How do you deal with your washing?!

(242 Posts)
mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 14:40:41

I'm just curious what other people's laundry habits are. I never seem to see wet washing hanging at anyone else's house so I wondered what I was missing! Obviously when it's a glorious day you can hang it outside but if you don't have a utility room and its peeing it down what do you do? Do you tumble dry everything? (If I try this everything seems creased beyond repair) or do you just iron everything from wet? What other options are there? How often and when do you do your washing? I feel like such a novice at this house keeping malarkey! Thanks so much for any tips!

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 14:41:58

Ps I have a 1 year old and a 4 year old. We tend to wash our clothes after every wear and our bedding/towels every week. Is this really skanky??

Artandco Sun 29-Sep-13 14:44:32

I use a washer/dryer. All washing goes in on a wash ten dry cycle ( unless delicate), so all washing goes in dirty and comes out washer and dry 3 hrs later. Just take out straight away and shake.

We work in day so generally put wash on around 7pm and by 10pm it's finished and dry so just fold and put away. Only iron odd shirt. We do approx 3 loads a week

MinesAPintOfTea Sun 29-Sep-13 14:48:15

I wash every day (at home full time) and try to get it outside, have airers from ikea that I can lift in and out if it looks like rain, else it goes on the line.

We have a washer dryer but only use it during prolonged cold wet spells

MyDaydream Sun 29-Sep-13 14:50:14

I dry it on two clothes horses in the bathroom. I hang it up to dry in the evening and then take it down and fold it away before any guests arrive.

I wash clothes on Sunday (after DS club rugby training), Tuesday (after DS school rugby training) and whichever day looks best for drying clothes.
If someone is coming round and I have wet washing about, I hang it upstairs so they don't see itblush.
I have a dryer but don't use it much, even in NW England there are enough dry times to hang washing out if you're around to bring it in as the clouds gather.
If you fold stuff straight out of the dryer it doesn't crease.

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 14:58:02

Artandco, thanks for your reply. That's exactly what I'd love to do but when I try everything is completely crumpled up and there's no way I could just fold it - what am I doing wrong?

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 14:59:01

Thanks Mines for your reply!

PolterGoose Sun 29-Sep-13 14:59:58

3 loads shock

I am a bit washing obsessed. I have what seems like a really complicated routine but I don't iron.

I do one white wash a week, dp and ds shirts and polos, dried on line or in drier

Towels once a week, sometimes 2 loads worth as I don't like to overload the machine, dried on line or in drier

Bedding every 2 weeks, 2 loads worth, again dried on line or in drier

Clothes get separated depending on method of drying and whether delicate or not:

If going on line they get separated by person, hung on a section of line by person and then folded ready to go straight in drawers/wardrobe, keeping stuff in order of drawers eg trousers then tops then pyjamas then undies.

If not going on line I sort by each person and do a separate pile for stuff that can't go in drier. Depending on size of piles I do one load for hanging to dry on airer plus 1-3 loads of washing that can go in drier. Hand and tea towels get added to these washes.

I prefer to do several smaller loads (about 2/3 full) with a quick wash to stop creasing.

Really important to not tumble dry for too long and to fold immediately it's all dry, my drier has a refresh cycle which is handy when I've forgotten or left it on when I've gone out.

I probably do up to 12 loads a week for 3 of us.

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:00:14

Mydaydream, thank you. So do you do all your washing in the evening then? It would be so much easier not having to hang it outside with ds in the long wet grass!

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:01:08

Thanks inmysparetime, that's really helpful!

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:03:56

Thanks so much poltergoose, that sounds great!

I think I must be tumble drying for too long then as everything is super hot, dry and super creased. I have a 'straight to hanger' setting on the tumble drier which I've used and this happens sad

TwoStepsBeyond Sun 29-Sep-13 15:04:34

I have two over-the-bath airers which I use during the winter because my kids are filthy and only bath twice a week so it is the least used space in my house so anyone visiting wouldn't see washing out unless they used my skanky upstairs family bathroom.

I do a load a day most days, or sometimes I forget and have to catch up with several over the course of a day - easy in the summer, but not so much in winter. However, if there are lots of large items, bedding, towels etc, then I hang them over the bannisters and doors.

In the summer & indeed on a sunnyish, breezy day in the winter, I dry outdoors.

TwoStepsBeyond Sun 29-Sep-13 15:05:35

Oh and I never iron, just shake and swipe out the big creases. The breeze blows out the crinkles on out door washing and I figure the rest of the time it doesn't really matter as the DCs' clothes end up on their floor every evening anyway and I work at home.

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:23:43

Thanks everyone. It looks like what I'm doing wrong is having the tumble drier too hot, leaving the stuff in too long and overfilling it. Which beggars my next question smile how hit, how long and how many items for the tumble drier? Do you put any product in the drier to make the clothes less creased?

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:24:12

I'm loving the no iron idea - thanks twosteps smile

mollysmum82 Sun 29-Sep-13 15:24:35

*hot

BackforGood Sun 29-Sep-13 15:34:15

Er - I tumble dry quite a lot. The massive bonus of this is that it isn't creased, and can be hung up straight away without anything ever needing to be ironed. I have no idea what temperature it is, on mine there is only "normal" and "one dot" grin
It does work better if you don't have too much in there though - the way it dries is by throwing / blowing it around the big space inside the drum and if it's overfull then that can't happen.

We also only do sheets once a fortnight, and certainly don't wash everything after every wear. Yes to underwear, and quite often tops / shirts / blouses, but trousers, jeans, jumpers, etc can be worn multiple times. Just look at it first to see if it looks dirty, then, if it doesn't, you can smell it, and if it neither looks nor smells dirty, then it doesn't need washing. smile

I wash all my darks on a 30-40 & whites on a 60, and tumble dry most of the time as the weather is now changing, it's normally ready to hang up or put away.
Very rarely iron, and even then only the odd collars on school polo shirts and if i'm going out for the evening.

If i line dry it nearly always needs ironing..

MousyMouse Sun 29-Sep-13 15:53:59

two wash baskets (one for darks, one for lights). a wash goes on when basket full (=full load).
socks and sports stuff get their own wash with disinfectant (smelly stuff!).
tea towels and kitchen cloths are washed separately hot hot hot with only soda crystals (use towels to store bread so don't want them to smell).
bedding is a full wash anyway so that is done alternating weeks (1 week dh+mine other dc bedding).

Jan49 Sun 29-Sep-13 17:17:51

Me and adult son here. I do a wash load every other day or so, basically whenever there's space to dry more and I have time. It goes straight from the machine to the clothes airer unless the weather is good enough to use the washing line. The clothes airer is in the dining room. When it's nearly dry I fold it all and put it in a pile on a chair next to a radiator in the living room as we have no airing cupboard. When it's ready to put away, I put away my own and general stuff and put my son's stuff in a pile in his bedroom for him to put away. If I've got guests I try to time the washing so there isn't any hanging up.

I don't own a tumble dryer and I only iron things that really need it. We each have a wash bin in our bedrooms and there's a washing basket on the landing for sheets, towels and hand washing. Underwear and tops get changed daily, everything else less often.

Vivacia Sun 29-Sep-13 17:46:24

We do a load every day or so too. I'm surprised that you wash everything after only one wear. We only do this with underwear, adults' tops and anything filthy. So jumpers, hoodies, jeans etc might be worn about three times before a wash. Clothes for outside (gardening, dog walking etc) get worn for a whole week probably.

delasi Sun 29-Sep-13 18:46:55

We have an old vented dryer, only takes a small-ish load (about 3kg), and has 2 settings: hot and warm (I think) - I use hot.

I usually have a wash day - there's at least one day a week where I'm not planning on going out during the day, I like to have some time pottering around each week! So I load the machine in the morning and do 2-3 loads - clothes from the week just gone, plus towels and bed linen.

Each load tends to get split for drying - basics and linen in the dryer, delicates on the airer, skirts/shirts/dresses go on hangers to dry. The airer and hanging stuff is just in our hall - we live in a small flat and have no outside space. Almost always have windows open during the day though.

The airer and hanger clothes dry quite quickly, I think as they're all quite light things and spread out, and the dryer takes 40mins-1hr per load (last 10mins is cooling). If I start in the morning around 9am I am usually done with all the washes and drying some time in the afternoon - about 4pm? I don't tend to watch the time too carefully as I'm at home doing other things and just put things to wash/dry once I realise the last lot has been done.

We only iron when a shirt or skirt/dress looks creased. Drying on hangers has largely eliminated the need for ironing.

No one ever sees washing in my house but that's just because they're never here on wash day!

Starbuck100 Sun 29-Sep-13 19:00:26

I'm finding this thread fascinating. We just moved here from the U.S. and I had to actually get online a couple months ago to figure out British laundry detergent. I never hang wash ... should I be? I'm adjusting to a washer and a dryer that are about 1/2 the size of my old ones. The cycles also last 1 to 1.5 hours longer than mine in the States (and it was a very basic washer). I wash between 1 and 3 loads every day, 5-6 days every week. I'm beginning to feel like I'm an obsessive washer ... and I do iron most things. I can't imagine how much longer I'd be dealing with laundry if I also hung them outside and had to battle the weather. Yikes. smile

ChipAndSpud Sun 29-Sep-13 19:12:16

I usually do about 5 washes a week, whites x 1 darks/colours x 2, towels x 1 and bedding x 1.

I hang everything on the washing line outside in all weathers except rain, although if the washing gets rained on and then dries I don't mind, it smells nicer! If it's damp weather or I've got another load to go out, I bring the washing in and hang it on the clothes airer to finish off drying overnight.

I would like to get a tumble dryer, but we don't have space at the moment. When we move I will be investing in a tumble dryer!

buildingmycorestrength Mon 30-Sep-13 09:18:29

Starbuck washing is infinitely quicker in North America. Massive toploaders that seem to finish a load in 25 minutes. shock. I don't understand why we can't have them here.

I still seem to spend a weird amount of time dealing with washing even though I have recently adopted a new policy of 'don't wash it til it's dirty'. Recommended, OP!

MrsBucketxx Mon 30-Sep-13 09:22:27

I wash daiky and hang out outside or on an airer in the airing cupboard, I wish I could afford to use a dryer, but I cant.

I iron once a week or when the pile starts falling over.

YoureBeingADick Mon 30-Sep-13 09:25:26

I wash everyday (normal washing plus im clearing a backlog after letting things slide for a while)

On good days i hang out

On rainy days i hang in an airer in the hotpress (airing cupboard) where i have the dehumidifier. Takes 12 hours to dry 1 8kg washload.

I dont have a (working) tumble dryer any more but when i gave stuff a really good shake as soon as it finished and fold everything straight away.

I dont iron unless for a wedding/job interview etc.

Saminthemiddle Mon 30-Sep-13 09:41:16

I try and do a load everyday (4 of us). We have a small utility room and I can dry everything in there, but use the line outside on nice days but only for sheets and towels as can't be bothered for smaller things smile
Then when everything is dry, I put in it my tumble drier (except DH's work shirts and delicate stuff). After about 5 mins, start taking out T shirts etc one at a time and fold immediately when it is still warm. Nothing ever needs ironing plus it is very soft from the heat and Aldi's softener which I have found is the best.
Can't believe that I wrote all that....reading it back I look very organised but I'm not smile

NewBlueShoesToo Mon 30-Sep-13 09:51:19

Far too much washing here, toddler plus sporty children, towels, beds.If I ever move house I plan to have two washing machines. I do love the timer on mine so that washing can start at 6am

AllDirections Mon 30-Sep-13 10:01:08

I do 7-10 loads a week. In summer I hang washing out and in winter I put washing on the radiators and I use a clothes airer on the landing.

Towels once a week, hand towels, tea towels and dishcloths every day and bedding every 2 weeks. DD3 wears a completely clean set of clothes every day.

Fairylea Mon 30-Sep-13 10:10:00

I wash tons. I can't stand it building up, probably a phobic reaction to when my washing machine broke down once and I had to wait two weeks for a new one... horrendous.

I use aldi washing powder as its so cheap and works brilliantly. I was most things on a 40 degree wash, except bedding and towels they go on a 60 or 90 degree wash.

I tumble everything. I love my dryer! I never iron and just shake n fold!

stubbornstains Mon 30-Sep-13 10:17:26

Well. I've had no washing machine for about 2 months, and there is no space in my tiny house for a tumble dryer. And it has been mizzling ceaselessly for about a month here.

So....I'll do a wash in the bathtub 2/3 times a week. Can't wring it out as well as a spin cycle on the washing machine. Then it will sit on the line for frigging days not drying. Then I'll try hanging it up inside, but it won't dry because the heating's not on yet.

There's a huge backlog because I'm always waiting for the last load to dry before I wash the next one, and it just isn't happening at the moment.

(medieval emoticon)

On the plus side, I do have a new (reconditioned) washing machine arriving dreckly....

Lottie4 Mon 30-Sep-13 10:32:20

I've never had a tumble dryer and haven't really got room for one, so that's not an option. I do my washing first thing in the morning and unless it's raining or below 5c, it goes out for the day. If it needs to be in because of bad weather or hasn't tried, then it's on the airer and a couple of radiator airers I have. The main airer is kept in our living room as that's the warmest room in the house, but if I'm expecting visitors then I actually move it into our bedroom - bit of a pain carrying it upstairs though.

ivykaty44 Mon 30-Sep-13 10:34:06

There are four of us usually, I wash mostly every day and as I don't have a tumble drier I hang out washing either on line outside or I have an undercover area at back of house so I hang there, use the undercover area more in winter.

I do put washing on airier and pop outside then bring in at night, I find this washing will dry of mostly outside and just air in the house.

I only iron a few things, most washing is folded and put straight away. We do have a lot of gym and sports wear that can't be ironed which is great, but needs sixty degree wash to get clean

VeganCow Mon 30-Sep-13 10:36:02

I line dry all year round as long as its not raining. Even in December if its dry weather, the clothes will partially dry. I then bring in and finish off on indoor airers or over the radiators if the heating is on and its smallish stuff like tshirts/shirts.
I don't iron anything, if its been on the line it doesn't need it, just rub the peg marks away grin and I make sure if stuff's going on the airer or radiator, it is smoothed out first or folded and it dries crease-free.
I think the reason my stuff never needs ironing is that I don't over fill the washer. I do have a larger 7kg one though.

higgle Mon 30-Sep-13 10:38:13

I tend to do a smallish wash most days, with big washes of towels and bed linen at weekends. I seldom hang my stuff up outside. We have a long bannister at the top of the stairs and nice stuff gets hung over that and is ironing dry if left overnight. I tumble dry the rest.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Mon 30-Sep-13 10:38:38

I don't use a tumble drier so everything goes outside to dry, or upstairs on airers (does anyone say 'clothes horse' anymore? smile) My machine has a timer and I use that to good effect at weekends, but could do with getting into that more on weekdays - too often I end up doing a load at 9pm and then wearily putting it on radiators etc as I go to bed, whereas if I used the timer I could do that at 6pm.

I'm hopeless with our laundry - just thought I'd post to show not everyone is a domestic goddess!
We have a laundry basket on landing for essentials, otherwise everyone puts own stuff on (have teens/pre-teens now)
We put everything on same cycle, except recently I've started doing the occasional semi-white wash for DCs school shirts and fill up with other white stuff like some of our towels
Then I tend to put it in the tumble dryer, comes out looking fine, only iron on very special occasions.
People retrieve own clothes from utility room/conservatory and put away as desired!
I am aware that this isn't so great for the environment (regarding reliance on tumble dryer) so we do try and hang some things on the line during the summer months.
Socks are an on-going nightmare! I'm always buying new ones.

I live in a flat, i the summer is fine, put it on the balcony, winter is difficult, we have no dryer, so washing hangs everywhere. I have two teenagers who are responsible for their own washing, i will do it if they put it in the washing basket, the never do so leave it up to them, then they are have loads and its everywhere. Towels and sheets get washed once a week. I don't wash things like jeans or jumpers after one wear unless they smell or are stained. I log for a dryer or one of those heated dryers for the winter.

FionaJT Mon 30-Sep-13 11:08:37

My routine is pretty much exactly as Lottie4 has described, except for the carrying upstairs bit as I live in a flat!

I certainly put shirts and school polo shirts in dryer for 5 mins just to get rid of the creases and avoid ironing
I like the idea of drying on line and finishing off in dryer - would that work well with say towels - I find they're too dry and hard if just dried outside on the line ?

ivykaty44 Mon 30-Sep-13 11:33:21

If I let everyone do there own washing then there would be piles of dirty and they would wash one or two items at a time meaning large bills

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 11:35:03

Family of 5. I do 2 washes per day both quick ones on 30 for tshirt s school stuff etc. one load goes on line first thing in the morning and one load goes on the airer indoors. At tea time I either finish off in dryer or just fold if its dry already. No ironing except I do shirt for work for the next day. This routine takes about 10 minutes twice a day.

Towels, bedding and manky sports kit done on hotter washes on a Saturday then on line and airer til Sunday or til dry.

Use ultra cheap powder from a value or basics range, plus a nice smelling fabric softener just cos I like the smell!

Shake out and hang carefully and don't overload your washer or dryer and there's practically no ironing.

I do obsessively watch the weather forecast though so I can maximise outside drying time to save on energy bills!

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 11:40:14

Agree with ivy that its cheaper and more efficient if I organise the washing...I combine loads so that the washer is on efficiently (and hideous piles of moulding sports kit doesn't build up).

And def only wash stuff that's dirty...I check DS1 stuff before it goes in as he puts clean stuff back in the basket when he is 'tidying up'. I just refold and return. Also sometimes spot clean things that don't need an entire wash.

And even worse, sometimes frebreze things and hang them up for a bit of airing then give them back eg a clean tshirt unworn but left in a school bag for a day or two that has been deemed dirty by its owner.

giraffeseatpineapples Mon 30-Sep-13 11:40:21

Alldirections do you do a seperate was every day for the teatowels etc or in with normal clothes?

No tumble dryer here. i line dry at mo sometimes finsih the drying process by ironing. Cant wait for radiators to go on [sado emoticon] !

ThreeBecameFour Mon 30-Sep-13 11:45:38

Laundry in our house is as follows: Usually 1-2 washes a day (depending on what carnage the kids have created) for a family of 4 (2 adults, 2 year old and 6 week old)

We have 2 large airers and a tumble dryer. If weather is bad the wash goes in tumble drier. Non tumble dry items onto airers or large items onto aierers to try to cut down on cost of using tumble drier. If weather good (i.e. summer) then outside to dry on line or on airers. Dresses/shirts etc go straight onto hangers to dry to try do elminate creases so we don't have to iron unless necessary. No ironing in this house unless we have to be smart for work or going somewhere which requires us looking less creased. Airers are upstairs so if we have people over we have space and they don't have to put up with it.

Sheets/towels etc get washed once a week. Jeans etc definitely get lots of wear - not everything gets washed after one wear. However as I am covered in baby sick and poo etc at the moment there can be some fallout to the washer from that on more than one occasion a day wink

We just invested in the tumble drier and I love it. Makes clothes smell nicer - more clean clothes smell smile and really helps with all the small clothes being ready when we need them. That and the house not looking like a chinese laundry wink!

Passthecake30 Mon 30-Sep-13 11:50:12

4 of us, I do a load every day, usually alternating between lights and darks. That way I can usually get it dry without building up.

In the summer I hang out. In the winter I tumble towels, flannels, t towels and put the rest it in the kitchen overnight in front of a dehumidifier. I don't tumble clothes as they shrink/ go square and we are all long and slim here and can't afford to lose the length in our clothes!

I iron, 30 mins once a week. Dp is a builder so I don't iron his work clothes!

eggybrokenoff Mon 30-Sep-13 11:52:53

how is everyone who dries on airers actually getting stuff dry? at the mo it is too dmap to hang outside but too warm for heating so stuff on airers takes days to dry and smells damp. i am really missing the hot summer!

ChildrensStoriesNet Mon 30-Sep-13 11:53:24

We are lucky enough to have solar panels so we set the washing machine to run on a timer at mid day when we have ample free electricity.

Drying is on two airer frames in our attic room, lots of warmth from the sun most days, dead of winter it's sometimes on the radiators.

We try hard not to use any energy that we have to pay for (a tumble dryer is out - wears the clothes out early also)

herbaceous Mon 30-Sep-13 11:59:40

I'm always bemused by people who do one or two loads A DAY. There's three of us, and we'll do three or four loads a week. And I'd do less, only DS's school uniform (he's only just started) needs washing after each wear, so I have to scrabble about looking for suitably coloured other items to wash.

Mind you, I save up sheets and towels and take them to the laundrette once a month for a service wash. £12, and they come back boil-washed, tumble-dried and folded up. Money well spent!

MinesAPintOfTea Mon 30-Sep-13 11:59:46

eggy: they go outside whenever its not raining and come into the kitchen when it is. If I've got the oven on then the kitchen gets quite warm and helps dry out (with the extractor fan on).

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 12:01:24

Put airer in conservatory (posh name for our big back porch!). It's the warmest place in the house. Don't overload airer and make sure that each item hangs over two or more rails so that air can circulate, or peg onto it like a line. Hang shirts on hangers and put in doorways upstairs. Not bothered if people think house looks like a laundry! five people live here, of course there will some evidence of them!

ChildrensStoriesNet Mon 30-Sep-13 12:02:42

re: eggybrokenoff Mon 30-Sep-13 11:52:53

"how is everyone who dries on airers actually getting stuff dry?"

We have the odd day like this, we spread the washing thinly to help it dry and use a blow heater / fan, but no heat, just the fan for a flow of air, they dry much quicker.

In our case it helps that we are south facing and the sun even when overcast like today still helps a bit.

AllDirections Mon 30-Sep-13 12:03:16

giraffeseatpineapples I put everything in together.

eggybrokenoff It's annoying isn't it. The heavy stuff like jeans and towels HAVE to either go outside or on the radiators when they're on but I do get annoyed when I have to put the heating on for an hour just to dry the clothes. But then it's more annoying to have to rewash clothes because they smell.

NonnoMum Mon 30-Sep-13 12:04:40

I dry outside but if the weather looks bad, I dry at the launderette. Takes 20 mins and I get to read a book.

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 12:04:52

Herb because doing half loads on a low temp gets stuff cleaner than a full load on a high temp (IMHO) and half loads are easier to dry on line or airer. So I'd rather do 2 quick washes a day, sort of the same as doing the dishwasher. But there are 5 of us, and 2 of those are sporty teens so do generate a lot of kit, towels, swimsuits, dance gear etc

TheHattifattenersBarometer Mon 30-Sep-13 12:07:43

I sometimes do two loads a day herbaceous, I have x3 DC's though and one of them is loo training so if trousers have wee on they need washing asap, same with p.j's covered in porridge.

Everything that can get tumble dried goes in the dryer the rest goes on the clothes horse next to the dehumidifier where it drys quite quickly.

Stuff only get gets ironed on special occasions so I can get things put back in the wardrobes quickly.

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 12:08:22

Eggy you can put jeans and towels on hangers in doorways if you have some of those ones squeezy clips on each end, like skirts/trousers are on in a shop. Just clip the back so the jeans so that the fly area falls open and the air can circulate.

MinesAPintOfTea Mon 30-Sep-13 12:13:37

Herb I wash most days. DS is a toddler so needs at least one change of clothes+pjs a day. I wash my clothes more often than I used to because now I'm liable to get covered in sticky handprints and DH cycles to work so gets clothes wet/muddy (he cycles on an off-road track) quite often.

Throw in needing to wash towels and bedding every week (another 2 washes) and I need to do 6-7 washes a week. I'm at home and its easier to do a wash every day than try to get 3 done in one day.

Snowgirl1 Mon 30-Sep-13 12:24:10

We don't have a tumble dryer, so just dry stuff on a couple of airers in the spare room (and towels get hung over the bannister on the landing) so that no visitors see it!

buildingmycorestrength Mon 30-Sep-13 12:27:09

I have four airers, all upstairs where it is warmer. One in our bedroom, that usually holds clothes that have been worn but need airing, one in the bathroom (which gets heated whenever the hot water goes on) and two flat ones that I spread out along the hallway.

I open the windows upstairs every day to let out damp.

I rarely line dry if the weather is a bit iffy or chilly as I canNOT be doing with hanging washing twice.

Sheets and towels get tumble dried, and clothes if my husband is on washing duty (which I try to avoid).

ouryve Mon 30-Sep-13 12:31:35

Washer dryer here, too. Will hang stuff out on an airer by the back door until almost dry on a warm, dry day, but use the dryer to finish it off, soften it up a bit and take care of most of the creases. I get through 9-12 wash loads a week, so can't be hanging it around the house on the default wet days because of space and damp issues (and it dries hard with our water).

ouryve Mon 30-Sep-13 12:37:50

The secret to the tumble dryer taking out rather than putting in creases is small loads, btw. Even though I could do it in 2, I divide a 6-7kg wash load into 3 smaller dry loads, so it dries more evenly and doesn't crush itself.

pannetone Mon 30-Sep-13 12:39:19

Think you should have a link to this thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1855924-Lakeland-heated-dryer-question?pg=1

I have one and it is ace! It only just fits into our bedroom (which is compact) but certainly earns its floor space. I think opinions on the thread vary,but for the best drying results I am in the 'cover it' camp and find a cheap fitted king size sheet makes the perfect cover.

ouryve Mon 30-Sep-13 12:40:24

building - one of the main reasons we don't have such big washers here is that most people have a 9' square kitchen to cram their washer into, if they're lucky.

Queenmarigold Mon 30-Sep-13 12:43:33

I do 2-3 loads a day- 5 people in this house, four of them very messy! I do towels and beds every other week, it's too much otherwise. I partly tumble dry then hang out to save money. I really wish I had a massive, fast American washer and dryer. It would be worth the space! I suspect however there are some eu laws in energy ratings which prohibit them for eu sales plus the cost of running them would be huge.

Kaekae Mon 30-Sep-13 12:46:26

I sort mine into whites, pinks, darks, etc and delicates. I wash then place most things on an airer in the utility room. Socks and underwear in the tumble dryer. When the towels on the airer are almost dry I bung them in the drier to finish them off. In the summer I like to put my whites on the washing line, bleaches out any stains and whitens them up a bit, but I am not keen on washing hung on the line, makes it all hard and it smells weatheryhmm.

PaleHousewifeOfCumbriaCounty Mon 30-Sep-13 12:47:21

Five people here. One messy baby, one office based husband, two school uniform wearers and me.
One wash a day, two if theres towels/swimming gear/bedding to do. No tumble dryer. Dry outside if at all possible, but always something drying inside on the rack. Will use heaters soon too.
I like things ironed!

Passthecake30 Mon 30-Sep-13 12:58:05

Hate hanging stuff on airers only to start stinking of damp...I put piles of undies on the boiler tank and the the dehumidifier is my best friend!

HesterShaw Mon 30-Sep-13 13:02:48

No tumble drier or radiators here! When it's damp out, I hang it in the kitchen, which is in a sort of conservatory. When it's freezing in there in the winter, I rig up a washing line in one end of the lounge for the big stuff like sheets and towels, and have a clothes horse. A dehimidifier works well - it can get about a litre of water out of the air in a day.

MrsMarigold Mon 30-Sep-13 13:04:11

I wash according to colours - usually a minimum of two loads a day, our washer drier broker so we just use a washing machine now. There are four of us, me, DH, DS aged 2 and DD aged 1. In an ideal world I would do towels and linen once a week but end up doing them more regularly. DD inevitably pees on her towel. DS wees a lot in the night and his PJs and bedlinen is wet every day so they get washed almost daily. Plus DH cycles to work every day and his cycling gear is very smelly. I have very leaky boobs so that often necessitates an extra change of clothes. Also despite triple bibbing the DC always get food on their clothes and mine.

I dry it upstairs in the utility room with the window open wide and a heated clothes horse plus two regular clothes horses.

Another question if DC wet the bed or vomit do you also wash the mattress protector? I do so that's extra. Also stupidly I bought really expensive organic cotton and wool mattress protectors so they take ages to dry!

minipie Mon 30-Sep-13 13:55:11

2 adults and a baby. We do about 3 clothes loads a week, plus one bedding and one towels. nothing is tumble dried, I would like to tumble dry towels but DH likes them crispy thinks it's wasteful. very little is ironed, just DH's shirts and the odd pair of trousers. maybe this is why dd and I look a mess <penny drops>

we hang everything on airers in the spare room, if it takes a long time to dry we just have to wait... but we have enough basics like bedding and underwear that it's not usually a problem to wait.

minipie Mon 30-Sep-13 13:59:35

oh I'm also pretty lax about re wearing clothes - eg DD's sleepsuit can be worn for 2 or 3 nights if she hasn't got it grubby, and I don't wash jeans or jumpers until they are visibly grubby or smell.

this doesn't sound good does it blush

herbaceous Mon 30-Sep-13 14:08:00

Ooh good, minipie. You sound just like me. I only wash clothes when they're actually dirty, which I claim helps preserve their life and is easier on the planet, but is also because I can't be bothered. The only things that get ironed are DP's work shirts, and he does them himself.

Life's too short.

PedantMarina Mon 30-Sep-13 14:10:53

We hang things on those racks that clip onto the radiators, and on hangers up in our windows, in our bedroom only. In theory we have a line outside, but it's a PITA to get to from our upstairs flat so we don't usually bother.

Depending on what time of year you'd be visiting us, the washing mighn't be up anyway. If the heaters are on, it take not a lot of time at all (usually overnight) - in autumn and spring, maybe longer.

Londonista Mon 30-Sep-13 14:16:50

I do loads of laundry - potty training number 2 son and sport mad husband. My 3 steps to success are:
- Buy the largest capacity you can - we have an 8kg which I would marry if I could
- Use Colour Catchers so you don't have to piss about with separating colours (although I do tend to always save whites for a load)
- If you're going to tumble dry everything (which I do), use dryer balls (shortens time needed to dry clothes and no wrinkles) and don't over fill the dryer otherwise you will be ironing everything.

Oh and we mostly do everything at 30 degrees, except bath towels and clothes with wee/poo/vomit on.... say no more!

minipie Mon 30-Sep-13 14:25:09

<hugs herbaceous>

<furtively checks armpits of cardi for whiffiness>

Thatsnotmyfigure Mon 30-Sep-13 14:26:14

I second the Colour Catcher/ dye Grabber from Lakeland! Can wash whites and colours together with no greying ever!
http://www.lakeland.co.uk/20647/Color-Grabber

NationalCervix Mon 30-Sep-13 14:31:47

5 in our house, me, DP and 3 DCs.

We do all the laundry on a Sunday. Tumble dry everything blush

I never iron. Actually I think there's a spider living on the ironing board, it gets used that little!

BeCool Mon 30-Sep-13 14:37:38

I have a 5yo & a 2yo.
We have no outside space and no tumble dryer.

I check only dirty clothes go into the washing basket - sounds obvious but 5yo will throw everything she touches in there, so I am training her.

I dry on a rack indoors, usually in the living room sad or in the bath depending on timing - in the summer I hang up at night and it's ready to put away the next day. Same for in the winter when the heating is on.

It's tricky at the moment as the days are cooler but the heating isn't on yet so it's taking longer to dry. And I start to think about buying one of [[ http://www.lakeland.co.uk/21736/Dry-Soon-3-Tier-Heated-Tower-Airer THESE]]. I think the same thoughts every year but I'm yet to buy one.

We get by.

herbaceous Mon 30-Sep-13 14:38:00

I do find myself doing the 'armpit check' on clothes that have been on the 'worn' chair for a while... But only while no-one is looking.

BeCool Mon 30-Sep-13 14:39:53

gosh first ever link fail and I previewed too!!!

lakeland Heated Airer

Katienana Mon 30-Sep-13 14:56:18

I do several loads a week, sometimes 2 a day but never more than that as I would never get everything dry. I live in a flat and there is no space for a tumbler. This summer we got a washing line and it has made things so much easier! Hope to get another month's use out of it before wet washing freezes on the line! We also have a Dri-Buddi which folds down when not in use - it has a fan and a nylon type cover so you hang clothes on hangers over the arms, zip the cover over and switch it on. It can dry a full load of baby washing/half load of adult washing in about 3 hours. Other than that, we dry over the radiators through the winter. Clothes dry very fast but it does create excess moisture in the air and thus mould! Especially last winter when we had our ds, and the washing pile increased exponentially (at least 2 changes a day for baby, extra bedding, baby wee/poo/sick getting on our bed or our clothes!) My mum is now looking after ds every week so she is going to start taking some of my bulky washing away with her.

naturelover Mon 30-Sep-13 16:11:20

I do a load of washing most days. There are four of us. Clothes only get washed if they're dirty, not after one wear if they are ok.

Most things get washed at 30C.

I don't have a tumble drier, and so I dry outside if the weather permits. Otherwise I have a tall square drying rack on my upstairs landing and I can hang up to two loads on it (Argos). Yes I have washing hanging up every single day but as it's upstairs it doesn't feel too intrusive, and the floorspace it takes up is minimal. Things usually dry in less than 24 hours so once a day I swap everything around. I iron twice a week to keep on top of things.

I have a system that works well yet it feels absolutely relentless. I guess it's the same for everyone.

78bunion Mon 30-Sep-13 16:52:40

We have had loads over the years (5 children). Washer on every day for last 20 years at least one load.
We do have a drier which helped when we had 3 in cloth nappies at once.
If you came in our house even now with older chidlren you'd see radiators with clothes over adn 2 clothes horses always with clothse over but in utility room as after 15 years we could afford a house with a utility room. Also towels hanging over some doors to dry when drying space is not available. Outside clothes thing too but that depends on weather.

Also I suspect we do not change clothes as much as other people (although we don't smell).

flatmum Mon 30-Sep-13 17:00:59

We are a family of 5 and I save it all up til the weekend while I am working - stuff just gets added to one of 4 laundry baskets about the house to keep it out of the way. Then over the weekend I dump all 4 baskets onto the utility room floor, shutting the door when I leave so no one sees it all smile, and then do about 5 or 6 washes over the weekend, ususally including bedding, towels and bathroom mats. I have a bit of a production line going. Have the iron and ironing boeard up in there all weekend so stuff goes into the washing machine, staright into the tumble drier, another wash goes on, I try and catch the tumble drier just before it ends and hang stuff up and fold stuff. Then anything that needs ironed I try and iron as I am going past (but there is always a basket of ironing in there).

Having a utility room and a drier massively helps of course - I don't think it would be workable for our family without a drier - I am often drying stuff for bedtime just at the last moment (bedding, favourite blankets, cuddly toys etc)

giraffeseatpineapples Mon 30-Sep-13 17:13:28

One problem we have is where to keep the childrens worn but not dirty clothes. I have 2 young dds in a room slightly bigger than a box room - and 1 ds in a single room so there is def no room for an airer or even really a chair to put things on. We also have a tiny bath room so they keep their towels on the radiator in their rooms. (My dd will save her pjs for instance but a proper bed making session can reveal 5 pairs of PJS under her pillow!) She also has a habit of tidying by stuffing worn clothes down the back of her bunk bed (cant imagine where she gets her slovenly habits from ;) )

SquidgyMummy Mon 30-Sep-13 17:16:29

We have a tumble dryer, but i have used it a handful of times since DS was born (he is 3).
We live in france, so weather is better and am a sahm so can keep and eye on the weather, so bring in stuff from the line when rain looks imminent. biggest saver is the verandah, we had one at old house and DP has almost finished the one here, so i will leave washing out under it for a couple of days to "wind dry" even if not sunny

flatmum Mon 30-Sep-13 17:26:36

We have an "on the go" basket at the top of each dc's wardrobe which slides out (ikea stuva - dont take up much space) and the theory is anything worn once but not needing a wash goes in there to be used next time. This works reasonably well but they like to select a different one each time so I do sometimes have to clear a massive pile of stuff out of them - but at least it keeps it off the floor)

ringaringarosy Mon 30-Sep-13 17:42:11

i have 5 kids and no tumble dryer,i do at least 3 loads a day,we use cloth nappies and wipes,theres bed accidents quite often too,sheets are changed once a week at least,more if their weed on obviously!towels are washed after ever use as are clothes,to keep on tp of everything i would have to do at least 4 or 5 loads a day,i dont ever have an empty laundry basket.i hang it outside if i can but i have airers too,2 big ones,i also hang on radiators etc if i really have to,am thinking about getting a tumble dryer soon actually once the weather gets bad.

mrsyattering Mon 30-Sep-13 17:54:21

I never iron, and have just recently got on top of mine, a load every other day either dry out or tumble dried depending on weather. Pegged out in who's clothes they belong to order on line. Taken in folded and put straight away. I have lost that feeling of living in a laundry!
I don't have room for clothes airer so, in winter I tumble dry alot blush

MousyMouse Mon 30-Sep-13 18:38:45

giraffes my dc have a squidy gardening type basket which goes under their beds.
all clothes that can be worn again live in there.

scarlotti Mon 30-Sep-13 19:22:21

I tend to save it all for the weekend as work full time in the week, but we too wear stuff a fair bit before washing!

Am curious, do those that use the 30min quick wash setting find it cleans enough? Do you use less washing powder then?

IdaClair Mon 30-Sep-13 19:26:50

I have a washing room. I suppose it could be called a utility room, but it's a room with a washing machine, dryer, drying space and work surface, so I'm calling it the washing room.

I've only just got it, after years of living in a shoebox with no drying space and a tiny kitchen, so sometimes I just go in there in the evenings and stroke the walls lovingly grin

giraffeseatpineapples Mon 30-Sep-13 20:12:21

Not sure why I never thought of a basket for their clothes - will look for something similar thanks

giraffeseatpineapples Mon 30-Sep-13 20:19:33
mewkins Mon 30-Sep-13 20:23:40

I don't have a tumbledrier. I live for the summer when I can wash and dry a load or two in a day! We have a large clothes airer and bannisters etc which will hold a full load for winter time. I leave the window in that room open so it doesn't get too humid. I only iron shirts and my own tops - everything els goe in airing cupboard then back to wardrobes.

girliefriend Mon 30-Sep-13 20:36:40

I wash probably every other day (only me and dd) dd rarely wears something twice so most of washing is hers!!

I also wonder what other people do with their washing but mine either goes on the line outside (I actually enjoy hanging washing outside blush ) or on a airer in my bedroom, I also hang some clothes from doorframe on hangers and if weather is bad bedding gets dried hung over doors!!

I don't like tumble driers - I got rid of mine and brought a dishwasher instead grin

ShoeWhore Mon 30-Sep-13 20:56:57

5 of us here including 3 active boys so tons of washing. I have quite a little routine going re the washing. blush It works for me although it still feels relentless!

Monday - wash clothes: a load each of darks, colours, whites.
Tuesday - wash bedding (alternate between ours and dc's)
Wednesday - towels
Thursday - delicates/hand wash stuff
Friday - school uniform; swimming kits/towels

In summer I dry outside as much as possible.
In winter I tumble dry bedding, towels, socks, underwear, some uniform and PJs.

I also have 2 big airers - 1 in the utility room in front of the boiler and 1 on the landing - whatever isn't being tumble dried gets hung on those (and I use them in summer when the weather's bad)

Apart from the bedding I try and put a wash on either in the evening or straightaway when I get up and then hang it up in the morning or straight after the school run. At the same time I fold up any dry stuff and put it away.

In theory I do any ironing required on Tuesday evenings in reality it piles up until noone has anything in their cupboards

amicissimma Mon 30-Sep-13 21:07:06

4 of us.
I do a dark load, a medium load and a white load a week, plus towels or adult sheets or DC sheets on a two week rotation.

I hardly use a tumble dryer, but find that even on an overcast day a load dries quite well outside and only needs airing. Not much needs ironing.

My secret weapon is a spin dryer. It's amazing how much water comes out of a wash even after a 1600 spin in the machine. I can iron something dry straight out of the spinner if I need it in a hurry.

Edithmark Mon 30-Sep-13 21:54:39

Scarlotti yes the 30 min wash is fine for most things. I use about 2 dessert spoons worth of very cheap powder from a value range and then a nicer fabric softener just for the pleasant smell. It all gets clean. Only exception is white school shirts for DS2 who is 6 and a messy eater too...his shirts get collected up on a Friday and go in bucket of warm water with an own brand stain remover. Leave overnight and wash at 30 the next day. Do towels and bedding on a bit hotter but still with a smallish amount of value powder.

flopsytherabbit Mon 30-Sep-13 22:04:47

I have one of these - it's fabulous!

www.airdryersystem.com/

marriedinwhiteisback Mon 30-Sep-13 22:05:29

Have only read the first page. I wash daily and probably three over four washes over the weekend. Goes on the line at weekends; rest of the time it's the tumble dryer. How do you lot manage on 3-5 loads a week. I don't even do the beds every week but have clean towels every week.

Want2bSupermum Mon 30-Sep-13 22:57:36

I do at least one load a day. Goes in as soon as the kids go down. Most goes in the tumble dryer and the rest goes on a clothes airer. All is done in our basement.

Turnipwurnip Mon 30-Sep-13 23:10:54

This is a scary thread! We have a clothes maiden constantly out in the dining room and the clothes are usually covered in cat fur before we manage to move them to their next location which is overspilling an armchair in the living room. I tend to yell at the kids once a week and make them take their clothes to their rooms, but I rarely manage to get ours up to our room and usually finish get dressed each morning by the chair. I'm terrified of the tumble dryer because it shrinks anything that I like and I also find that however long I leave it on for, the washing is never quite dry. Am I alone in this super-efficient laundry world?

Thewhingingdefective Mon 30-Sep-13 23:12:41

We are a household of six (two adults, four children.)

I do at least one load of washing a day, usually two or three loads, and use both washing line and dryer. Sometimes radiators too. Depends what I'm washing and drying. I like towels dried in tumble dryer, sheets dried outdoors.

I always have huge piles of freshly washed laundry waiting to be put away. As soon as one is cleared there is a new lot to replace it.

Bonkerz Mon 30-Sep-13 23:17:20

I do a load every day (6 of us in house, clean clothes and pjs every day, towels used once) and everything goes in dryer after wash. Then it gets put away! I iron what we want to wear every morning!
I used to spend hours every Sunday religiously ironing but with kids aged between 2-13 it never stayed crease free once they had rummaged in their drawers. Now I sort the washing, kids shove it in the drawers and I iron for 5-10 mins a day! Perfect !!!

Xmasbaby11 Mon 30-Sep-13 23:21:18

3 of us. We do about 4 loads a week, and either hang it in the spare room (attic) or outside, depending on weather, maybe tumble dry once a week. We are lucky we have quite a bit of space to dry stuff and try not to use the drier all the time.

DH irons his work clothes. I don't iron anything.

Thewhingingdefective Mon 30-Sep-13 23:23:19

Oh my God, Bonkerz. Yes. I wasted two hours yesterday ironing my DCs' clothes and uniforms. They are creased up again today from being crammed into drawers.

happilyconfused Mon 30-Sep-13 23:30:48

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/2180/Hangaway

I have a hangaway for shirts etc. it is fantastic.

MoominMammasHandbag Mon 30-Sep-13 23:36:02

Six of us here and endless amounts of grubby sports gear. I have blacks, whites and coloured baskets on the upstairs landing and I am insistent that dirty washing is put straight in the baskets.
I have a utility room and top of the range washing machine and tumble dryer. If the weather is okay I dry stuff outside. I don't do any ironing, DH does the odd shirt as required.
Dry washing is sorted into piles on the landing. I only put away my own and youngest DC, the teens and DH do their own.
I do a lot of washing but it is pretty much under control.

VerySmallSqueak Mon 30-Sep-13 23:41:59

I was eyeing up our covered bit outside today thinking I could put a clothes horse there - but then I realised the dog would cock his leg up it.

Hmmmph....

PoppyAmex Mon 30-Sep-13 23:47:10

I have an 8kg capacity washing machine so it takes pretty big loads at a time.

I tumble dry almost everything on low and hang the rest in the pulleymaid (best invention ever) in the utility room.

PoppyAmex Mon 30-Sep-13 23:49:18

Re. toploaders, we had those in Australia and whilst it was fast and you could add things mid cycle it was murder on the clothes.

Really harsh on the fibres and actually ripped a few items!

superlambanana Tue 01-Oct-13 00:07:48

I feel so disorganised blush I wash when washing basket overflows, then forget to hang stuff out and have to put it on rinse cycle again. Occasionally I'm organised enough to put washing on airer with dehumidifier in the room to make it dry faster. Most things need ironing as the tumble dryer creases everything massively. Ironing pile is currently about four feet high. There are only two of us... [useless emoticon]

Want2bSupermum Tue 01-Oct-13 02:18:09

I didn't say that I have two washing machines that I can run at the same time. I got them when DS was born in Feb as he had colic. It was a revolution. If there is lots of laundry on one day we can stay on top of it.

laughingeyes2013 Tue 01-Oct-13 03:21:31

I luckily found a double wicker basket so use one side for whites and the other for coloureds. It's great because it saves sorting and finding the odd stray red sock to turn everything pink

I do a weekly whites only wash, and then when the coloureds side is getting full I know it's time to do a load in the machine. My toddler and newborn bits are added from various other baskets in various bedrooms and it makes a full load o varying colours. I usually add a 'colour catcher' sheet in the cycle for safety, rather than separate the light ad dark colours!

I unfortunately have a cheap and rubbish washer-dryer which doesn't wash well and doesn't dry for hours on end. So at the moment I only tumble dry towels because life is too short to be without lovely thick, soft towels!

The rest is hung up on an airer or two downstairs, or if dry I will hang it outside. Depending on the weather and the fabric, it takes from 24-36 hours to fully dry.

When hanging washing out I 'hand-iron' it, which really makes a difference. As a result I get the iron out probably twice a year!

If I am having guests I put the washing away or simply don't wash that day, and do two washes the next day if I need to, to make up for it.

laughingeyes2013 Tue 01-Oct-13 03:23:50

Oh and I can't wait for a decent tumble dryer (getting one hopefully this week), because when we have wet bed situations from dear toddler, it can be a set-back with drying space, and end up with laundry catch-up all week!

laughingeyes2013 Tue 01-Oct-13 03:27:40

Oh and I've got a big sheet airer that I get out once a week to dry my king size bedding on it. The rest of the time it is out away under my bed out of sight.

Did I say towels are washed weekly too? We each have our own designated towel/towel rail space in the bathroom, and any kitchen towel or drying cloths are replaced daily.

SaltySeaBird Tue 01-Oct-13 06:13:59

We do on average 4 washes a week (2 adults, 1 mess magnet toddler).

We do have a tumble drier but it seems that 50% of our clothes won't tumble dry and DH hates any of his clothes being tumble dried as it "wrecks them". We don't have a washing line so clothes just end up on airers everywhere which I hate.

DH is very good at sorting out the washing in the evening when a cycle finishes but then nothing goes in the tumble drier. It looks like somebody has run round the house scattering wet washing everywhere. Duvets get spread over the dining table hmm

I think we need a washing line.

eggybrokenoff Tue 01-Oct-13 07:05:43

i have tried and tried not to iron - but everything looks so creased. dont know where i go wrong! some great indoor drying tips here though - never thought of a dehumidifier

UnicornsNotRiddenByGrownUps Tue 01-Oct-13 07:42:17

blush There are only two of us but I always seem to have a washing on the go. I do have a 6kg machine though so it's on the smaller side. Line dry when I can and have three airers for when I can't.

marriedinwhiteisback Tue 01-Oct-13 07:51:54

If I started all over again I would buy an industrial sized machine like they have in America. You can get them here but they are few and far between. We are moving in the next six weeks and the DC will have flown away within two years so it isn't worth it but if they were younger I'd do it. Tired of doing about 11 loads every week.

Does anyone know if the big machines are less or more energy efficient.

TobyLerone Tue 01-Oct-13 08:38:04

I bloody love a laundry thread.

3 of us at home all the time (me, DH, DS13) and DD12 every other weekend (she lives with her dad).

I wash the same as the OP -- everything washed after one wear, and bedding weekly. Towels used a couple of times and washed whenever there's a full load.

I have a tumble dryer, which I use for shirts, jeans, bedding and towels (when I can't put them outside on the line). Everything else goes on a clothes horse (if it can't go outside) and the living room is the only place it can go. It's often up in a corner and I'd rather it wasn't there, but there's nowhere else for it.

Kerrie34 Tue 01-Oct-13 09:11:53

my washing machine seems to b on constantly & I never seem to get on top of washing pile. 3 of us at home me partner & 9 week baby. all baby clothes r washed seperate then put on airer in living room hate it there most of our clothes get threw in dryer apart from t-shirts & jumpers which dry on airer in hall way which isn't very big. I iron as required x

Peetle Tue 01-Oct-13 09:47:07

2 adults, 2 6 year olds. We average about one load per day and never get to the bottom of the laundry pile. Separate washer and dryer (I've had a washer/dryer in the past and they were rubbish).

We tumble pretty much everything but if you get it out and fold it when it's still hot you can get away without ironing stuff like tee shirts. Leave it in the dryer to get cold and it will look like a map of the alps.

We iron the minimum but that still means school dresses, shirts and smart skirts or trousers.

And going for a run, etc, is usually preceded by a foraging expedition in the laundry pile. Which live in three (white, dark, coloured) IKEA laundry bins (which were about £3 and are brilliant).

TeacakeEater Tue 01-Oct-13 10:11:42

No tumble drier here. I line dry as much as possible, even in Winter it's worth "lightening" the towels and jeans outside. I hang stuff in a south facing room with the window open to air or an airer next to a radiator, again you have to air the room.

To avoid the need to iron:

empty washing machine as soon as it's finished,

shake out and smooth clothes really well,

line dry if possible,

don't buy linen or creasable cotton,

get shirt-wearers to iron their own.

TeacakeEater Tue 01-Oct-13 10:13:21

And yes to getting a washing machine with a high spin speed. It will reduce drying so much.

Cookethenook Tue 01-Oct-13 10:14:00

Ooh, i'm so glad someone asked this! I was beginning to think i was being a bit wasteful as our washing pile seems to have suddenly increased by quite a bit!

We're 2 adults, 1 7yo, 1 4mo in cloth nappies. I do a wash per day on 40 of clothes, nappies and wipes. Then at the weekend i do an extra wash per day of towels and sheets and nappies and wipes on a hot wash. We only wash stuff if it's dirty (we're not one of those 'wear it once and wash it' kind of families) but somehow we all seem to get through at least 1 change of outfit a day! I don't separate whites and colours.

Dry on an airer in our attic room and on doors and chairs around the house if no one is coming over. We have a washer dryer but it's awful and eats through electricity!

BuntyPenfold Tue 01-Oct-13 10:16:12

I line-dry if possible. If not, I use an airer in a spare bedroom, with a dehumidifier running in there. Shirts etc go on hangers. The water tank on the dehumidifier fills up, the washing dries.

I do use the tumble drier for towels and underwear, if there's a bit of a backlog.

I hate washing, It is the bane of my life. I have always said that if i could outsource one thing it would be washing.

We need to do a load a day, but we don't always 2 adults 1 child 1 toddler.

I barely cope with the washing. There's always racks and racks of it hanging around win the house, mainly in our conservatory.

I have no idea how to generate less, the toddler gets filthy, he gets me filthy. DH has smart work clothes which he needs to be fresh everyday. DD spends as many days as possible in her uniform. We have a heated airer from lakeland but it still takes ages. It's takes at least twice as long to dry it as it does to wash it so I'm always behind.

I have room for a tumble and can afford to buy a tumble but I couldn't afford the electricity to run the damn thing.

If we get backed up with washing too much if theres a D&V in the house or something then I take the wet stuff to the laundrette to dry it.

BeCool Tue 01-Oct-13 11:27:36

After posting on this thread I actually went and brought the Lakeland Heated Airer - though I have been pondering it for a few years now.

It's a birthday present to myself. WOW!!! Happy 46th birthday Becool!

KKKKaty Tue 01-Oct-13 11:33:06

This is my system:-

1. Everything goes in together on a 40 quick wash first thing. Unfortunately my washing machine quick wash doesn't have a very fast spin so I give it a separate fast spin after it's done. Whole thing takes less than 45 mins.
2. Everything gets hung up on the dryer thing on the utility ceiling, unless there's loads in which case the smalls get done in the dryer. I never tumble any clothes which need ironing as they get too creased and shrink.
3. Yesterdays stuff which is now dry gets ironed and everything put away. All done by 9.30 in the morning, generally.
4. I do a couple of extra washes a week of towels and bedding.

elQuintoConyo Tue 01-Oct-13 12:15:38

3 loads a week.
Everything bunged in together at 40°c.
Hung outside everyda on clothes rack/clothes horse, if raining it goes in spare rom with window open
Don't iron (well, maybe 10 items of clothing a year). DH does his own. He works from home, so no smart clothes; my job requires nothing fancy, certainly not ironing 2yo's clothes!

12345Floris Tue 01-Oct-13 12:15:53

My Mum hangs washing out all winter, as you do get those sharp sunny winter days. But she puts her pop-up gazebo over the line so they don't get hit by rain/snow showers.

In my old house where the dialogs were high enough, I had a Victorian dryer rack thing over the fridge which dried clothes in a day as the back of the fridge gives off heat. Probably a bit if a potential fire hazard though.

grew Tue 01-Oct-13 12:16:40

I'm jealous of everyone who manages to not iron my washing is always so creased. From this thread I'm going to try smaller loads and remove as soon as cycle finishes. But wanted to ask my washing 40 degree General cycle has a spin of 1400 automatically set. Should I reduce this? Or will this result in really wet clothes?

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12345Floris Tue 01-Oct-13 12:21:06

My Mum puts her pop-up garden gazebo over the washing line to keep rain/snow showers off the laundry in the colder months.

Upstairs landing is ideal for drying in winter, all that heat rising up the stairwell. If I was handy I'd fix a retractable drying line across the stairwell for the purpose. Or a Victorian airer on a pulley system.

This reminds me of living in Yorkshire,mwhere the back to back houses had no gardens so there were set days where everyone parked their cars up the end of the road and we all strung washing lines across the road. It was very homely and sociable having a chat on your neighbour's doorstep with all their frillies flapping about in your face, haha!

laughingeyes2013 Tue 01-Oct-13 12:51:34

grew I wouldn't reduce the spin, but when you hang up the washing do it immediately, and straighten everything out by pulling and flattening with your hands as you hang it up. It really is like using an iron on a low heat when you do that!

giraffeseatpineapples Tue 01-Oct-13 13:00:16

Can high spin cause things to shrink?

Emily1974 Tue 01-Oct-13 13:23:14

I do few loads a week, dry out in the garden if weather is definitely dry, if not, a rack in our conservatory or inside the living room if radiator is on. Tumble dry if no more room to hang. I don't iron smile

I live alone. I still do about 4 loads of washing a week but this is because I am obsessive particular about separating whites from other stuff and do sheets towels and knickers at 60 deg but everything else at 40 deg (unless very delicate where it might be 30) I have a clever washer that on some settings works out how heavy the wash is and therefore how much water is needed. so it isn't so bad washing a small load.

I don't have a tumble dryer and I don't really want one. My rotary airer broke a week or so back ( fell over as it had rusted through at base just after I had put a load of white sheets and pillowcases on!) and I have a new one and new soil spike (wouldn't fit old one!) to put out now, thus guaranteeing it will rain constantly for the next 6 months!

I find this time of year and in the Spring hardest to get washing dry ( when it can be quite wet outside but I don't need to put heating on) but I hang stuff on an airer in my spare doom and I also have a dehumidifier in there that I use if there is a lot to dry at once!

When the heating is on, I will put very nearly dry washing on radiators for a final airing but try not to put wet washing on as it makes the heating very inefficient!

I don't have an airing cupboard, but would quite like one!

yicketyyuckety Tue 01-Oct-13 14:07:13

I don't understand why anyone needs to do a wash load every day (or more). Surely people have enough clothes for dirty washing to wait at least 2 or 3 days to build up to a load of the same colour? It must be so wasteful of water and electricity....Genuinely intrigued, as I seem to be in the minority reading this thread.

We are family of 4 and do 3-4 washes a week, including towels and bedding and yes we do wear clean clothes every day. I hang out where possible and only tumble dry when necessary in bad weather.

herbaceous Tue 01-Oct-13 14:13:48

There are a couple of us, yickety, but indeed do seem in a minority. The only reason I do as much washing as I do (three or four loads a week) is to get DS's school uniform clean, as he only has three jumpers and spills his lunch down them pretty much every day. However, I'm just going to buy more jumpers!

TobyLerone Tue 01-Oct-13 14:20:47

I probably do 4 or 5 washes a week, plus towels and bedding.
DS is a teenager and plays rugby twice a week for school and twice a week for the town. Then there are school shirts/jumpers, pyjamas, clothes he wears (and gets sweaty in!) skateboarding after school, underwear, socks etc.
DH has a clean t-shirt, shirt and jumper for work every day. Wears jeans/trousers a couple of times.
I wear everything once and then wash it.

Clawdy Tue 01-Oct-13 14:27:42

We have an old-fashioned drying rack on a pulley,and everything dries almost overnight on there if it too wet outside. Can't imagine life without it,but will have to as we're moving house!

madeofkent Tue 01-Oct-13 14:32:22

Until recently there were three of us, me, DBH and 18 year old son now at uni. the washing has halved, I was doing 8 loads a week easily because of all their sports clothes. Son also did CCF so his uniform for that had to be spotless every week. Even though my husband does athletics twice a week or more, bevause his clothes are now so thin and light nowadays I am only doing three loads a week or occasionally four and that includes bedding and towels. It's really rather nice. In the meantime Son is finding uni washers extremely expensive at £5 a go for washing and drying so is having to make all his clothes last for two days and is hand-washing all his underwear! I'm stunned.

Until last year I didn't have a drier, but I found it impossible to cope when my daughter and her family come to stay. The whole house was draped in washing, every radiator and damp steamy windows. Not a good look at xmas. So the drier is in one of the greenhouses with a freezer and acts as an overwintering plants humidifier, with the freezer keeping the plants above freezing. It works very well.

herbaceous Tue 01-Oct-13 14:41:31

Where it all goes wrong is 'washing after one wear'. Surely only pants, socks, smelly sports stuff and anything covered by a child in food/pooh/snot needs washing after one wear.

madeofkent Tue 01-Oct-13 14:44:25

Clothes last longer too, if they aren't washed too often.

MinesAPintOfTea Tue 01-Oct-13 14:50:11

Yes herb, but with a toddler I'm doing well if any of my clothes aren't soaked in snot or splatter with soup or something by the end if the day.

Less of a problem in summer when I loved in lightweight cotton dresses, now I need to wash Jeans and jumpers.

MoominMammasHandbag Tue 01-Oct-13 14:53:45

I have just googled and apparently it costs between 30 and 50p an hour to run a tumble dryer. Personally I am quite happy to pay a few pounds a week to have the house not draped in damp washing.

yicketyyuckety Tue 01-Oct-13 14:56:44

my point is that even if something does need washing after one wear, it will still be OK if left in the laundry basket for a day or two before washing (i agree, certain soilings need washing out sooner, but then i would soak in a bowl first and wait for main wash)...

MinesAPintOfTea Tue 01-Oct-13 15:09:16

I don't wash every day because I feel washing needs doing immediately, I do so because we create about 6 loads of laundry (for or small machine, including bedding and towels) and its easier if I stay on top of it.

TobyLerone Tue 01-Oct-13 15:13:18

Yes, yickety. I always wait for a full load before I wash stuff. It's just that it takes about 2 days max in my house to make up a full load of any type.

MoominMammasHandbag Tue 01-Oct-13 15:14:58

I wash pretty much every day, but only if there is enough of whichever colour to get a full load (and my machine takes 7kg). My friend has a thing about the washing basket being completely empty so he often does half a load. I let mine build up to a decent amount. I don't think my three baskets have ever all been empty at the same time.

I am more intrigued by a family of four doing 3 to 4 washes a week, including towels and bedding. Surely your bedding would take one load, your towels another. So the four of you only generate 1 or 2 loads of clothes a week?

yicketyyuckety Tue 01-Oct-13 15:31:50

Moomin, yes bedding, towels, one pale, one dark. Sometimes I leave the bedding <whispers> 2 weeks between washing. We don't have many white things between us so don't do whites very often. (It does work, and we don't smell, honest!) Of course I do the occasional extra wash when needed, but that's on average.

rrreow Tue 01-Oct-13 15:49:43

I wash every day as I have a baby and toddler in reusable nappies. The whites go in with the nappies (please give me your best horrified look grin). Plus a separate dark wash a week. I only tumble dry sheets as don't have anywhere to put them. The rest of the laundry is on two airers and a maiden.

I can't WAIT for both kids to be out of nappies so I can go back to my lazy ways of 2-3 washes a week!

1789 Tue 01-Oct-13 16:36:17

sorry to interject in a nice thread about washing, but it made me sad to read about all of this tumble dryer usage. Tumble dryers are one of the most environmentally unfriendly appliances out there - and they're not good for your clothes in any case. i have two small children and live in a small london house and still manage to air dry all of our clothes - often overnight when guests and visitors are gone! My advice is just to stop using the tumble dryer - and definitely don't replace a broken one. You will be surprised at how easy it is when there is no other option and it saves you money too!
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ethicallivingblog/2008/may/02/treadlightlyswitchofftumbl

1789 Tue 01-Oct-13 16:38:39

oh - and rreow - i used cloth nappies too - and i agree! it does make such a difference when kids are out of nappies and have been weaned. washing drops dramatically!

I have a washer dryer but only use the dryer setting if there's a big backlog, and I set the timer to run overnight so I can use Economy 7. Too much tumble drying is environmental vandalism!

In the winter I do a load in the evening, hang it up overnight in the study and put it away in the morning. In summer I do the wash overnight, hang in morning outside and put away in the evening. I probably do 3-4 loads a week and we change the sheets once a week.

As for ironing, I'd prefer not to bother. DH doesn't care but I will occasionally iron shirts and dresses if I'm feeling posh.

I do a mixed wash usually and dose DH's gym kit with Napisan as it gets the armpit stink out - I reasoned if it got the smell of stale wee out of DD's nappies (she's out of them now thank goodness) it would work on armpit. And it does.

KateCroydon Tue 01-Oct-13 17:07:27

Don't wash after every wear.

CreamyCooler Tue 01-Oct-13 18:02:08

I do about 9 loads a week ( whites, colours or black) on quick 30 minute wash. I dry on a clothes horse in the garden or on clothes horse in the utility room and finish it of in airing cupboard. I have a dryer which I only use in emergency such as chid sick all over the bedding. I never ever iron. I dry DH's work shirts on hangers on the clothes horse. I think the thing to avoid ironing is to take washing out of the machine as soon as it's finished and hang it to dry straight away. I absolutely hate laundry.

Want2bSupermum Tue 01-Oct-13 19:07:30

Here in the US gas dryers are very common. We have one and while it cost $100 more we have more than saved that with usage costs.

1789 I find those sorts of articles to be misleading. I would think it is far better for a family to use a tumble dryer than to use a drycleaner. Also, my Dad reuses the water from his dryer to water the plants. The hot air is blown into the heating vents during the cold months so helps heat the house.

lucywiltshire Tue 01-Oct-13 20:10:07

I do between 10 and 15 washes a week and everything goes in the tumble drier. Very un-environmentally friendly I know!

Seabright Tue 01-Oct-13 20:11:51

I have a strict washing schedule, there are 3 of us and I do 5 loads per week:

Monday: multicoloured wash
Tuesday: towels
Wednesday: whites (the day/wash letter matching runs out here)
Thursday: multicoloured
Friday: bedding

I put a wash on first thing, about 6:15, and it's ready to go on the line 55 minutes later. If it's wet, it goes on the Sheila-Maid ceiling dryer-rack in the utility room.

Tumble dryer only as an absolute last resort (too expensive, I reckon about 50-75p per load, which doesn't sound much, but add it up over a year and it's a huge amount)

BaconAndAvocado Tue 01-Oct-13 20:27:30

I only ever use the 30 degree, 28 minute cycle probably 8 times a week.

I do use the tumble as I find it much easier, and I don't have a washing line.

I'm shocked to find out how expensive the tumble dryer costs shock

SadBadMadFat Tue 01-Oct-13 20:36:30

sheets dried over (open) doors. they dry in no time.

smalls in airing cupboard on a flat clothes horse wedged in the doorway (if that makes sense).

clothes that hang, i put on hangers and hang on small clothes horse i got from ikea. its brilliant and compact. clothes dry quicker when ready hanged and can then go staright back in wardrobe after (barring any ironing).

some on hangers on curtain rail and slightly open window to dry.

in midwinter those little rail hook things you hook onto radiators.

didireallysaythat Tue 01-Oct-13 20:36:34

30 minute cycle, 30 degrees and line dry. Probably 4-5 loads a week (2 adults, 3 year old, 7 year old) I only tumble if it hasn't dried on the line (its windy in the SE). Got a covered rotary drier though so clothes can stay out for days until they are dried or we need them. I love the fact we didn't need to plug the tumble drier in between may and September thus year. A great drying summer !

Jan49 Tue 01-Oct-13 21:50:00

How on earth did we get to a situation where people with dc are talking about needing to do so much washing? The point of washing machines was surely to save time and effort compared to the once a week hard work of washing everything by hand? Have we switched the hard slog of a Monday morning to a constant daily task of washing to be sorted?

When I was a child in the 1960s/70s my mum did washing every Monday for our family of 3 dc and 2 adults. I suppose it would have been the equivalent of one modern machine load and probably took my mum a few hours. It was then spin dried and hung on an airer for a day or so. Most of it got ironed too, excluding sheets and underwear. So it was a few hours washing and a few hours ironing. The rest of the week there was no washing done. When I was about 10 my mum started doing a weekly trip to the launderette instead as it was easier, but again it would have been one or maybe two loads.

KatyPutTheCuttleOn Tue 01-Oct-13 22:03:03

Absolutely everything goes on the line, we have no way of drying anything in the house.
I wash when it is dry/looks like it will be dry. Luckily my work trousers will dry overnight hanging over my wardrobe door as I need to wash and wear them the next day.

Bproud Tue 01-Oct-13 22:11:54

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the Lakeland heated airers are just as effective as a tumble drier if used overnight and are supposed to be cheaper to run.

I'm quite pleased if a load in the tumble dryer is 50p-75p, seems well worth it to me for less hassle and less creases, but I know it's bad for the environment - that concerns me more. I love my dryer too much blush

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 02-Oct-13 07:59:28

Well that's the daily grind over: made tea, had shwr, dressed for work, dropped dd at bus stop, one load of washing in at 40, one load out of the tumbler, ironing in the ironing pile, put aways in the put away pile, and another load in the tumbler (not forgetting the dishwasher). Just got the slap to slap on and then I'm off to the resting job grin

Mirage Wed 02-Oct-13 09:32:00

Jan49 I suppose that people have a lot more clothes these days.When I was growing up,clothes were expensive and were bought because they were needed,not because they were wanted .We've created more work for ourselves.

kitsmummy Wed 02-Oct-13 10:41:48

I get really pissed off when people get all uppity about tumble dryer use (only one person on this thread that i'm talking about btw). Not all of us want or need to dry every single item of washing in the house.

It's not good for damp/condensation to have 5 or 6 loads of washing drying about the house. I don't want to live in a house that permanently has washing hanging around drying. And also, if I was to hang my washing out overnight, it would not be dry by the morning. Sheets and shirts maybe, but not anything thicker than cotton. Unless I had the heating on 24 hours a day which obviously has a different environmental impact.

Each to their own I say, there are more things to get upset about than a bit of autumn/winter tumble dryer usage.

1789 Wed 02-Oct-13 11:06:04

@Want2bSupermum - of course I wouldn't dream of using a normal dry cleaner! Just posted the article as didn't have time to write more myself. Tumble dryers are an environmental nightmare, but dry cleaners are an environmental disaster! Perchloroethylene is unbelievably damaging to the environment and to the humans exposed to it and highly carcinogenic. I take my husband's suits to a green dry cleaner that uses a silicone-based solvent a couple of times a year, which is better but not ideal. I am desperate for someone to open a liquid carbon dry cleaner in the UK. Everything else apart from suits gets hand washed or gentle cycle- it's not that difficult or time consuming!

@kitsmummy - I'm sorry you think I'm uppity, but I am just shocked that people can talk about their washing habits without thinking about the environmental impact of their behaviour - and to think of ways that they can improve. I am constantly trying to do better on all fronts! Some stuff needs 24 hours to dry - but that doesn't bother me as I usually do the clothes once a week - and that is highly preferable to the environmental impact of a tumble dryer IMO.

Don't even get me started on washing powder. Typical ones contain ingredients such sodium lauryl sulfate, dioxane, benzene, napthas, phenols, optical brighterers, artificial fragrance, phosphates, EDTA, bleach etc - all things I really don't want near my skin!

ringaringarosy Wed 02-Oct-13 12:01:27

I cant wait to get a dryer,i dont care about the enviroment tbh.

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 02-Oct-13 13:29:55

1789 I think you make your comments without knowing what else many families do for the environment. Yes, I use the tumbler daily, but we also have photovoltaic panels and an electric car. People have to do what suits their lives and like others I don't want a home full of wet washing and am out at work all day and pegging out doesn't work - rain and stuff. Happy for folk to try to dictate about stuff that is illegal less so about stuff that is legal.

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 13:47:09

I couldn't give a toss if someone judges me for my environmental impact. Not even for a second.

HesterShaw Wed 02-Oct-13 14:06:07

It amuses and bafflese when people with children say they don't care about the environment, as though to try and prove they are refreshingly honest, when actually it proves they are a selfish, short sighted nob.

handcream Wed 02-Oct-13 14:11:56

I do loads of washing but with clothes hanging over bannisters, on door knobs etc. Doesnt it make it difficult to move around the house (and all the wooden bannisters wet and liable to rotting?)

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 14:13:13

If you're talking about me, HesterShaw, you should probably read what I said again.

If you're not, carry on name-calling!

HesterShaw Wed 02-Oct-13 14:18:47

I wasn't talking about you.

Jan49 Wed 02-Oct-13 14:55:17

Regardless of how much or little people care about the environmental impact of tumble driers, I just don't see why some people seem to think it's so difficult to do a machine load of washing, then hang it all on an airer and leave it there for a few days to dry. Then do another load. Rather than drying it all in a TD. confused If the problem is that you need to do more washing than that, why not cut down on how frequently you wash things such as sheets and towels?

giraffeseatpineapples Wed 02-Oct-13 15:03:58

I dont have a tumble drier and try to use the line but washing left in the house on the airer for days will prob smell funny. Ime if it hasnt dried by the end of 24/ 36 hours it will need rewashing. Also all the bits I have read on here about mold/ condensation etc make me think it might be a false econmy to use radiators/ airers instead of condensor TD. My windows have gone black round the edges and will need repainting - in itself costly to the environment. Having washing hanging around a terrace house for days on end is depressing.

handcream Wed 02-Oct-13 15:05:23

Kits mummy is correct. For people who dont have a spare room and who look down on people using a tumble dryer. Do you really think hanging things off bannisters and door handles is any better, let alone kids knocking over the clothes airers etc.

I have a spare room so use it for drying with the window open if possible.

I did use the tumble dryer a lot and have dramatically cut down (to 1-2 a week). My DH hates seeing soggy washing everywhere.....

And of course outside if at all possible.

AllDirections Wed 02-Oct-13 15:39:15

If the problem is that you need to do more washing than that, why not cut down on how frequently you wash things such as sheets and towels?

Bedding every 2 weeksish and towels once a weekish and I still do at least a load every day. If I washed my bedding and towels any less I'd have to move to Skanky Land grin

Jan49 Wed 02-Oct-13 15:41:32

My clothes airer is in the dining room next to the dining room table and it's a terraced house. The washing tends to be part dry in about 12 hours and would never be still wet in a few days. It never smells or needs rewashing. I've never had a problem with mould. Some houses also have an airing cupboard which will speed up drying.

I think some people create imaginary problems as an excuse to use a tumble drier. The dc who could knock over a clothes airer presumably could also knock over washing up drying on the sink or pans of hot food, so you'd better eat nothing but takeaways just in case. grin

kitsmummy Wed 02-Oct-13 16:14:04

Jan bad example, washing up and pans are not kept in the middle of the floor are they? They are kept on worktops where you are physically blocked from getting to them as there is a kitchen cupboard in the way. In my house yes, clothes airers would get knocked over on a daily basis I expect.

Jeans, sweatshirts etc will take a couple of days to dry in a dining room or similar, unless you put the heating on for it especially, which then kind of loses the environmental savings.

And besides, i want to use a bloody dryer instead of having a house permanently covered in damp washing!

handcream Wed 02-Oct-13 16:21:36

I have to admit that hoodies, large duvets, wel towels take ages to dry and I really dont like looking at airers constantly over the winter. I agree again with Kitsmummy. Our airers (and I do have one!) would get knocked over time and time again and seriously do people really dry their clothes on the bannisters and the door handles. Thats another thing that would last 5 mins. A door is opened, the washing falls off endlessly during the day. Surely the wood wouldnt last..

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 16:32:05

Hoodies dry fairly quickly if you hang them on hangers over doorframes.

1789 Wed 02-Oct-13 16:51:55

@ marriedinwhiteisback - I am not making my comments without thinking about what you're doing for the environment. I think it's amazing that you have an electric car. I just think environmental impact should be a consideration in all of our daily activities and people like TobyLerone make me despair at the state of humanity - I really just don't understand that mindset at all, especially with something like tumble drying. Besides the environmental issues, it's bad for your clothes and it's more expensive!

I like being reminded of my environmental impact - in fact, a friend just pointed out that we used liquid hand soap in our house which is much more environmentally damaging that bar soap (all those plastic bottles going to landfill) - I can't believe I hadn't thought about that before and I have now changed to bar soap in all the bathrooms and kitchen!

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 16:54:23

I am really glad my friends don't point out things like that to me.

The evenings must fly past in your house, 1789.

giraffeseatpineapples Wed 02-Oct-13 17:10:00

My airer has been knocked over quite a few times and the children often play houses under the airers - I dont use a Tumble Dryer out of choice so my excuses are not made up. Part dry clothes after 12 hours, but we dont have an airing cupboard so part dry is not sufficient and means I have to iron them dry or put them on a radiator. Maybe my house is damper than yours jan grin. When the heating is on things will dry on the airer but at the moment I am trying to be kind to the environment by keeping the heating off!

1789 did you read the telegraph article about the effects of mold - family health is an important consideration too smile

VerySmallSqueak Wed 02-Oct-13 17:16:01

What do you use to wash your clothes in 1789 ?

Do you use those wash balls?

I use Ecover but am keen to see what else is available ,that is financially viable,reasonably easy to get hold of,and,of course,good for the environment and my family's health.

Thanks (and sorry for bit of a derail....)

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 17:17:36

What do you use to wash your clothes in 1789 ?

If the answer to that is not "the river (with sulphate-free soap, naturally), a washboard and a mangle" I will be most disappointed.

HesterShaw Wed 02-Oct-13 17:18:55

Electric cars are greenwash.

Just run your normal one sensibly.

HesterShaw Wed 02-Oct-13 17:20:07

1979, you could always put the plastic bottles in the recycling?

Or refill bottles from a larger container.

YoureBeingADick Wed 02-Oct-13 18:41:40

can I ask people who wash at 30 degrees- do you get good results from that?

I have tried it and I was shocked to see how horrible my whites looked after a 30 degree wash. I had to rewash them at 60. I also now wash everything at 60 because if 30 wasn't getting my whites clean then it's not getting anything else clean either except it's harder to tell on colours.

also- on my machine- (BOSCH Logixx8) you can only do lower temperature washes on smaller wash loads- so even though it's an 8kg machine I can only do 40 or 30 degrees on 5kg washloads or less and 15 degree or cold wash on a 3 kg load. is there any way round that if I do manage to sort out the 30degree not washing stuff issue?

Clawdy Wed 02-Oct-13 18:49:49

I use 40 cotton cycle for most things, 30 for wool or delicates. Agree for whites you really need 60, which is what I do,but I'm sure some people will disagree.

giraffeseatpineapples Wed 02-Oct-13 18:54:58

I wash white tshirts and shirts with ariel actilift powder and def coming out white, but who knows maybe they have loads of bleach residue from the powder?

giraffeseatpineapples Wed 02-Oct-13 18:55:26

sorry I mean I wash those items at 30

eggybrokenoff Wed 02-Oct-13 19:07:49

reading this thread i am v keen to get a dehumidifier. are any ones better than others?
i have no idea how people are getting stuff dry on a airer in 12 hours. mine stays damp for days and yes often smells. i would prob use drier more if we had a decent one - as it is its for emergency bedding etc.
i think airing cupboards are key. we dont have one. my mum used to have a huge one with the (badly insulated) hot water tank in there and it was toasty warm and anything still damp but ironed would dry in no time and smell lovely!

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 19:39:12

I wash most things at 40 because I know that things don't get properly clean at 30 (either in the visible sense or the invisible sense).

Towels and bedding at 60 or 90, depending on how much time I have.

Most things get dry on an airer in between 12 & 24 hours. Nothing ever smells. But I am very particular about how things go on the airer. Everything must be shaken out so it has as few creases as possible, and be laid on the airer so that it is completely flat with no bunches or folds. I also try to alternate bigger things (t-shirts, leggings etc) with small things (pants, socks) on the next 'line'.

Anything I can hang up instead (jumpers, skirts, dresses, hoodies, cardigans etc) gets hung on hangers and hung over upstairs doorframes. They're always dry the next day.

Shirts, school trousers, jeans, towels and sheets get tumble dried, guilt-free, if it's too wet/cold to hang them outside. I don't iron. Saving the environment, bit by bit.

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 02-Oct-13 20:02:18

i hope the plastic bottles were fully finished with the last bit watered down to make it last longer before the bottles were thrown away wink.

Jan49 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:09:59

Eggybrokenoff, I find it's only the lighter stuff that dries in 12 hours on an airer and it depends on the weather, heating etc. But if I just leave it on the airer all spread out it dries in a few days regardless of circumstances. Trousers and skirts get ironed so they dry more quickly and might be hung on the side of the airer on a hanger to add space. Usually pants take longest to dry and I have them on a separate hanging thing on the side of the airer. I used to then transfer the stuff to an airing cupboard but I don't have one now so in winter I put it in a pile on a chair by a radiator. I sometimes cram 2 machine loads of washing onto the airer and it still dries.

Although I've never had a tumble drier, I've used one in a launderette and also owned a washer-drier at times and I've always then transferred the washing to the airer, so I'm not sure what people who use a TD do with the washing afterwards. I'd want to either hang it on an airer or put it in an airing cupboard. Surely you can't just take stuff out of the TD and put it away with your clothing - it must be hot and steamy?

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 20:11:56

I take it out of the dryer, fold it or hang it immediately so it doesn't crease, and put it away. It's not steamy because it's dry.

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 02-Oct-13 20:25:54

I do what TobyLerone does - except I put some in the ironing basket so my environmentally aware cleaner can iron it on Fridays grin She's very environmentally aware - last time she got the coach back to Poland instead of the Plane.

TobyLerone Wed 02-Oct-13 20:28:06

I did an actual LOL at the coach thing grin

I do about 5 loads a week (me, DP & 2 DD's). If dry I always hang washing on the line. If there are days of rain I will hang washing on clothes horse at night in living room & put dehumidifier on, they are great and dry a whole load of washing overnight.

1789 Thu 03-Oct-13 11:28:36

I use 4 squirts of Method laundry detergent with some soda crystals (to soften London water) for the kids clothes, sheets and towels. I use ecoballs for my clothes and my husband's clothes! I also make sure to buy Method refills rather than buying new plastic bottles of Method (I buy them from Ethical Superstore) so I have had the same bottle for a couple of years now.

We have a small cellar where the boiler is located so I know that we are lucky in that clothes dry out very quickly down there so no concerns about mold etc when it's damp outside.

Of course I care about family health - which is why I wouldn't touch conventional washing powder with a barge pole. Typical ingredients include optical brighteners, fragrance (including hormone-disrupting phthalates), phosphates (toxic to marine life and can't be removed at water treatment plants - already banned in many EU countries), napthas (cancer and lung damage), formaldehyde (a known carcinogen), bleach etc... I wouldn't want these products anywhere near my skin or my children's skin which is why I don't use conventional products to wash our clothes, sheets etc!

BeCool Thu 03-Oct-13 13:13:19

"I use 4 squirts of Method laundry detergent with some soda crystals (to soften London water) for the kids clothes, sheets and towels. I also make sure to buy Method refills rather than buying new plastic bottles of Method (I buy them from Ethical Superstore) so I have had the same bottle for a couple of years now."

I do the same as 1789 though I used Method on my clothes too. LOVE Method & soda crystals. Love just having that tiny bottle and a refill lasts forever and takes up no room in the cupboard.

My Lakeland heated air dryer just arrived - everyone in the office is curious.

ShoeWhore Thu 03-Oct-13 13:36:44

Can someone do the Maths for me on the Lakeland heated airer v a tumble dryer. Lakeland only quotes the kw/hr on it but I've heard people say you need to leave it running overnight to get the stuff dry. Whereas of course a tumble dryer uses more electricity but for substantially less time.

I just wonder how much more environmentally friendly the heated airer truly is? Is it much different to standing a normal airer in front of the boiler which is what I do in the winter and it seems quite efficient. (harder to get stuff dry indoors in Spring/Autumn though ime)

BeCool Thu 03-Oct-13 13:45:59

I don't have a tumbler dryer so the maths doesn't matter to me.
I'll just have to make sure I turn the bloody thing off!

ringaringarosy Thu 03-Oct-13 16:34:30

global warming is all a con anyway. wine

HesterShaw Thu 03-Oct-13 17:00:15

Oh that's it then.

99% of scientists disagree with you, but if you say so smile
You and claig would get one well.

HesterShaw Thu 03-Oct-13 17:01:33

PS "Global warming" is not a term generally in use apart from by people who comment on Daily Mail articles saying this like "So much for global warming!!!!" when an article about snow appears.

buildingmycorestrength Thu 03-Oct-13 17:30:31

Heater, such a brilliant parody, I am properly laughing!!!!! grin

ringaringarosy Thu 03-Oct-13 22:02:58

99 per cent you say?do you have proof its 99 per cent?

To be fair it was tongue in cheek,either way im not bothered,global warming climate change,its all the same to me,i have no idea what its called i only hear what other people call it,i have better things to think about!

HesterShaw Thu 03-Oct-13 22:39:17

That is the oft quoted statistic yes, but no, I don't have proof that is definitely 99% no.

Anyway, you're not bothered so it doesn't matter. You have better things to think about like washing.

VerySmallSqueak Thu 03-Oct-13 22:59:48

Thank you 1789.

I have never tried the Method stuff,but I will now look out for it.

I also use soda crystals. Just seems to get stuff that bit cleaner as well as softening the water.

TwoStepsBeyond Fri 04-Oct-13 09:34:14

For anyone concerned about airers being knocked over, I have 2 over-the-bath airers I mentioned upthread, so it may have been missed by those late to the party! My DCs only have a bath twice a week so it is the least used part of my house, but the airers are easy to fold flat for half an hour with the clothes still on them, they can be put back up once the bath is empty. Keeps clothes out of the way and if they are slow to dry I sometimes prop them along the landing next to the bannisters so the rising warm air dries them even more quickly.

I have a washer/drier which is crap as a drier (like someone else said, it can only dry half a load, so you have to empty it out when the wash finishes, then choose which half to dry, it takes ages and then the clothes come out all screwed up and still partly damp most of the time.) I much prefer my airers, free, take up no space and no environmental impact.

FWIW, those saying they don't care about the environment, I think its more that our tiny little impact compared to big businesses and larger countries really makes very little difference on a global scale. I remember a comedian once (Sean Lock?) who likened his recycling efforts of rinsing out a Marmite jar to turning up at an earthquake with a dustpan and brush.

yy two steps

but if 10 million people turned up at a earthquake with a dustpan and brush......?

HesterShaw Fri 04-Oct-13 09:46:04

Yes, but has it ever been ok to just say, "Well at least I'm not as bad as they are"? That's just like giving up! Lots of people making small differences is surely better than no one being arsed to do anything because no one else is. Anyway some charming soul will accuse me of being smug and preachy in a minute - which I'm not - so I'll stop smile

BeCool Fri 04-Oct-13 09:52:19

I think every little change in our habits makes a huge difference.

Just imagine:
Every Londoner recycling, making sure their taps don't drip and using eco-bulbs;
vs
Every Londoner throwing all waste into the rubbish, letting their taps drip drip drip and using old style bulbs.

Just because a comedian makes a joke with a ridiculous but powerful image, doesn't mean the point they are making is in fact true.

BeCool Fri 04-Oct-13 09:56:26

in effect each community IS a big business.

The "I'm too small to make any difference" is a cop out.

Take responsibility for your consumption. Teach your DC to do the same.
Teach them just because we are privileged (and lucky) enough to be able to turn a tap on and get fresh clean safe water, doesn't mean we should leave the tap on all day, even if we can 'afford' the water bill.

The world is much bigger and more important than me me me!

HesterShaw Fri 04-Oct-13 09:57:34

Hear hear

ringaringarosy Fri 04-Oct-13 11:22:50

quoted where Hester?where do you get this info from?

BeCool Fri 04-Oct-13 11:38:50

The use of quotation marks (or inverted commas) is far broader than just indicating a direct quote.

BeCool Fri 04-Oct-13 11:39:54

oops wrong thread grin

HesterShaw Fri 04-Oct-13 12:53:48

I think you're missing the point ringarosy. The point is a large majority of scientists (90% or 99% or 85% is immaterial - it's still a large majority) agree that climate change is happening. Whether this is caused by CO2 in the atmosphere or carbon particles in ice acting as a heat sink, as I heard recently...I don't think it matters actually. If there's a large chance this is happening, then if there are small things I can do, then I will. It doesn't put me out. And yes I stand by my original comment that people with childen who don't care about the environment are selfish and short sighted. My opinion.

ringaringarosy Fri 04-Oct-13 13:23:08

But we dont know if those things really make any difference though do we?We know its happening but we dont know if its just nature taking its course or if its something e have done.

So people without children dont have to care then?only people with children?If that makes people think i am selfish then i really dont mind!It might be,but i have lots of other things going for me so it really doesnt matter.

HesterShaw Fri 04-Oct-13 13:29:27

Not at all. I don't have children myself. And if I did have, then I'd also be doing everything I reasonably could because I don't think I could look them in the eye when they ask why the world is in such a state and say "I did nothing because I couldn't be arsed."

Anyway back to washing....

HesterShaw Fri 04-Oct-13 13:30:54

Oh and personally I think that the amount of crap we are pumping into the sky ans the sea couldn't fail to be changing things.

PosyNarker Fri 04-Oct-13 20:27:08

We do several loads at the weekend and I usually try to get a couple on through the week. There are two of us.

Sheets and towels always on the weekend and unless summer, they get tumble dried. I have two airers, one in the utility room and another one that gets used as and when necessary.

We have an A rated condenser drier, so it uses much less electricity than a standard tumble drier. It'd be lovely to dry outdoors more, but during the week it's only practical in summer.

MinesAPintOfTea Fri 04-Oct-13 20:44:37

One thing to consider from a green perspective us how much if the heat is "wasted". If the drier is only being run when its too cold and damp to dry outside then any excess heat which is kept within the house isn't actually wasted energy, its just being moved from intentional heating systems.

LemonDrizzleCake11 Fri 04-Oct-13 21:00:31

I've become a convert to the lakeland heated drier (http://www.lakeland.co.uk/21736/Dry-Soon-3-Tier-Heated-Tower-Airer)... I put my washing on when I get in from work at 6, get it out at 8, put it on the heated drier then drape a sheet over the top to help keep the heat in, and then in the morning its all dry and I can put it away!

Sadly to keep on top of the volume of washing my two children husband and child produce I end up having to do this at least 5 nights a week....

BeCool Fri 04-Oct-13 21:11:40

Lemon my first load has just been hung on the LL heated tower airer and I'm eyeing it suspiciously.
<awaits morning>

confused

At least one wash a day here (2 adults, 2 school age girls); thats with the girls wearing their school jumpers and pjs two days in a row.

I hang out if dry, tumble dry all undies/pjs/towels, we have a clothes horse and pulley when wet but am finding everything takes an age to dry hmm

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