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If you had a choice - wood burner or gas fire? Help!(39 Posts)
I don't have a chimney or hearth but want to install a fire.
I've always wanted a wood burner but, thinking about it, a gas fire seems like a better option:
No fuel to source
No lighting it then worrying if I have to go out
No ugly flue
The gas fire I've seen is beautiful - with a tiled surround, iron looking grate, just like the one that should be in my Victorian/ Edwardian house. But would a wood burner be better/ nicer?
There should not be draughts with a properly installed woodburner
We had a woodburner years ago, but even after paying top price for good, seasoned logs cut to size, we were always at mercy of supplier dumping big, green lumps on drive while we were out, and DH reckoned another winter feeding it would probably finish him off. I've a pretty live-fire-effect gas fire now, which I just don't bother using as radiators are so efficient and I prefer to block chimney to avoid draughts (altho these are not as bad as with woodburner).
Congratulations OP on making a wise choice, and thanks to PigletJohn for fuel-cost info.
we made the mistake of putting in a gas fire when we renovated our house. the gas fire is rated at 11kw but to be honest if we put it on full and stand any more than a foot away from it you cannot feel any heat from it AT ALL - it is a complete waste of money. we have central heating so the fire is really just for show but isnt even good for that - it wastes lots and lots of gas too. we have now blocked the chimney off for the time being as all that happens now is we get a draft down it.
we live in an old victorian house so we have a chimney, hearth etc. but if i didnt i wouldnt put one in, I personally dont think its worth it.
Look at www.chesneys.co.uk and select gas stoves. They look like woodburners but are gas run. You can buy online. They are top quality stoves.
The gas ones certainly do look better because they really do have flames. Although some of the heat goes up the chimney, electricity costs three times as much as gas so you will still come out ahead.
The glass-fronted ones are higher efficiency but do not look as good.
are you thinking living flame type thing or fakey woodburner sort? there are good ones of both around. if you like the look of a woodburner then some nice (other fuelled!) ones - trying to reactivate my brain cell and remember where I saw them
Thank you so much for all the info. I think, because of my health, sadly a woodburner would be too much work and end up a bit pointless. So, that leaves me with gas or electric... does anyone know which is going to be better?
havent read the whole thread sorry, just the last few posts. we have both in 2 diff rooms obv. the living flame gas fire gets used daily. the woodburner gets used rarely as it's a pita although lovely when it is on. mucho faff in reality and hangs on availability of nice dry wood and the motivation to bring it in
I've got one I hardly use - it's lovely, but I no longer have the free wood supply that I had when I first had it installed. I find that even if I forage for bits when I'm out with the dogs, it isn't enough to keep it fed.
It doesn't help of course that if I do pick up a nice chunk, the Labradors spend the rest of the walk slathering around me, jumping up, desperate for me to throw it for them!
We've got a multifuel burner and a gas fire that looks like a multifuel burner. The multifuel is fab - it warms the bones of the house up, wouldnt be without it. It works best with a layer of ash in it anyway so only needs clearing out when both ash pans are full. As for cleaning the glass, its as simple as pulling out the airwash knob. It overrides our central heating too, so saves loads of money as we can get wood for nothing.
We never use the gas stove. It looks nice (because it looks like a wood burner), but it just isnt the same as the real thing.
Having said all that, a real fire does make the room a bit dustier and its a faff carrying wood up from the wood store. If both of those are an issue, I wouldnt go for one.
Thanks Gucci - I must admit I haven't seriously looked into it, but the opening is only about 18" wide by 24" high so I assumed too small. Our hearth is too small as well and we haven't really got room for log baskets, although we could just carry through a few at a time from the other room.
Agree with having multifuel, we only really use wood with ours but it's good to have the option of solid fuel. Also to minimal bars, ours is a two door design and the one in the showroom had each window divided into 4 squares, we asked for it to be just one pane in each and am glad we did so.
Ours is supposed to self clean the glass but doesn't, however a damp wad of newspaper dipped in the ash pan and rubbed over the glass does a brilliant job of cleaning it.
We have a see through real flame gas fire - original plan was woodburner but then the council refused permission for new builds so then we looked at pellet burners (cleaner, easier to use, more Eco friendly). Then I saw a see through gas fire in the wall at one of the local pubs, loved it and insisted we get one love it, it's warm and friendly and cosy and easy! We have a part wall dividing an otherwise open plan living/dining room and it's in there.
I have done a lot of research on this lately and the best way to go is multi fuel. It gives you the flexibility of not just using wood. WhoKnowsWhereTheMistletoes you can get an inset multi fuel log burner to fit into an original cast iron surround. I have found one by Esse that can convert my victorian fireplace to a log burner.
Also it is important to get one with the largest window you can with no bars across as the joy of watching the fuel burn is part of the experience. Some log burners have a type of glass that doesn't tarnish so that it is much clearer to see your fuel burn, but I have forgotten the name, Esse do them though.
I am not sure about venting it through a wall though. The fitting cost may well put you off.
I adore my wood burner. It really does heat the bottom of my little house. I also love chopping and sawing wood even if my body doesn't. It appeals to my little house on the prairie instincts. I love being self reliant when we lose power too.
We have a multifuel and I don't find it too much hassle. No chopping wood - buy it pre-chopped by the pallett. Made a woodstore out of leftover palletts. Stacking it after delivery is a bit of a pain.
Even a small woodburner (say 4-5kw) should keep a small house warm in an evening. Our heating kicks off after it has been lit for 45 mins. I think gas fires are mostly decorative aren't they? Very inefficient....
What about a pellet stove? Don't personally know a whole lot about them, as we have always had a gas fireplace. My dad has mentioned them and is really keen to get one after they move house.
Our wood burner and open fire really were invaluable during three days of no power over Christmas. Fortunately I have a husband prepared to do the hard graft and plenty of free wood. Combination of coal and wood work best. Looks miles better than a gas fire. Not sure if I would be bother to light it very often if it was all down to me though!
Wood burner every single time. Was a life saver when our central heating system broke down last year. Is lovely to look at, heats very quickly and is easy to clean.
Saying that, unless you have a cheap supply of wood, it's not cheap, it can be a hassle to clean (unless you do really like it- which I do). The heat isn't controllable, I have been known in the past to have to open a window as its got too hot!!
We had an open fire in our old house. I loved it, but it was a lot of work and I expect a wood burner is the same. DH had to chop and log up all the bits of tree, cart it onto the wood pile. I then had to bring in a basket full each day, clean and light the fire, fill the coal scuttle etc. I had to go out side in the rain/snow/dark/cold to fetch the fuel for the fire. So, as much as I love the look of the fire,I'm not sure it's worth all the work. I didn't notice much extra dust as a result of the fire though
Or electric... I think the one I liked best was electric
'wildlife' doesn't bother me but I am not able to split and carry tons of logs, due to illness. I can do a few but not a lot. And extra cleaning is not ideal!
We buy logs, so no chopping etc but we only use it one or two evenings a week and only use one load of logs (£50) per winter. It takes one person a couple of hours to wheelbarrow it from the drive to the back and stack it. If it is lit for hours and hours it does warm most of the (small) house, but really doesn't just over the course of an evening. It does make a bit of a mess too, sawdust, splinters and ash around the hearth. You need to factor in the cost of getting it swept too (ours costs £40). It is a luxury not a heating replacement for us. I do love it despite all this.
we have two woodburners, and I love them, but i have dh and teens to chops wood. I can do it, but it is knackering
as is an afternoon spent stacking a tonne of wood. As a family we can get it done in an hour or so, but that is three or four of us moving each and every piece from the drive to the woodstore
and the spiders!!
and the cats often take offence to the logs and try to pee on them. Which is nice. NOT!
So yes, they are lovely and warm, but lots of work and mess.
you say you have no chimney or hearth. What will it cost to get one?
btw I would go for a multifuel not a woodburner. More flexibility in fuel, and a sack of solid fuel burns longer, and hotter, with more heat than a barrow of wood.
Do you have a free source of substantial logs? Are you willing and able to saw, split and store them? and carry them inside in cold weather? are you comfortable with bringing wildlife into your living room?
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