If you can't reheat rice...

(89 Posts)
Meringue33 Thu 08-Nov-12 21:46:19

...Does that mean you can't reheat rice soup?

amazingmumof6 Tue 13-Nov-12 10:51:55

about my mum I meant to say BLESS HER! <not less her, damn you stupid keys sticking!>

amazingmumof6 Tue 13-Nov-12 10:49:51

"clean dirt" and "biscuit bugs"

bwahahaha!

funny how I could be doing the right thing without knowing it just by copying older generations habits...
...my mum will be happy to hear she did after all did teach me something useful! (I always challange her, less her...)

ethelb several people have already pointed out what you said, but I guess some of us just jump in without reading through - inlcuding yourself?

anyway, no harm in repeating sound advice! smile

AmberLeaf Tue 13-Nov-12 10:03:55

Yum biscuit beetles!

Extra protein I say grin

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 10:00:21

ElizaDay, that is interesting about washing to get dirt out. I only think about washing before cooking in terms of starch and stickiness. Now you mention the dirt it's no surprise. Boiling dirt gives you - clean dirt! (That's what I learnt in primary school after finding residual jelly on a water glass - clean dirt!)

it is interesting, for the strong stomached, what is really in food, especially the unwanted extras. (One day, if feeling mischievous, I'll start a thread about biscuit beetles).

To cool rice, I put it in a shallowish dish and place in a sink surrounded by cold water. Leave a couple of minutes then change the water for ice cold again. I repeat this several times then once the rice is cold, put in fridge. The cold running water method is a safe way too. I just do it the other way by preference!

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 09:45:14

Amazingmum you've never had a problem because you're doing the right thing.

It is very rare. There is no immunity.

ethelb Tue 13-Nov-12 09:38:21

I hate these thread. People miss the point. It's not that you can't reheat rice it is that it doesn't matter if it is 'piping' hot when you eat it as the heat makes no difference.

It is v rare to have a bad batch in this country as our rice is stored properly.

The more important point is to not eat old rice. I don't leave cooked rice more than 2 days.

Gentleness Tue 13-Nov-12 09:34:45

Food poisoning from rice is vile. I had it when traveling in India and ignorantly choosing fried rice dishes as a safe option. It was vile for over 2 weeks. And after recovering had bouts where it seemed to reoccur for nearly 2 years. Either the bacteria was lingering somehow or it had made me more vulnerable.

The only food experience worse than that was eating dodgy chicken, but while that was grim, once the illness was over, it was over. I'm not fussy about food, but I'd not risk anything with rice. If it's not gone in the fridge within 30mins of being cooked, it gets binned.

amazingmumof6 Tue 13-Nov-12 09:11:34

I've had left rice out all night before several times, by accident mind you, and also have used cooked rice after storing it in fridge for up to 3 days -this is definitely news to me!

never had any problems either, ever, but I'll try to follow your advice and thank you for explaining it!

btw I've always used cold running water to quickly cool rice not eaten immediately, as did my mum and grandma, but only out of habit and for practical reasons: to avoid the grains to stick, plus I don't want to put hot rice in the fridge or freezer!

I wonder why we've never got ill - is it rare to have a "bad batch"?
or could I have been ill from it as a kid, but then developed immunity (same as jabs) ?

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 09:11:05

It is starting to feel that way!

vintageviolets Tue 13-Nov-12 08:56:59

Very grin

You have saved me from dying of boredom, which is probably worse than death by food poisoning!

thanks

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 08:53:40

Helpful that I've summarised then smile

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 08:52:28

The washing out dirt discussion is addressing a separate issue but appears to have become confused with the food poisoning one recently.

vintageviolets Tue 13-Nov-12 08:51:58

Couldn't be bothered to read it all.

lottiegarbanzo Tue 13-Nov-12 08:50:33

Yep, it's the cooling, not the reheating that's the issue.

Vintageviolets, if you read the thread, you'll understand why reheating these prepared rices is a non-issue. They'll have been cooled properly after cooking.

Sometimes takeaway rice, or rice cooked at home, is left out at room temperature for too long, allowing bacteria to exude indestructible poison, before being reheated. That can be a problem.

XBenedict Tue 13-Nov-12 08:33:43

You can reheat rice (once) you must cool it after initial cooking as soon as possible and limit the amount of time it spends at room temp - that's what I was led to believe anyway.

EIizaDay Tue 13-Nov-12 08:29:50

Culturemulcher - put it this way. If you washed your dirty clothes in water without changing the water do you think they'd be clean?

As well as having seen rice being 'processed' in India I used to go to Indian cooking classes given by an Indian lady. Every week she'd tell us to make sure we washed the rice thoroughly (not just a swoosh about in the pan). It was many changes of water and sort of massaging smile the rice to get it clean.

vintageviolets Tue 13-Nov-12 07:11:46

All of the Chinese/Indian rices in tesco that are pre-cooked in tubs or sachets instruct you to cook for 2 mins in the microwave or stir fry.

I've always been fine.

Oblomov Tue 13-Nov-12 07:07:30

You have to be very careful , because people get the wrong idea:
CountBapula: "It's annoying because risotto is something DS will reliably eat so I'd like to keep some in the freezer for him but I don't because I'm worried about the reheating thing."

Now we have someone not going to feed their ds frozen risotto.
Hardly what the aim is, is it?

AmberLeaf Tue 13-Nov-12 07:04:32

Some people wash their rice before cooking, to remove the starch, which gives a different textured rice. Again nothing to do with cleaning it

Sorry, but no, it is to do with cleaning as well as ensuring it isn't a big starchy mess.

omletta Tue 13-Nov-12 06:44:01

No boiling doesn't kill this bacteria as it has spores ( think of these as bacterium in heat proof coats).

The water is nothing to do with washing the rice, it's to do with cooing it quickly to make it safe by taking it out of the dangerous temperature zone.

Some people wash their rice before cooking, to remove the starch, which gives a different textured rice. Again nothing to do with cleaning it.

culturemulcher Mon 12-Nov-12 22:25:57

Um, Eliza why wouldn't it clean it? It's been boiled for 10 mins. That's going to kill pretty much anything, surely?

EIizaDay Mon 12-Nov-12 07:48:17

Selks Given that rice is cooked in boiling water for 10 mins minimum I don't worry about the washing too much

Gads. So you think cooking unwashed rice in boiling water is going to clean it shock

lottiegarbanzo Sun 11-Nov-12 23:08:25

The way I see this, it's an easily avoidable risk, with no thrill or benefit to taking the risk, so I'll choose to avoid it.

Very similar to the risk of babies being infected by the bacteria that can be in formula and the option to reduce this by using water at at least 70c. That's also a very tiny risk with very (slightly more) serious consequences if it happens. It's a little bit faffier to avoid but, over all, a very similar type of choice.

steppemum Sun 11-Nov-12 22:35:04

I used to live in Indonesia. Rice is staple diet. Most houses don't have fridges.

This was quite normal - cook rice for breakfast and use through day. Go to lunch/party and rice is on side at room temp. Has been there since cooked. Most buffets were served at room temp. Most houses use last nights rice fried up for breakfast. (no fridge)
Maybe room temp was so hot the bacteria didn't multiply grin

Now I know the science about the bacteria, but since I lived there I have never worried too much. Cook, eat, put left overs in fridge. Maybe not straight after dinner, maybe after kids have gone to bed (so 2 hours since cooked) Reheat till piping hot. May not eat within 24 hours.

I am much more wary of take away rice.

I know - shoot me.

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