Need some help and advice on washing please.

(38 Posts)
napkin Sat 05-Jan-13 22:54:55

I have recently been having a lot of problems with my washing, it has got me so down! My old washing machine broke down in May. Since then i have purchased a Zanussi, indesit, samsung, bosch, beko and now hotpoint washing machine. Managed to get most returned but two! Each one has left my clothes badly bobbled/pilled and is making new clothes look old after one wash. I have tried all sorts of settings on each one. Different detergents. I use comfort- the original blue one but dilute it. I mainly have found Persil non bio powder tablets to work best and prefer to use non bio as one of my sons has slight eczema and don't like too strong of a smell either. Liquids i find rinse away better but leave some stuff more worn looking like more heavy items. I mainly use the extra rinse cycle as most modern machines don't rinse well. I am wondering if this could maybe be something to do with the low water usage in new machines meaning more friction on clothes. Has this been happening to anyone else? Has anyone got any advice? It would be much appreciated as i have thrown so many items away and am scared of washing anything else and ruining it.

SlatternismyMiddlename Sun 06-Jan-13 10:40:14

What temperature are you washing at?

napkin Sun 06-Jan-13 13:24:54

I wash at 30 most of the time, bedding and towels at 40 or 60.

napkin Thu 10-Jan-13 17:03:29


TheJanuaryProject Thu 10-Jan-13 20:30:49

I've not had that kind of problem, but I thought regular washing powder was the best for machines. I only use about half the recommended washing powder and my clothes are perfectly clean. I have tried liquids and tablets before but always been really I satisfied with the wash performance. We use fairy for everything, but I do add soda crystals for whites, work shirts, and towels. I don't use any softener at all but I do live in a soft water area. If I didn't, I'd probably use white vinegar rather than softener.

napkin Fri 11-Jan-13 00:03:35

Thank You for your advice TheJanuaryProject. I do live in a hard water area and have tried white vinegar but with no different affects. Have tried reducing powder and using soda crystals too. Wish i could solve this problem.

AlbertaCampion Fri 11-Jan-13 00:07:59

Try soap nuts. They're marvellous: they grow on trees and are sold dried. They are infused with natural soap and very gentle, as well as being Eco-friendly. Google for stockists.

MinimalistMommi Fri 11-Jan-13 13:21:14

Are you buying good quality clothes? Cheap clothes tend to wash badly. Most high street clothes don't tend to be amazing quality, some are better than others.
Ae you tumble drying ? Tumbling clothes can fade them quickly.

napkin Fri 11-Jan-13 17:56:17

Do you use conditioner with soapnuts AlbertaCampion? Are they good with stains? I thought it may be the quality of the clothes but it is happening to every item no matter the cost of the item. Only tumble dry bedding and towels. Thanks everyone, much appreciated. Getting me down clothes only lasting a couple of washes.

TheJanuaryProject Fri 11-Jan-13 19:15:41

For stains, white wonder is amazing. Available from Lakeland, and it lasts for ages. Can be used on all sorts of things, not just clothes. I got some food stains out of a white top recently very easily, even though the top had already been washed and dried. And honestly, it sounds odd, but white vinegar is a great softener substitute. Cheaper too! I used to use it on DS's washable nappies when we were at that stage.

TheJanuaryProject Fri 11-Jan-13 19:16:42

Oh sorry, napkin, just saw your earlier post to say you'd tried white vinegar.

TheJanuaryProject Fri 11-Jan-13 19:21:59

I noticed in your op that you're using an extra rinse cycle. Do you still get some suds at the end of the first wash? If so, you could still reduce the amount of washing powder. Although I said I used half the recommended washing powder I probably use even less than that. I do most things on a gentle cycle too (though not towels, bedding etc).

napkin Fri 11-Jan-13 23:28:53

How much washing powder would you say to use? I do use the extra rinse as modern machines don't seem to rinse that well. Some clothes do seem to have residue or smell strong of detergent at the end of the wash. I don't know if it is the powder at thought as my old machine was fine? This is why i think maybe there is more friction on the clothes from less water being used in new machines or maybe less water needs less powder? If using fabric conditioner how much does everyone use? Are these new machines you all own or older models? Do you separate cottons, synthetics, delicate's or wash all together? I will take a look at that white wonder, thanks.

PigletJohn Sat 12-Jan-13 00:17:31

Are you using the amount of powder/liquid recommended on the box or bottle, or some other amount?

What are these clothes made of that you are throwing away? I have only seen pilling on synthetic fleeces.

napkin Sat 12-Jan-13 13:46:55

I use the amount shown for hard water as i live in a very hard water area. I only use the least amount possible the box tells me for hard water or just two powder tablets. I have had to throw all sorts of fabrics away including cotton. The worst material i have found to pile is my sons jogging bottoms and things like jumpers and wool.

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 16:35:31

It's hard to say how much I use, I just kind of judge it iyswim. Definitely no more than half the amount recommended for my water area. Newer machines need a lot less powder I think and regular powder is much easier to reduce than tablets.

Re: the strong detergent smell, I find that fabric softener leaves a very strong smell (MIL uses it, and sometimes washes DS's clothes when he stays over). I know you said white vinegar didn't stop the bobbling of your clothes, but unless the conditioner is noticeably more effective at softening I'd be tempted to switch back to vinegar and drastically reduce how much powder you use. If you do a wash with half the recommended powder, check for suds at the end, and if you're still getting them reduce some more. Soda crystals can be added in for really dirty clothes, towels etc. if nothing else, you'll save money on detergent, cut out the extra rinse cycle thus saving energy costs and hopefully prevent that strong detergent smell! grin

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 16:36:29

Oh and my machine is newish, not an old one.

napkin Sat 12-Jan-13 17:25:39

I will try reducing the powder even more and see what happens, i think i will stick to conditioner as it makes things a whole lot softer. What machine do you have TheJanuaryProject? Do you separate all your clothing you wash?

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 19:30:47

I do separate washing. Quite religiously by colour, but not so much by fabric type as I do most clothes on a gentle wash (i.e the one with a line under it) at 30. Towels/sheets at 40 or 60. Ours is a hotpoint machine. Good luck with reducing the powder.

napkin Sat 12-Jan-13 19:47:33

Sorry for so many questions TheJanuaryProject but what model is your hotpoint? Do you wash cottons and clothes with two lines under it on the delicate cycle too?

WhateverTrevor Sat 12-Jan-13 19:52:12

If your ds has eczema then won't fabric conditioner make it worse?
I was told washing towels with clothes makes them bobble.

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 19:54:19

I have no idea what model. I have a one line setting which is used for most things, but I also have a two line setting for stuff that has two lines. Basically, I never was hotter than the label and often cooler, and if something doesn't have a line I will probably wash it on the single line setting.

napkin Sat 12-Jan-13 20:19:55

He only has very slight eczema so as long as i don't use anything too highly perfumed it is fine. Yes i heard that about towels, i do all my towels on a hotter wash. So you mainly use the synthetic cycle for one line items (synthetics) and wash no line (cottons) on this too and everything else with two lines on delicate? Does everyone wash with a full load in the machine?

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 20:43:38

Pretty much, as these are the shortest washes on my machine bar the specific fast wash setting.

TheJanuaryProject Sat 12-Jan-13 20:45:12

Oh and the load size varies. I reduce the washing powder a bit more if it's not a full load.

HiccupHaddockHorrendous Sat 12-Jan-13 21:19:12

I have a newish machine. I think I've had it about a year but haven't noticed a difference in my clothes. All colours go on at 40 and whites, bedding and towels go on at 60. I use 'Simple' tab-things but no fabric conditioner as DS also has mild eczema. I do tumble dry about 50% of the time with no obvious deterioration to clothes.

I tried washing at 30 but found that it wasn't hot enough so dissolve the wash tabs properly and the clothes would come out with power on. Also, at 30 my clothes weren't coming out very clean either so 40 is the minimum that I wash.

AlbertaCampion Sun 13-Jan-13 09:59:06

Sorry - just seen earlier question about soap nuts. There shouldn't be any need to use fabric con, as a lot of what it does is about dissolving laundry detergent residue left on clothes fibres. But I condition anyway, using white vinegar in the washing machine fabric conditioner compartment.

permaquandry Sun 13-Jan-13 10:02:59

I had this problem until I started using more gentle cycles and a gentler spin, I have a Bosch. I used to have an AEG (bought 13 years ago) and I loved it. I would recommend AEG above all others.

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 14:29:12

HiccupHaddockHorrendous what machine do you have? Do you put everything on a 40 cotton wash or use separate cycles at 40? I looked at AEG permaquandry but i think all the old machines washed a lot better than these new eco machines. Doe's anyone wash new items of clothing separately?

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 14:31:23

Thank you everyone for your help and advice.

stargirl1701 Sun 13-Jan-13 14:36:32

AEG are fab.

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 15:11:29

Do you have a new AEG machine stargirl1701?

PigletJohn Sun 13-Jan-13 15:12:19

AEG used to be an upmarket German maker, but went bust. The brand-name (and others) was bought by Electrolux, in the same way that Indesit bought the Cannon, Hotpoint, Arisoton, (and many other) brand names.

A lot of brands are actually made by a small number of big companies.

Older machines used to use much more water, and washed at higher temperatures.

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 15:29:41

Never had any problems with older machines.

HiccupHaddockHorrendous Sun 13-Jan-13 16:09:23

I have an indesit. Not sure of the model number but it has a 9kg drum and cost around £350. I'm not quite sure why we got such a big size and probably wouldn't choose one as big again because it takes ages to get enough colours or whites/towels/bedding to fill it.

I live in a rented house and the machine that was here up until last year was also an indesit and had been here for approx 17years.

I'm not sure which 40 cycle I use...I don't think I knew there was more than one choice blush...I'll go and have a look

stargirl1701 Sun 13-Jan-13 16:36:49

My AEG is probably 6 or 7 years old.

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 16:51:36

I think it is the last 5 years that washing machines have become worse.

napkin Sun 13-Jan-13 16:55:05

Does anyone separate their clothes by material? I hate large drums too, even with 5 of us i find it hard to fill.

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