun-11 11:23:35

good luck! our school is open today sad my boys have thrown a sickie.

..and thank you teachers, for helping my children to try and get a decent education and to inspire them to be the best that they can be.

jonesio Thu 30-Jun-11 11:25:04

I'm on ML, back to work in Sept, so am striking in sympathy.

:-) Please can someone up in that ivory tower start listening to us?

jeffner Thu 30-Jun-11 11:39:58

Complete support.....

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 11:40:36

Yes - I know teachers who spend their own money on resources. They do it because they are fully committed to providing the best education they can, and because they care.
And You'll never see politicians cutting their pensions or other benefits - because we're not really - 'all in it together' - it's more - 'do as I say not as I do'

turdassmuthafukka Thu 30-Jun-11 11:43:51

I worked in a tough inner city school in my last job and usually spent about £50 a month out of my pay on resources.

turdassmuthafukka Thu 30-Jun-11 11:46:37

Radio 4's Today programme have been saying that the Hutton report proves that the cost of teachers' pensions is actually DECREASING and that it is pure lies from the Tories to say otherwise. They are now backtracking and saying that public sector pensions should be lower for reasons of 'fairness'. Fairness? The MPs' pensions are bigger. Is that Fair? Cameron is a multi millionaire - is that FAIR? It is all bollocks and Tory shite.

itshappenedagain Thu 30-Jun-11 11:50:34

they have my support smile

Fuctifano Thu 30-Jun-11 11:51:35

smile from a Scottish colleague

carocaro Thu 30-Jun-11 11:59:36

Yes and No.

Yes - to stand up for what they want and beleive in.

No - to the fact those not in the public sector have had to make massive changes due to a drop in income and like me cannot afford even a £1 to put in a pension pot at present.

slug Thu 30-Jun-11 12:06:47

Govie seems to have forgotten that the majority of those evil teachers who are inconveniencing parents by their reckless striking are parents themselves

<<Tory twat emoticon>>

Doobydoo Thu 30-Jun-11 12:08:12


Irksome Thu 30-Jun-11 12:08:23

Got mine.

diamanteasbigastheritz Thu 30-Jun-11 12:18:39

Noting my support smile

bacon Thu 30-Jun-11 12:20:28

Not here, lucky to have a good job, be thankful you have a pension at all!

No one sticks up for the private sector and many of us have seen our pensions plumet. I havent a pension. Hubby and I will never retire - fact.

DS1 is in school today - I am working to contribute my taxes and keep my employees in employment.

Life is tough and life evolves, accept the things you cannot change and get on with it! Fair - nothing is fair, life isnt fair get over it.

If labour were still in government they would continue to spend spend spend on the public sector - pop pop pop - Greece! Its not all down to bankers - the damage was done ages ago. The sector needs millionaires and business, the more the better. Lets build the country back up.

Perhaps you all could boycott Tescos, Vodaphone etc seeing that they owe billions in tax. But no one will do that - perhaps you could contact them and ask them to contribute cos every penny counts!

Teachers are great, work hard and its a tough job. But not many of us are having an easy ride either.

Twoflowers Thu 30-Jun-11 12:27:24


sogrownup Thu 30-Jun-11 12:29:49

carocaro so sad that you are unable to put into a pension for your future, so you will understand why the public sector workers feel so furious about having it promised, then taken away?

They may have made no other privisions due to their pension being part of their professional package (too many P's there). It's not about who can and who cannot afford a pension. Fact is they would have had to make other choices had this pension not been in place, but to promise it and take it away is wrong, particularly for the longer in service!!

It's theft. Robert Maxwell did this years ago and it was classed as a criminal act!!

MarathonMama Thu 30-Jun-11 12:34:27


Totally with the teachers. It just shows how much respect this governmnt has for the teaching profession to cut their pensions without proper consultation and then, when they strike, think that they can replace them with unqualified parents. Shocking

designergirl Thu 30-Jun-11 12:37:14


Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 12:37:16

Bacon - yes - let's all be thankful we're not starving and living on the streets - indeed we should be grateful that politicians let us live at all.
<< slaps self with the big issue >>

nondomesticgoddess Thu 30-Jun-11 12:42:45


designergirl Thu 30-Jun-11 12:43:13

Yes, I know many teachers (myself included) who, with a good honours degree, could have chosen much better paid jobs but chose teaching because they wanted to make a difference. I know many teachers who pay from their own pocket for resources because they are committed. Yet you wouldn't see David Cameron taking money from his pocket to help ease the deficit, would you? They deserve the pension they were promised.

rachelgree Thu 30-Jun-11 12:43:19


designergirl Thu 30-Jun-11 12:48:19

I'd like to see David Cameron on his Zimmer frame dealig with unruly classes in his late sixties. Teaching isn't the sort of profession where you can hide behind your desk if you're feeling unwell. Teachers need to be alert, active and on the ball. You could work til later in other professions , but not teaching.
Also, a teacher working until later is depriving a younger, newly qualified teacher of a job. There are already enough of those looking for work.

sydneysuze Thu 30-Jun-11 12:56:14

Got my support - teaching needs to be valued.

RuralLass Thu 30-Jun-11 12:58:07

Right back atcha. Negociations, my bottie!! How can anyone negociate without the basic underlying info. And teachers have already agreed to make some pretty major concessions re. pension rights .... why is it 'reasonable' or 'fair' to expect them to make more? Put your money where your mouth is, Cam-Cams, and make equivalent changes to MPs' pensions FIRST!!

designergirl Thu 30-Jun-11 12:58:15

dealing blush

picc Thu 30-Jun-11 13:16:51


AitchTwoOh Thu 30-Jun-11 13:18:22

i just by and large support striking, regardless. no-one does it lightly.

stillenacht Thu 30-Jun-11 13:19:00

Full support from me smile I am a teacher but am not on strike (wrong union). However my son's special school teacher is on strike so I am at home with him - fortunately been given compassionate leave. I am a 'hard working parent' and a 'tax payer' - all the meeja keep going on about is how the strike will affect these people. To be one of them Dave et al, you don't have to work in the private sector. Very proud of my colleagues today.

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 13:22:34

You'll never see our 3 main parties elect a new leader who's over 60 - in fact I'd be surprised if they went over 50. They want a younger fresher feel to politics - they don't want someone who looks old and knackered. But it's fine for our kids.

<< remembers all the criticism of politician Sir Ming Campbell being 'too old' at 66 >>
Remember that Lib-dems?

Baby2b Thu 30-Jun-11 13:31:37


casperthefriendlyghost Thu 30-Jun-11 13:33:05


SisterSaviour Thu 30-Jun-11 13:48:05

Full support and solidarity from me! smile

elkiedee Thu 30-Jun-11 13:49:43

I read a few posts on a netmums thread and the vast majority were supporting the strike. I felt quite heartened.

CatIsSleepy Thu 30-Jun-11 13:50:50


i ended up walking through the demo on my way home earlier...there seemed to be quite a party atmosphere!

elkiedee Thu 30-Jun-11 13:50:55


gingercat12 Thu 30-Jun-11 13:51:07



grin Non striking teacher (NASUWT) in full support of colleagues out today.

EightiesChick Thu 30-Jun-11 14:10:22


Just back from the demo in a certain northern city. Public applauding us as we walked along. Nice to hear.

The really interesting news now is the BMA's vote of 87% in favour of industrial action by doctors if the same changes are made to their pensions. Now that will really look bad for the government. I would support such action just as I have today.

Solidarity with everyone striking today. When it gets to the point that the only thing you can do is withdraw your labour then things are really desperate

duffeldaisy Thu 30-Jun-11 14:13:42

They have my wholehearted support. smile

WhenCanISleep Thu 30-Jun-11 14:14:38

Non-striking teacher (different union): full support - plus I've got loads done in my empty classroom!!!

BreconBeBuggered Thu 30-Jun-11 14:19:17

Wholeheartedly support any striking teachers. I utterly loathe the divide-and-conquer approach of setting one section of the workforce against another. Nobody loses a day's pay wothout good cause.

NanaNina Thu 30-Jun-11 14:25:38

100% SUPPORT here too but also for all ps workers. My god if the BMA came out that would wipe the smirk from Cameron and Osborne's nasty faces. I typed faeces at first - (typo) but maybe a Freudian slip!

ArfurBrain Thu 30-Jun-11 14:27:19

Hell yes.

Eastsider Thu 30-Jun-11 14:28:49


NessaRose Thu 30-Jun-11 14:50:37

My full support, my DS's are home due to the strike and I am loving having an unexpected day with them. smile

wisecamel Thu 30-Jun-11 14:51:56

smile sick sick sick of the public-sector bashing (sad about that). The pensions ARE affordable, as proved by the Hutton Report, the Tories just don't want public sector workers to have them.

alana39 Thu 30-Jun-11 14:54:20

Right behind them smile

pinkteddy Thu 30-Jun-11 14:55:01

smile they have my support and I may be joining them if my union ballots and members agree (not a teacher but a public sector worker). I am disgusted with Ed Miliband's stance. He could have stayed sitting on the fence if he was so scared of supporting those striking today.

andraste Thu 30-Jun-11 14:56:34

They have my support all the way, if I'd had to take the day off work I would have taken my children to join in the march. smile

MamaCorleone Thu 30-Jun-11 14:59:48

smile Completely have my support. Even it has meant an extra day of sibling squabbling and parental servitude. hmm

marimo Thu 30-Jun-11 15:04:02

Signing in. If we value teachers, we'll pay them and treat them properly.

Same goes for nurses, who to my mind are paid appallingly for highly stressful work.

KnottyLocks Thu 30-Jun-11 15:11:42


MillieMummy Thu 30-Jun-11 15:16:46

smile and a big thumbs up !

TMurray Thu 30-Jun-11 15:20:28

I support the teachers' action today - it's about time the public sector stood up and put the record straight. The pensions are not 'gold plated' and there are preposterous estimates flying around about how much their pensions could be worth. If the MPs want to reduce the cost of pensions perhaps they should start by looking closer to home by reviewing their own!


Yes Yes Yes all the way!

katalex Thu 30-Jun-11 15:35:54

Full support from me. Teachers do a fantastic job and should be rewarded for it in retirement smile

aliceliddell Thu 30-Jun-11 15:37:22

Congratulations on a successful day of action. So, Michael Gove - Ha! Ha! and what was the other thing? Oh yes - Ha!

ScramblyEgg Thu 30-Jun-11 15:40:03


EightiesChick Thu 30-Jun-11 15:59:08

Sorry, just to correct what I posted earlier: the BMA have voted by 87% in favor for a ballot on industrial action. They have not yet voted for industrial action itself, though that is now a 'very real possibility' according to the Guardian, and hasn't happened since 1975.

RamblingRosa Thu 30-Jun-11 16:01:53

All those striking today - not just the teachers - have my support. 100% smile

pumkinsmummy Thu 30-Jun-11 16:02:10

Can we have a thread instead called 'Wake Up and Smell the Coffee'

buzzsore Thu 30-Jun-11 16:07:48


Sky312 Thu 30-Jun-11 16:15:51

I support the teachers - 100%.

cinnamontoast Thu 30-Jun-11 16:17:31

smile smile smile smile smile

DS made the point that no one seemed remotely concerned when the schools closed because of a few inches of snow, so why was Gove claiming one day off because of strike action was jeopardising his education? Good lad!

lindipops Thu 30-Jun-11 16:23:44

Definately got my support. There has been too much rubbish and mis-information about public sector workers earning these amazing wages and getting gold plated pensions. It just isn't true. As in any organisation it is the people at the top who do well. Teachers have a lot to deal with on top of trying to teach like horrendous amounts of paperwork, difficult parents and abusive or disinterested pupils etc. So yes I totally support them and I know that I could not do that job.

Selks Thu 30-Jun-11 16:23:56

Here too

smile for the teachers ... and the rest (PCS member here).

Terribletriplets Thu 30-Jun-11 16:37:49

I have been paying into a pension since I started working and I have a pension pot that will give me a pension of £1545. I am pretty jealous of the teachers. I will have no option but to work until I drop, at B and Q, if they are still around.

rhinobaby Thu 30-Jun-11 16:44:15

smile supporting the strike all the way

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 16:45:42

It's fantastic to see so much support here smile
if this thread reaches 400 posts I'll crack open the champagne and start singing Billy Bragg songs -

cinnamontoast Thu 30-Jun-11 16:48:20

Solidarity, I'm tempted to add another 48 posts myself just for the pleasure of hearing Billy Bragg songs.

SpringHeeledJack Thu 30-Jun-11 16:50:20

in case anyone's interested/on facebook, you might like to C&P this status update I've just seen:

"Remember when teachers, nurses, doctors and lollipop ladies crashed the stock market, wiped out banks, took billions in bonuses and paid no tax? No, me neither. Please copy and paste to your status for 24 hours to show your support for the strikes against the government"

Peachy Thu 30-Jun-11 16:51:34

OOh I love Billy Bragg

Many on Mn will not be amazed LMAO

Dh otoh would weep.

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 16:53:19

Ha ha - maybe I'll link some BB later.

Posting that on FB now SHJ - thanks!

GrungeBlobPrimpants Thu 30-Jun-11 16:57:43

Signing in to register my support

Sat opposite a teacher sporting an NUT sticker on tube this afternoon. We grinned at each other as he spotted my 'Stop the Cuts' PCS sticker smile (am not PCS member but there are PCS members at my workplace)

Avaggdu Thu 30-Jun-11 17:02:05

I've just cancelled my Sky TV subscription because I basically can't afford such luxuries and bought a freeview box instead.

I'm off to watch some free TV and enjoy that in some small way it reduces the profit of a private company so the shareholders will have to sack more employees to maintain their profits and the former employees will end up on benefits that the reducing number of taxpayer pays, but the public service isn't there to get them in jobs and keep the country running, let alone catch, supervise or convict the increasing number of criminals who rob other people to get money, commit arson and other crimes through dissatisfaction, or treat the victims in hospitals or educate their kids so they don't follow the same route.

See you at the finish line for the race to the bottom, everyone. You get the government you vote for, and what you deserve.

cinnamontoast Thu 30-Jun-11 17:02:17
Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 17:05:36

oh yesssssssssssssssss

luckylou Thu 30-Jun-11 17:11:53

Thanks for this thread, Solidarity (great name); I've just read it all the way through - I'm a former teacher, and it does my old heart good to see teachers (and other workers) taking action, and all the support on this thread!


thebestisyettocome 'been the victim of endless weeks, months of teachers striking in the eighties'. I've pointed this out on at least one thread on this topic before - the number of days when teachers were on strike in the 80s was in single figures, and I mean the entire decade.

noffty Thu 30-Jun-11 17:13:09

Me too :-)

piellabakewell Thu 30-Jun-11 17:17:33


Varjak Thu 30-Jun-11 17:18:08

I have 3 boys of school age and I fully support the striking teachers - and the other public sector workers. It's so unfair to make these people pay for the crisis caused by the bankers and their rich mates. I just read that for every £1 the government spends on teachers pensions it spends £2.50 subsidising the pensions of the top 1% of earners. So why are teachers first in line to cough up when cash is tight?

mrshomersimpson Thu 30-Jun-11 17:18:19


flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:19:34

PCS member and rep here smile

How fantastic to see a positive thread about the strikes.

The misinformation and lies out there about teachers and public sector "gold plated" pensions is so bloody frustrating.

You know what the average public sector pension is? Around £4k.

Gold plated MY ARSE.

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:21:03

By the way, has anyone mentioned that MPs are retaining their final salary pensions? They seem to be keeping that one pretty quiet.

Teachermumof3 Thu 30-Jun-11 17:21:40

Yep-am striking here today. Support given in bucketfuls.


helpmenow Thu 30-Jun-11 17:22:27


hockeyforjockeys Thu 30-Jun-11 17:24:33

To those who think teachers go out on a whim, I am desperately hoping that the action we have taken today and the fairly high level of public support a) gets the government to make the overdue apprasial of the scheme and be open and honest about the financial impact, and b) allows for a fair deal to be thrashed out in the next few weeks. What I want more than anything else (other than fair pension obv!) is to not have to continue this into the autumn, which will actually have a detrimental effect on my pupils' education that today's action hasn't.

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:24:40

luckylou - you are right. I grew up in the eighties and the schools were never closed for days or weeks at a time.

Funnily enough, my education and the education of my peers (state school all the way, all graduates...) was not too damaged by the reckless behaviour of striking teachers.

alienbump Thu 30-Jun-11 17:25:09


ensure Thu 30-Jun-11 17:26:42


Footpad Thu 30-Jun-11 17:27:05

Don't start me on MPs flippinada ...I rant into my cornflakes most days over these self important parasites. Grrrrrrrr

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 17:27:35

My pleasure luckylou smile

jellybrain Thu 30-Jun-11 17:28:26

Here's a smile from me. Members of our union joined the teachers marching through Oxford today during our lunch break. There was a great turn out and good support from bystanders.

I was really surprised that only 1 teacher in DCs school (primary) was on strike today - I hope they appreciate my efforts on their behalf!

pot39 Thu 30-Jun-11 17:36:58

Have our support. Both kids (11 and 15) at different schools off today. Took them to St Pauls Cathedral, so they got a bit of education and bribed them with a Pret A manger Lunch.
Appalled that Gove seems to think that school is childcare. Would like to see him teach 30 yr 6's all day every day until he is 66.


flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:38:05

Footpad, did you know that according to Danny Alexander, we don't pay tax?

Wish someone had told my employers...grin

greenrock Thu 30-Jun-11 17:39:17

Adding my support

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:39:44

I'm actually amazed at the level of support considering the onslaught we are getting from the press, mps etc.

Cupcakeaddict Thu 30-Jun-11 17:40:32


Snusmumriken Thu 30-Jun-11 17:42:18

They have my support!

blackeyedsusan Thu 30-Jun-11 17:42:31


except our teacher wasn't on strike... angry I expect I will "say different" when I have gone back to work, and can someone put that in proper english for me... brain tired is.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

pretentiouswasteoftime Thu 30-Jun-11 17:44:14

Solidarity Sisters and Brothers out there....

Am not a teacher and DS's teacher wasn't on strike (much to DS's dismay grin).

I am right behind the teachers, think they do a fabulous job. My son has thrived in the care of his lovely teacher this year. Can't put a price on that at all.

Starchart Thu 30-Jun-11 17:46:46

How many of you (especially the teachers) have fedback on the SEN green paper?

skiffler Thu 30-Jun-11 17:47:26

More support here.

Macaroona Thu 30-Jun-11 17:49:44


Starchart Thu 30-Jun-11 17:50:17
flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 17:50:36

Can I just correct one of my posts slightly...obviously not all of ny peers went to university but a good proportion of my year group at the state high school I attended did. Just wanted to clarify because otherwise the statement sounds slightly ridiculous.

CPenders Thu 30-Jun-11 17:55:39

I think the teachers should just get back to their work and do what they are employed to do. We are all suffering in the current economic climate one way or another either through pay cuts, redundancies, pension changes or another way. But at the end of the day they have a job and they should do it to the best of their capabilities. My two sons have been off all day and again have an inset day tomorrow so that is two full days worth of education that they have missed out on!!!! It is absolutely not necessary.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 17:55:41

luckylou. It only takes a single day off for a whole week/month whatever to be disrupted. I remember whole chunks of my education being disrupted. Perhaps other people had teachers who belonged to different Unions.

I am a sole voice of dissent on this thread and so I know I will get flamed but as I have said I support the teachers not the method. I dislike striking as a form of protest. So does DH who recalls his father constantly being on strike and being blacklisted as a result. It acheived little, apart from having the affect of plunging the family into poverty for long periods of time.

As far as I can tell the teaching Unions could've boxed a lot cleverer with the Government. Instead of keeping their powder dry and doing what their enemy least expected them to do, they decided to strike. This plays right into the Government's hands. Where do the teachers go now? The Government haven't caved into their demands. They'll dig their heels in even further. So now the teachers (and others) have lost the support and sympathy of the Tories, the Lib dems and even Labour. Why? Because of the macho, swaggering politics of the Unions who have led them down this blind alley.

And as for Billy Bragg. I remember Red Wedge vividly. It was a great source of comfort when it felt like everybody else had forgotton us. Only didn't BB try to distance himself from all of that mullarkey once he bought his clifftop mansion in Devon hmm

Knackerednancy Thu 30-Jun-11 17:56:14

Completely support the strike by public sector including teachers - you all deserve your pensions, my thanks and respect for your dedication and hard work, thank you.

HighNoon Thu 30-Jun-11 18:02:51

I support the strikes smile

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 18:05:35

Thank you Knackerednancy smile

thebestisyettocome - since when did the unions ever have the support of the Tories...? As for the turncoat lib dems...and the current Labour party leadership are a bunch of mealy mouthed Blairites anyway.

And as I mentioned above, none of them are prepared to sacrifice their final salary pensions.

itstooearly Thu 30-Jun-11 18:06:12

Supported here 100%

Varjak Thu 30-Jun-11 18:06:44

CPenders - The trouble is, we're not all suffering. Sales of luxury goods are hitting record levels. The very richest in the country, including the bankers who got us into this mess, have never had it so good. It's funny how, when people criticise bankers bonuses, we're told that we have to pay these people huge sums to get the very best. Yet when it comes to teachers and other public sector workers, who do jobs that make a huge impact on the quality of live in the UK, the same argument doesn't seem to apply - it's OK to attack their pay and conditions.

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 18:09:18

Link here about MP's pensions, for those who are interested.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 18:16:06

I'm not saying the Unions ever had the support of the Tories. I am seriously not that thick. I am saying that teachers now will struggle to count on the support of the Tory Government now they've taken this action.

university lecturer supporting the strike. Although no actual work going on today anyway....but I'm with you all in spirit smile

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 18:23:57

I'm sure you aren't thick thebest, but I'm not sure teachers have ever had the support of the Tories.

I speak as thegood friend/ child/step -child and grand-child of teachers so I know a lot about what they go through..albeit second hand of course.

Another pupil in the 80s here, do not remember being affected by strike action.

moonstorm Thu 30-Jun-11 18:29:17


canibe Thu 30-Jun-11 18:30:37


Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 18:37:34

Brilliant post Varjak -

And thank you for that link flipp -

Mum2PandT Thu 30-Jun-11 18:44:10

I am broadly supportive. However, it's easy for me to say that, as I am currently a stay at home mum. Having also been a full-time worker with 2 young children, I know how inconvenient it is for working parents. I'm sure a day or two of strikes will not have a detrimental effect on children's education, but it can be very disruptive to working families. Employers aren't always sympathetic when you need to take time off to look after children.

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 18:44:48

You're welcome Solidarity.

I'm really angry that public sector workers/teachers are being attacked as greedy and lazy when MPs are busy lining their own pockets and hoping we don't pay too much attention.


grumpykat25 Thu 30-Jun-11 18:48:06

Non striking teacher (wrong union) signing in with full support of my colleagues smile

prozacpopsie Thu 30-Jun-11 18:50:31

Vive la revolution!

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 18:50:33

I do understand that POV Mum2PandT. I'm a working single parent and wouldn't ask anyone to make a stand if I wasn't prepared to do so myself.

I was on strike today and I lost a days pay. However, I feel it is a sacrifice worth making. Not just for me but for my colleagues.

JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene Thu 30-Jun-11 18:51:12


OpinionatedPlusSprogs Thu 30-Jun-11 18:52:54


southofthethames Thu 30-Jun-11 18:55:56

wishing them all the best in getting a positive outcome worked out :-)

KatieMcFlightly Thu 30-Jun-11 18:56:55


iggitwotimes Thu 30-Jun-11 19:00:03


luckylou Thu 30-Jun-11 19:09:16

thebest - I wasn't a pupil in the 80s, I was a teacher, and an NUT member. There was no strike action that didn't involve NUT members. And even with the occasional unofficial strike (happy days), the number of strike days didn't reach double figures for the whole decade.

My guess is that what you're remembering is the period in 1984 when teachers worked to rule - which meant they took a lunch hour and refused to double up and cover the classes of absent colleagues once the absence went into its fourth day.

And yes, so dire were teachers' working conditions in those days that such action did often partially close schools - classes closed because they had no teacher, and schools closed for the lunch hour because there were no teachers prepared to supervise.

And to the person who said their kids were losing a days education because of an inset day on Friday - no, they're not. Inset days were taken from school holidays - children have exactly the number of days holiday they've always had, just spread out a bit. Teachers, though,l ost those days from their holidays as part of the Tories' attacks on them in the 80s

janey68 Thu 30-Jun-11 19:12:41

I support them

Full support here.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 19:13:04


I obviously don't remember the finer detail, being a child at the time but what you say does ring true because I recall it happening a lot at the time when the Miners were also striking.

Avaggdu Thu 30-Jun-11 19:30:08

Total support. Teachers, police, armed forces, fire service, civil servants and NHS do good and vital jobs for less pay. Who can deny them decent pensions after so many job losses and pay freezes?

We want our country back in the hands of Mumsnet, not Big Brother!

I was at school in the 80's. Luckylou is right, what you remember is teacher's working to rule, not striking.

I am a teacher, but don't work on Thursday's. I would most definitely have gone on strike though had it been on a day I work.

Full support for it smile

purplekersleaf Thu 30-Jun-11 19:33:07

work at a school myself and I know that teachers often work up to 80 hours a week if you include homework marking etc and a lot have more than one degree under their belt, for which they have worked long and hard. Take money from the bigwigs who get loads of incentives and bonuses as well as a huge wage and leave the hard working public alone.

wook Thu 30-Jun-11 19:33:40

smile Lovely thread to read. A good day here with a very large and good natured rally.
Then, teacher bashers, I went home and did loads of work!

Avaggdu Thu 30-Jun-11 19:37:11

I've just cancelled my Sky TV subscription because I basically can't afford such luxuries and bought a freeview box instead.

I'm off to watch some free TV and enjoy that in some small way it reduces the profit of a private company so the shareholders will have to sack more employees to maintain their profits and the former employees will end up on benefits that the reducing number of taxpayer pays, but the public service isn't there to get them in jobs and keep the country running, let alone catch, supervise or convict the increasing number of criminals who rob other people to get money, commit arson and other crimes through dissatisfaction, or treat the victims in hospitals or educate their kids so they don't follow the same route.

See you at the finish line for the race to the bottom, everyone. You get the government you vote for, and what you deserve.

Avaggdu Thu 30-Jun-11 19:59:53

Grumpycat...thanks for your support. I'm not a teacher and am on strike, but every voice who supports, just as every person who doesn't or can't vote but abides by the decision who does strike, is a voice that says to the government "You're wrong" is a welcome vote in principle.

Ever consider moving to another union that represents your views more?

aliceliddell Thu 30-Jun-11 20:00:42

I didn't vote for the bastards! In fact nobody voted 'coalition', Cameron couldn't get a majority and these policies were not mentioned beforethe election.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 20:04:22

Work to rule, slowdown, strike. It all adds up to the same thing. Disrupted education. Whatever the method, it meant kids sitting in classrooms doing fuck all.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 20:06:45
flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 20:09:15

That's the whole point of a strike thebest.

To cause disruption and inconvenience so that people take notice.

No one wants to go on strike. If you go on strike you lose money. People only strike as a last resort when then feel they are not being listened to.

And I also take exception to your comments that people are doing what they are ' told' to by the union.

Unions are democratic organisations that ballot their members on issues like strike action. If members did not support strike action they would vote no.

mummasita Thu 30-Jun-11 20:11:19

The teachers have my support, hope they get what they want!!

Kathsmum Thu 30-Jun-11 20:16:43

Thanks from another striking teacher. A bit disappointed by the vote, some teachers not behind it. ( Bet they'll take the money etc)

Footpad Thu 30-Jun-11 20:19:47

Just read the thing about MPs pensions and salaries - shock £65,000 salary? Plus expenses to pay spouse for answering the phone and the rest!?!

Plus a pay off when voted out - and all with no specific qualifications or experience except being a party hack.

Vive la revolution indeed.

Lilithmoon Thu 30-Jun-11 20:26:58


flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 20:27:00

Well exactly footpad - but people are getting all aerated about the selfish lazy teachers and public sector workers.

This is information is out there and it seems people really aren't bothered.
Perhaps they think MPs deserve it for all their stirling hard work?

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 20:27:05

Thebest; - I know I can't stop you posting on this thread, but it was started it to give teachers, (and other PSW ) support and encouragement. I think with over 400 posts I've achieved my aim ( thank you to everyone who's posted )

The overwhelming message here is one of support - one or two negative posts will do nothing to dampen that.

Here's to our teachers wine - smile

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 20:27:39

Of course I mean sterling. Stirling is a place in Scotland smile

Whizpuff Thu 30-Jun-11 20:31:42


flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 20:34:19

You're absolutely right Solidarity.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the level of support on here.

Curlyfrizzball Thu 30-Jun-11 20:37:46


ShoeJunkie Thu 30-Jun-11 20:39:06


thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 20:44:40

I'm just responding to the critisism of my posts Solidarity.

Total smile support for all teachers and public sector workers from a PCS member who can't strike today as on unpaid maternity leave but would definitely be out otherwise.

newportstateofmind Thu 30-Jun-11 20:46:46

Thanks for starting this thread Solidarity....it's nice to know that there are people who support the strike when most of the media coverage seems to have been negative.


Haribojoe Thu 30-Jun-11 20:47:03

grin vive la revoution!

LadySharrow Thu 30-Jun-11 21:18:25

Thankyou to everyone who took the time to post. It was a very hard decision to strike, and to find so many parents expressing their support has been an overwhelming virtual experience!

cinnamontoast Thu 30-Jun-11 21:25:35

Woah, thebestisyettocome, I just want to go back a few pages. Billy Bragg may well live in West Dorset but that doesn't mean he has sold out and I hardly see why he should be expected to stay in a council house in Barking for the rest of his life - aren't we meant to be proud of social mobility? At the last election, he fought the BNP in Barking for weeks and got a result to be proud of: a Labour MP, and all the BNP members were kicked off the council. He is still as politically active as ever, and is totally inspirational.

Sorry, Solidarity, I don't mean to take this thread away from the strike (although others seem to want to). I totally support what public sector workers are doing and have explained to my children that the right to withhold your labour is a fundamental human right - without it, we are little better than slaves. The one good thing that has come out of this shitty little coalition is the resurgence of solidarity and activism - only this time it spans all ages and all classes, which gives me cautious hope for the future.

A final smile

angelbean Thu 30-Jun-11 21:34:57


toutlemonde Thu 30-Jun-11 21:39:11

I'm a working parent not a teacher. DS and I were on the march in London today - full solidarity and support with all the striking teachers.

mumsknowsbestok Thu 30-Jun-11 21:40:25

they ve got my support too although i doubt it will make any difference

Gillg57 Thu 30-Jun-11 21:41:14

Definitely support. I wish Mumsnet would not make sweeping statements on our behalf.

mumsknowsbestok Thu 30-Jun-11 21:44:00

i agree

mumsknowsbestok Thu 30-Jun-11 21:45:11

although i dont think it will make a difference

JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene Thu 30-Jun-11 21:45:51

What has mumsnet said then?

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 21:46:28


Silly me. I forgot that I am always bumping into Billy Bragg in my hometown as he enquires about the well-being of the ex-miners he used to love singing about hmm

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 21:47:17

Cinnomontoast; It's been a pleasure having you on this thread - thank you for your support smile


thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 21:51:20

grin grin grin

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 21:52:25

Thebest; where do you expect Billy Bragg to live? - down a disused mine in Doncastor? -

BarryShitpeas Thu 30-Jun-11 21:56:47

My name is Barry Shitpeas and I support the striking teachers.

ATL speeches were very moving today.

BootyMum Thu 30-Jun-11 21:59:32


Squshe Thu 30-Jun-11 22:03:26

I'm a teacher and a mum so I was on strike today, with my children off as well. I have to admit, I was even more motivated by my girls being off today, as I would have had to pay the childminder my day's wages anyway. The amount of work us teachers put in is phenomenal, but we love our jobs. It is a shame we had to be driven to striking today. Thank you to all you mums who support us. It means a lot to us. Sometimes, it can feel like we never do a good enough job!

Amen to that Squshe

squaresausage Thu 30-Jun-11 22:11:53

smile and smile again.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 22:11:58

'Down a disused mine in Doncaster.' I find that really quite offensive.

If you ever see the abject poverty that people still endure in some towns and villages in the aftermath of the mines closures, you would perhaps realise that there is still an argument that the Government should provide more assistance. Some investment in jobs would be a great start. Now that a couple of decades have passed and miners aren't fashionable anymore Billy and all those students from the Home Counties who loved to wear 'Coal Not Dole' stickers don't appear to be saying much on the matter.

hester Thu 30-Jun-11 22:13:06


Marcy78 Thu 30-Jun-11 22:18:05


sproingle Thu 30-Jun-11 22:19:13


Grockle Thu 30-Jun-11 22:19:28

I was on strike today and took DS to our local rally so he could see what it was all about. I was surprised to see reps from other unions who weren't on strike today.

munkiii Thu 30-Jun-11 22:20:53


Feenie Thu 30-Jun-11 22:21:47

I was on strike too, did take ds to school (a rare treat) but found his teacher on a picket line; his class was to be covered by a TA. So I took ds to the local rally - lots and lots of people from all the unions. Very heartening to see them working together.

Grockle Thu 30-Jun-11 22:24:04

shock Feenie - covered by a TA?

Glad the rally was good. I enjoyed it today. Would rather have been at work (and getting paid) but I think it was a valuable thing for DS to be part of.

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 22:24:16

One of my colleagues and fellow reps on the picket line today is an ex-miner who was involved in the strikes.

He remembers exactly how bad it was...and that's one of the reasons he was out today.

JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene Thu 30-Jun-11 22:25:09

Still supporting the teachers despite the shitty coverage on the beeb.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 22:25:14

Does he remember how badly it ended for them too?

Feenie Thu 30-Jun-11 22:26:37

Yes, I had misgivings at first about taking ds, since I hadn't planned to but I was proud to do so in the end, particularly when dh joined us for UCU from a nearby town after his rally finished.

TheFeministsWife Thu 30-Jun-11 22:28:46

Have my support. My DH was on strike today although not a teacher he is a public sector worker. Today was actually his day off but he went down to the rally anyway. Afterwards we took the kids to the park and had a lovely afternoon as they were off too. smile

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 22:28:59

I don't think anyone who was involved could forget how badly it went for the miners thebest.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 22:31:11

Are people really so naive that they don't look back at the lessons history teaches us? Some of the strikers today must be history teachers ffs.

JoleneJoleneJoleneJoleeene Thu 30-Jun-11 22:34:15

How much worse would have the miner's situation had been if they hadn't striked?

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 22:35:17

I think you may have to accept that people support the strike and feel strongly about it thebest. They want to make a stand. It's clear you don't agree with the action, fair enough.

thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 22:38:15

I think they should've taken a different stance. They should've told the Government that they would agree to go on the proviso of a promise of investment in industry in every affected area. Instead, both sides took an implacable and hostile postion neither could back down from and the Miners got screwed over.

No doubt lots of mining families would disagree but history has told us their approach failed.

I'm off now. Apologies for spoiling the thread, especially to Solidarity. We are on the same side, just arguing it from different perspectives...

flippinada Thu 30-Jun-11 22:42:11

I can see we are thebest.

I do see where you're coming from too and can understand your POV.

Personally I believe we are in for a whole lot worse than what's happening now and I'm really worried about what the future holds.

But anyway - still want to show my support.

Farhana Thu 30-Jun-11 22:42:25

i support smile

Solidarity Thu 30-Jun-11 22:45:34

Thebest; it's ok honestly -

Here wine let's end the night happy.

Grumpla Thu 30-Jun-11 22:46:54

Supportive grin from me!

TINKERBELLE33 Thu 30-Jun-11 22:50:15


thebestisyettocome Thu 30-Jun-11 22:50:56


scottishmummy Thu 30-Jun-11 23:05:02

i support the teachers.

Angubaba Thu 30-Jun-11 23:05:03

Hello, am a teacher and mummy who was on strike today (/Struck?) and it is heartwarming to have your support. I get that teachers are lucky to have a pension in place but the way Con-Dems have approached renegotiation of terms is so derogatory/bullying that we have to strike (unpaid) to be 'heard'. Went on the march, played in the garden with son in the afternoon. Blissful break in what is usually a sixty-hour working week. Thanks again for your support x

exoticfruits Thu 30-Jun-11 23:20:00


ChantingAsISpeak Thu 30-Jun-11 23:34:47

I am a teacher, I don't have a 'gold plated pension', I pay for my pension (at least £150000 over a 40 year career) - I support the strike smile

NaomiCole Thu 30-Jun-11 23:45:59

Thank you girls for all the support, it's really appriciated. (It's nearly midnight but I'm still working, tomorrow won't teach itself!)

NaomiCole Thu 30-Jun-11 23:46:29

Would help if I could spell I'm sure! appreciated

debivamp Fri 01-Jul-11 00:13:16

totally have my support.

debivamp Fri 01-Jul-11 00:14:05

totally have my support

angst Fri 01-Jul-11 00:29:01

I support all public sector workers in this struggle. There seems to be a lot of jealousy out there re the so called gold plated pensions. Perhaps there should not be a race to the bottom but a fight to make all pensions fit for purpose in the private sector also.

It is only very recently that public sector salaries have outstripped those in the private sector which means there are many years of catch up. The "reliable" pension was what made the low wages palatable.

pinklizzie Fri 01-Jul-11 06:30:27

CHANTING - genuine question - is your pension worth £150K.

My pension that I have struggled to get to a value of £100K - private pension that I have paid into will provide around £8 a year when I retire.

What will your pension provide per year on retirement?

pinklizzie Fri 01-Jul-11 06:33:18

Also - what did all the teachers with children do with their children when they strike? How picks up their childcare?

It was not a major but I have started a new job so had to take some unpaid time off and catch cabs to and from work to minimise my time away. My DH had to be late for a meeting - so we've both been in the dog box over the strikes... I still support the strikes but really hope for selfish reason there are not more.

backtoblighty Fri 01-Jul-11 06:53:41

fully support :-)

muminlondon Fri 01-Jul-11 08:18:47

Looked like successful day to me - Francis Maude shown up on the Today as 'floundering', intelligent articulate women union members (their unions not affiliated to a political party) refusing to be patronised. I've learned sone interesting things - the ideological motive for reducing pensions (e.g. make public services attractive for sell-off). Well done all you teachers. smile

Inertia Fri 01-Jul-11 08:45:52

Bit late to this, but would like to offer my support to those who were on strike .

Solidarity Fri 01-Jul-11 08:53:06

Never too late.


ohmeohmy Fri 01-Jul-11 09:19:23

my late support freely given

Behrones Fri 01-Jul-11 09:31:53

smile smile smile

blimey Fri 01-Jul-11 14:15:45


ninani Fri 01-Jul-11 14:29:38

..ahem I only saw this thread in the newsletter.

Teachers still have my support smile

all4u Tue 05-Jul-11 17:28:16

smile It was lovely having my teenagers at home for the day! Very special.

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