Parking... Child Bays abused!

(58 Posts)
KatieChooChoo Fri 29-Nov-13 12:46:14

Does anyone else find that cheeky lazy arrogant people abuse the parking bays set aside for PARENTS with YOUNG CHILDREN!!! Young not meaning 22 years old as one pair of loud mouthed lazy pigs once did in front of me.

I see so many people park up in a child bay without a child in site. They toddle into the supermarket to gran a few bits, so use OUR bays for their convenience.

The supermarket i use regularly only have 15 parent and child bays and at least 600 other spaces (its a massive store where 'every little helps').

Even lazy transit van drivers pull up in these spaces. I see them trotting back to the van scoffing a pie from the hot counter.

Ive complained about this both in person and via email, im still waiting for a response from my email.

Does anyone else get mad about this or is it just me??

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 12:47:04

And this is the 3rd thread about this this week.

Seriously, take a valium and calm down.

dannin Fri 29-Nov-13 12:52:01

I agree. The supermarket we use is small so only has about six family spaces. Regularly I see a middle aged man parked in one of the spaces, having watched him a few times I realised he sits and waits whilst his wife does the shopping. She comes out (no children In tow) with a full trolley and loads it all into the car whilst he still sits and waits. I have had to Park in normal spaces further away from the entrance many times because of him and people like him.

KatieChooChoo Fri 29-Nov-13 12:52:31

Easier said then done when im 6 months pregnant and have a 2 year old.
I was not aware there were other threads of this nature, so that tells me there is an issue with the abuse of parking.
Seriously, consider how people can be offended by your comments and be mindful how your posts come across.

DropYourSword Fri 29-Nov-13 12:52:36

ANOTHER one?!?

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 12:55:20

Read the threads. The issue is people who think these spaces are anything but a courtesy created by shops to get you to shop there.

Children are not a handicap and neither is being pregnant.

And look to yourself in your last sentence. You sound incredibly entitled and self centred.

But you probably are you wouldn't have started this thread to begin with.

I have no issue with the way I spoke or what I said. I own my shit.

Do you?

You can complain as much as you like.

It's not going to make any difference.

These spaces are not essential. They are just nice to have.
If they didnt exist you would have to park in a "normal" space anyway.

Getting yourself worked up about it is ridiculous. Just park, do your shopping and go home.

SilverApples Fri 29-Nov-13 12:58:12

New MN campaign.
P&C spaces at the furthest corner of the supermarket car park, with a marked footpath.

And,honestly? 6 months pregnant and a 2 year old?
How do you think parents coped in that situation before these bays existed?

DropYourSword Fri 29-Nov-13 12:59:10

I predict this will not end well at all...

silver how many parents do you think would use them if they were furthest away? grin

Bumbolina Fri 29-Nov-13 12:59:44

I think that all parent and child spaces should be placed in the furthest away spots. I don't need to be close to the store - there is nothing wrong with mine or my child's mobility (and my newborn will be carried/pushed). What I do need however is more space to get my car seat out.
If they were further away no-one else would want them. Problem solved.

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:00:02

It's certainly not starting well, Drop.

And I feel I've done all of this before...

If you feel this strongly about it, you have the option to campaign to make p&t spaces protected by law. Atm they are a courtesy and in no way enforceable or legally restricted, so although they ask that people use them as intended, there's no law that says they have to.

The only way they could do it, if it's private land, is to issue their customers with a penalty notice for parking not in accordance with their wishes. But a quick google reveals these are often practically unenforceable and besides, would a supermarket choose to alienate one market segment in order to appease another?

What it is pointless doing, in so far as it will change nothing, is ranting about it on here. It's theraputic certainly grin but won't alter anything. If you want to see change - make change.

Even suggesting that supermarkets move the P&T spaces away from the entrance would help. It's the space that's needed, not the car door to their door service.

Is it really the space that's needed, though?

I don't know, I don't use them because my DCs are teenagers and I shop online, but when I did have a 1 year old and a 2 year old, I managed to get them out of the car with no issues in a normal space?

Pancakeflipper Fri 29-Nov-13 13:03:12

I often myself walking into the supermarket having parked up in a child/parent spot to remember I don't have my children actually with me.

I think I might be really naughty when my children are older and continue to use them at our supermarket (which has over 20 such slots)as they are so much easier to park in.

Ra88 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:03:27

Get over it and join the other 4 threads from this week !

Fwiw.. It's not illegal to park in p&c spaces without a child

randomquicknamechange Fri 29-Nov-13 13:04:32

Just park somewhere else. Nobody is abusing anything Hint: if you you can't park a big car get a smaller car . Hint 2: if you struggle opening the doors park at the back of the car park - there is almost always space.

Bumbolina Fri 29-Nov-13 13:06:34

Tantrums - yes, it really is the space that is needed. I have a three door car, and I physically can't get the car seat out of the car without extra room. The car seat is part of the pram (travel system) so I have to remove it from the car rather than just take the baby.
The extra space is useful but not essential with a little person that can get themselves in and out of the car - just makes life that bit easier.

Figgygal Fri 29-Nov-13 13:06:43

Having a 2yo I use 1 if they're free and don't worry about it if no sign of one. I really couldn't give a shiny shite about them really they're a gimmick Which seems to create ridiculous amounts of fury

I think so. So many people have big cars these days and spaces are quite tight so unless you're on the end of a row, trying to tie a small child into a car seat grin through a 6 inch gap is a bit tricky.

I think. I couldn't drive when mine were little so my husband took the car to work and so when it was just me, I had the fun of taking 2 babies (15 months between my two) in a double pushchair, on a bus, with all the stuff you need and wrestle all that plus any shopping I might need, back home on the bus too.

It was like something from the bloody krypton factor grin. After that, hanging down through the sunroof to fasten them in then slipping in through the boot was like a walk in the park wink

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:09:12

See, this is why I don't believe in car seats. The just make everyone's life harder. Who needs to save lives when there's parking to worry about!!!

Won't someone think of the parents?

Well, you see, the world would probably be better if people who don't need extra room to open their car doors and a path straight to the supermarket door didn't use them. But I can't get irate about it. Note: I'd include people taking their frail, elderly parents who need help getting in and out of cars to the supermarket and other people who have reason to value the extra wide spaces.

I think people who don't really need the features of these spaces would be much less likely to use them if they plonked them right at the back of the car park. So long as there's a safe path to the door, there's no reason they need to be closer to the door than other spaces. Disabled spaces do, for obvious reasons, need to be close by but parents with children can generally walk (or put their non-walkers in an appropriate carrying device, such as the trolley seat).

You might still get some folks who seek them out because they're crap at parking, but generally it would make them much less desirable. But then we'd get threads and threads of complaints about how they need to be near the shop because people with young children need to be right next to the door for some reason.

Or they could just make the spaces a little but wider generally.

They do.

That's why supermarkets almost always have gin on special offer.

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:13:42

Oh is that why? I thought they were just being nice.

They are. Very. grin

ButThereAgain Fri 29-Nov-13 13:18:17

There should definitely be special parent-and-teenager spaces. My 14 yo son can't walk more than five metres without either suffering from terminal exhaustion or engaging in a spot of safety-defying parkour. And anyhow, it's just plain dangerous to expect teenagers to negotiate traffic with a hand-held gaming device strapped to their eyeballs.

I didn't really notice any special baby-and-parent spaces when he was tiny so it's only fair that I should have a perk now to make up for it.

I've made this point before but I've used P&C spaces before now when I've had a bad arthritis flare up. I'm not disabled and am not in the category that would be entitled to a blue badge but every couple of months my arthritis is so bad that I am bent over like Quasimodo and then I will happily use a P&C place and have no issue telling anyone who challenges me why. They're not legally enforceable. End of.

KatieChooChoo Fri 29-Nov-13 13:20:13

Oh my goodness, the rudeness and aggressiveness from some of you is beyond belief. I suspect that some 'mummies' on here are experiencing withdrawals from Jeremy Kyle with it being Friday.
Hang on in there, just the weekend to get through.
mwah. xxxxxxx

This thread was not meant to be aimed at anyone personally, but some of your comments have been personal.
Harsh, small minded, bored housewife's.

ButThereAgain Fri 29-Nov-13 13:22:50

I think the "loud mouthed lazy pigs" in your OP probably set the tone Katie.

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:24:22

Seriously laughing out loud from OP's latest post.

Yes. Because you've shown yourself to be such a paragon of mummyhood and virtue.

Said it before, I'll say it again, look to yourself before you judge others.

ZombieMonkeyButler Fri 29-Nov-13 13:24:23

It's 'housewives'.

KatieChooChoo Fri 29-Nov-13 13:26:15


Tee, you seem to have a lot to say
Zombie, you'd make such a good English teacher.

SignoraStronza Fri 29-Nov-13 13:26:24

I'm trying to work out why anyone would need to get a car seat out. Doesn't really bother me. At my local Waitrose it generally tends to be the elderly or slightly doddery, who don't write qualify for a blue badge. Either that, or those who find parking too difficult or bothersome and therefore shouldn't be on the road in the first place.

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:27:33

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KatieChooChoo Fri 29-Nov-13 13:28:36

Im going to leave you all to it as you seem to be having such a great time being condescending mummies on this forum.

Enjoy and happy christmas to one and all.
Happy parking people!!

Tee2072 Fri 29-Nov-13 13:29:52

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EduCated Fri 29-Nov-13 13:30:38

What would you actually like the supermarket to do about it?

And those of us who actually wasted our time engaging with you and offering actual suggestions? No comment at all for us? just want to fight, yes?

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holidaysarenice Fri 29-Nov-13 13:35:29

The answer: put the p and child spaces at the far end of the car park.

They are not for closeness sake, they are there because they are wider.

Parents who moan and really care will use them. Parents who are moaning because they are being lazy will park elsewhere.

Win win.


I'm at work love.

DropYourSword Fri 29-Nov-13 13:37:45

That's right arbitrary...postman pat OP might be a bit crazy, but at least she's consistent and stands up for her totally unreasonable beliefs!

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zzzzz Fri 29-Nov-13 15:06:49

I park in the all the time and my youngest is 6.....I don't like walking across car parks with my children if I can help it and it was safer when I had a toddler and was pg. confused

It's called "risk assessment"

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Horrocious Fri 29-Nov-13 15:19:12

dammit, I saw the topic and thought there might be some photos uploaded of the offending loud-mouthed lazy pigs. What a disappointment.

ScrambledSmegs Fri 29-Nov-13 15:42:17

Mummies? hmm

If it wasn't for the 6 months pregnant thing I'd think this was someone I know.

JulieMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 29-Nov-13 18:46:57


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If you could have a think about them before you hit post that would be grand.

aoife24 Fri 09-May-14 16:15:07

'Abuse of parking', good grief.



There's a plethora of these threads - a six month old one intrigued yiu?


PatrickStarisabadbellend Fri 09-May-14 16:29:06

I'm going to park sideways on a mother and baby space just to see if a thread gets started about me.

gobbin Tue 13-May-14 21:57:59

Whatever did we do before parent-and-child spaces eh! Oh, I know. We walked. Just that extra bit further across the car park.

How do people cope in town centre multi-stories I wonder! Try Rupert Street car park in Bristol. Hard enough to get a normal body out of a car, never mind a pregnant one. But one copes.

samsam123 Sat 17-May-14 21:04:11

are the other spaces that far away from the store that you cant walk- they should get rid of them anyway

MrsPotatohead1 Fri 27-Jun-14 12:44:33

I don't have kids yet and don't use parent and child spaces...however I must confess that although I do park at the furthest point away, I usually take two spaces because our car has been scratched/dented in the past.


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