If I get shiny porcelain tiles through most of the ground floor will I regret it?

(51 Posts)
MyPod Thu 06-Oct-11 16:21:56

Will they be permanently smeary?

Will one of them crack immediately and we will have to put up with it because its too expensive to replace?

Will I be either cold or bankrupt from the underfloor heating costs?

We used to have carpet but it always looked filthy, we now have laminate which is and looks cheap and has bits chipped out if it. DH really wants shiny tiles and technically its his turn to choose. We have to pick something and we both like the shiny tiles. Woman in tile shop said don't get ceramic in such a big area in case they crack. The only ceramic sample we have has cracked. I have 3 dcs under 10 and I don't want them to break the floor their necks on a slippery floor.

bibbitybobbityhat Thu 06-Oct-11 16:24:27

Yes.

Do you have a link to the tiles? Why do they crack easily?

I wouldn't do it in the UK because I think it will be freezing.

I wouldn't worry about cracking/slipping etc, it is common practice in Oz, Turkey and Greece and I'm sure lots of other places too (I just happen to have seen it there).

What about real wood or cork tiles?

MyPod Thu 06-Oct-11 16:38:40

Ceramic cracks easier than porcelain because its more porous and not as dense, apparently.

I like real wood but DH not so keen and there is no way I am going to be able to sell cork tiles to him. He gets his interior design ideas from episodes of cribs. I'm more country life. There are people all over the world walking about on tiles and not falling over so I shall stop worrying about that. I do worry about being cold and having to actually polish them.

MyPod Thu 06-Oct-11 16:39:24

bibbity can you expand? What will be my biggest regret?

Hmm cribs is all US and hot and housekeepers and come to think of it houses that people rarely actually live in.

I think it will be unbelievably cold in the winter unless you cover it all with big shaggy rugs.

RedRubyBlue Thu 06-Oct-11 16:56:43

I am currently replacing the tiles in my kitchen as they are bloody freezing in winter and yes they do look smeary.

If you do have your heart set on them then buy a few replacements if you do get cracks.

Yes, you will regret it. Everything you drop will smash (bottles of chilli sauce, expensive perfume - sob!) and the glass will travel further than you thought possible. They'll be freezing cold, and slippery when wet. They will crack when your DC throws his schoolbag down, and even if you have spares, you'll never get round to replacing the cracked ones.

Finally, when you want rid of them, everyone will tell you that they're almost impossible to lift and it will be really tricky to lay another kind of floor on top.

Can you tell how unhappy I am with mine? wink

MyPod Thu 06-Oct-11 17:14:29

"even if you have spares, you'll never get round to replacing the cracked ones."

How well you know me grin.

Well what should I get? Wood? Amtico?

FoxyRoxy Thu 06-Oct-11 18:33:03

We have marble and tile flooring though our whole house, but we live in a hot climate. In the uk I'd say unless you were getting underfloor heating not to do it as it'll be freezing in colder months.

What about laminate?

Mandy2003 Thu 06-Oct-11 20:07:07

Yes, yes and yes I would say. Would be lovely in a hot climate I imagine.

MyPod Thu 06-Oct-11 20:58:05

We would get underfloor heating if we get tiles but then there is the additional expense of running it.

I don't want laminate because it will be in the kitchen and bathroom as well as the hallway and 'study' and I don't want to be precious about people getting it wet. We have engineered wood in the kitchen and its split around the back door where it has been wet and its generally very worn out. We have a mix of carpet, laminate and engineered wood at the moment and I dislike them all individually and I dislike the bittyness of having so many different floors. What I want is tiles that aren't cold or hard hmm.

BoffinMum Thu 06-Oct-11 21:02:25

Why not get Junkers wood flooring? Much better in UK than tiles.

TheFidgetySheep Thu 06-Oct-11 21:04:44

We have tiles downstairs and they are wonderful. We have underfloor heating but never use it as underfloor insulation is so good.

We use a steam mop and they look as new every time they are cleaned.

Since getting rid of carpets, my asthma has gone.

They look clean and simple and streamlined, but they are textured rather than shiny.

BoffinMum Thu 06-Oct-11 21:39:35

Stone floors with underfloor heating look more stylish IMO

PelvicFloorOfAAAAARGHSteel Thu 06-Oct-11 21:45:53

I hate the tiled floors in our kitchen and bathroom, they're cold, slippery, everything breaks and I have better things to do with my life than scrub the grout (which is a total dirt magnet).

I want something which has no grout, cracks or holes which are impossible to clean. If it doesn't look hideous that will be a bonus. grin

DooinMeCleanin Thu 06-Oct-11 21:48:59

I have plain black shiny tiles in my kitchen and bathroom. They are the bain of my life. I hate them. They never, ever, ever look clean. Ever.

You have to use special no streak cleaner on them, which still streaks and god forbid you measure it slightly wrong and use too much cleaner, you might as well just not bother mopping. Once they dry streaky you can dry mop with a clean mop to remove the streaks but the very second someone so much as puts a toe on them there will be footprints all over them.

bibbitybobbityhat Thu 06-Oct-11 22:15:45

I just like wooden floors. Can't help it. If I had an unlimited budget, my ground floor rooms would all be wood floors, stairs and upper floors carpeted.

RachelHRD Thu 06-Oct-11 22:58:07

We have Karndean throughout downstairs and in wet rooms and I'm really pleased with it. Very practical - hardwearing, not cold underfoot, easy to clean and looks great. We have pitch pine downstairs and it looks good, has a wood grain texture and looks more like oak IMO.

patiencenotmyvirtue Fri 07-Oct-11 22:05:37

Step away from the shiny porcelain tiles.

In one rental we had, they were in the vast hall, dining area and kitchen. They were white and looked filthy as soon as I hung up up the mop.

In another rental the tiles were dark, slightly uneven in texture to look like stone. Fabulous. didn't show the dirt at all <slut emoticon>
I've never thought about the cold factor underfoot, but there was no underfloor heating and Melbourne winters get pretty chilly.

In our newly-bought house there's a mix of carpet, which is excellent for absorbing the sandy dog paw marks, and hardwood in the kitchen and family room. Nice to look at, but needs constant sweeping.

When we get rid of the tired carpet, I'll be campaigning for more.

hester Fri 07-Oct-11 23:19:37

I wouldn't consider this, tbh. I think shiny tiles throughout can look great in a hot climate. Not what I'd fancy for cold winter evenings.

I think you can't beat wooden flooring with big cosy rugs.

valiumredhead Sat 08-Oct-11 15:31:52

The slightest drop of water and you will be skidding all over the place!

I have stone tiles in the kitchen and hall and they are freezing so you will need underfloor heating or big rugs.

Ixia Sat 08-Oct-11 22:50:19

We have matt porcelain in the kitchen. They are easy to clean, don't look smeary and are v. robust - we've dropped the iron on them and knocked over wooden stools, no chips yet, but the iron is knackered! They are bloody freezing though, but so is the whole house, so we're used to it.

Step away from gloss porcelain though. Our tile supplier advised against them if you have small children or pets - they are lethal when wet. A friend has just injured herself on hers and my mil who is disabled is terrified of visiting the other daughter in law as she finds her tiles so slippery.

Ixia Sat 08-Oct-11 22:56:30

My Mum has just had wood look Karndean put down in her lounge, I was a bit hmm in a snobby way at the idea of it. But it looks fab, isn't cold or noisy. Mum even bought a rug, so DD had somewhere to sit to play, but she's happy to sit on the Karndean. Also it's cut down on dust hugely.

HSMM Sat 08-Oct-11 23:00:42

We love our tiles downstairs, but they do crack and they are slippery and you can't drop anything, because it will break. I don't like our cheap laminate upstairs, but I love the really good wooden floor we have in our conservatory.

ninedragons Sat 08-Oct-11 23:09:33

There are some really chic cork tiles around at the moment - it's no longer those ginger-coloured 30cm squares one used to see in the 80s.

We have cork in our kitchen and laundry and I would never get anything else - it's warm underfoot, quiet, things don't break when you drop them. We had a marble kitchen floor in our last place and compared to that, the cork is just wonderful.

Ixia Sat 08-Oct-11 23:14:06

Porcelain tiles are more robust that ordinary ceramic tiles.

porcelain/ceramic differences

cece Sat 08-Oct-11 23:23:09

I have tile effect Amtico.

Many people have been fooled into thinking they are real tiles.
They are warm underfoot
Not too bad if things are dropped on them.
Easy to keep clean - the mottled effect is very forgiving grin

Although they have scratched a bit where furniture has been. ie. dining room chairs.

Overall though I would get again.

Bunbaker Sun 09-Oct-11 15:14:11

We have ceramic tiles in our ensuite and the room always feels cold and it is cold underfoot. There is no way I would have them anywhere else in the house.

homeaway Sun 09-Oct-11 16:25:18

On the continent it is usual to have tiles throughout the house. Shiny tiles will be slippery and will probably crack. If you go with tiles I would advise getting good quality ones, there are lots of them out there . Kitchen and bathroom tiles are often non slip so that you dont fall over. I would advise going to a tile specialist and getting their advice.

peachybums Sun 09-Oct-11 21:54:35

We had dark tiles which were slightly textured in the kitchen/hallway in our old house and i loved them as they were easy to clean up with the kids and the cat with muddy paws. The only downside was yes, everything you drop will break and they were very cold in winter! I had to buy DCs slipper socks so when they came downstairs they didnt get cold toes. If you have a dog or cat stay away from the shiney tiles i bet they will be a nightmare! We live in Yorkshire.

PJFanClub Mon 10-Oct-11 23:59:52

If you are going with underfloor heating then tiles are the perfect conductor. Personally I would go for something textured with a non-uniform colour so that slip hazards are minimised and dirt/dust won't show up so much. Maybe something like this?

MrsDreadfullyMorbidMausoleum Tue 11-Oct-11 00:12:51

Our home in the UK has amtico with underfloor heating as am complete heat junkie and is pretty good.

Currently in Aus in a rental with a mixture of tile, carpet and heavily varnished wood. The tiles are dark grey good for dirt but flipping freezing. The wood is in the kitchen and looks lovely but needs vacuuming every day : crumbs. Lots and lots of crumbs.

Plus, if you do the whole downstairs in shiney tiles it could end up looking like this hmm

MyPod Tue 11-Oct-11 13:33:15

Right, I'm going to take another look at amtico.

We dh def want something that looks like/is tiles rather than something that looks like/is wood.

DH has found a marble tile he is going to bring home to add to our collection of samples. He reckons its not shiney and has a bit of texture. He doesn't want too much texture as he has non slip ones at work and spends ages cleaning them every night with a deck brush.

We do have a filthy cat.

Thanks for all the help.

bigTillyMint Tue 11-Oct-11 13:36:28

MIL had porcelain tiles in her kitchen. Showed every bit of dirt and were very slippery when wet.

She now has slate tiles like us hmm

Bunbaker Tue 11-Oct-11 13:40:18

I also think that porcelain tiles on an entire floor of a house would look a tad clinical or (whispers, like a public toilet)

Poledra Tue 11-Oct-11 13:44:46

We have ceramic tiles in the kitchen (mat,, sluight texture). One is shattered into tiny bits where a jar of honey fell on it (currently covered in electrical tape to prevent anyone cutting their feet). They are freezing in winter (but lovely and cool in summer). We don't have spares as they were already laid when we bought the house. I cannot face having to take out the kitchen cupboards to get a new floor laid - yes, the previous owners fitted the (badly laid-out) kitchen on top of the tiles.

On the upside, my SIL and I POSL when her dog came flying into my kitchen, couldn't make the turn on the tiles and ended up going head-on into the cupboard grin It was the look of confusion on his face <smirking just remembering it>

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Tue 11-Oct-11 13:53:01

What about something rubbery or modern lino? Not cold, easy to keep clean, doesn't mind getting wet, softer than tiles and you can choose the look you want.

MyPod Tue 11-Oct-11 20:22:04

Lieins I would if it were just the kitchen but its the hallway too and I'm not sure lino would be ok there. I have seen some nice funky linos but its difficult to pull off funk in a hallway for any length of time and non funky would just look cheap. I like resin floors but I think that might be taking things too far.

HauntForTheBeast Fri 14-Oct-11 15:32:21

We are in Germany and have white tiles in hall, bathroom and kitchen; and wooden flooring everywhere else.

We also have rugs scattered around so it looks more cosy.

It's not cold. Well, not if you wear socks or slippers grin

V. easy to keep clean - quick hoover and a swish with a mop every couple of months. No problem with muddy, wet dog / doghairs on carpet, either.

I wouldn't have tiles everywhere (SIL has them entire downstairs and I think it's harder to feel cosy in tiled livingroom). But I do find them v. practical in certain areas.

Oh, and nobody, as far as I know, has ever slipped on our tiles.

FaffTastic Wed 19-Oct-11 21:15:35

I have black shiney porcelain tiles on bathroom floor - fecking nightmare. They always look smeary no matter how often I clean them and 3 have cracks in them. Non porcelain hall and kitchen tiles on floor are fine. If you have heart set on tiles, don't go for shiney porcelain IMO!

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AlwaysReadyForABlether Sun 07-Apr-13 08:16:58

Oh no I wish I hadn't read this thread.
I have just taken delivery of a load of ceramic tiles for my kitchen, hall and downstairs loo!

Graciescotland Sun 07-Apr-13 08:29:56

I once had high gloss ceramic tiles they had to be buffed after washing to stop them looking smeary; essentially they looked clean for the hour after the cleaner had been in before we started dinner.

It's not high gloss but we've got a sandstone floor with under floor heating been in five years and nothing has cracked or broken yet;feels lovely to walk on.

I have shiny white porcelain tiles and live in the UK, with 3DC and 5 dogs.

They are more work, sealing them and I steam mop 1-2 times daily. Everything dropped will smash, but ours lead off the garden and aren't noticeably slippy.

They heat up quickly (we don't have underfloor heating), I normally stick an oil heater on in the room, mop and the heat stays in the tiles, dries quickly and keeps them from turning cold to touch.

The room is big but has lots of natural light so that probably helps keep it warm. In the morning it can be alittle bit chilly, but I luffs them too much to notice.

Speedos Sun 07-Apr-13 09:09:03

We have matt porcelain tiles in our open plan kitchen area and they are fab. Although we do have underfloor heating it hardly ever kicks in as it is a very warm south facing room with large windows. We have no cracks and had them a couple of years, they are large 60x60cm.

We have wood in the rest of the house and I've never found that to be cold either ( we do live in UK). I love not having any carpet and would always get tiles or wood again.

AlwaysReadyForABlether Sun 07-Apr-13 13:57:04

I have bought semi-gloss black ceramic tiles for the kitchen and downstairs loo. And the same tiles in beige for the hall. The colours are slightly mottled so hopefully won't show the dirt too much.
The kitchen has horrible cheap laminate in it just now and the loo has wood effect lino so the tiles must be an improvement. There is carpet in the hall just now it always look dirty. I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of warmth for something easy to clean.

PigletJohn Sun 07-Apr-13 16:20:31

many people in countries outside UK have apartments, or houses with basements, so the floors are not very cold.

In the UK, the ground floor is usually pretty cold, and since warm air rises, radiators etc will not warm it, but cold draughts will cool it.

armagh Sun 07-Apr-13 18:22:03

Is Karndean like Amtico?

EddieVeddersfoxymop Sun 07-Apr-13 19:07:17

We considered gorgeous sparkly black tiles for our extension.......until the saleswoman herself told me they are a nightmare. They'd fitted them into a display building and couldn't keep them clean. We decided against it given that we were actively told they would be a bad choice.

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