Job Hunting Support Thread

(228 Posts)
lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 09:48:03

For everyone seeking work who wants to share, have a natter, is in need of advice, or even just after a bit of sympathy.

I actually have some paid work this week, filling in for lunchtime supervision up at the primary school. But it's not exactly my long term ambition.

Everyone welcome, Please sign in and share what your job hunting targets & plans are this week smile.

belindarose Tue 22-Jan-13 09:52:53

I'm tentatively beginning to think about it! DS is 6 mo and I'm not ready to leave him yet, but if the ideal opportunity arose I would go for it. I haven't worked much since DD was born 3.5 years ago. We moved then so I didn't have my own job to return to. Have done some part time bits and pieces before DS.

Maternity allowance is finishing so need to sort out job seekers allowance now. I guess that's this week's plan.

What field are you looking at? I'm special education. Hoping in not too out of date.

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 10:05:37

I've been out of my old profession 8.5 years (not counting the 6-18 unpaid months I spent finishing up papers for publication), I'm looking at starting from the bottom in a related field. Training may indeed be required (argh).

pinkje Tue 22-Jan-13 12:11:09

I'll join you please. I'm thinking about applying for a job for the first time in 15 years. I have had children and lived overseas so I hope my non-working gap of 12 years won't appear too ridiculous. It is an online application too so I hope my broadband doesn't let me down.

bee169 Tue 22-Jan-13 13:45:44

Belinda, could you PM me if you are in London? I am looking for someone to do work with my son ASD. As soon as I get some work myself we will be looking to get someone experienced to support him on a saturday morning/afternoon and do work with him.

Let me know

Snowydrift Tue 22-Jan-13 14:08:44

I've been looking for 2.5 years now and finally got offered a job only to have to turn it down because I was pregnant with DC2 (they wanted someone to cover for a maternity break starting the month she was due). I've never had a "proper" job - had DC1 just after finishing uni, then went on a 9 month work experience placement and then had DC2. They're both happy(ish) at crèche now but I have no job to pay for it! Rejections are you have no experience/you are too qualified/you should be at home with the children hmm / we only want full-time employees/your application was excellent, but we found someone better.
I want to go into a related but different field to my degree but just finding any job seems impossible.

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 14:37:28

How old is your youngest now Snowy? Could you do any volunteer work just to get a recent reference, something to put on your CV.

I decided to try to fill in the apparent gaps on my CV with volunteer jobs I've done, but then realised there wasn't much in last 3 years.

I saw an ad for a customer researcher, with special duties of being an advocate for IT throughout the organisation, for a housing trust about 17 miles away I can do the research, but would be rubbish at trying to persuade everyone else to love IT solutions. Still, it gave me an idea to volunteer for a nearby housing trust. If they don't already have a data analyst I'd like to be one for them, even if it's voluntary to start. so my current plan is that in absence of anything better, I can try to pick up that volunteer experience to put down on the CV.

Someone suggested gumtree but all the jobs I see there are the worst kind of work-from-home low pay sales jobs. I have toyed with contacting a temp agency, but I don't have guaranteed childcare, not so sure.

Snowydrift Tue 22-Jan-13 16:26:15

Youngest is now 10 months. I've no real voluntary work experience and in my field it doesn't really exist! I do run a Playgroup, but that's not really relevant to the industry.

I'm sending off spontaneous applications now, but it all seems too fake. What do you give as a reason for applying to the firm when in actual fact you are only applying on the off chance they might have something and mainly because its just down the road so would be convenient? All the "I'd like to be part of such an innovative company". bla bla seems ridiculous when written down.

I agree about those type of work from home jobs...the whole reason I want a job is to get out of the home. Plus which with the two of them, work at home would be a joke!

LillethTheCat Tue 22-Jan-13 16:41:02

Oooh can I join as I am currently out of work, but trying to get back into work.

I had a good job, but in 2008 I was made redundant. I decided to take some time out with my family (I had 3YO DS and 6MO DD1). I did have a few temp jobs, but after my last one I found I was pregnant with DD2. When she was 4 weeks we decided to move.

So now DD2 is 16 months old and we have been living in our new area for 10 months. I have applied for jobs, but like above I have always been told that there was someone with more recent experience or had better qualifications. Ive always impressed at interviews, there just has been one person who has been better than me.

I went to a job fair back in August and was speaking to a woman from the council about adult learning, so now I am doing 3 courses. 2 of which I know, but I figure that it will give me recent 'experience' I am lacking and it will improve my CV. The other course is something Ive always wanted to do, but didn't think Id be able to (as its £700 for the course I didn't think they did funding for that type of course and there was no way Id be able to afford it).

Im hoping that these 3 courses will show any possible employers that I want to improve my situation and not just sitting around doing nothing. I keep looking out for work and have applied to a few jobs, but getting nowhere.

One of my courses includes work experience for 6 months or so, so Im hoping that will also give me recent experience and may give me a reference as well. Though I am a bit worried that I will get treated like a teenager. I know what I am doing as I have done it before, just not since 2008.

I am trying to get back in the office BTW esp in Accounts type of role.

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 16:42:26

Lileth who is funding your adult learning courses?

LillethTheCat Tue 22-Jan-13 16:44:13

Im not sure to be honest lljkk They are through the council so I assume the government. I feel bad saying that, but I think that by doing this I am more likely to get a job so can start paying my taxes again and give something back.

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 16:52:45

Oh if you can get course fee paid, then do! It's better than us claiming JSA forever. I was told that funded adult learning courses aren't available to people who already have ni degrees, though, even if the degrees were obtained abroad with no British funding.

LillethTheCat Tue 22-Jan-13 17:18:50

What does ni stand for?

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 17:44:39

Sorry, typo, that was supposed to be Uni as in University. (I'll use my cold hands as excuse)

belindarose Tue 22-Jan-13 17:46:29

Bee - thanks but I'm not near London.

I've got my first job seeking difficulty. I've seen a job I'd like to apply for. But how on earth do I organise child care around a potential (more like unlikely really) job? I'll need a part time nanny this time. When I did pt work after DC1 was born, she went to a childminder for 2 days. This time, she will need taking to and fetching from preschool (in a different village) and there's the baby too.

I know a nanny seeking work who I think would fit in well and childcare.co .uk has a few other local ones to try. But it's all so tentative, I don't know where to start (so will probably just procrastinate...).

searching4serenity Tue 22-Jan-13 17:49:22

Please can I join your group? Could do with the inspiration...

Returning to work after 18 months of relocating to a different area.

I also find the convenience aspect of a potential company to be key... And would feel insincere saying otherwise! But ppl expect that surely?

lljkk Tue 22-Jan-13 17:56:36

Belinda I wonder if you what you do is talk to the possible Nannies you know and ask if they are currently or in near future likely to be available in the way you might need. Ask them directly about costs and transport needs. It's a 5 minute conversation for them to make a good impression on you, if not for this job than for another that could do for you in future.

I guess there's tiny chance you could get the job and not find anyone to mind your child. It would be very annoying but not end of the world if you had to turn the job down after all (I'd probably lie and make up a different excuse other than childcare difficulties if I had to do that, though).

LillethTheCat Tue 22-Jan-13 19:20:40

Just been looking at eligibility for getting funded for adult learning courses. I know they are changing it slightly and instead of it being funded, it is going to be in the form of a student loan and so you would have to pay back once you are earning over a certain amount. But there was no mention about if you already had a degree or not. No-one asked me about that I dont think, just asked about proof of income/benefits.

I know that while I get it free I may as well and it does make sense, but I do feel guilty though.

Snowydrift Tue 22-Jan-13 20:09:34

Belinda- I second what lljkk said about childcare. You might find they have waiting lists (for the crèche that Dc is in it was a 1 year wait) so it won't hurt that they have you on the list even if you don't accept immediately.

1stMrsFrugal Wed 23-Jan-13 10:08:33

Hi I'm returning to work after a 4 year break and have twins who will be 4 in A few months. I don't want to go back to what I was doing (and anyway, DH is out of work and struggling to find work in this field as it is affected particularly badly by the recession). Have been applying for a specific type of job that my skills are transferable to, in a different sector.
My ideal would be part time so that I can be at home with the DTs after school, but as DH is out of work I am also looking at F/T. Don't know what we'll do if we both get a job, but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it and at least they will be in school from Sept, so that will help.

Only had a couple of interviews, but I think my applications and interview performance are getting better and better each time and I have a 2nd interview today <nervous> so I would say it's worth persevering. Also this interview is for a much more senior job than I have previously applied for, so it's not necessarily the case that the career break puts you back a level.

I do feel very rusty though! Giving examples of supervisory experience at the first interview was so hard when I could hardly remember that role of 5 years ago!!

Snowydrift Wed 23-Jan-13 13:36:24

Hope it goes/is going well! I would have thought 4 year old twins gives enough supervisory experience...

lljkk Wed 23-Jan-13 14:19:30

it's not necessarily the case that the career break puts you back a level

A level?, A level!?

I think in my case I'm all the way back to scratch. Starting from the very very bottom. Not thrilled with that but it is where I am.

Agree it's a long process, first I had to figure out what kind of jobs to target, then I had to figure out how they're advertised. Now I am trying to increasingly tailor my CV and write more and more convincing cover letters. Eventually that will lead to interviews & eventually those will lead to some kind of offer.

I feel encouraged that so many people have been looking so long, at least I know it's not "just me".

1stMrsFrugal Wed 23-Jan-13 21:10:58

I got the job!

lljkk I am so sorry to have just joined your thread and now I'm off, but hopefully it's an encouraging sign!

LOL Snowy - and crowd control!

MrsJamin Thu 24-Jan-13 07:07:52

Can I join? I have been taking a "career break" ever since DS2 arrived nearly 3 years ago but now he's going to be getting his 15 hours free childcare soon, and we are going to buy a new house, it's a good time to step up the jobsearch a bit more. My main issue is that there aren't any part time jobs in what I want to do. I am going to send out my CV to lots of companies I'd consider working for and see what they think - it can't hurt can it? So just brushing off my CV (*again*!) to be more skills-based.

1stMrsFrugal - well done! That's great news especially as it's for a more senior role.

Snowydrift Thu 24-Jan-13 08:48:28

Congratulations 1stMrsFrugal!

lljkk Thu 24-Jan-13 09:46:38

Oooh, well done Frugal! I'm only a teeny tiny bit envy envy.
You're right, you are good encouragement for rest of us.

Housing Trust doesn't want me to volunteer (boohoo).
I have applied to do office work (voluntary) for HomeStart.
I put a (part-time Office) work wanted Ad on Gumtree this morning.
I found a shelf-stacking job I would do for min. wage BUT it doesn't even cover childcare costs in term time (would be higher in hols, so never mind). Would be fine if the hours were slightly adjusted, argh.

this morning I am going to apply for a "Stroke Data Analyst" job at hospital. Rather a long shot, but I do have lots of bits of relevant background.

bee169 Thu 24-Jan-13 13:41:10

Congrat 1stMrs! Good for you smile Great that you got a senior role

kelly14 Thu 24-Jan-13 13:52:31

It will be 2 years in July since i have worked!!!! my dd is nearly 8!

I moved back from australia after being in an abusive relationship and after being hospilatised in oz for weeks after horrendous miscarriage and then developing a blood clot! it took me a long while to get over it and still having counselling now!

I live in parents house as they live abroad so only claim the bare min of tax credits, JSA and child benefit.

My sole problem is childcare!!! only 3 childminders in my village all fully booked. i cant afford to pay a retainer in the chance i do get a job.
I have had loads of interviews (all full time) and been offered job and having to turn down solely due to childcare (and then weeks later a place becomes available but when i call the position is filled Arghhh)
There is just no school hour jobs available, i literally apply for 60 plus jobs a week.

I have a good CV, have worked all over the world in large corporate firms, i have studied 'an introduction to law' since i have been home and
I am currently volunteering for Macmillan cancer suppport, setting up fundraising events in my local area and have enrolled for more short courses.

I have also just successfully changed my daughters school to an academy rated school in the next village and which has a before and after school care facility on site (7.30-6.30) so hopefully i will now be able to get full time employment very soon! fingers crossed.

Although i do plan on moving back to australia as soon as possible.

good luck everyone else.

May I join been doing min wage agency work just to bring some pennies in however yet again like last yr Royal mail work has dried up sigh appiled for 2 jobs this week finger crossed sigh

coffeekeepsmegoing Thu 24-Jan-13 14:01:40

Can I join in. I am hopeful some luck will rub off. In a 12 hr / week min wage job. Hoping to get back to my profession of 5 years ago pre 2 kids. Had an interview before Xmas & they're letting me know this week. Fingers crossed. The job is close by and 22 hours.

Fingers crossed coffee smile

I'm trying to get back to work after 20 years out. Yes that's right it's not a mistakes twenty years since I went on maternity leave with DD1

In that time I did go back to college and I graduated in 2011 with a degree in design but I am now looking for work with animals. I am realising I should have done an animal care qualification rather than design.
I went for an unsuccessful interview a couple of weeks ago and haven't heard back from my last application so that's not looking good.

My age is against me and the fact I am rather rubbish at interviews but I really want to be doing something I enjoy rather than something just for the sake of it. DD is also looking so we are comparing cover letters and application forms grin

Some of you are prpbably only just a few years older than the length of time I've been a SAHM sad
I wouldn't do it again. I won't be encouraging my DD's to be SAHM's. I consider my lack of career/jobs to be the one big disappointment in my life and it makes me feel useless and a failure.

congrats 1stMrsFrugal!

Oh i wouldnt say that youvecat im forty !! I did a degree to be off benfits when single mum graduted in 2010 sigh but i dont want to do teaching give me a filing system or a postroom and i would be a very happy unicorn

lljkk Fri 25-Jan-13 16:41:48

I'm on the wrong side of 40, too.
Homestart voluntary admin position already filled. sad
Very local manufacturer admin asst. job already filled (ad only came out 1 week ago!)
I'm applying for an admin job in a high school, today. Bet that one's filled, too [sulk]
I've somehow blundered onto Skillpages website, will paint it pretty, maybe even consider Linkedin.

I need to spray my house for pests, flog some stuff on Ebay, dozen other chores this weekend, but will get back to job hunting on Monday hopefully.

LillethTheCat Fri 25-Jan-13 16:57:59

congrats MrsFrugal hope some of your luck rubs off on some of us.

Where are you all finding jobs to apply for? Im stuck now. Looked on Job center website which I now dont like. Also Monster, Gumtree (with their lovely work from home roleshmm local paper, council websites etc.

Do you think I should hold off a while till Ive done my work experience for 6 months or so or should I keep looking? If I get this work experience sorted it will give me the recent experience, plus hopefully a reference neither of which are a bad thing. Though its not paid work and Im living on benefits which is no good for anyone. What do you think?

I use indeed website on the plus side it shows if the job as been adveristed in a few places. i find the site easy to use

lljkk Fri 25-Jan-13 19:07:55

Gumtree homework ads are foul, agreed! But I know someone who got her dream job thru Gumtree.

Mostly I just use Google. Which gets me onto

Reed, Indeed, local paper, job centre, county council, district council, LEA schools website, NHS, Monster, Trovit, Hays. I have an email saved with links to various local places I am half hopeful about, including my ex-employer, schools, some charities. So I can just click thru the links quickly once a week see if anything new has come up.

1stMrsFrugal Fri 25-Jan-13 20:56:07

Thank you all your congratulations, it's very kind of you.

Here are some websites that a friend recommended for part time jobs. I think they are a bit South East centric so might not be useful for everyone, but hopefully for some.

http://www.workingmums.co.uk/

http://tentiltwo.com/

I talked about my volunteer work a lot in my interview so I think that was very useful.

Good luck everyone!

Snowydrift Tue 29-Jan-13 12:08:27

Right, I've applied for a job that is probably utterly unsuitable for me but DH wanted me to apply so that's done. I'm today writing an application for one that sounds great, but is 80-100%. Some people (recruiters) have told me I need to be up front about only wanting to work 60% and others have told me not to mention it in the covering letter. I've had no luck being honest, so I have decided to see what happens if I just don't state in the letter what % I want to do.
The job I really wanted to get has just come back with a "your application left an excellent impression but we are sorry to inform you that you have not made the selection for interview because there were other applicants who were a better match for our criteria. We hope that your career develops to your satisfaction and wish you great success". AGAIN.

I am now putting Gladiator on the speakers in an attempt to inject some fighting spirit into the next letter so DH can correct it tonight and I can send it on.

lljkk Tue 29-Jan-13 20:25:41

lol @ Gladiator as therapy.

Snowydrift Tue 29-Jan-13 20:34:57

It sort of worked. Apparently only past of it was crap. He is furious because I made him waste his time correcting my atrocious grammar (they had a submission form for letter, cv etc then asked four question on the next page. Argh!) and has gone to bed. Well, at least my one application is submitted for today.

Snowydrift Tue 29-Jan-13 20:35:33

Clearly that should say part.

bee169 Thu 31-Jan-13 12:54:42

After a bit of an interview drought....I have 3 interviews lined up for next week! Wish me luck smile

LillethTheCat Thu 31-Jan-13 13:44:58

Hi all

Good luck bee hope a job comes your way soon.

Still no better off, though I have had a missed phone call from Mind (I applied to do some volunteering work for them) so I am going to listen to their message (when I get to a place with a good mobile signal) later and ring them back. I know its not paid, but it surely can't make my CV look any worse can it.

lljkk Thu 31-Jan-13 13:51:36

Good luck Bee, that sounds very promising indeed.

I think voluntary work experience is going to be key to me getting back in workforce, too.

Ah Nuts. I applied for 5 or 6 jobs today, but at least one of them I had a cover letter with typos in it (doofus). I was just typing the cover letter text into the relevant Box on Reed, didn't realise it didn't spell check for me at all (duh) until I copied it down to edit. Argh. Will look even worse if I reapply with corrected cover letter, won't it?!

Oh well, at least I didn't make the same typos on all the jobs applied for today. Lesson learned.

Talking to a friend last night I came to the conclusion that one way to get where I want is to first take certain types of finance assistant jobs, so those are most of what I've been applying for today. Luckily quite a few are part-time flexi hours, could be lovely.

My problem with getting any voluntary work now is that I can't regularly & reliably do that and be available for my temporary (bank staff) job. Don't feel like messing up my otherwise best-thing-going.

MrsJamin Thu 31-Jan-13 20:05:28

3 interviews in a week, Bee, that's impressive! Hope you get one that you like - you may get to choose if offered more than 1!

Voluntary work experience is a great idea. I think I may be doing some of that once DS2's 15 hours kicks in.

I'm doing a speculative CV mail-out of about 15 local companies I would like to work for- do you think there is a way of saying that I would especially like to hear if they have PT jobs or do you think this would heighten the chances of them getting back to me? I don't want to sound desperate, like saying I would take any hours they could offer!

lljkk Fri 01-Feb-13 13:38:26

Don't worry about desperate, I reckon, there are 20+ applications for most the jobs I'm looking at, so much competition, employers are used to desperate.

I think put a positive spin on it, along lines of:

I am flexible about contract duration and how many hours I work each week.

What do y'all reckon... when a job descrip says "Essential... knowledge of SORP", when SORP is just a policy & procedures document about reporting & accounting (available online, and up to individual organisations how they achieve it, anyway). How much "knowledge" do I need to meet the essential requirement? Do I apply anyway?

MrsJamin Fri 01-Feb-13 13:59:12

It sounds like you know a lot more about SORP than I do so I would go ahead! Good idea about sounding like I am the flexible one about how I could work for them - thanks.

LillethTheCat Fri 01-Feb-13 15:53:17

I think you should go for it. It sounds to me like something they might ask questions on it. If you can learn it (which you obviously can) then there is no reason why you dont have a knowledge of it.

lljkk Fri 01-Feb-13 16:07:45

okay, thanks smile.
Kids going mental at the moment, so not sure when I'll be able to concentrate, but will apply soon.

LillethTheCat Fri 01-Feb-13 16:37:00

Right so Ive just spoken to the lady regarding volunteering and I have to go in on Monday for a chat.

She said it was a chat about showing me what they did and how the office was laid out and to talk about current positions. So the big question is what do I wear? How do I treat it? Do I go along as though its an interview or do I go a bit more casual? WWYD?

lljkk Fri 01-Feb-13 16:55:40

Would it be helpful to treat it as interview practice? So fairly smart but without the pressure of a real interview.

Snowydrift Fri 01-Feb-13 20:12:58

Bee- three interviews - I'm actually jealous! Good luck

Lilleth - I think I would treat it as an interview. Do you know what the office dress code is? If so, then go slightly smarter, not too much else you'll look like you won't fit in. You don't want to wear a suit if they all wear jeans. But most importantly you need to wear something you feel good in and confident.

Lljkk, definitely apply. If they ask directly you can always say not used it but you've read it (take print out out of your folder) and you think that tis part you've had experience of in this situation, this bit in that situation and can see how this bit etc etc (and highlight some of it!)

I could actually cry. I am sitting in the bathroom avoiding a conversation because DH has "found a job for me to apply to". It's through a contact (hr) of girlfriend of a work acquaintance and the email of the job description has come through this chain of people to me saying to apply ASAP and I mustn't let the job description go any further (I assume its only been advertised internally). It is so far from what I actually want to do as to be laughable. I would hate to do this kind of job and I would be absolutely shite at it. DH knows what I want to do, he's read through enough job descriptions and corrected enough letters to know that I don't want to this kind of thing and what I do want to do. So either he just hasn't paid any attention at all or he wants me to apply and then he and al,his colleagues will know when I don't get the job and he can go ahead and tell me how crap I am and how no one will want to employ me because I couldn't even land myself this poxy job. He is however acting as if I should be eternally grateful to him for having found me this opportunity. Or maybe he just wants to plant a spy (company in question is his work's direct competition.) what the hell do I do? I can send an application, but there is absolutely no way I can blag my way through an interview. And even if I did, they'd fire me within the week. At what point to you apply for job you know you will hate? I feel like banging my head agains the wall. Seriously? This is him supporting me in a job search? What the hell do I do now?

LillethTheCat Fri 01-Feb-13 20:37:52

Snowy I would never apply for a job I hate. Id personally rather be living on benefits than work somewhere I am desperately unhappy, but other people might not be so willing to do that as at least its a job. Will your DH really tell you how crap he thinks you are if you dont get that job? If so then Im not sure if DH is the best person to be getting to help you apply for jobs. My advise is dont apply for it and just carry on looking yourself. Tell your DH that you dont like the sound of that job so you are not going to apply.

Right clothes-wise the top half is fine, a smart officey top, but do I wear trousers or jeans? I dont know what the dress code is. Someone else advised me to wear something smart a bit like something Id wear if I was meeting a friend for shopping. That would be jeans, Doc Martens and a smartish top (or a hoody depending on the friend), but I think that's a bit too casual. I think Im just going to go as though I was going to work there. Smart top, trousers and black boots. It is, after all, a meeting so I do need to be smart. A little bit of make-up will probably go on (even though I do actually never wear it). I did hear (I think it was on TV, but I can't be sure) a phrase "dress for the job you want not the job you have"

Thanks for the help

Snowydrift Fri 01-Feb-13 20:51:22

I would say then either v. dark jeans, but if you have them, just plain smart trousers.

I know, DH might not be the best person, but its that or MIL (and she's never worked, thinks my primary school should be on my cv!). I need someone to correct my grammar etc and as its DH's native language I have little choice. He regularly has a go at me for not having a job. But he will be furious if I don't apply especially as he's 'gone to so much trouble to get the details for me'. At a guess he'll also use it as a reason why we should take the children out of crèche (which of course will mean that even if I did get offered a job, I'd have to turn it down).

lljkk Fri 01-Feb-13 20:56:13

At what point to you apply for job you know you will hate?

Only if desperate for the money.
Sorry your DH is so unsupportive, maybe you need to make a case to him what starting job you actually need to get where you want to get to. Have you considered.... leaving the bastard? (ArAr; just shoot me for my black sense of humour).

Lileth I hate to say this, but I think a plain black skirt with black tights or black smart (probably polyester) trousers are the way to go. (Scanning my own wardrobe and noting lack of either, I will dash to charity shop if I get an interview).

I am completely hopeless at makeup but I am getting a hair cut this week (gasp shock horror if you all knew me IRL, last proper hair cut was circa May 2000).

Just applied for a job I think I'd quite like, I feel like I'm pouring heart and soul into these personal statements. Then I'll probably scupper my chances with a stupid typo (cringe).

lljkk Fri 01-Feb-13 20:58:45

ps: can you all please yell at me to go to bed & not start another application right now. I need a full day ahead to get a good version of it out.

drmummmsy Fri 01-Feb-13 21:04:46

can i play? hunting for job since phd graduation grin

although getting sloshed tonight though

Snowydrift Sat 02-Feb-13 03:52:25

Write the letter, leave it for an hour or two, then come back to it. Read it out loud if you can.
Hello drmummmsy, good luck with the search. What did you phd in?

lljkk Sat 02-Feb-13 11:13:08

What are you looking for, Drmummsy?

drmummmsy Sat 02-Feb-13 13:12:23

anything! has to be local though, can't relocate...

i've been applying for admin - mostly public sector civil servicey stuff, retail and research...

drmummmsy Sat 02-Feb-13 13:14:28

oh morning all! slightly late getting up ahem

thanks all, the phd was sociology...

lljkk Sat 02-Feb-13 14:03:35

What about admin position with a charity that has an interest in social issues? Might be a good way to angle it.

I've just applied for a job like that. I was reading about cover letters, what to do to make mine distinct. This time I've dispensed with the opening paragraphs about my work background, and instead went straight for the personal angle: why my background makes me interested in and appreciative of their charity aims. Then I moved on to saying how clever & competent I am. Worth a go.

LillethTheCat Sat 02-Feb-13 14:48:40

I did a degree in Sociology. Not done anything with it though. hmm

Was that the 57 applications and not a single reply thread lljkk I thought that was quite interesting. Im genuinely shocked at some of the people saying that they actually had applications in where people wrote U instead of you or made up words. I know on here I might slip in the odd spelling mistake or gramatical error, but Id never do it when applying for a job.

lljkk Sat 02-Feb-13 15:00:56

I resort to txt spk when actually writing texts. Takes forever to write, anyway.
I think the majority of application are just mediocre in their error production. Hope so, anyway.

Snowydrift Sun 03-Feb-13 11:00:55

And today there was a front page article in the Sunday newspaper about 3 children families...DH has always said he wants 3 but I have banned any discussion until youngest is 1 (which is only one month away shock) and he pointedly gave it to me to read. Of course, this would ally help me get a job hmm

Snowydrift Sun 03-Feb-13 11:20:00

I had a thought in the shower today...I used to work in a water company for a holiday job so have experience and there's always one close by. Would it be crazy to ring the local one and ask say "hello, my name is X, I am qualified to do this, I have experience in this. Would you have any part time positions available in your company?" They have no job openings according to their website, but do give an HR number.

LillethTheCat Sun 03-Feb-13 11:50:11

What did that article say? Or what paper was it?

Why not ring or write to them? That's how I got my first ever job, by writing to companies. It was only a part time job while doing my A Levels, but it worked for me. Also I thought the job centre encouraged you to write to companies?

pinkje Sun 03-Feb-13 22:46:36

I applied for a job, using their own online service (and 3 days before the deadline), got an email to say they had received it and when I check the status it says 'in process' - but the original posting said interviews would be held on 4 Feb which is tomorrow ; why have I not heard? Anyone else had similar?
To be honest I didn't think I stood much chance of getting an interview but their own guidelines say they let you know whether you are successful or not getting onto the shortlist. Should I phone them?

lljkk Mon 04-Feb-13 08:14:56

Wouldn't hurt to phone, a cheery "Please can you check on the status of my application?" request. Just because their guidelines say they do something means nothing about whether they actually do it (cynical gimmer here).

Another MNer was kind enough to go thru my CV and a sample cover letter to let me know better ways to rewrite it. Unfortunately all she did was irrefutably establish that I have no relevant recent experience at all for the types of posts I am applying for (darnit).

I suppose at least it's a good pointer for what I need to do next instead (voluntary admin jobs).

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 08:57:48

Oh fuck. They've asked me to come for an interview on Friday. And it seems it will be in French. Double fuck.

Will try and post a link to the newspaper later, I don't think they publish their front pages online, but there maybe a link to a related article. (Basically it was no 3 is the modern status symbol of city dwellers. Oh look, we can afford 3 kids...)

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 09:34:08
Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 09:38:20

Pinkje - definitely call them. Have your reference number ready, make sure you can see your cv and be ready to give them a good reason to call you for an interview. I was once told to stand up whilst calling as it makes you sound more energetic.

lljkk that's great you've got some feedback and know what you need to do. Don't let it put you off applying for jobs you want to do though, just because it's not recent doesn't mean that they will reject you for it.

I've just called the water company and the HR woman was incredibly rude and couldn't get me off the phone fast enough. so nothing available there sad

lljkk Mon 04-Feb-13 10:32:14

Oh dear (water company): just remember it's THEIR loss. Good luck at interview, Snowy, how weak do you think your French is? Just look at it as good practice.

I have thought of a few more things I can put down for recent experience (thank goodness).

I need to sit down when making phone calls, I already sound too scatty & disorganised. blush

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 10:53:59

My French is weak! I can manage general conversations, but no way would I be able to talk about work type things. Could be interesting.
I always think I'll probably trip over something and inadvertently swear if I walk around whilst on the phone.

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 10:54:46

Can I just ask what kind of things you're putting down as experience if you hadn't thought of them before? I'm wondering if there's anything else I can sneak into my cv.

lljkk Mon 04-Feb-13 14:23:08

What is the job, Snowy? Do you need fluent French to do the job itself?

Drawing on every job paid & volunteer I ever did, & keeping in mind that I am applying for admin jobs, I realised I could also claim experience at less obvious things:

invoicing
filing
project planning
grant funding applications
typing
receptionist duties (messages and phone calls)
taking minutes at meetings & distributing afterwards
Record keeping for tax-assessment purposes

What I haven't had to do is produce reports with ridiculously too little notice. I get the impression this happens constantly in some work places and many employers expect you to claim you enjoy working under high pressure sad. I don't have a book-keeping qualification (AAT) either.

today's plan is
Keep Applying for jobs like I am up until Easter
If no joy, go to temp agencies & see if they'll have me in the next school term (I always say yes when called, but only available restricted hours)
If no joy, seek a voluntary admin job come September
If no joy, pursue a book-keeping qualification next year and back to trying the above steps, too

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 14:41:39

It's in research and development and then taking the research into production. I have no idea if I need to be fluent in French to do the job, but the email they've sent me is in French so I'm assuming that at least the HR interview will be as well. I've done nothing today except get myself into a right state, I'm furious with myself for sending in this application and furious with DH for not being entirely honest about what the job was. (Ok, so maybe he didn't actually know, but he would have had a good idea). All that is going to happen is that I am going to make a right prat of myself in the interview and then he'll be angry with me.

I've found a job which would be great, although I only have 7.5 of the 8 criteria they want, I speak no Italian and I have no experience of the main criteria they want which is previous experience in the role. And my head is just running round in circles thinking about Friday and I've not been able to concentrate on writing a decent letter. I need to bang my head against a wall. And I'm sure if I ask DH for help he'll be all 'why are you applying for that, you can go to this interview and get this job' etc etc.

Sorry, I'm so fed up with the whole thing. It's so demoralising knowing that you spend all this time on these crappy applications just for them to turn round and say no.

lljkk Your plan seems great and I really hope all your work pays off. Re the pressure thing, what about an answer along the lines of no, it's not always enjoyable to work constantly under pressure, but some pressure is good and it encourages work etc (put a lot more eloquently than that!)

lljkk Mon 04-Feb-13 17:49:20

Hey don't panic, could you phone up and ask if fluent professional level French is necessary to do the job well? Make it clear you can chat but you wouldn't want to write a lot of research papers, maybe. I am thinking that in my research scientist days we often had colleagues who weren't that great in English, as long as they knew how to do the research they were in. Ditto in DH's work (programming).

ditto with the Italian job (harhar): Don't spend too much time on it, but put your application forward and say you're willing to learn Italian. (Where do you live with so many languages?! Switzerland?).

I'm glad my plan sounds great, I'm feeling very down this afternoon, actually. sad.

I just don't seem to have energy or time to get to focus on trying to make my applications better. And I hate putting insincere positive spin on things (like the pressure comment, however necessary spin may be). I am wondering if I should just leap straight to signing up with a temp agency (well, contacting them on last day of half term) because it's feeling so difficult to make any progress. Regular temp work would give me the recent experience I lack, anyway. I'm told that being available only 10am-2pm wouldn't preclude employment (am far from convinced, I can but ask). I am thinking that the longest I've been unwillingly unemployed was about 6 weeks (1986!) and signing up with a temp agency is what saved my sanity then, too. But I could work anywhere the bus got to, then, and any hours, not so easy now.

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 19:30:07

But at least if you sign on with a temp agency you can put on your cv:

Feb 2013 - present Admin assistant at X Agency

even if you don't get sent out on any placements. Then when someone sees your cv they'll (probably) assume that you are working and so have recent experience and should be more likely to call you for an interview where you can stun them with your excellent professionalism grin

I (with the help of a friend) have composed a written answer to the email inviting me for an interview. I decided that it couldn't hurt to go and to point out in my email that I can't do the job is foolish because maybe they could have something more suitable. So, I shall not give up, but I think I have to be honest that I can't do R&D. Not only have I been out of the loop too long, it is not the right job for me. You found me. I did not answer the question that I was asked - whether or not I was interested in the job - I merely said I would be delighted to meet with them. I suppose 830 is a bit too early for a glass of wine before hand though...

pinkje Mon 04-Feb-13 20:46:20

Thanks. I'll phone them tomorrow and I suppose I can ask why I wasn't invited to be interviewed.

Perhaps I should volunteer with the CAB though I heard a lot of their volunteers are suffering from stress ATM: what with everyone seeking advice now their benefits are being cut!

Good luck with the interviews you have lined up.

Rowgtfc72 Mon 04-Feb-13 22:21:03

Hi, can I pick your brains ? ! Dhs hours are changing from 2-10 to 6-2 2-10 rotating, working three Sats out of four one of the Fri is nights. Im going to have to leave my job of eight years as my hours are no longer compatible with his. Anyone got any bright ideas what shifts/hours might fit round this! Cant afford childcare so I thought nights shelf stacking but then that wont work with the one Fri night he does or getting back in time for him to do 6am starts. Have run out of ideas. I have an English Degree (ignore crap spellings please !) but where I live its all factory work which Ive done and am happy to do again but doesnt fit round DD at school or Dhs shifts. Any help would be brilliant !

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 22:33:22

Hi, what is your job and what hours do you work? How old are your dcs?

Snowydrift Mon 04-Feb-13 22:34:13

Ps why do you have to leave, not him?

MrsJamin Tue 05-Feb-13 06:29:58

Rowgtfc72 is there anything that you could do working from home so you could have more flexible hours, with English as a background you could do writing or editing?

Snowydrift Tue 05-Feb-13 08:43:00

I was thinking more along the lines of if you've been there for 8 years and they know you're a good worker, would they allow you to change your hours to fit around your DH's? Even if it means doing some work at home. But of course it would really depend on what you do.

Snowydrift Tue 05-Feb-13 08:48:57

When he works 6-2 you can presumably work 8 (or whenever they start school over there) -6 as he can do the school pick up. When he's working 2-10 he has to do drop off and you work from 8- school pick up. Do you really need to quit your job?

Snowydrift Tue 05-Feb-13 09:02:59

Sorry about the several short posts, I kept thinking of things . But Rowgtfc72 please, please, please don't give up your job unless you are certain there is no way to work around this (unless you hate it of course) and you have another job to walk into. It is so hard to find something at the moment, especially part time. Remember, your employer knows you, if you tell them you really want to continue working for them but this is the situation with regards to your DH's new shifts and give them a workable solution they might well go for it. It would mean they don't have to look for and train someone to do your job. Yes, you might not have regular hours, but if you still get the work done and they know the working times in advance, then it might not be a problem for them. Or maybe there is another role in the company that you could switch to.

Right, I'm on to positive thinking today. There's another job for me to apply to, I got DH to read through my application last night. Cue "Do you never bother to read through what you write? This is wrong, you should say it like this..." Brilliant considering I'd lifted that sentence from a previous application I'd sent only a few days ago. One that he had checked through. So now the job which I match best has a glaring mistake/nonsensical sentence in the covering letter. angry. Wish me luck. I must get this job (they even want someone part time)

pinkje Don't phrase it like that though, that's too negative! Maybe they're just running late. Ask if there have been any developments and when you will know if you're going to be called for an interview. Then if they say no, ask for some feedback on how you can improve your application for future reference.

pinkje Tue 05-Feb-13 11:42:09

Just called them - they couldn't say anything by phone and suggest I write an email. When I logged onto email there was an email from them this morning (in my junk folder) saying my application had been unsuccessful. I feel really disappointed though I guess it was a popular job choice, working only 2 days a week!
I think I could probably get something if I stuck to my original occupation (accountancy) but I was hoping for something a little less demanding.

Laurah1980 Tue 05-Feb-13 11:53:51

Morning mums netters! I'm looking for work ( i say that with a sigh)

My youngest is 2 now (I have 3 in total) I have been working part time as a business development manager (self employed) but I hate it. Historically I worked in the public sector as a senior manager (housing and finance).
I would love a job as a school business manager as I feel my skills could be transferred but just cant get an interview for the post, every time I apply it never goes anywhere.
I know these posts are in demand but do you need to go in at the bottom in the school office to be in with a chance?
Alternatively I'd like to do something self employed in an area I enjoy more but doing what???
I have so much to offer!!! frustrating arggghhhhhhh

Rowgtfc72 Tue 05-Feb-13 15:48:03

Thanks folks ! I work in a plastics factory, 6am-11am , four days a week. School starts at 8.45. Cant work from home. Am trying to sort a meeting with my boss and suggesting an 8am start till 1pm. Then I just need someone to have 5yr old dd from seven till school starting. Its just in the holidays this will go wrong and I will need childcare lots (7- 1.30 every other week four days a week). Ive never used childcare and have no idea what it costs! Also there will be the odd hour to cover.Do childminders do odd hours , every other week sort of hours ?! I dont actually like my job much but as its quite happily paying my mortgage Im loathe to leave it !

NicknameTaken Tue 05-Feb-13 15:55:43

Lurking on here because although I have a p-t job, it's at a lower grade than I used to work at and I'm actively looking for something at a higher level. I'm waiting to hear back on one application - the job would be interesting and the money pretty good compared to my current pittance.

Anyway, I just wanted to say to snowy, you can tell me to mind my own business if you want, but are you okay? Your H sounds horribly undermining and doesn't seem to be showing you much respect or kindness. I don't know if you post in Relationships, but I know some of the posters there would have strong views about his treatment of you. Just saying, in case you wanted to look for support in that regard. And FWIW, I lived in Belgium and although my job was primarily English-speaking, I did have to attend some French-language meetings and I know what it's like to be horribly self-conscious about accent, grammar and vocab!

lljkk Tue 05-Feb-13 16:12:46

Rowtg A lot of breakfast clubs run from 7:30am, might let you start work at 8am. Our Breakfast club charges £4 for the morning session, including a basic meal.

I am pondering your problem, Laurah, but I don't know either. Tell you one thing, though, running a community preschool is very much exactly like running a small business. It would give you immediate relevant experience that you could probably do quite easily, and it can be done part-time. Plus nobody wants to be chair so if you could bite the bullet & do it for a year you'd be well in demand.

lljkk Tue 05-Feb-13 16:19:14

ps: find a preschool that has strong links to a school you'd like to work for or that is at least very large, your reputation for business competence would get out, I am convinced that lots of HTs gossip with each other.

drmummmsy Tue 05-Feb-13 16:50:45

sorry for weighing in

ok guys so an agency contacted me about a part time, year long contract job with a small business which is extremely local - say 15 min drive tops? thing is, i've got applications in for more stable full time permanent positions with local councils and so on but they're a 30/40 min commute away...i would need to arrange childcare (most likely a nursery) too even for this pt temp position (months notice required etc to cancel)

i'm a single parent so can't rely on another wage in any interim periods

sooo do i wait it out on the other jobs, ooorrrr do i take this if i'm offered it??

drmummmsy Tue 05-Feb-13 21:08:48

anyone any pearls of wisdom?

LillethTheCat Tue 05-Feb-13 21:28:55

Whats the months notice for? The nursery or the part time work? Either way most new employers would surely be willing to let you do this months notice before you start there. Would they not.

What would happen if you took this part time job and you were offered a full time one? What would you do?

What would happen if you didn't take this part time job and you were not offered a full time job?

Which of those two scenarios would you rather happen?

drmummmsy Tue 05-Feb-13 21:34:56

that's a good way of putting it Lilleth...obviously i'd rather take the temp part time role and then be able to hand my notice in if offered a full time perm role...i'd just feel a bit crap about it

i wasn't very clear about the months notice sorry. i'm just worried that i'd take a part time, temp job, arrange nursery, pay in advance and then maybe my temp contract be cancelled and i'd still be required to give the nursery a month's notice overthinking

Thingymajigs Wed 06-Feb-13 08:28:07

Hi everyone, I am thinking about returning to work soon and I am terrified. My children are 12 and 9 and I haven't worked since my oldest was a toddler and that was just a Saturday job. I'm not sure what I can do since my eldest has autism and cannot be left alone so I'm guessing evening work is all I can consider. I haven't worked in so long that the thought of it makes me very anxious. Hoping I can find a bit of support on here to help me through. Guess I need to get started on my CV. confused

lljkk Wed 06-Feb-13 11:30:10

Drmummsy I think I'd be leaning towards valuing the bird in hand rather than ones in the bush, iyswim. Take the job you definitely can get (am known for my lack of ambition, mind).

Thingymajigs I know that terror feeling.
All I can say is that stupid phrase "feel the fear and do it anyway".
By the way, the fear eases when you make a million applications with no replies, anyway. I imagine it's the same after you've had a few unsuccessful interviews. While not exactly cheering, at least you don't get so nervous for interviews.

What about school hours only jobs? Even my paltry bank staff lunchtime supervision (or schools catering if you've relevant experience). Or jobs with some element of flexitime.
I've seen more home-based temp-contract jobs offered on Skillpages website than anywhere else.

Awww Nuts. I have spent HOURS on an application today & recently, job has no specified hours except it says "over 3/4 days and excluding Fridays". I've even put a stamp on the envelope. Last thing is phoning to get a name to address application to, and... no answer. Different numbers, no answer. At 11am on a Wednesday, odd, no? Then the penny drops.

Offices only open after school hours, I bet, because they offer youth/teen services, it fits. But I absolutely could not cover my childcare costs in that case. NUTS. I must check for sure if they do phone back.

lljkk Wed 06-Feb-13 11:32:17

ps: it's pretty accepted that folk like lunchtime supervisors take time off for things like electrician to visit or child at home ill, so not a problem if you need that flexibility.

Thingymajigs Wed 06-Feb-13 19:22:06

One of the biggest obstacles I have is having no one to look after the children during holidays so I felt stuck to evening work unless I can find the holy grail of the school only hours job. Those are good ideas though, I need to keep an open mind and apply for any opportunities I can find.
My brother came round and helped me with the layout of my CV today and I realised I had no one to act as a reference and 10 years experience missing. Just an Access course and blank space. I think an initial step into volunteering to gain confidence and references might help a little. Also I'm not sure how work will affect carers allowance or CTC so I really need to find out what options I have.
The idea of doing interviews fills me with dread and I used to be great at them as a teenager. I am in awe of you and everyone who has made that scary jump back into work. Guess I need to just go for it and stop thinking about it.
Thank you for your help. It's given me the boost I needed. smile

LillethTheCat Wed 06-Feb-13 19:51:38

Thingy DH gets carers allowance. Im pretty sure (though not certain) if you work over 16 hours you lose it, otherwise it just stays the same. Then again Im not sure if anything changes with that anyway due to the new benefits system coming in I know I really should look into it, but I dont know where to start

Snowydrift Wed 06-Feb-13 20:05:29

Drmummsy I'd echo lljkk also known for lack of ambition here! and although you'd feel crap if you did have to give up I think it's totally understandable that if you're in a temporary job you will still be looking for a more permanent position. Would the temp contract not also have a notice period (shows ignorance here) ?

Thingymajigs Welcome to the scary world of job hunting. Write your cv, get a couple of example ones off of google and then ask two or three people to read it through. For references, do you know someone (unrelated) who has a job with a good job title who could at least give you a personal reference?

lljkk did they call back?

bee how are the interviews going?

I had a bit of a 'discussion'with DH last night when I told him about the interview. He said if I sounded as enthusiastic as I did then noone would ever want to work with me... It then asked me some questions about what it could be and when I had no idea what he meant he told me I was just stupid hmm or more likely that I have no interest in this stuff. Anyway, he gave me some pointers about what the job could be about (trying to make purple gold for example) which whilst it sounds exciting I'm really not convinced this is a) the type of job for me, I've no engineering experience and I don't think I'm creative enough for this pure research, I've too many holes in my knowledge which will be discovered quite quickly and b) I'm pretty sure is not going to be part time. But he has twisted part of me into wondering if I should be going into this. Now I'm just totally and utterly confused. I have decided to call an old colleague from my phd times and ask what her reaction would be to me doing research as a proper job.

I got a phone call today calling me for an interview 50%, 15 mins away on the bus. I've no experience, but they have called me anyway so hopefully something good could come of this. (Ironically I suspect they manufacture parts for the company that I'll have the interview at on Friday.) I've decided I'm not going to prepare as such for the one on Friday, but be totally honest with them and see what happens...

NicknameTaken Thu 07-Feb-13 09:32:44

snowy, I think your H is verbally abusive. Anyhow, why don't your wishes count for anything when it comes to employment? To come at it from a different angle, don't talk yourself out of things (that you're interested in) for fear of failure. If you're like most women, you underestimate yourself and can do more than you think you can.

Drmummsy, it's entirely legitimate to apply for everything you can, even if it means starting one job and having to leave it soon. The employer might mutter a bit, but don't think they'd make any sacrifices out of loyalty to you!

Still no word from the job I'm interested in. The deadline was a week ago, so they could still be in the shortlisting process, but if I don't hear by early next week, it's not a contender. Ugh. Trying not to hope but it's hard.

drmummmsy Thu 07-Feb-13 11:35:41

fingers crossed still for you Nickname !

and Snowydrift if you went through the process of a PhD (even if you didn't submit) I would definitely encourage you to apply for research jobs that interest you

mrssmooth Thu 07-Feb-13 18:32:18

Hi all, am also job hunting and trying to fit something in round childcare (admin/secretarial type stuff). Had the perfect, flexible job before we moved (although could have done with a few more hours) [sigh] I have applied for 5 jobs so far, 2 in schools (which I didn't get), one was an unsuccessful, and two I'm waiting to hear about. I've also just joined a temping agency this week but I've no idea how hopeful I can be because I can only realistically work between 0930 and 1430. Like lots of others, my ideal job would be in a school because of the term-time hours but those jobs are like gold dust, and as I've no experience in a school office they're bound to choose someone with the proper skills. Am thinking about asking at my dds' school if I can volunteer in the school office (I already volunteer in the classroom) but I know another lady has also asked and don't want to step on anyone's toes! Gah!

Snowydrift Thu 07-Feb-13 19:38:58

Right, Dr. Snowy (I did submit) here, trying to get into interview mode. I have three things to do (well, interview related at least) 1) print out cv, job description 2) sort out simple answers to those evil interview questions and 3) see if I can still get into my suit hmm which has not seen the light of day since before I was pg. Will I be able to do it up? If not, then it will be jeans...

The interview will almost definitely be in French confused as according to a friend of mine they are very francophone there. At least the HR interview, the rest I can probably switch to English. I spoke to a friend of mine from uni today (she was a post-doc and helped a lot during my phd) and whilst she did laugh when I told her about the research job she did say that I could probably manage to do it, even if I didn't like it. She reckons I could wing my way through it long enough to find a job that would suit me better and that I will find it easier to get a job if I already have one. Although she is not convinced they would want a 50%-er in the R&D department. I have decided that will be my limit as it's not my dream job. She does think I would be better in a non-research field though, so I shall wait and see how the second interview goes and use the one tomorrow as training. DH reckons that I don't want to do it because it would be too much like hard work hmm Says the man who has never been alone with two children... But it was good to hear from someone who knows how much I hated my phd at the end me from when I did do research and who is still in the business. Right, I must get away from here and do something useful.

mrssmooth go for it. You can't not apply for a job because you think someone else asked first else you'll never find anything. This is your future.

lljkk Fri 08-Feb-13 08:11:46

She reckons I could wing my way through it long enough to find a job that would suit me better

Good point, it's always easier to find a job when you already have a job.

Even dinner lady work in a school is a good way to get your foot in the door, so classroom volunteering would go down well. There's too much confidential info for them to let you into the office, but prominent profile with the PTA could stand you well.

I've said it before... if you want relevant experience then find a preschool that needs officers (voluntary positions): it's exactly like running a small business and has huge cross over with school office duties.

I would also be temping only 10-2pm, if I sign up with temp agency. I met someone who does 9:30-14:30 bank admin staff for the NHS, but I think those are hard to get too.

I did get a call back from the group who I thought was only open in afternoons: thank goodness they were all on a training course! Hence why no answers to the phone & emails. Got thru in the end, and I've checked hours could work so I've sent off application. I'm also very excited about a 60 hours/3 weeks researcher job that has come up. It's the first job I've tried for that I feel genuine enthusiasm for. Only 3 weeks, but would be up-to-date ref, and I think I could do the job quite well. Flexi hours, too.

Snowydrift Fri 08-Feb-13 09:15:53

Right. Interview over. Phew. It went well apart from two things. one that my research is totally not what they want (but hr admitted that the advert was ambiguous) and the part time issue (hr annoyed I only want pt, so I pointed put she didn't specify full time on her job description which she accepted). I'll hear in two weeks...

Good luck lljkk - convey that in your letter and its yours!

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NicknameTaken Fri 08-Feb-13 14:47:46

Glad interview went well, snowy!

I've got through to the next round with the job I applied for! They say they received lots of good candidates, so they've added a written exercise before shortlisting for the interview. It's going to be a pain to do, but it seems like a very fair way to shortlist. So here's hoping!

bee169 Fri 08-Feb-13 19:12:37

Hello !!

Guess what, I have some good news. I got the job!!smile

Hurray....I am sending positive vibes to you lljkk and snowy. I am hoping to hear good news from you both very soon xxx

MrsJamin Fri 08-Feb-13 19:16:33

Oh well done bee169! I have applied for a job today- it doesn't sound very interesting or well paid but its flexible and I think I have the unusual mix of skills its asking for so I am hopeful in getting an interview. Applying for another job this weekend then sending out 10-15 speculative CVs so who knows?! We are househunting as well - so I am doing a lot of hunting at the moment, it is exhausting!

drmummmsy Fri 08-Feb-13 19:34:45

yaaay bee! well done!

Snowydrift Fri 08-Feb-13 19:39:42

Well done bee :D

Snowydrift Fri 08-Feb-13 19:42:32

Ps can anyone tell me why this thread isn't listed in the "going back to work" section? I only found it by going previous page, previous page until I found it again confused. Now I'm scared if I navigate away to something else, I won't find you again.

MrsJamin Fri 08-Feb-13 19:49:39

This is the 4th most recent thread in "Going back to work" topic - not quite sure how you can't see it.

Snowydrift Fri 08-Feb-13 19:53:39

I've opened the section in a new window and its definitely not there = confusedconfused

bee169 Sat 09-Feb-13 08:50:50

Thank you!! I am very excited as it is part time and allows me to slowly get myself back into the world of work smile

I remember posting a thread a little while ago (in frustration blush) 'How many interviews have you had?' when lljkk said she was thinking of starting a support thread and managed to find all you lovely ladies smile

P.S. I found this job through gaapweb.com - hope it helps

www.timewise.co.uk is also a great website as it is for part time only and it has a sister website for advice called www.womenlikeus.org.uk

lljkk Mon 11-Feb-13 10:53:44

Problem with those sites is they rarely have even a single listing in my county (boohoo!!).

I still feel good, applied for 2 jobs this morning (proper applications I took time over) and I think I've got at least a 30% chance of interview for one of them (other is long shot, but you never know).

Congratulations Bee!

NicknameTaken Mon 11-Feb-13 11:32:11

Congrats, bee!

MrsJamin Mon 11-Feb-13 13:53:26

I've applied for my second job in a week. Not holding my breath but I think it's given me confidence to write more speculative CV mailshots this week.

lljkk Thu 14-Feb-13 10:45:44

Okay, just signing in here because I need a Kick Up The Bottom to get working on an application that is due 8 March, BUT next week is 1/2 term and the week after I could in theory have a temp job that takes all my time (maybe that's very wishful thinking). So I need to do most the work on this app. today. I'm giving myself 4 more minutes on MN before I grit teeth & start prepping.

drmummmsy Thu 14-Feb-13 18:42:06

<kicks lljkk up the bottom>

did you get that application finished?? hmmm lljkk??

in return, i need you to tell me to 'man up' and go into a big retail store and hand in my job application!

MrsJamin Thu 14-Feb-13 18:48:28

Yes lljkk how did you get on? I am still waiting to hear from my applications... I have a feeling neither will come to anything sad

MrsJamin Thu 14-Feb-13 18:49:18

drmummmsy, man up and put the application in will you?! :p

drmummmsy Thu 14-Feb-13 19:04:55

Thanks MrsJasmin wink first thing tomorrow, I promise!

lljkk Fri 15-Feb-13 13:15:33

Okay, DrMummmsy, time for you 2 check in to verify mission complete (wagging finger).

I've made a good start on the current target job (health researcher). <<whispers>> I think it might be a bit of a boring job. But it would suit me in many respects (pt, decent wage, nice employer).

drmummmsy Fri 15-Feb-13 16:34:20

Mission Accomplished lljkk! AAAANNNDDDD they phoned this afternoon, and I have an interview on Monday!

AAANNNNDD I passed from the assessment stage to interview stage for a local council admin roll!

all in, it was a good day grin

lljkk - are you writing an application for the health researcher job now? at the minute, i'd far rather have a job that suits me, and is good for family life, even if it is a bit boring, than do the stuff I'm really interested in and be a total stress-ball

MrsJamin Fri 15-Feb-13 17:04:45

well done drmummmsy!

drmummmsy Fri 15-Feb-13 17:38:47

^oh goodness, role, not roll (i can spell!)

thanks MrsJamin grin

biryani Sat 16-Feb-13 08:59:05

Can I join please? I''ve been looking after dd for 10 years now, and time is passing! I used to have a very full-on job in higher education which I couldn't't possibly combine with her. I''ve been doing casual work in shops, cleaning and teaching to make ends meet. I currently have a casual driving job which I love. I dread the thought of having a demanding job again! I''ve written myself off now, really, as I'm getting on and feel I have little to offer. My Cv looks ok but is 10 years out of date. Help!

lljkk Sat 16-Feb-13 18:53:40

Biryani: Casual work isn't bad, was it thru an agency, can you describe it in terms of hours/week or experience accrued? What about any regular voluntary work in last 10 yrs? Any skills or experience you can attribute to that?

2 of my applications had 12noon deadlines yesterday; since they didn't phone I think I'm out of luck (poo). Mentally that's what I need to do, work hard on application then send it off and forget all about it (I save a copy of the job descrip in case they do ring).

MrsJamin Sat 16-Feb-13 21:19:43

I have an interview! In a few weeks' time. It's a bit terrifying, I have to do a presentation but I am hopeful!

biryani Sun 17-Feb-13 16:03:04

Llijkk(hope that's right! ) work was all through word of mouth, apart from teaching, which was through an agency. I just seem to be so negative. Casual work actually suits me fine, but there's just not enough of it. As regards your own applications-good luck. It's a bugger when you work so hard to be rejected. This is what I dread most-being looked up and down and rejected by some pimply oik in a shiny suit.

In my experience, agencies only need you to bolster up their lists and not really interested in finding you work.

lljkk Sun 17-Feb-13 17:44:24

Good luck MrsJamin smile. How will you do presentation? Powerpoint or what other methods?

MrsJamin Sun 17-Feb-13 17:52:52

I think I am only being interviewed by one person so I think I will take a laptop with some slides with pictures / map etc but just basically talk. I hate when people have PowerPoint and just read out their slides.

Snowydrift Mon 18-Feb-13 11:12:12

Good Luck MrsJamin. Don't forget your power cable and to take a print out of your presentation just in case for some reason the computer doesn't work!

Biryani - what transferable skills can you write down, it's certainly a plus that you've been working.

lljkk hope you get some phone calls today! They're not likely to read all the applications through on a Friday afternoon are they?

My interview was a disaster (did I already say this?) and they called on Friday to wish me all the best for my future career but it wouldn't be with them! Have an interview tomorrow, 50%, 10 mins away. I really hope I can get this. Preparing now!

lljkk Mon 18-Feb-13 14:25:22

Awww Snowy, look at the disaster interview as a dress rehearsal, right? Dress rehearsals are usually disasters no matter how well opening night goes.

I've not heard anything today, other than a nice "We regret to inform you..." letter. I turned on the mobile to check for texts only to be informed by surgery I missed an appointment on Friday (must be their mistake, I had no appointments with them, I'm certain of it).

A job I applied for in mid Jan but didn't hear back until last week ("we regret to inform you..." email): it's being readvertised on the institution website, much to my consternation and minor excitement. This time with a few more specifics about the skillsets they want (I could still do the job well, I bet). "Previous applicants need not apply" at the start, though.

Would I be terribly bitter & twisted to hope and pray they don't get any suitable applicants this time, either? <<grrrrrr>>>

Snowydrift Tue 19-Feb-13 08:40:36

I'm scared! I really need to get this job. It's even on my bus line! Argh! I'm going through all the interview questions now and trying to think of answers and look up the words I need to know.

lljkk- that's a bit of a pain about the job especially when they're still advertising it. Is it a website like monster that's advertising? I've heard that sometimes companies put out adverts even if they're not intending to hire people so that it looks (to the competition) that they're doing well and expanding. Hence the repeated, word-for-word adverts. So, they say previous applicants need not apply. How about you write a "spontaneous" application? Make sure your letter is different to the previous one and tailor it to both the other advert and the new one, with the skill sets they say. Maybe even say you are willing to work on a temp contract at first with a view to going permanent? Then you're not technically applying for the same job even if you are. Do you have the name of the head of department rather than someone in HR?

lljkk Tue 19-Feb-13 10:09:06

It's the actual employer's own website, they obviously didn't get candidates they wanted, didn't even have a decent internal candidate. It's a maternity leave cover position, I think I even put in my cover letter that I would take the job for less than the advertised salary given that I would need some time to learn a few bits of software (esp. SQL, I've read a manual, it's easy enough to grasp).

The job has the same "open date" as b4, so they obviously want to treat it as same position. I am tempted to apply anyway, not sure if that will be taken badly, but with completely different CV, will mull it over.

New App Deadline is this Friday. maybe I will see if it's readvertised yet AGAIN after that and apply again then.I imagine current post-holder is off on MatLeave no later than 1 April so they don't have a lot of time to sort something out.

Snowydrift Tue 19-Feb-13 10:34:05

Ok, don't put that in your cover letter. That's bad and it makes you seem desperate and draws their attention to the fact you think you can't do the job properly. Can you read up about the software and say something like "I am experienced in the use of XX" (something you do know) and then put in brackets (similar to SQL in this way). Don't put you've never used it, that's too negative for a cover letter. You must only put positive things in it. When you get to an interview, if they ask outright, then you say you've never used it, but you know this, you are a wick learner bla bla. But not in the cover letter!

Oh, and if they changed the job description then it's not technically the same job you'd be applying for is it wink

Snowydrift Tue 19-Feb-13 10:37:00

Hmmm, wick = quick!

lljkk Tue 19-Feb-13 10:41:03

Damage already done, lol, first time i applied.

I don't get this job screening stuff at all. If I were hiring, I would rather an applicant addressed directly every job spec whether they met job spec well or not and if they were deficient how they would address that deficiency. I would respect the applicant all the more for a frank assessment of their own capacity to meet every job spec.

And then as a hirer I wouldn't have to sit there reading between the lines, searching for the things the applicant didn't say but that I needed to know nonetheless.

But I know, I know, I've got the message now (from elsewhere, too). That applicant is only supposed to talk themselves up and completely ignore any possible failings, or put the most tenuous spin on their capacity to rise to that job spec. Weird system, but I will work with it.

I didn't save full copy of first job descrip and I don't know if it is that different, just reformatted methinks.

lljkk Tue 19-Feb-13 14:57:19

Ah nuts, heard back from the temp job I thought I could do well "we regret to inform...": I have asked them for a little feedback about what did successful applicants have that I didn't. Hope that was reasonable to ask and they actually give a few details.

I am still convinced that 8 yrs away from external employment and my age are the REAL reasons I'm not getting interviews. But hey ho hum, we shall see.

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mrssmooth Fri 22-Feb-13 17:38:36

I did Avon for nearly 4 years. Think I averaged about £70 every campaign (ie every 3 weeks). A lot of wandering around in all weathers for very little financial reward IMHO! Congrats on getting your sales leadership though!

mrssmooth Fri 22-Feb-13 17:40:00

Never got trained in anything either ... Maybe my SL wasn't that great! :/

stephcat Sat 23-Feb-13 00:07:21

hi mrs smooth, sorry to hear it sounds like you lucked out with SL - same with any employment reallly if your boss lets you down its hard to succeed. I must add I am a fair weather rep ;-) (how do you get those smiley faces to work!)

It all depends on territory and support from SL - me - well I am a strong believer in giving all you can to your team to help them, after all you are only as good as his/her team. If you fancy going for it again PM me! Thanks

mrssmooth Sun 24-Feb-13 17:38:12

Thanks for the offer Stephcat, but like I say, been there, done that for very little financial reward - had a fantastic territory and some great clients, but with the best will in the world you can't force them to spend money. Not for me, certainly not for a "proper" job earning decent money!

HorribleMother Sun 24-Feb-13 18:14:22

Ooh, found a temp job, mornings admin small business, within 30 min. drive (bonus!!), they want an almost immediate start which I can do (sort of, some juggling obv). I am falling over myself in misplaced hope I might get it. I just sent email & cv and will ring them tomorrow to ask if they got my email (Xing fingers).

HorribleMother Sun 24-Feb-13 18:23:23

ps; this is lljkk, name change in ironic smirk at DD.

mrssmooth Mon 25-Feb-13 10:12:45

Fingers crosssed HorribleMother (I'm one of those too, according to dd2!) I joined one temping agency a couple of weeks ago but have heard nothing. Because I only want part time during school hours (could fit in 5 hours a day depending on where the job is) I got the distinct impression from the agency lady that I was being a PITA with regards hours. They have "9-1" jobs advertised, and because I can't start (realistically) until 9.30 this will limit my prospects, which I completely understand, but at the same time, would it really be so difficult for her to ask if they could make the hours 9.30-1.30?! Going to join another agency which seems to have lots of part time jobs on their website. I'm finding this whole thing quite demoralising sad The other thing I don't like is when they don't bother to get back to you and tell you you can stop hanging on to hear from us! Why can't they put a line in their ad which says "If you haven't heard from us by xyz, you have not been successful"? Hate waiting around to hear, feels like my life's on hold at the moment! Anyhoo, moan over, hope you're successful HM!

Snowydrift Mon 25-Feb-13 14:25:07

Good luck HorribleMother (I'm one of those too, I confiscated the train set yesterday!).

I had an interview last week, and I think it went well, but I really am not qualified and I honestly don't think I would be able to do the job sad I called this morning to say I was still interested obviously, but I suspect my lack of experience is a huge negative.
I have two applications still open, one would be perfect, I called this morning and they've not yet sifted through all the applications. 90 received, they will call 4 or 5 to interview sad so there's very little chance of me making it. Maybe my call showed interest and they'll remember my name when they decide (clutching at straws here). The other, the woman in charge of this job is away at the moment, they extended the job deadline (not good news I suppose) and will have answers in a couple of weeks.

DH is trying to turn me into a furniture manufacturer ( I have no work bench, no tools but in my spare time haha I should make some furniture for the flat) . I've had a terribly in productive day, still have loads to do and really not enough time before I go and collect the dc.

Mrssmooth, I agree, the waiting is the hardest. It drives me crazy. Average answer time (beyond we have received your application, please be patient) is 4-6 weeks here!

NicknameTaken Tue 26-Feb-13 10:54:25

Did an interview yesterday. I had to give a short presentation which I thought went well, but I'm afraid I waffled a bit with some of the questions. I'd like the job (better money!) and I think I could do it, but I also feel my confidence is wobbling all over the place.

I don't think I got it.

NicknameTaken Tue 26-Feb-13 14:39:47

Yikes, was offered job. Suddenly terrified at the prospect of having to do it. It's a Good Thing - but a Scary Thing too.

HorribleMother Tue 26-Feb-13 16:32:08

Oh, lovely news Nickname

I think every step of the way is very scary, just remember that you've already got thru several scary steps successfully. smile

I applied for 2 more jobs today, about 1/3 thru another application. And a recruiter actually emailed me (yes they contacted me!) about a proper professional job, but they aren't replying to phone calls & emails back. I have no hope of any of these being successful, but will keep plugging away.

NicknameTaken Tue 26-Feb-13 16:41:04

Thanks, HM, and passing good vibes on! Great to have the recruiter contacting you! They might not be replying because there's some kind of dialogue going on with the company.

drmummmsy Tue 26-Feb-13 18:05:14

wow that's great news Nickname! you'll be just great! and there's hope for the rest of us yet....

NicknameTaken Wed 27-Feb-13 09:21:26

Thanks! <breathes deeply into paper bag>

And yes, there's hope for everyone. Batter enough doors and you'll find a weak spot somewhere that will let you in....

NicknameTaken Wed 27-Feb-13 10:17:17

I told DD, aged 5, that I got a new job which would mean a bit more money. She gave a big cheer and said "More money, more chocolate".

A child after my own heart.

lljkk Wed 27-Feb-13 11:16:30

A child with correct priorities, lol.

I had to ring Recruiter AGAIN. Is that how it works, I do all the chasing?

Managed to fish out a few more details. Worst part is the job is 1.5 hours drive away (rush hour conditions). But it's only 3-6 months and I am not in a position to turn nose up at it, given it would be a great chance to refresh my tech skills. I have decided to apply anyway, I will negotiate reduced hours if offered (unthinkable, but I can fantasise) because I cannot get childcare before 7:30am or after 6pm, strangely enough.

NicknameTaken Wed 27-Feb-13 11:22:06

From what I hear of recruiters, it doesn't surprise me that you do the chasing.

Definitely worth a shot! Definitely worth doing a short-term contract under less than ideal conditions if it gets you back in the game.

lljkk Wed 27-Feb-13 13:22:08

There is a separate button for "Apply Now"; I think I will give recruiter 24 hours & then go thru that application form to apply again (requires logging in and filling in an applic form, I think).

lljkk Tue 05-Mar-13 14:35:10

I have a job <<Faints>>It's only bitty hours until end of July, and means working a lot from home (blech) but suits me well otherwise. smile

Good luck to anyone still hunting.

mrssmooth Tue 05-Mar-13 18:54:03

Yay, congrats llijkk smile

LClogs Wed 06-Mar-13 15:07:04

Hi all,

Not sure where to start with job hunt. DD is in year 9 and DS due to start year 7 in September. They'll both be out almost all day so I could do nearly full time for the first time in years.

I studied while they were babies and got an MBA and I've had a couple of jobs since they were born, both in the public sector as I've found it most flexible in attitude to working hours. I usually work as a process improvement/re-engineering type person and really enjoy it but my last job was in 2010 so I'm not sure how to persuade someone to take me on.

I'm qualified and experienced but looking at my CV, it all looks a bit out of date. Had the depressing experience of and agency person telling me I couldn't work as an admin manager (something I have loads of experience in) because it had been too long since I last had that kind of job. Don't think I've forgotten how to do it....

I'd love to go freelance but have no contacts or recent projects to talk about.

Any ideas or advice would be much appreciated!

lljkk Thu 07-Mar-13 07:45:13

Just get slogging, LClogs. You don't know what you can get until you've been trying for 3-6 months. I type job titles for what I want into google and go from there.

When it rains it pours; after nothing for months and getting PT-flexitime job on Monday, which I started yesterday, yesterday got email inviting me to interview for a FT job (that's in public sector, are they really that flexible, friend said it's possible to negotiate reduced hours often, too?). I am agonising over whether to even go to interview. I wouldn't mind the interview practice but I don't think I really want the job blush. FT seems so demanding, they want me to prep a presentation which looks very boring (and I don't actually know how to use Powerpoint) and I'm outside my safe boring comfort zones to even contemplate it. I'm just so afraid of all the things I'd have to lose/change if I worked FT.

Not sure I could face turning them down if offered, that's the worst part, I might actually get offered it!

Will give myself a few days before replying (I hope that's not rude).

mrssmooth Thu 07-Mar-13 09:57:49

I think you should go for the interview. The job may not be as bad as you think, you can always ask about negotiating hours at the interview (which, if you really still don't want the job, may put them off offering you the job!) Powerpoint can't be that difficult says she who has no idea how to use it dd1 is 12 and she's a whizz on it ... wink

Snowydrift Thu 07-Mar-13 13:20:17

lljkk I would definitely say go along! The practice will be good, you can always say you want part-time, these hours and see what they say. I would have thought if you're not sure you want the job, then it won't matter if you won't compromise on your hours. Either they want you and they'll agree or they won't want to compromise and you've not lost out. Congratulations on getting a job though, even if it is only until July. It's more recent experience which is what is important. Keep your slides simple and professional looking.

I have just had an email for asking me to go to an interview. 80%, which is more than I would like to do, but we'll see... I just need to call the chap back, but he's not picking up. He put a huge load of contact details in his email (looks ridiculous!):
Name
Qualifications
Job title
Department
Company
Division
Address1
Address 2
Telephone
mobile
email
website

Should I call his mobile? It seems a bit strange, it's not like it's ultra urgent...

lljkk Thu 07-Mar-13 17:57:58

I would have thought easiest first, so start with email contact.

Okay, I am such a big Fat Wuss about this life-changing stuff. I phoned them today to book the interview, at 5:01pm & no answer, which I take as a good sign (not slaves to the job). Will phone tomorrow bit after 9am.

LClogs Fri 08-Mar-13 11:41:12

I've worked in a few public sector jobs lljkk and some are very flexible. It depends on the job and team (do they need to have phones or a public counter covered at certain times?) and the manager.

I've been interviewed for full-time jobs then negotiated part-time hours and it has worked quite well, especially when they see that I'm doing as much work as the full timers but in fewer hours...

Public sector can also be good in school holidays, I was able to change my hours to do more on days when kids were at holiday clubs and have extra days off.

Downside is that pay rates can be low, can be difficult to get used to if you have been in the private sector (I found the NHS incredibly frustrating) and career progression can be limited if you stay part-time. Overall, I'd say public sector is quite family friendly but jobs are thin on the ground at the moment.

lljkk Fri 08-Mar-13 20:13:52

Interesting.
It's sort of a branch of the NHS.
I'd quite a 4 day week, no idea if I could do the job in 4 days, though. Might have to post-hold for a spell and see what I think.

hoodoo12345 Tue 12-Mar-13 11:18:57

Wow this thread is brilliant, nice to know there are others in the same position as me.

mrssmooth Thu 14-Mar-13 12:29:42

Had an "interview" to joined another temping agency yesterday. Heard nothing from the one I joined a month ago, so hoping that joining as many as I can will bring in some work. I joined a second one a couple of weeks ago, and other than sending in my CV and calling to make sure they received it, I've heard nothing from them. They don't appear to need me to come in for an interview therefore have seen no ID and haven't met me in person. Wondering how (or if, more to the point) they can recommend me to a client if they haven't even met me? confused Fingers crossed tho.

Snowydrift Thu 14-Mar-13 13:32:59

I have an interview tomorrow. This time tomorrow in fact. I am dreading it! I've had no time this week to prepare, my head is pounding and I'm exhausted. Both the DC's have been ill all week with flu - proper flu, not just a cold, we ended up in A&E, they were tested for it - I've spent the past week attempting to sleep on a mattress on the floor whilst every toss and turn is accompanied by a "Mummy, hug, mummy hug" or a "waaaaa". Not to mention the hours spent mopping burning heads with cold flannels because neither paracetamol nor ibuprofen nor a combination of the two would bring the fevers down below 40. DH also had it so spent the weekend and every evening in bed, took a day off work and also spent that in bed. These are the first few minutes peace I've had (managed to get them to nap) and I can't concentrate on reading things through for my interview. My head is pounding, I'm feeling dizzy and worn out and I just want to cry, collapse and sleep. Self-pitying rant over. But how to do a stunning interview so they will not only give me a job, but at 60%, not the 80-100% advertised...

I hope something comes of it mrssmooth, I think I would call the one you joined a couple of weeks ago and ask what their time frame is, do they think they have any possibilities for you. With agencies, I think the trick is to keep on at them so they don't forget you (or get so pissed off with you calling them that they find you something wink)

lljkk Fri 15-Mar-13 12:51:35

oh my gosh, Snowy, do update when you can catch your breath. What a week.

PT flexijob may be drying up already (fine, had doubts all along). I've had 2 emails from Reed about a local FT very temp admin job that seemingly no one else is applying for ; what the Heck, I went ahead & sent a version of my CV and a cover letter saying I was only available 9:30-2:30 weekdays. But am available for temp casual work if they want to take me on while they seek someone to do it FT. Only spent 1/2 hour on the cover letter, so not much harm done.

I'm going to have a min. 3 sources to declare on my tax return this year, headache?!

hefner Fri 22-Mar-13 11:59:58

Can I join you? I need a new job as my fixed term contract ends in June. I've recently qualified after a long training process but there are no jobs around at the moment sad

Good luck with your interview snowy

lljkk Fri 22-Mar-13 12:23:52

Actually, Snowy's interview was last week. How did it go?!

hefner Fri 22-Mar-13 14:00:42

Oops sorry Snowy, I saw that your post was on Thursday but missed the date and assumed it was posted yesterday. Hope it went well.

lljkk Fri 22-Mar-13 14:13:58

What area are you qualified in, Hefner?

hefner Fri 22-Mar-13 22:25:33

I'm a mental health professional lljkk, don't want to be too specific about which profession in case I out myself! Did you hear back from the local admin job?

lljkk Sat 23-Mar-13 08:29:21

I was unsuccessful, lol. It was very temp, so fine.
DH wants to quit his job which could work out really well, if he becomes SAHP for 6-24 months while I re-establish my employability. My head is spinning with all the possibilities.
Need to get a job first, though, we need to figure out a min. salary to pay our usual bills.

lljkk Sat 23-Mar-13 08:29:55

ps: thx for asking. So you are applying for NHS jobs, too? I am apprehensive, such a funny mix of reputation.

hefner Sat 23-Mar-13 14:33:20

Yes, I'm in the NHS. I don't really think too much about how it looks as an employer as I've worked for the NHS for 10 years and always assumed I would continue, but you're right it's definitely going through a rough patch at the moment. Hopefully the Francis report will end up doing the NHS good if it leads to improvements. I'm also looking out for research posts as a back up and the university looks like a really good employer, but I would feel quite sad to leave the NHS, think I'm a bit institutionalised!

lljkk Sun 24-Mar-13 08:23:52

My other high-hopes job applic is in a Uni med school, too. smile
Question: long hours. I am selfish (sane) and only want to work contracted hours. It's an office job anyway. Do you think if office hours are 8:30-5pm that I really can leave the office at 5pm virtually every day? Is that being naive?

mrssmooth Mon 25-Mar-13 16:41:26

OMG! Been invited to an interview this Thursday for a job in a school! Can't quite believe it. Am feeling very nervous ... Yikes.

lljkk Mon 25-Mar-13 19:09:03

good luck! smile

mrssmooth Sun 31-Mar-13 18:25:48

I got the job smile smile Interview was hard work but I obviously didn't fluff my lines as much as I thought I did ... They called to offer me the job about an hour after the interview finished! I shall keep checking in here to see how you're all getting on.

lljkk Sun 31-Mar-13 18:57:21

Fantastic grin.
My interview is in 3 days. <<Wibble>>

mrssmooth Sun 31-Mar-13 19:03:31

Good luck lljkk!

lljkk Sun 31-Mar-13 21:50:39

Ta.

<<Wibble>>

hefner Tue 02-Apr-13 16:04:31

Congratulations mrssmooth!

I've found a few things to apply for although I'm not confident that I'll get interviews for any of them.

Good luck with your interview lljkk, fingers crossed for you!

mrssmooth Wed 03-Apr-13 06:30:26

Good luck today lljkk smile

lljkk Wed 03-Apr-13 12:31:20

It went well, thanks!! Pretty sure I'll get it.

mrssmooth Wed 03-Apr-13 18:41:12

Great news, let us know how you get on smile

Snowydrift Thu 04-Apr-13 11:38:55

Congratulations mrssmooth!

I wasn't called to the second round sad But I have an interview on the 16th for another position. And my previous boss has just called me and said he can't offer me a job, but if I set up a consultancy firm he can give me a contract to do some work for his department confused

LillethTheCat Thu 04-Apr-13 16:46:38

Its been ages since I was on this thread as there has been nothing to report and it dropped off TIO. However I have just seen an email inviting me for a phone interview. The end of the email said to contact them by email or phone to arrange a time. Which one would be best? Im not a big fan of talking on the phone so would rather email, but if phone is best then I will do that.

Im excited to actually get further than the application stage, but nervous now too.

Congratulations on the job mrssmooth, fingers crossed lljkk and good luck for the interview on the 16th Snowy (sorry to hear you didn't get through to the second round of the first interview though)

Alison14 Thu 04-Apr-13 17:26:27

I live in Bucks, am a self employed nail tech...times are really tough, and now realize that I need to supplement my income...I'm looking for a reception based work part time, please please let me know if you hear of anything !
Sick of living hand to mouth sad

hefner Fri 05-Apr-13 15:52:29

Any news yet lljkk?

I've just found out I didn't get an interview for a lovely job I applied for last week. I've got a couple of applications in at the moment but I'm not feeling very hopeful.

Lilleth I think either phone or email would be fine, I'd go for email if it'll make you feel more comfortable. Good luck with the phone interview.

Good luck on the 16th Snowy. Do you think you'd consider setting up a consultancy firm?

hefner Fri 05-Apr-13 15:55:37

Ooh I've just remembered I saw on another thread that the NCT are advertising for home based admin staff at the moment, if that's any use to Alison or anyone else?

lljkk Fri 05-Apr-13 16:13:05

Ta 4 asking, Hefner, I won't hear until 16 April at earliest.
I'll get back to job hunting next week just in case. I have another interview on 22nd, too. So looking good smile.

bee169 Sat 06-Apr-13 08:40:57

Good luck lljkk

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Icemine Thu 11-Apr-13 12:18:43

Hi, I've an interview next week and I'm so nervous! I'm trying to prepare and I'm just a bundle of nerves, I can find lots of reasons why they won't employ me and not a lot why they should. How do you deal with the interview and preparation? Any tips?

I never get past the first round of interviews so it must be how I come across. I'm not very good at thinking on my feet and my mind goes blank when I get flustered. DH reckons he interviewed someone last week who he says was just like how he imagines me in an interview and he wanted to get up and shake some sense into him because he was really well qualified, but bad at communication and it probably cost him the job.

lljkk hope you hear some good new soon!

pinkyponk67 Thu 11-Apr-13 14:46:57

If you have got to interview stage, they think you could do the job based on your application, so don't talk yourself out of it - they know better than you what they are looking for!

If nerves are a real problem try and find some coping strategies for you, relaxation exercises or similar.

lljkk Fri 12-Apr-13 14:46:17

That's really good advice, Pinky.

Icemine Sun 14-Apr-13 19:39:41

Thanks pinky (I love the name!). So, one and a bit days to go, the kids are ill, possibly with a vomiting bug (playdate has it) so the day I most need to be child-free, I can't send them to crèche. I've no idea what I will do with them for the interview if they're still ill.

Job question...If I don't get this job, I have the offer of freelance work (F). I've delayed giving F and answer and told them I want to go to this interview first. They always ask if you have any other open applications at the end of the interview so what should I say? Basically I have a definite job offer (but crap conditions) in almost the same job description as what I'm applying for. I've stalled F and have to give an answer on the 20th at the latest. How do I get this across without telling them who I would freelance for, (previous boss) because it may not be 100% legit the way he's gone about offering me the contract and I don't want to get him into trouble! And if they don't mention it, I need to bring it up and tell them I need an answer asap. I don't even know if they'll have interviewed all the applicants. Could this work in my favour or will they just wave me goodbye?

lljkk Mon 15-Apr-13 08:03:22

Find a teen or a friend who will mind them for interview time, even if paid, call in a favour, promise biscuits & wine if necessary.

They always ask if you have any other open applications at the end of the interview so what should I say?

Heck yeah tell them you have another offer but then some reasons why you prefer the job they offer. Make yourself look more desirable. Say it's confidential if they want more details about who other offer is from. I wasn't asked about other applications, btw; at end I asked "When will you let candidates know?" and then they asked me if I was still available from date X. So I said I had a few days temp work & another interview to attend on date Y (hence gave them a 3 weeks deadline, to let me know what was happening).

mrssmooth Thu 18-Apr-13 14:04:12

Any news yet lljkk?

lljkk Thu 18-Apr-13 16:03:38

No, thanks for asking. I don't know if tomorrow is too soon to ring? I will feel more justified in enquiring if I leave it until Monday, anyway.

lljkk Mon 22-Apr-13 18:01:24

Interview today but not informed until tomorrow at earliest (twiddle twiddle). Still haven't heard anything back about the job I interviewed for 3 weeks ago. (sigh).

mrssmooth Mon 22-Apr-13 18:37:05

How annoying for you lljkk. I hope you get some news soon - it's a bit off of them to keep you waiting for 3 weeks shock How do you think the interview went today? Fingers crossed for you.

lljkk Tue 23-Apr-13 09:56:34

Interview was okay, I think I didn't say right answers to some things, always think of better answers 20 minutes after it finished, don't I!?

It's fine as long as I get other job (assuming they have a clue, not sure).
It's hard to get motivated to apply for other jobs (not many to choose from anyway) when I am still hanging on these 2.

Thx for asking.

What if anything are other people applying for?

lljkk Tue 23-Apr-13 10:59:22

Aw Nuts.
I've have a verbal informal offer of the job from yesterday contingent on good references (this is a good thing, I know).
But I think I would prefer the job from the interview 3 weeks ago. Because
A) closer to home;
B) FT which I'd prefer, although chances of extra hours at yesterday job are high, anyway;
C) permanent (not really a big deal, but gives me more choice of when to go)
D) Probably more opportunities for career development with 3weeksago job. Probably more challenging (I like a challenge)

But 3weeksago job I cannot get an answer out of them, it is an organisation in crisis, and the poor comms may be a Big Warning that I don't want to work for them.

Arrrggggh.... too many choices. First world problem I know.

mrssmooth Tue 23-Apr-13 11:23:08

Whether the 3weeksago company are in crisis or not, 3 weeks is surely more than enough time to decide on who they want?! Maybe you should give it one last try to get a reply from them, wait for the formal offer from yesterday's job to come through and perhaps by that time 3weeksago will have sorted themselves out? If not, like you say, 3weeksago company are sending out totally the wrong signals about how good they are to work for! What a horrible place for you to be in lljkk.

I'm going in for a tour and "meet the staff" session after school drop off today. Will also be going in for a few "sessions" next week before I officially start after the bank holiday. Yikes!

luminousloopylou Tue 23-Apr-13 15:07:06

I feeling your issue there MrsJasmin, I used to have a good job but left. 5 years later, it is very difficult to get back into a role like it part time. Been for an interview this morning, lovely company, lovely job and it is part-time yippee!!. I just have an incling that as it is a small co of 10 people, they will not choose me because I am of childbearing age and a financial liability :-/ time will tell! Prospective CVing is a good idea, may try that one.

lljkk Tue 23-Apr-13 16:33:48

It's okay, thanks for asking. I did ring up 3weeksago; I gather I am 2nd or maybe 3rd choice for 3weeksago so I am assuming that one is a dead duck and have said yes to the informal verbal offer; now have to wait for formal offer on paper to make it official. smile

Icemine Thu 02-May-13 03:25:45

smile great news lljkk

I called back again to see if there was any news for the interview I had on the 16 th and they are still interviewing first round candidates. They are interviewing 10...

dufflefluffle Fri 03-May-13 12:33:28

I applied for a job I felt I had a really good chance with. I was sure that I'd at least get an interview but after 4 weeks I have just heard that I didn't get anywhere with them (not even an interviewsad) they emailed me. Would it be mad to email them back saying thanks for letting me know but why didn't I get anywhere???
This is the first job I really really wanted after 10 years as a mostly sahm but I have been doing voluntary work and OU courses in that time.
I am so envy of those of you getting interviews and jobs!

hefner Tue 07-May-13 16:54:52

I got a job!!!! Finally! I'm so relieved, my current contract is about to end and I was getting really worried I wouldn't find anything. Phew.

Well done lljkk hope you enjoy your new job.

duffle it's a shame you didn't get an interview. I think it's definitely worth asking for feedback, although they might say no. I've been asking for feedback every time I didn't get an interview and out of a lot of applications (lost count how many!) I think I've had one detailed feedback, and a couple saying they only interviewed internal candidates, the rest either ignored me or said no.

nfb77 Mon 03-Jun-13 17:00:51

Hi
I was wondering if anyone has been unlucky enough to have to complete a numeracy and literacy test for North Devon Healthcare Trust? I have an interview at the end of the month and have been informed of this test, no calculators can be used!!! Iv been doing drug calcs for years but this is definitely stressing me out....I'm one worried nurse x

iseenodust Tue 04-Jun-13 14:54:59

I did a literacy & numeracy test for another part of NHS. It was multichoice and some speed was needed. You can probably find a practice one online.

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georgyporgie Wed 12-Jun-13 16:11:17

Can I join? Thoroughly gloomy and down in the dumps about rejection after rejection after rejection after rejection (yes, it really is as bad as that) for jobs that I've applied for even before interview. sad

Currently enjoying extended maternity leave (cough) with an 8m ds- handed in notice to last job before I found out I was pregnant so now find myself desperately needing to find work. Especially as I convinced oh to take a job back up in London/Surrey area as I breezily said "oh, should be easy for me to find a job back up there rather than down here in the back of bloody beyond". Ha. Hubris biting me on the arse there. We move up in 4 weeks and despite applying like mad, nothing whatsoever.

Aaaaaaaargh! shock

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