Your best duvet choice? Tired of lumpiness and chills.

(84 Posts)
minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 21:55:05

Siberian goose down seems, by the price of it, to be the ultimate luxury..or silk filled..has anyone tried that?

I want to be happy in bed (!)

Details of light, warm, not sweltering success duvets required!

P.s. As for clipping together a winter duvet onto a summer duvet..I've tried it. It's too hard.

antimatter Sun 17-Aug-14 22:03:39

as I couldn't afford new goose down duves I bought us each (2 kids and me) used ones from ebay

the more % content of goose down the lighter and warmer is duvet IMHO

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 22:04:36

silk silk silk all the way, worth absolutely EVERY penny and I'd tried some expensive ones before that too.

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 22:05:31

Got mine from Soak & Sleep - you should be able to get a small discount off them somehow.

antimatter Sun 17-Aug-14 22:09:20

what makes silk better than goose down?

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 22:13:46

No idea but the "stuffing" does not move at all so no thin bits in the duvet and the whole thing is really lightweight.

Long time since I've had down or feathers as am allergic these days!

BornToFolk Sun 17-Aug-14 22:16:04

I love my wool duvet (actually two, poppered together) It's light and warm but never sweltering, even when I have them both in in winter. I had a cheap polyester one before and the difference is amazing. The wool one was not cheap but totally worth it for the improvement to my quality of sleep and I think it'll last a long time.

antimatter Sun 17-Aug-14 22:16:44

nothing moves in mine smile
I think that used to be a problem in olden days

Bunbaker Sun 17-Aug-14 22:19:27

I have been looking at duvets today. I had never come across wool or silk ones before. I don't want feather or down, so are silk/wool ones better than synthetic ones?

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 22:23:37

Ohhhhh, random mess, soak and sleep! Just looking there now, thankyou for sharing.

Lovely stuff.

They have a sale on. How do I Get the small discount?!

I made a rash choice to get a superking bed and although the space is great..it makes all bed linen that much more £££.

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 22:28:44

natural fibres are much better because they are breathable and better regulate your temperature.

Hmmm if they are already reduced then maybe not...

Certainly do a google for a discount.

We have a superking and went down the single duvet each route, it's ££££ but worth it!

Lilymaid Sun 17-Aug-14 22:31:02

We have a John Lewis Hungarian goose down combi duvet. We rarely need to use the warmer duvet as we live in a well insulated modern house. It is wonderful and isn't too hot in summer - unlike synthetic duvets.

Bunbaker Sun 17-Aug-14 22:33:47

We are getting a superking sized bed as well. I bought some fitted sheets from Dunelm yesterday and they weren't too £££.

Are two single duvets better than a superking one then?

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 22:36:56

Random mess, what tog did you get? Very sensible about the two single duvets, a SK duvet can be quite hefty.

Lilymaid you are lucky. I switch duvets, or import blankets when the weather changes, after years of clipping together duvets that shifted about lumpily inside the duvet cover.

feesh Sun 17-Aug-14 22:37:34

We had a White Company silk duvet on our super king bed until recently. The duvet was emperor size, as I am a firm believer in sizing up for duvets, but it was such a battle making the bed that we've given that up now and we have a single duvet each on the bed, which is actually a lot nicer.

The new singles are duck feather and down though, and I really miss the feel of silk (which was never too hot and never too cold, never got sweaty, and coped with mine and my husband's differing body temperatures admirably), so I am saving up for a couple of single silk duvets from Sleep and Soak instead.

The only downside to silk is that you don't get the same visual effect of a fluffy duvet that you get with a big, puffy high tog traditional duvet.

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Sun 17-Aug-14 22:39:16

Another vote for silk! We got one from john lewis a few years ago and it's amazing in summer or winter smile

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 22:41:54

We live in the SE in a small "warm" mid terrace house, we have the 4ish tog one all year around apart from in the summer when we are down to the duvet covers only!!! In winter I have had to sometimes had to wear pjs too so have invested in a 9ish tog one as we are moving up north and will no longer be living in a titchy modern mid terrace...

Love having single duvets - no more fights changing the duvet cover, no duvet cover trailing on the ground on the washing line, no more line of chill between you in the middle of the night, no more DH whipping it off me in his sleep as he turns over. We could even have a different tog each grin My plan is that I will have the 9 tog and he can have the 2 summer ones together!

Bunbaker Sun 17-Aug-14 22:44:05

We have spare single duvets and enough of DD's duvet covers to go round so we will try the bed with single duvets before getting a SK one. OH complains that I always end up with the duvet on my side of the bed anyway.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 17-Aug-14 22:45:46

Silk from Soak & Sleep here too. Cool in summer, warm in winter.

If you're going for goose down, please find out where it's sourced - many geese, especially from Hungary & China, are live-plucked: the feathers are ripped out, causing great pain and distress to the birds and their ripped skin is then roughly stitched with needle and thread so that they can be put through it all again when the down has grown back.

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 22:56:41

Thanks random mess. Good luck in your move up North. I hope it goes well.

I don't think my house is cold, particularly. It's a victorian terrace. Quite big windows in my bedroom though.

Please can you silk duvet people tell me about your tog decisions!

I can see I'm about to shell out megabucks, here! But, what price good sleep, eh!

Bunbaker Sun 17-Aug-14 22:58:41

I hope you didn't mind me hijacking the thread minkah.

I have been looking at the wool duvets on their website and they sound pretty good to me. I must admit that I have never heard of Soak and Sleep before, and I am glad you started this thread.

RandomMess Sun 17-Aug-14 23:01:28

I dithered about getting a wool 9 tog one - or perhaps I have done?? It's still sealed ready for moving up north grin

I recommend silk to my fussy friend and she is absolutely thrilled with it because it is so light yet warm/cool enough.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 17-Aug-14 23:03:55

I have the summer one, which does most of the year and also have the spring/autumn one for colder winter nights.

www.soakandsleep.com/luxury-pure-silk-duvet.html

If you're going to treat yourself, why not go the whole hog and get a silk pillow with lovely silk pillowcase - you'll thank me, I promise grin

o0 Sun 17-Aug-14 23:07:39

I have a silk duvet from John Lewis. I love it.

It doesn't have a tog rating really. Mine was an Autumn weight one. So suitable for spring, summer and autumn. But it's been fantastic over winter too. I'm talking about winter in Scotland with no heating on overnight.

I bought fancy goose down duvets for my DC and now I wish I'd saved up the extra for silk. Theirs are huge and puffy and I prefer the flat and lightweightedness of the silk.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 17-Aug-14 23:08:09

Bunbaker I've bern using S&S for years (it used to be Duvet & Pillow Warehouse) for all my bedding and towels. It's lovely stuff and £££s less than other places.

A family member recently bought a summer weight wool-filled duvet from there and that's lovely too. The silk and the wool ones are not 'puffy' like traditional duvets though (assomeone has mentioned upthread)

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 23:09:42

Bun baker, hijack all you want! It's good to share the info and hear experiences.

I'm thinking 9 tog sees you through most of the year, with a blanket or pj's for coldest times. And as for summer, well I don't know. By the time it comes round again maybe I'll be so hooked on silk I'll invest in a 4 tog one.

'Fussy'?! "Discerning" is the word, surely........

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 17-Aug-14 23:09:57

Off to bed now under my silk duvet with head resting on silk pillow - bliss!

o0 Sun 17-Aug-14 23:12:08

OMG at those Soak & Sleep prices!

I paid about £250 for my king sized one.

<cries>

Though I can now think about buying my DC's silk ones after all!

<happy>

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 23:12:36

Boreofwhabylon, I just saw your post.. You are fine most of the year with the lower tog rating one!

Scuppered, I am, to know what to do about togs.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 17-Aug-14 23:23:27

but I get v v hot in bed grin. I think you should go for autumn one and then see if you want a summer one for next year.

minkah Sun 17-Aug-14 23:37:58

Yes, ok! Thank you Bore!

(I'd like to say I get hot in bed but I just don't think it's true, unless I'm wearing a thick nightie.)

RandomMess Mon 18-Aug-14 06:41:46

Hmm I still like my plan - go for singles 2 x summer one and 1 autumn one, you get first pick wink

I cannot imagine having a 9 tog duvet on my bed at the moment!!!!

minkah Mon 18-Aug-14 07:39:40

Random mess, like your plan too, it's the most pragmatic.

I thought it too complex for me because I'd need to buy all new duvet covers.

But it does sound very appealing to have the choice all the time.

RandomMess Mon 18-Aug-14 07:41:42

Well new duvets call for new duvet covers!!!! You can still dress your bed by putting your current duvet covers over the top?

Personally egyptian cotton duver covers - yummy yummy yummy.

GalaxyInMyPants Mon 18-Aug-14 07:53:41

Will I like silk duvets? Or even wool ones?

I currently have a 20 year old synthetic duvet. I've tried various feather ones and even other synthetic ones but all current duvets the filling seems to move about inside the duvet which I hate.

I want it to be a solid, non moving, not too light, not too heavy, duvet.

minkah Mon 18-Aug-14 08:10:18

Buying duvet covers ..is it just me.. Or is it really enjoyable, kind of like buying shoes?!

I luuurve bed linen.

I've never had silk duvet cover. I could try it on a single to see if like!

delirious with excitement

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 18-Aug-14 08:13:36

I lurve it too! Have recently bought the seersucker one from S&S - 'tis lovely.

Have you ordered your duvet yet?

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 18-Aug-14 08:17:10

Galaxy yes, you will like silk duvets - the filling does not move and the whole thing drapes over you in a very satisfying way.

Bunbaker Mon 18-Aug-14 08:25:22

I love this thread. I love looking at bed linen (must get out more).

Apart from price, and obviously raw material, what other differences are there between wool and silk duvets. Would I be able to feel the difference?

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 18-Aug-14 08:29:50

Have never tried a wool one myself although family member has one. Why not ring S&S and ask - they are v helpful (and no, I don't work for them but am thinking I should grin )

iggymama Mon 18-Aug-14 11:11:40

I have an all seasons silk duvet but never use them joined together.

GalaxyInMyPants Mon 18-Aug-14 12:29:57

I can feel a trip to John Lewis coming on. I need to havea good feel bbefore I buy.

Tiptops Mon 18-Aug-14 17:57:46

Also curious about the differences between silk and wool duvets, if anyone has experience of either/ both?

Sorry for the thread hijack minkah!

RandomMess Mon 18-Aug-14 19:30:52

I'm really curious now about whether I got a wool autumn one, sadly I won't need to use it for a good few months to let you all know!

iggymama Tue 19-Aug-14 01:25:29

I had a wool one previous to buying silk. It was a cheap Fogarty wool duvet, was much nicer than the cheap synthetic ones I was used to but not as nice as my silk one. Possibly a more expensive wool duvet would be nicer but IMO the silk is best.

Oh and I have an alpaca wool filled duvet which cost loads but was too hot, I may try this again if we have a very cold winter but currently having the joy of night sweats so very glad of my light weight silk. 'Tis like sleeping beneath an angel's wing.

mipmop Tue 19-Aug-14 14:26:32

<joins the queue>

Any thoughts on mattress toppers? I got a new mattress this month and it feels great, but this thread is all about luxury...

RandomMess Tue 19-Aug-14 18:56:52

Oh I love my memory foam mattress topper but dh hates it as it's too warm and he sinks into it making it difficult to turn over confused he has a really thick padded cotton topper on top of his half!

Elvish Tue 19-Aug-14 21:32:47

Random, I have a 4tog silk duvet which we use all year round except when we drop down to just the cover - and we're in the North!

You may well manage with just your usual duvet up here, I sometimes have a throw over the top in the deep winter.

But of course if you've already got something a bit warmer there would be no need to return it! smile

RandomMess Thu 21-Aug-14 06:39:20

Elvish I'm from up north but having been down south in a particularly warm spot I have sadly become something of a southern softee shock I do on occasion have to wear my pjs in bed down here but I much prefer sleeping naked so new duvet here I com wink

Am busy packing to move house and found it yesterday but so far have resisted temptation to open the package and see which duvet I bought!!!

antimatter Thu 21-Aug-14 07:06:55

RandomMess - re: memory mattress, I got brand new bed and mattress for my dd, salesman advised to spend extra 50 pounds to get an extra layer of cooling jelly like part which is fitted between the memory topping and mattress

she said her mattress is never too warm

RandomMess Thu 21-Aug-14 07:14:02

Well I'm quite happy with my bed the way it is grin, nothing seems to stop DH sleeping anyway angry

All I need to have perfection is the bed and bedroom to myself...

RandomMess Thu 21-Aug-14 18:19:21

Soak & sleep - Spend £100+ over the bank hol weekend and get an extra 10% off with BANK10 discount code at the checkout - says ends Monday.

Rooners Sat 23-Aug-14 07:14:23

I hate to ask but isn't silk a bit unkind? Silk worms and so on.

I just bought a feather and down duvet from TKMaxx but it's a Heals one, so I hope it's good. Seems to be a two parter, ie 4.5 and 9 tog.

Together they are a duvet mountain, which I don't like, but I plan to use one in summer and one in winter.

Rooners Sat 23-Aug-14 07:15:01

and yes feathers are unkind too but at least the birds get eaten I suppose anyway. sad

I miss being a vegan.

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 07:19:53

Rooners I'm thinking what the birds go through is worse?

"If you're going for goose down, please find out where it's sourced - many geese, especially from Hungary & China, are live-plucked: the feathers are ripped out, causing great pain and distress to the birds and their ripped skin is then roughly stitched with needle and thread so that they can be put through it all again when the down has grown back."

YeGodsAndLittleFishes Sat 23-Aug-14 07:35:57

For various reasons we couldnt use wool, silk or down and so I went for John Lewis Soft Touch washable synthetic. They are great, they drape well and as we have the lowest togs, great through summer and we all have comforters (and electric blankets) for extra warmth in winter.

NewEraNewMindset Sat 23-Aug-14 07:46:04

We have a wool duvet and it is AMAZING. It adjusts it's temperature so you are cool in summer and snug in the Winter. Honestly can't say enough good about it. Not cheap but absolutely worth the money.

Rooners Sat 23-Aug-14 07:48:59

Oh bloody hell sad I forgot about that. I hope Heals source ethically. If not it's going back.

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 07:55:54

I think wool would be the most ethical option for you Rooners?

Rooners Sat 23-Aug-14 08:34:36

Yes I think you are probably right. I am such an idiot for not thinking of it. I think of it with coats.

I've emailed Heals asking them if they source ethically. It says they use a Hungarian supplier and that's the same as JL who do have a page explaining how ethical this supplier is and that he doesn't buy from China, or something like that.

Fingers crossed. Poor gooses.

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 08:59:58

TBH I hadn't even thought about it blush however any future purchases I think I've just been persuaded to go with wool!

Synthetic can't be ethical either as I'm sure large amounts of natural oil etc. get used in the process...

These look amazing! If I buy a silk duvet, what kind of cover goes on it?

BoreOfWhabylon Sat 23-Aug-14 10:36:14

I use the S&S cotton duvet covers, which are lovely (I should be getting commission from them!), as I can't really justify silk duvet cover - although I do have a silk pillowcase, which feels heavely and prevents morning crumpled-face syndrome.

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 13:35:19

I just pure egyptian cotton erm 200 thread count I think. We have 2 cats so no way would a risk silk!

minkah Sat 23-Aug-14 14:06:59

Huge thanks to random mess! I just ordered a silk duvet from s&s, at great bank holiday sale price.

Very very excited!!

Was freeeeeezing last night in bed, even in a flannel nightie!

I was on amazon at about 3am ordering bamboo sleep set. Apparently it's silky, temp regulating, non sweaty making, very soft.

Any and all of your favourite nightwear suggestions..please share. Nighties that don't look either old lady or come hither required.

Can't believe this chilly at night, and it's not even September! Grrr.

Thanks again random!

blodynmawr Sat 23-Aug-14 17:51:11

Oooh a bedding thread grin.
Agree with whoever said it's like buying shoes wink.
Am seriously tempted by the silk or wool duvets...
In terms of bedding I usually buy 300-400 thread count from John Lewis or Debenhams who have good and have good sales.
I love flannelette in the winter and last year got a good set from Next of all places, though cannot see them on the website yet this year.
Am coveting QVC flannelette this winter - anyone got any good recommendations for particular sets?
I have PJs from Boden mainly, some Laura Ashley. Best after a few washes when they become softer! smile
HTH smile

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 17:55:32

Yeah I'm wondering if I actually have 400 count thread...

I don't like wearing pjs in bed when I do I like slim fit stretchy things so I don't get knotted up in them grin

Besta Sat 23-Aug-14 18:02:07

Wool duvet = best thing ever. The one I bought from Soak and Sleep has a crinkly cotton cover which some people might not like though, but I love it, there's a satisfying quiet crinkle as you turn over.

Last year I overhauled all of our bed linen/bed stuff from S&S, we got wool duvets, mattress toppers, high thread count bed linen, towels, pillows - everything. Cost a fraction of high street prices and delivery was excellent.

We have the summer weight wool duvet, plus best quality feather mattress topper and even though I'm the coldest person alive, I don't need extra warmth in the winter. Maybe if we didn't use the mattress topper we would need an extra button on duvet in the winter.

Besta Sat 23-Aug-14 18:03:19

The bed linen was 600 count and tbh it's hard to iron...... but SO worth it. And it does need ironing, it looks awful when it's not ironed even for slatternly me

RandomMess Sat 23-Aug-14 18:12:40

Hmm I wash mine on the special low crease/no iron setting, empty the machine straight out when it's finished, fold it up in the basket and then hang on the line. This way is much kinder to the environment as it doesn't need ironing - I will avoide going up to a 600 count though wink

Fluffycloudland77 Sun 24-Aug-14 08:01:42

I'm glad someone else mentioned live plucking of birds. It's a disgrace that they can do that.

I've got a microfibre one that's sown in pockets, it's one size bigger than the bed & only cost me £23 in tk maxx.

I've got no sheets for it though so we are still under the white company ks one sad.

Rooners Tue 26-Aug-14 11:47:01

I've just had a massively thorough response from Heals confirming that they absolutely source ethically, complete with a detailed explanation of this and how they audit the process and so on. I can't even copy and paste here as it would take up half the page.

So I feel better about my duvet now.

Anyone got any info on ethical silk sourcing? grin

RandomMess Sun 31-Aug-14 09:09:43

I tired my wool 9 tog duvet last night for the first time. D I V I N E draps lovely and felt light still.

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 01-Sep-14 08:43:57

My latest S&S purchase is two of these silk throws. They are gorgeous - soft, warm and with a beautiful lustre. I've been cuddling up under them on the sofa on these chilly evenings and figure I'm saving £££s by not putting the heating on.

Now, fellow Beautiful Bedding Buddies (BBBs grin ), has anyone tried real linen bedding? S&S have some v reasonably priced French linen bedding and I am tempted - not least because, apparently, you don't have to iron it!

MY S&S wool duvet is due for delivery tomorrow - excited!

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 01-Sep-14 08:54:53

Squeeeee! grin

cirrusblue Mon 01-Sep-14 12:05:08

Whabylon I haven't got any experience of S and S stuff but I've got a Vintage Washed linen sheet and duvet covers from The White Company. It was very pricey but worth it. The make is pre-softened (I think that's what the 'Washed' means) and I never need to iron it. It is lovely and cosy in winter and cool in summer. I also got a cheaper linen John Lewis sheet from ebay. It was quite rough and hard in comparison but is gradually getting softer with washing.

minkah Mon 01-Sep-14 12:35:26

I am amazed by how fab the silk duvet is. A m a z e d!

It's so very much better than anything I've had before, even though I've paid tons for them.

Really really love it.

I kind of wish I'd bought a mulberry silk throw too... I just don't need it, but they look gorgeous.

cirrusblue Mon 01-Sep-14 14:29:13

I love my silk duvet too minkah. I bought a 3-4 tog which was great over the summer and now I will have to experiment with layering it with other things for the winter as a higher tog may be too heavy and I can't justify the expense of another. Currently have a light bedspread on top.

Biffabin Mon 01-Sep-14 15:46:11

I have silk too, love it. Mine's a 9 tog and is good year round.

Got mine from DAPW.

ellieclarke1 Fri 03-Oct-14 11:37:52

All the tog ratings confuse me!

The last one I bought was from thebeddingcompany.co.uk and was under £20 if I can remember right.

Worth a look smile

I like the sound of silk also - can any one recommend where you can buy these?

Siarie Fri 03-Oct-14 11:42:03

John Lewis Hungarian goose down range is excellent.

Sipsmith Sat 04-Oct-14 15:25:54

Thanks to this thread I've just purchased an S&S wool all seasons duvet.
I'm allergic to feathers and I'm fed up with synthetic fillings, so I've splashed out!
And they have 20% off this weekend.

I will report back, once it's arrived.

MillieV Sat 04-Oct-14 16:59:21

Another vote for S&S. Bought our mattress topper, pillows and duvet from them when they were called DAPW (Duvet and Pillow Warehouse). I agree "Soak & Sleep" does sound more catchy. smile

I am tempted to get a silk duvet for when we move… my aim is to create a hotel-like, luxurious master bedroom...

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