More stupidness from the pub at the back of my house

(51 Posts)
EasyMark Tue 24-Sep-13 14:51:27

Hi

Last bonfirenight i posted a thread about the pub having a bonfire and fireworks less than 25 meters from my livingroom. The South yorkershire fire service came on the thread and investgated so the pub took down the big bonfire and put all the wood into three oil barrels instead. The year before that the pub owner burnt my fence down and the fire service was called to put the fire out.

So now their newest stupid idea is to have two big dogs in their yard and use beer barrels as a wall to stop the dogs getting in my garden where my 1 & 4 year old play. Please see picture.

This has gone on for two weeks now so i dont think its tempary but no fence or wall has been put up. Its not safe, i want to get something done about it or AIBU?

shrinkingnora Tue 24-Sep-13 18:07:41
JenaiMorris Tue 24-Sep-13 18:21:00

Nice work, shrinkingnora grin

Bloody hell though OP, what tossers! What are the locals like? Would you be in danger of alienating yourself from the entire community if you get the terrible landlords removed, or are they not enamoured of them either (as was the case near me - the landlords were terrible and literally violent - they got hounded out of town)? Do they own the pub, or are they tenants?

EasyMark Tue 24-Sep-13 19:31:02

Thank you shrinkingnora

They own the pub and have done for 20 years so i guess people may not like it shuting down.

DameFanny Tue 24-Sep-13 19:34:45

I remember your thread next year. You poor thing!

YoniBottsBumgina Tue 24-Sep-13 19:38:46

shock I remember your thread from last year too. Utter morons! Please do keep your DC indoors, if they are as feckless with training their animals as they are with everything else then the dogs could be dangerous too sad It's not fair though to have to keep them out of your own garden!

I don't know who is best to call, sounds like posters have some good advice though!

YoniBottsBumgina Tue 24-Sep-13 19:39:27

Keep the DC out of their own garden, not the dogs. The landlords should be doing that, of course!

JenaiMorris Tue 24-Sep-13 19:47:02

Your aim shouldn't be to get the pub shut down (presumably it was there when you moved in) but to either get the landlords to up their game or have the pub taken over by someone else.

If they actually own the pub, losing their licence would ideally force them to sell but there is a chance (risk maybe) that they'll get someone else in to act as licensee. Which might be enough.

If they're doing such a shite job of maintaining their boundary and are so lackadaisical when it comes to fire safety it might well be that their pub management skills generally are crap - in which case the locals might be as pleased to have the pub change hands as you would be.

shrinkingnora Tue 24-Sep-13 19:47:08

Keep a log of every single transgression of the license - in that link it links to the licensing objectives so pay particular attention to these, they won't be interested if it's just that you don't like them. Lots of people buy houses by pubs and then complain that it's noisy at 930pm... This is so far beyond that it's ridiculous.

shrinkingnora Tue 24-Sep-13 19:49:25

I think if they lose their license then they can't have 'an associate' apply for a license for the same premises. Could be wrong though!

DoItTooJulia Tue 24-Sep-13 19:58:53

Is there any evidence of rats? Lots of rubbish? They may be breaching the Prevention of Damage by Pests Act. The council enforce this.

Licensing review is a must too.

Sometimes the police have a team that also deals with licensing enforcement. Have you got a copy of their full license? You are entitled to have one and review any if the conditions on there. If they are not being met the licensing officials need to be involved.

There is always more than one way to skin a cat. Really hoe you get it sorted.

JenaiMorris Tue 24-Sep-13 19:58:59

Shrinking Another pub near me had problems with NIMBY neighbours (I'm not accusing the OP of being unreasonably NIMBY btw!).

After years of unreasonable licensing restrictions which utterly destroyed their trade, and several licensees, the pub owner threw in the towel and the council gave change of use permission sad

On the upside, whinging neighbours now have a building site where the pub once stood as developers convert the site into several flats. HA flats, at that. Twat neighbours are apoplectic grin

EasyMark Tue 24-Sep-13 20:55:42

This pub has burnt down my fence, set off fireworks next to children and by standers, now they have two guard doys and have put beer barrels up on a wall that could fall on children and let dogs that may bite my children in my garden, and im the one being a knobb lol

I would be happy with HA flats thanks, instead of drunk men watching me breastfeed on my sofa in my livingroom.

Apart from the bonfires and the dangerous shit they do the pub is ok, no noise no late nights no rats no rotting rubbish. My dh had the house when i moved in, we own the house we cant move.

IABU i should just save up and build a wall.

shrinkingnora Tue 24-Sep-13 21:00:32

I meant their behaviour is so far beyond the bounds of normal behaviour for a pub that it is ridiculous. Your behaviour has been very restrained! They are arseholes.

EasyMark Tue 24-Sep-13 21:16:10

I dont see them getting any better so i think i will just get a loan to pay for a wall built and make it safe for my children as thats all i care about. I want my children to be safe to play out in their own back yard that is ment to be enclosed!

They cant burn a brick wall down but i bet they complaine about a 8 foot wall by their beer garden!

I really dont mind a pub being there or the noise or drunk people shouting - we are all havry sleepers. I would like them to put a wall or fence up as its a business and can afford it more than me and i dont mind it being used as a beer garden. Just put up a safe fence or wall!

EasyMark Tue 24-Sep-13 21:19:11

Also the dogs do bark alot at night and are kept on the roof of the pub with no railing and im scared one will fall off!

Can you plant a bamboo hedge? Leylandi? Cheaper than a brickwall.

Unless you will be without any sun - who cares about THEIR sun! grin

BOF Tue 24-Sep-13 21:33:14

A hedge isn't going to cut it for dogs though.ngod, it sounds just horrendous- I hope you get something sorted. What Grade A arseholes the are.

JenaiMorris Tue 24-Sep-13 22:34:03

Have you spoken to your councillor, OP?

iWantChampagneOnColaBudget Tue 01-Oct-13 23:49:44

as a pp correctly said, they'll need to re instate the fence to the same level it was before it was burnt down.

Looksgoodingravy Sat 19-Oct-13 14:46:07

Blimey, I think you're being very calm with the pub owners if they still haven't replaced your fence and now they've plonked these awful barrels as a barrier!

I think it's time to step up and I'd be ringing the council on Monday morning with a view to speaking to the enforcement officer in the planning department, also asking for emails to send copies of the photos you've attached on here. Do you have photos of the fence as it was?

I'd be fuming if I lived there!

Looksgoodingravy Sat 19-Oct-13 14:48:06

I'd also be getting quotes for a new fence and taking it to them and asking them when they proposed on moving the barrels!

Ihatebonfires Mon 04-Nov-13 12:00:04

Hello I have nn but im EasyMark.

Update:

The dogs have gone but the pub and barrles have stayed and now they are making a bonfire in an oil drum next to the chairs and beer kegs.

I have called South Yorkshire fire service and asked them to inspected as I have no idea if kegs are pressivieds and may explode if too hot!

So does anyone know what will happen if a fire is lite by the beer kegs? I mean less than five steps away?

Is anyone intrested in a "watch the silly pub owners have a bonfire and firework display 3 meters from my livingroom thread"?

Ihatebonfires Mon 04-Nov-13 12:03:57

They replaced the fence it blow down in the wind. Then they pit up the beet barrles to stop the guard dogs getting in my back yard and now they are having another bonfire as the SYFRS didnt stop them.

notapizzaeater Mon 04-Nov-13 12:06:46

Are these people mad, do they not learn ????

Ihatebonfires Mon 04-Nov-13 12:30:59

I think they might be a little slow on the up take that their yard is too small for a bonfire and fireworks but as the South Yorkshire fire and rescue service inspect and then let them go ahead I think who can blame them for trying!

So will the kegs explode and cause harm to my house and family?

All dh gets on fb is jokes about not liking warm beer hmm but I have a 5 year old child that can rember the heat in his bedroom from when the fence burnt down, I really dont want him to be scared in his own home due to their poor judgement. I cant even take them sway over night as he has school and footy training and needs to sleep!

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