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Teaching - what is it like??

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Pitchounette · 19/01/2007 08:34

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Hulababy · 19/01/2007 08:46

I left teaching 2 years ago, after 9 years of secondary school teaching. By the time I left I was very disillusioned and extremely stressed. I was not in a great school for the last 5 years and it took its toll.

As for hours - I was in school from 8am to about 4pm. 1-2 times a week I would have a meeting, taking me to about 5pm. I also then had 10 parent's evenings a year, lasting till about 7:30pm.

After school, I would come home and work for a couple of hours or so in an evening, doing my planning and prep, and then do some work at weekends also. I would also work in the holidays.

The work load varies throughout the year and depending on what year group/subject you do. For me, I had a subject with a heavy courseowrk load in GCSE and sixth form years - so my work load was heaviest at holiday time. My lower years had less homework, but I did teach about 7 or 8 different classes - marking was about 1 hour per class per week for me. Prep and planning in addition.

Primary school teachers, I think, tend to spend more time doing their work at the school, whereas I could and did bring my marking home with me.

The paperwork can be heavy - report writing for example!

But the paper work was not my problem. I am a naturally organised person, so paperwork I managed fine.

I struggled, in the end, with the constant class management. In the end there was little teaching happening and constant discipline. This was because of the school I was in partially I know - my first school was veyr different - and the school had very little management support. It was also in special measures, meaning a lot of inspections and general stress. I was physically and verbally assaulted, with little support. I was a good teacher (I know this and have evidence to back me up, but I ran out of ideas in the end, when there was no back up for discipline measures) I posted a lot on MN about these times, and it was support from MN tha made me decide to quit and find a different job - I did and I am happier

I also found that teaching wasn't that family friendly - no taking time of to see your own children in school plays, concerts, nativities, sports day, etc. I was lucky as DH was able to help with the nursery drops, as I had to leave before nursery started.



However in the right school, teaching can be wonderful and fulfilling. I do have some happy memories of my early teaching days and the odd one even from the not so good school. Days when for a child it just clicked or when a child achieved something new - great. You can and do make a difference to a child's life and future as a teacher, and that in itselfcan be fantastic.

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Hulababy · 19/01/2007 08:47

Have you been and done some work experience/shadowing in a school? That would be my first advice to you - go and have a look, see what it is like.

Do you have the necessary qualifications already?


A lot of the teachers will be at school right now - bump this thread later on tonight and you may get more replies.

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bloss · 19/01/2007 09:11

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Pitchounette · 19/01/2007 19:14

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Blandmum · 19/01/2007 19:20

In the right school, not the best results but the most supportive, it is the best job in the world.

In an unsuportive school it would suck.

It is the best and most rewarding job that I have ever had, and the hardest.

You don't finish work at 3.30 not just because of the meting but all the planning/.marking etc.

I work part tome and average about 50 hours a week in term time. But the holidays are good.

Pay is crap for the qualifucations that you need.

But nothing is potentaily as much fun.

PS can teac....can't type or spell!

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Pitchounette · 20/01/2007 08:57

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potoroo · 20/01/2007 09:21

I'm watching this thread with interest because I am considering chucking in my old job (which pays reasonably well but is totally unfulfilling) and doing teaching - probably maths because I am an engineer.

MB - do you teach science?

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Rumpel · 20/01/2007 09:36

Why don't you consider lecturing in an FE College? That way you get to teach in an adult environment, although Fe branches into schools now and you do get 15/16 year olds in FE. You can even teach part-time. Depends on your qualifications obviously but might be worth looking into.

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bloss · 20/01/2007 09:48

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jennifersofia · 20/01/2007 10:04

I am 36, and I teach Y1, I am in my first year of teaching. My school is okay, not bad, not great. The staff and the head are very supportive and friendly. My class is 100% EAL (english as an additional language), and over half the class qualify for free school meals. My schedule is as follows:
6:00 up and work for 1/2hr.
6:30 make lunch, get ready, get kids ready etc.
7:45 go to school
8:00-8:45 prepare for days lessons
8:45 morning briefing
9-3:30 teaching. Lunch time is 15 min spent on lunch, 45 min preparation.
3:30-5:30-6 work/ lesson planning etc. (meetings 1x/wk)
6-7:30 home and put kids to bed
7:30-8:30 sit down for 15 minutes, then make/ have dinner
9-11:30 work (marking/ planning/ resources etc)
That is M-Th. I give myself Friday evenings off. Saturday I work a half day (should be now!) and then again in the evening when kids are in bed. I work Sunday evening too.
During holidays I do some work in the evening and usually go into school for a day or two, but can't do that much because I am looking after the kids.
Training year was much the same, although possibly a bit less sleep. Next year might be a little easier, but I don't think that much. The year after if I am still in teaching I will prob be moved to a new year group (in our school people don't tend to stay in the same year group for more than 3 yrs)
Do I enjoy it? I am not sure. I am so tired and often stressed, it is hard to tell. I am glad that I am doing something of value, and not a 'nothing' job like I had before (admin for a big company - no offence to other admin-ers!)
Behaviour is an issue, not because of the school exactly, but more because of the socio-economic profile of our students (many have 1 parent that is illiterate). It is satisfying to see students making progress, and to feel my own personal growth, and teaching really is never ever boring! But I do wish I could relax a little more and see my own children more. I never get to see their classrooms, pick up or drop off, go to meetings, plays, Christmas things, etc. and I miss that.
Def. spend some time volunteering in a decent school - it would give you a better idea of it.

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jennifersofia · 20/01/2007 10:15

Oh yeah, my pay is 23.5k (inner London), so that makes, let's see.... 60 hrs/wk during term time into 23.5.. roughly £10/hr before tax, not including any work done in holiday time. But it isn't all about the pay check, is it!

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Moomin · 20/01/2007 10:30

I've taught secondary English for 14 years (yikes didn't realise I was that old until I saw it written down) and been in my present school for almost 10 years.

I now teach part-time (2 dyas a week at the moment, 3 days from next Sept) and, echoing what everyone else has said, in the right school it's a great job. My school isn't in a brilliant area socially or economically, but the school pastoral system is excellent, the kids and staff are motivated and we as teachers are very well supported and that makes all the difference. Having a good Headteacher and good line-managers is essential too, and I've been 'lucky' enough to have bosses who have allowed me to be very flexible with my management duties as well as being part-time.

Our school is quite cutting edge as well which means we have to be on-the-ball with new initiatives and teaching strategies, but this has been great for me and I'm constantly being challeneged academically and creatively. Even though I'm part-time I'm a staff mentor for new staff and I have a big say in how the dept is run despite only being there 2 days a wekk at the moment.

Of course the job has its down-sides: sometimes I feel as if I'm constantly chasing my tail and can't get my teeth into stuff at school before I'm off home again, but that's the choice I made when I went part-time. I've also felt disillusioned at times, and the travelling gets me down sometimes (20 miles each way) but I guess that could happen in any job.

I do have to say, though, I got all my big management breaks when I was childless and a workaholic and then was able to ease off when I had kids; I don't know how easy it would be getting promotions and taking on extra responsibilities with a family at home, whether you were full or part-time. Even if you didn't want to rise up the ranks and you were happy with a teaching job with no extras, starting from scratch with a family would be tough-going, there's no doubt about it. I'm sure it's possible but I remember how all-consuming it was when I first started and I had no-one but myself to please.

IT's a fab job though, and I really feel as if I'm achieving something worthwhile after a day's teaching (not that I don't when I'm at home but it's a different feeling!)

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syrup · 20/01/2007 10:40

Interesting thread, I too started to wonder if teaching would be a good move..... I hope to goodness it is as I am starting a pre ITT enhancement on Monday and I am bricking it (graduated 20 yrs ago!!)
Getting a bit of observation experience was really good for me because I had always assumed I would enjoy Primary but after a couple of days I was climbing walls and nearly jacked the whole idea in. A friend of mine wouldn't let me forget it until I had been into a Secondary school luckily I did and felt totally at home so went ahead with my application.

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Blandmum · 20/01/2007 12:20

Potoro

Yes I teach secient and I'm a biology specialist

Agree with the things that everyone has said. Moomin, we don't have the brightest kids, but they are great, and like you we have a good pastoral system, and great support from the rest of the staff. And this is the Key I think. If you are supported as a teacher, and behavioual issues are sorted asap, then teaching is massivly rewarding.

Have poor, unsupportive management and it would be horrific

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Hulababy · 20/01/2007 12:22

I agree - it is the school management/support that is the key, not the children. How the management deal with situations and how they promote good behaviour/discipline.reward systems is far more important to a teacher than the behaviour of the children themselves.


You could look into adult teaching too. You still need a teaching qualification now for that as well though.

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goblinqueen · 20/01/2007 12:38

My plan in life was to teach but I got side-tracked (quit uni and moved to the US!)

I'm currently doing a degree through Open Uni and have decided at this stage in my life teaching in a school would not be the way I wanted to go, it would be too stressful and eat too much into my family time. I've worked as a teaching assistant and also as a volunteer helping adults (16+) gain basic literacy and numeracy qualifications and the latter was so much more fulfilling and it really helped that that were motivated to learn. So my current interest is adult literacy and teaching English as a second language.

Some jobs are jobs and some jobs are lifestyles and teaching is a lifestyle!

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Pitchounette · 20/01/2007 12:38

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Pitchounette · 20/01/2007 12:39

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roisin · 20/01/2007 12:56

Pitchounette - just phone up a local school and say you are seriously considering teacher training, and can you come in and spend a day shadowing a teacher in your chosen area. Most schools will accommodate you enthusiastically. If you like it, you could arrange to go back and spend some more time there.

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Blandmum · 20/01/2007 12:59

And if you are considering secondary school think about doing your PGCE with the OU. They are far more flexable when it comes to when you do your hours of study.....there are no lectures to attend, you study in your own time, which is great if you have to fit it in around your study. I did it with them, and it is first rate. No problems with getting jobs either, most of my fellow students got jobs in their placement schools!

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seb1 · 20/01/2007 13:28

Pitchounette, don't know where you stay but in Scotland when I looked into teaching a couple of years ago they didn't accept a PGCE from the OU, so if you do live in Scotland I'd check.

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Blandmum · 20/01/2007 13:33

Oh Sorry. I didn't know you were in Scotland....very sorry. OU PGCEs don't run in scotland. And no UK teaching qualifications 'count' in scotland without a conversion course.

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Pitchounette · 20/01/2007 13:44

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hercules1 · 20/01/2007 13:45

When it's going great it's amazing when it's shit, it's really shit.

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Blandmum · 20/01/2007 13:46

Bit like parenthood, when you think about it!

In fact, very like parenthood

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