Suggestions for a career change?

(41 Posts)
Roma2013 Fri 21-Jun-13 20:04:02

Really fed up with the lack of opportunities for a permanent full-time appointment in academia. Need to rethink/retrain. This is the situation:

1. I have done nothing except university lecturing - and being a full time SAHM. I'm not sure I know the full range of possible - if any - jobs available in other working environments

2. I have a good (ish) degree and PhD in English

3. I am old (think 50 hmm)

4. I would like to earn £40k p.a.

5. Am happy to spend a few years retraining but would like to fast-track as quickly as possible.

6. Am better working as a team than in isolation

7. Not especially numerate; am good at brainstorming.

...it's not looking promising really is it?

Roma2013 Mon 24-Jun-13 15:10:19

Recruitment Consultant in Education Sector? That may be possible. Does anyone have this line of work who could tell me detailed information about it?

Bonsoir Mon 24-Jun-13 09:05:18

Recruitment consultant in the education sector.

Roma2013 Mon 24-Jun-13 09:00:11

I'd be prepared to work my way up to management. It's just that I would want to do it quickly, given my age. Those questions are good, married and have made me think. I haven't been Programme convenor but I have managed staff within an (admittedly small) team. I've ran a household and juggled alot ('stupidly hopeful' emoticon)

Arisbottle Sun 23-Jun-13 22:17:07

When I took a career change I had to start right at the bottom again and took a huge pay cut. I agree with married.

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 23-Jun-13 21:23:38

I think you sometimes have to go sideways to gain the foundation to move forward from. As a lecturer what have you been managing? Programme convenor etc? If you haven't why do you think you can move directly into a management role? The competition may have been doing a more relevant job - why do you think you should be appointed? What marks you outas better than the competition? Not rying to be nasty - just tryng to focus you on the interviews!

Arisbottle Sun 23-Jun-13 21:13:40

Not fast track, teach first .

Arisbottle Sun 23-Jun-13 21:13:10

I am a member of the senior management team, started off as a fast track teacher.

Roma2013 Sun 23-Jun-13 21:08:24

I'm not sure about a sideways move at university level. I could have a look at that I guess. Something university management related, perhaps?

Roma2013 Sun 23-Jun-13 21:04:56

Given the numeracy issue, looks like Procurement is out. Aris, what level/discipline of teaching are you at to earn 50k?

WidowWadman Sun 23-Jun-13 20:04:08

quietbatperson - I work in procurement and love it. Numeracy is a key skill. Yes, there's (sadly) quite a few people who work in procurement who are not very good at maths - which means normally expensive mistakes, worse deals, poor forecasting, completely not understanding costings etc.

quietbatperson Sun 23-Jun-13 19:52:34

WidowWadman it depends on level of numeracy - I get by happily on my GCSE maths and the OP may have a higher standard in mind than that given the level that some of her colleagues will be working at. Good with Excel is as much of a necessary as anything.

OP most people get in to Procurement through Supplier Relationship Management. The qualifications come as you do the job and are in Supply Chain Management and are often NVQs. WidowWadman's concern about numeracy is a valid one though and you would need to be able to do some maths to work out who the winner of a tender is, or apply an inflationary increase to a contract, or discuss non-delivery of services and work out any contract price adjustments. If you really are hopeless with numbers Procurement wouldn't be for you.

Arisbottle Sun 23-Jun-13 13:42:33

I would say teaching, I managed to get to about 50k in under ten years.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 23-Jun-13 13:35:51

Hi there

This isn't really an AIBU, so we've moved it to 'Going Back to Work'. Best of luck to the OP.

TwasBrillig Sun 23-Jun-13 13:04:00

What did you retrain as phineyj?

It does seem that if you miss the boat with graduate training schemes it can be hard to find a way in to large companies without competing with graduates at the bottom. A lot of retraining seems to be public sector for a specific role - social worker, ot, teacher, nurse, doctor. And then possibly lawyer or accountant.

There must be more?

Phineyj Sun 23-Jun-13 12:45:24

married I think it seems simpler when you look back on it? I retrained too & it's taken about 3 years from making the decision to feel I'm on a career track again and earning reasonable money (I'm 40) but at the time it was quite daunting. I had at least done a variety of jobs and been in the workplace continuously - OP has only done one and has had time out.

WidowWadman Sun 23-Jun-13 12:35:10

quietbatperson - I wouldn't recommend Procurement to someone who describes themselves as "not numerate".

Phineyj Sun 23-Jun-13 12:31:02

Oops cross post with married

Phineyj Sun 23-Jun-13 12:30:32

Organising training post within a company? Conference or event organising? Personnel/HR? If the thought of secondary school teaching appeals but you can't afford to spend several years on a low or no salary while you retrain, possibly independent school marketing combined with some teaching? (you don't need to be qualified to work in an independent school). State schools increasingly need people with marketing skills too - in some areas there is fierce competition to attract sixthformers (don't know about NE specifically).

Publishing and editing jobs mostly pay peanuts and you'd need to be able to get to London for meetings at least now and again.

I think £40k in the NE when starting at the bottom in a new career is a big ask, but you could plan to work your way up to that.

Would a medium term plan be a sideways move within your university to get experience is some of the above areas? e.g. offer to help with schools' outreach to get into schools etc.

If you put the word out to friends and friends of friends you could probably sort out some days of job shadowing. Also a university context gives you a massive network potentially & access to a careers service, even if they are more used to advising students.

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 23-Jun-13 12:17:23

To be perfectly honest I think if you are a lecturer in a university you should be capable of researching this yourself. I retrained after 8 years off at 43 (was a banker now an H R prof) - started at the bottom, part time on about 8k, went full time and did prof quals - took 2 years. By 50 I was on about 42k - just changed jobs and am now on over 50. It took me nearly 10 years and a lot of hard work to achieve this but I like to think I've another 10+ years in me at this level.

Can you look out of the box where you work now and look at things like registry, SN specialisms, even H R or marketing and offer to pitch in in those departments when you aren't working to get a flavour of things?

Phineyj Sun 23-Jun-13 12:16:59

Seconding recommendation of 'What colour is your parachute?'

scarlettanager Sun 23-Jun-13 12:14:07

Hospital based occupational therapist - teamwork, problem solving etc

What do you like about your job?
What do you dislike about it?
Do you like working with people?
Do prefer writing and researching?

If you like researching / analysis maybe
TV research
Education publications
OED?
Think tank/ policy research teams etc
Professional research co

Google - what colour is your parachute - it's a really good book

Roma2013 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:47:44

Thanks for these replies and links. All interesting and useful info/feedback.

What would be ideal is a system where I could shadow different jobs for a few weeks to get a realistic flavour of what jobs are like, sone of the highs and lows, etc. i'm not sure it s possible to do this, is it? What I'd want is not to be shadowing a shelf-stacker or role lower down the ladder (but rather the level where I'd ultimately like to be, even if this takes a few years retraining).

primallass Sat 22-Jun-13 11:04:12

What about an Education Officer role somewhere? Or something similar? This is in Scotland but gives you an idea of what I mean.

primallass Sat 22-Jun-13 10:59:22

Publishing is not well paid. There will not be many publishing jobs in the NE that will pay 40k (if any at all). You could approach publishers about writing textbooks or consulting on books already written, but you won't make 40k a year from it. I speak from experience, a publishing degree and 15 years in the industry.

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