Over 40 words at 17 months

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catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 20:42:55

Is that good? Or am I being PFB blush

DS just seems really good at talking to me. Plus he understands everything you say (eg, could you take you coat and give it to daddy? etc)

If you give him two things he says 'two'. He does animal noises (loads, not just 2 or 3) and loads of other stuff that seems so amazing to me.

But he's my first and I don't know if I am just being totally biased or if he is really clever blush

Eskino Wed 17-Apr-13 20:44:47

PFB. But that's a good thing. He is amazing!

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 20:47:03

grin He would be amazing to me whatever he did. But my only point of reference is my DM who is as besotted with him as I am and keeps telling me how brilliant he is. It may have gone to my head blush

He also has the most biteable, squidgy thighs grin

RandomMess Wed 17-Apr-13 20:49:54

Sorry you're being pfb my eldest was talking in fluent sentences at that age and although bright and academically able isn't G&T

Didn't half make life easier though, no tantrums as we could discuss things!

KLou111 Wed 17-Apr-13 20:51:17

Good god that's fantastic!! My ds is 20 months, we are both sahp's as we run a business so we spend all day with our son talking, playing etc and although he totally understands what we say, he only probably says 2 or 3 actual words.

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 20:52:26

I thought I might be smile blush

He's still amazing to me smile

RandomMess Wed 17-Apr-13 20:53:51

Enjoy him, it's lovely lovely lovely being party to them growing up and developing grin

You do realise he will probably drive you crazy when he's older as he'll be a complete chatterbox!

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 20:56:46

I will and thank you Random.

I'm looking forward to that stage now but I am sure I will be rocking in a corner drinking gin at some point muttering 'no more questions'

Full sentences at 17 months is amazing!

He walked late so I guess they just all do different things at different times. Someone told me they are 'walkers or talkers' KLou. Did your DS walk early?

lovelyredwine Wed 17-Apr-13 20:58:11

He sounds ace! He may be g&t, or just advanced with speech- probably too young to know at the moment.

The HIV at my dd's 2year check marked her down as being like the average 4 yr old in most areas. My Dmil and dm now both consider her g&t. I consider her gorgeous, but nosy and stubborn, hence the great vocabulary and desire to do every puzzle in the place no matter how difficult.

It makes life much more interesting when they start yabbering on- the things that go on in toddlers' heads are bizarre! Have fun!

Habbibu Wed 17-Apr-13 20:58:19

Mine did that. They Never Bloody Shut Up now... But it is lovely, and you should be proud of him.

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:00:14

I just can't wait to have proper conversations with him

I love reading the 'things toddlers say' threads. I love the way they think smile

Shakey1500 Greece Wed 17-Apr-13 21:00:41

DS also had a great vocabulary at an early age. And was a late walker, he didn't even start crawling until a week before his first birthday.

He's 6 now smile

The questions never stop. The only sage advice I have on that score is..............................................

Make sure your gin-rocking-chair is south facing grin

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:01:44

grin I will!

lovelyredwine Wed 17-Apr-13 21:02:54

My dd was also a late walker, but was already speaking in short sentences when she did walk.

candr Wed 17-Apr-13 21:04:16

Bless, he sounds like my DS. Not G&T but ahead of others their age. Within a few months others will have caught up and parents won't appreciate you saying how G&T yours is now as makes them feel crappy but feel as smug as you like on here and with family. Mine has loads of words and can carry out quite complicated tasks too especially compared to some of his friends but my mates (secretly) love the fact he is CRAP at sleeping as it stops him being too perfect, - still has tantrums though!

KLou111 Wed 17-Apr-13 21:06:48

My ds was walking by 1, running riot by 13 months smile Is that early?

catnipkitty Wed 17-Apr-13 21:08:48

My DD1 was the same - HV was amazed that she knew and could say her colours at 17months. She is now 9yrs old and not superbright, but has an amazing memory and is very bright and has always been ahead of her peers at school.

marriedinwhiteagain Wed 17-Apr-13 21:12:12

Well my DS was like that and he's 18 now and got 99% for GCSE Eng Lang and 98% for Eng Lit. But we fed him with books and conversation grin and now wish he would shut up and stop arguing.

seeker Wed 17-Apr-13 21:15:14

Mine was a freakishly early talker, but is bright but not super bright. She also couldn't wqlk til 17 months-

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:15:44

Much earlier than my DS Klou - he was 13 months when he walked and he still can't run (just a fast, wo) grin

candr I don't say anything to other people. I wouldn't do that! But on here felt like a safe place to ask if he was doing well and have a little proud moment. IRL I am typically British and play things down whilst bigging up other people and their lovely DCs grin

married that's brilliant! Is he doing A levels now?

mercibucket Wed 17-Apr-13 21:17:48

less g and t, more chatterbox

oh how your ears will ache grin mine never shut up

YoniShapedLoveBox Wed 17-Apr-13 21:19:09

Well my dd was fluent (speaking, reading and writing) in 4 languages at that age. She could also count until 5000 and knew all her colours and how you make a secondary colour from two primary colours.

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:22:25

shock

ummm...really?

catnipkitty Wed 17-Apr-13 21:23:00

hmm

MrsBungle Wed 17-Apr-13 21:24:07

My DD was like this at 17 months. Talking in full fluent sentences, could count to 15. She also never had tantrums and was a late walker. She never crawled and stood up and walked at 17 months.

She's not G&T I don't think but she is still extremely good verbally, big vocabulary. I think she is just really good at talking!

DS1 was also a late walker and fluent in language by 18 months. Could hold conversations. That caused some funny looks grin He is G&T though according to school but I'd never label him it and he hates the term.
DS2 was a late walker too but didn't talk much until 3. He remembers so much though it's unreal. So he was taking it all in just didn't want to talk.

Your ds sounds fantastic and they're so much fun at that age smile

OutragedFromLeeds Wed 17-Apr-13 21:26:51

'She could also count until 5000'

grin what happened after 5000? 5001 was just too much for her?!

Floggingmolly Wed 17-Apr-13 21:28:38

That's bloody good. Enjoy him, and sod the begrudgers!

Movingtimes Wed 17-Apr-13 21:29:49

OP, like others on here my eldest DD was speaking in full sentences well before 14/15 months but didn't walk until 18 months. She is not a genius but is bright - was reading super-early and is predicted mostly A*s and As in her GCSEs this year. (And she is funny and kind and also dyspraxic.) I would say, as would most on here I guess, that you don't need to do anything special beyond love him and be proud of him. Bright children need exactly the same as every other child does - parents who think they are the best thing that ever happened to them. Everything else follows.

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:30:48

Sounds like he's just a happy little chatterbox

That will do just fine for mesmile

I will just enjoy him thanks

GirlOutNumbered Wed 17-Apr-13 21:30:53

My son has only ever talked in sentences, his first word/s were 'there it is'.
He's three now and very able in the talking/socialising areas but I wouldn't say he was gifted. He can't even put his own shoes on and still struggles to run!

DS had similar as you. I'd say- teeny bit PFB but tbh, at that age, every little thing he did made me grin like a maniac and feel so proud. Irl, obviously I never mentioned a thing and was all 'oh, DS is doing fine. But, wow, your DC has such a bug vocabulary! You should be so proud of them!' And y'know what was worse? DS was my actual PSB and with DD I was quite laid back.

He walked at 11mnths, and ran at 17mnths. I don't know why the gap at walking, I'm certain it should be less than the giant 8mnths, but all I can think of is he's a lazy little thing who even now prefers a lie in to running around creating mess. A blessed relief after our hurricane of a DD but he talks in his sleep never mind daytime- he has no off switch hmm

19 mo and not a dicky bird here. Well maybe 'Nana' followed by frenzied pointing at the fruit bowl.

He is sporting a fine selection of brusies though, as early walking seems to have segued nicely into early mountain goat climbing, which is followed on fluently by early falling of high things, presumably knocking out the brain cells he needs to actually say 'Ouch'.

SolomanDaisy Wed 17-Apr-13 21:31:09

I find it hard to judge too, cos naturally I think DS is brilliant in every way grin. But then I spend some time with another child who's a similar age and think, 'omg, you're a genius too!' It's amazing how much they develop in the first two years and I think it's pretty natural to think your child is brilliant.

Fortunately MN has taught me that I should never, ever mention anything DS does that I think is extraordinary as it only pisses people off. I had to explain this to DH, who didn't realise you shouldn't mention this stuff to other people!

My DS2 did almost everything early including talking in sentences at 18 mths(and it is early even if others have children who did the same) and is very bright. Top of the class and all that - nobody has said he is G and T but then I am not sure they really use that label at his school. His teacher says he has the best vocab of any year 4 child she has ever met. <<proud>> And yes he is in Yr 4. grin

Strangely he never bothered with colours. He didn't appear to know them until he was at least 3 which was weird and I was a bit worried he was colour blind. He isn't. He made no attempt to read or write before starting school but excels at both now.

I think what I am saying is that your DS is probably quite advanced but don't expect it to continue in a steady upwards trajectory . It might but equally the little darlings do like to keep us on our toes and stop us getting too complacent so it might not. smile

TheSecondComing Wed 17-Apr-13 21:33:35

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marriedinwhiteagain Wed 17-Apr-13 21:34:02

IB Catgirl and thinks he'd run the LibDems better than Nick Clegg! We are literally counting the sleeps until he goes to uni and we can live in peace again. He has never stopped talking since he started !!

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:35:19

They all revert to grunts and hand gestures when they hit their teens anyway don't they? grin

Movingtimes Wed 17-Apr-13 21:36:55

I think boys do. Girls remain eloquent - possibly too much so.

golemmings Wed 17-Apr-13 21:37:46

DD was a great talker too. Her little brother can't get a word in edgeways which is why, at 18mo he only has about 5 words and a few signs. He does get frustrated though.

One thing we did with DD was a wordle. We made a list of all the words we thought she knew and then did a frequency chart of all of them as she used them one day. Then we drew a wordle. The words she used most were biggest and the words she used less were smaller. It's made a beautiful piece of artwork!

mashpot Wed 17-Apr-13 21:38:23

There are so many wonderful, talented toddlers. Does anyone have a 17 mo who can't walk and only has a few words vocab? I'm on the wrong thread I suppose!

catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 21:39:30

Wow TSC that's amazing....they all sound fab

Married I will be looking out for very eloquent Lib Dem leader in about 15 years time and wondering if it's your DS! smile

Floggingmolly Wed 17-Apr-13 21:39:56

That's pretty amazing, TSC.

Floggingmolly Wed 17-Apr-13 21:42:16

I had a three year old who wasn't speaking in sentences, mashpot.
He's nearly nine now, and totally fine. Don't worry smile

Feelingood Wed 17-Apr-13 21:43:56

Well my dd is 14 month and fluent in mandarin isn't that amazaballs.

And and she made reproduced a sculpture of Damien Hirsts after just one viewing, one viewing, fantabulous

TSC did your dd1 smile very early too? DS1 smiled and giggled at 2 weeks. PILs almost spat their tea when they saw/heard him. I videoed it to show HV as she said I was imagining it. Can't say I blame her looking back.

choccyp1g Portugal Wed 17-Apr-13 21:46:04

Golemmings I love those wordles, but I was a bit shocked to read that they were created by 3 year olds. Then I realised it meant 3 years ago grin

Sparklyboots Wed 17-Apr-13 21:46:32

We have a late talker but early walker - 9mo unassisted walking. Played it down loads in RL but felt v pleased.... He can now do headstands and flip himself over in a handstand at 2.3. More or less caught up in speaking now, and can read numbers and some of the alphabet - th ones that start familiar words like d for daddy an the initial of his own name. We think he's super but I'm from a large family an can hand on heart say that doing stuff early seems to have no correlation with aptitude as adults in our lot. Cept my cousin who had a photographic memory is now an architect, having drawn buildings and maps with accuracy and scale since he was a kid.

mashpot DS2 was the same as your toddler and he's great. 12 now and doing well at school. He has much more common sense that DS1. Dp reckons he'll end up doing really well as he's not work shy either. He came home tonight though and gave me and ds1 a right laugh. He said he needs to take an apple and orange to school tomorrow for knifing skills grin I asked if he needed a balaclava too wink

Movingtimes Wed 17-Apr-13 21:50:18

Mashpot - my sister didn't talk or walk until she was three. She never bloody shuts up now.

ShowOfHands Wed 17-Apr-13 21:53:08

Your son is amazing. Of course he is. In less than two years he's gone from vulnerable baby to chatty toddler. How much has he learnt in this short time? Be as pfb as you like. He sounds marvellous.

Agree with the others though, I had one who was talking in sentences well before 18 months (we have a similar first birthday vid to tsc) and they don't ever stop. Thankfully I love it and at 5yo, dd is old enough to read Harry Potter to ME as a bedtime story. Sod G&T, that's where it's really at.

Your son sounds brilliant.

candr Wed 17-Apr-13 21:54:01

Mashpot, Ds has a big group of friends his age (19m) and they are all at different stages, some only have 1/2 words, a couple only sign, one doesn't walk and one still has no teeth. Some sleep through, some (mine) don't sleep well, some are clingy and others are scarily confident (and real climbers - mine again) They all have their good and bad points but makes us feel a bit more equal with eachother though there are 2 others who speak as much as my DS which stops me showing off about it which is prob good thing. They all level out eventually but I used to giggle when I had parents from my class telling me their kids were G&T and they were often below average but knew 20 world flags when put in same order as poster at home or could name 50 birds but not identify a single one by sight.

LazyMonkeyButler Wed 17-Apr-13 21:54:47

GirlOutNumbered - that's exactly what DD first said "there it is" grin.

Onemole Wed 17-Apr-13 21:57:35

Dd1 only said 'mum' at 17 months. Dd1 is now five and has just learned all the letters.

Dd2 spoke in 3-4 word sentences at 11 months, knew all shapes and colours at 14 months and letters and numbers at 16 months.

Ds is 11 months and says 'mum, dad, duck and don't touch'

They are all fine!

TheSecondComing Wed 17-Apr-13 21:57:39

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catgirl1976 England Wed 17-Apr-13 22:00:15

My favourite word is 'Mommma'

It makes me burst with happiness smile

ShowOfHands Wed 17-Apr-13 22:02:32

candr, my ds is 19mo too and another mother at toddler group has a dd the same age and she was absolutely amazed at her dd's reading skills. You see, when they were watching one programme on cbeebies and she puts the guide on, her dd knew what came next. She READ it, she can actually READ. Her dh came along last week and muttered 'fgs, she watches Mr Bloody Tumble every day, of course she knows he's on after that twat with the stethoscope. Read my arse". Other mother was v gracious and laughed once her dh had pointed it out. Toddlers have brilliant memories, you just have to capture their imaginations. With ds for example, it's tools. He knows the location of every single tool in the whole house, how exactly to climb to get each one and more impressively, how to time it to climb up the bloody bookcase when mummy isn't flipping looking. "Me won hammer" is the phrase du jour.

difficultpickle Wed 17-Apr-13 22:03:16

Talking early is great. Ds was the same. He is 8 now and hasn't really stopped since he started. He even talks in his sleep. He's not G&T. Everyone goes on about how 'bright' he is but I think that is more because of his advanced vocab than anything else.

Fudgemallowdelight Wed 17-Apr-13 22:03:49

I was a talker rather than a walker. I didn't walk until I was 18 months old but was talking in sentences before then apparently.

ShowOfHands Wed 17-Apr-13 22:05:04

Momma's great catgirl, but does it have the surprise element of a whispered 'uh oh' from the other room? grin

He sounds lovely, as do you. smile My DS was a latish talker but very quickly caught up, had a very wide vocabulary by the time he was 2.

My advice would be to read to him every day. Let him watch some quality tv (cbeebies) once in a while, to give your brain a rest, and teach him new things. My DS loved those picture books where everything is labeled. My little chatter box is in reception now. He's bright, but not what I would call G&T. He's summer born and keeping up with the September born who Are in the top set with him.

Relax and enjoy x

simpson England Wed 17-Apr-13 22:10:36

DD (now 5) spoke in full sentences at 18 mths, I remember her telling me she did not want a bath as she would be cold when she got out (at 18mths).

But she needed physio to help her walk at 2.

She is now 5 and does not shut the fuck up, literally talks till my ears bleed blush

DontSHOUTTTTTT Wed 17-Apr-13 22:12:12

You are being very PFB smile but good for you.

I think it is a really interesting age as different kids have such different abilities.
Two of mine spoke and read very early while the other one spoke and learnt to read at a more typical age. Guess which one is, by far, the most articulate and literate grin ........... .???

I do think it is good when kids speak early. It is fun and I think they get less frustrated.

YoniYoniNameLeft Wed 17-Apr-13 22:19:37

They are so amazing at this age! They're like little sponges and are a lot more intelligent than we give them credit for. Even the ones that talk later - they're watching and taking it all in. grin

DD1 was talking in sentences early. She could count to 3 by 16 months and count to 10 by 18 months. She knew all of her colours and shapes by 2. She's five now and isn't G&T but I imagine that there are some children who don't do all those things in toddler hood and will be G&T at 5, iyswim.

DD2 is 2.2 and has only, the last couple of months, started speaking I'm sentences. We had a fluke yesterday where she counted to ten for the first time but now she's back to "2,8,9,10" grin.

AstonishingMouse Wed 17-Apr-13 22:20:42

Catgirl, I always think the being able to recognise two thing is cool
Children can recognise two things, and then recognise three things, but for larger numbers they have to be able to actually count. So often they can recognise two and then three when they are really little but then can't count properly to get them from 4 to 10 and onwards until they are quite a bit older.

YoniYoniNameLeft Wed 17-Apr-13 22:25:47

Btw, DD1 talks from the minute she wakes till the minute her eyes close. Literally!

She talks and even when she has nothing to say she'll talk for the sake of talking. I actually told her once that I would give her twenty pence if she could stop talking for two minutes (we were travelling back from holiday late at night, I was shattered and she hadn't stopped chattering since we had stepped on the coach - you know those times when you need two minutes to collect your thoughts). She told me that she loves chatting.

catgirl1976 England Thu 18-Apr-13 08:43:28

Thank you all for being so lovely and excusing my PFB moment smile

I have decided he is G&T: "Gorgeous and Talkative" grin

DeWe Thu 18-Apr-13 09:37:50

grin
He can be G&T for that grin

But not as pfb as the person I met in toddler group who was raging about her HV. At the 2 year check they asked if pfb said 50 words and she answered "He says 119, I think he must be a genius!" and the HV looked at her hmm Apparently the HV didn't know genius when she saw it. grin She was going to complain to her GP.
He apparently could read the word "park" at 3 years, which also made him a genius, because whenever they drove past his favourite park he said "park" and he couldn't see the playground from the road, just the sign that said "park" so he was obviously reading it.

catgirl1976 England Thu 18-Apr-13 13:28:09

grin

That's brilliant DeWe

I'm glad I'm not that bad yet smile

marriedinwhiteagain Thu 18-Apr-13 19:53:57

DS was an absolute sponge - at 18 months he started saying "you wanker" at random moments in front of people like his grannie. We thought for a while he might have tourettes. The we realised he said it every time he heard a car horn and linked it back to his father who, every time he hit the hooter, said "you wanker" grin blush.

DD didn't talk as much but she is much better at numbers smile.

Enjoy him Catgirl.

gfrnn Mon 22-Apr-13 23:22:10

DS was an early talker. He was very interested in cars, lorries etc. Every time the bin men came round he'd insist on going onto the balcony and shouting "big truck, big truck"

Except, at around 12 months, he couldn't quite pull off the "TR" and it came out sounding like "F".

Not sure who laughed more - the bin men or us.

Pearlington Sat 15-Jun-13 19:44:48

For what it's worth, and ignoring the unpleasant poster who was sarcastic about advanced babies earlier, my DD spoke over 700 words at that age, spoke in complex sentences, could read all the letters and numbers and decode simple words, counted to 50, knew the Latin names of many plants, had started drawing faces (had proper pincer grip from 14m). No we didn't hothouse or push (I was actually pretty scared by it all rather than proud: I think most parents of kids who do things super early get freaked out - she suddenly started pointing out and naming letters at 11 months and I actually remember my stomach turning). She may well be gifted - she's six now and her reading age is adult - but it all brings enormous challenges and I wouldn't wish for it to be honest. It sounds like your child is doing really well, so encourage him and enjoy it!

cory Sun 16-Jun-13 17:07:54

To be fair, being able to say the flower name in Latin rather than in English doesn't actually denote greater cleverness: a baby won't know that this is Latin and that it's supposed to be more difficult (any more than a Roman baby would have done wink); to her they are just sounds. A Welsh baby isn't cleverer because he says words in Welsh and not in English.

But 700 words is certainly pretty impressive. And letters at 11 months- again pretty impressive. smile

Pearlington Tue 18-Jun-13 06:46:17

Lol. My point about Latin names is not what language they are but that they tend to be long and hard to say and applying these complex words correctly to different species of plant was pretty surprising to us when her peers were still just about saying flower, let alone knowing which one is a hydrangea or a rhododendron or being able to say those words. There's a hell of a lot of complex processing involved in forming those words, telling the difference between the two plants, let alone 20 plants and matching the correct name.

Trust me if I listed all the stuff she knew and discussed at that age you wouldn't think she was normal. When your child does freaky stuff all the time it does add up. I just used that as an example because it's easy to explain briefly.

I personally didn't find any of it impressive. I found it upsetting and scary. I don't think anyone should want their kids to be too different because it doesn't make for an easy ride or a happy life. I was constantly embarrassed at toddler groups and around other parents. Ppl were so freaked out by her. Pointing out a hellebores in a friend's garden didn't make that easier, nor correcting ppl that the dinosaur they were pointing too wasn't just "dinosaur" but a parasaurolophus (perfectly pronounced). Or being able to say and explain onomatopoeia. Yes she got the information from somewhere but a 17 month old doesn't normally retain or know how to apply that kind of stuff.

FaddyPeony Tue 18-Jun-13 16:25:06

OP he sounds just gorgeous and very like my dd who is not quite 17months. She's a chatty little moo and an awful lot of fun. I am trying to not be too pfb about her but she is really very lovely. Like a pp said, though, my DH is less able to control himself - I think he has his work colleagues bored stupid about her!

Pearlington your DD sounds truly extraordinary - I am sure you hear that all the time. I have honestly never heard anything quite like what you're describing. Have you come into contact with other children like your DD? I'd absolutely believe that it's a worry for a parent and not necessarily constant opportunities for secret pfb gloating. My sister is gifted but it's so very hard on little ones to deal with all that knowledge.

jojane Tue 18-Jun-13 16:39:34

I have 3 children who are all so totally different it's unbelievable!!
They were all very very early walkers (9.5-10 months) but ds1 didn't utter a word until 2 and 3 months whereas dd was talking and having complete adult conversations at 18 months (and she still doesn't stop talking now at 4!) ds2 is somewhere in the middle. Ds1 has a reading age of 14+ yet still can't put his socks on! I agree with a previous poster who said they wish thier child was a bit more "normal" ( for lack of a better word, it makes it sound like saying he's abnormal which isn't nice). Yes ds1 Can talk to you about space and nebulas and subspecies of animals and the romans and chemistry and scientific names for everything and what ever other subject is his favourite this week but he struggles socially etc.

Pearlington Wed 19-Jun-13 07:55:14

FaddyPeony - yes, definitely no gloating involved. I heard hushed comments from other parents in our circle and I just learned really fast never to tell ppl what dd was up to when they were busy comparing notes (eg at preschool "oh my kid knows the first few letters of the alphabet" " wow, my kid hasn't done that yet but she memorises her books. How about yours?" "Yeah, she's coming on ok"). It was a bit lonely at times.

I've just focused on her social skills more than anything to help her fit in and we've been commended by her teachers on how well adjusted she is for a kid at her level. She has tonnes of friends and can play with older kids or younger kids with ease. She runs into emotional difficulties a lot because she works out things that she shouldn't really be thinking about but she can't put it in context so she makes herself anxious. The school has been really on top of it and say its a common issue for kids with her level of advance.

I don't know any kids like her but I belong to a charity that helps families like us navigate the minefield and so I meet parents on their forum with kids in way more trouble than mine!!! ;-) I hope to go to one of their special weekends sometime to meet other parents and get some education myself on how to deal with it all. Also they put the kids together and give them great opportunities to do fun stuff in line with their interests so it's good for them too.

Thanks so much for understanding. There are always ppl who'll think we are deluded vain parents (hence why the only place I talk about this stuff is on specialised forums, and even here I seem to have provoked some unpleasant comments). Many of these children have bad experiences at school and become chronic underachievers so it's definitely nothing to brag about, rather something to worry about and manage.

jojane Wed 19-Jun-13 10:27:00

Pearlington, do you mind if I ask what forum it is? I feel like I need to get help with ds1 with aspects of him that aren't easy to get help with (e.g, he has hyper mobility and poor muscle tone so is getting physio and hydrotherapy, but it isn't so easy to know what to do with regards to social skills or his insistence on a million questions a day or his thirst for knowledge or the fact he likes to read the diary etc!. I also feel like we are focussing so much on the things is isn't good at that we are neglecting the things he IS good at and don't know if we should be pushing him academically rather than letting him coast along.?)

jojane Wed 19-Jun-13 10:27:41

Dictionary not diary!

Pearlington Wed 19-Jun-13 13:58:31

Sure, it's potential plus uk - they just rebranded from national association for gifted children. You have to join to get access but I appreciate the resources and support available. They do phone consultations too.

RiversideMum Sat 03-Aug-13 11:57:01

My DD also a fluent talker at that age. DS on the other hand ...

waterhorse123 Wed 16-Oct-13 14:46:06

My DD was talking in full sentences at 15 months old and was able to skip Year 6 and go to selective secondary school. We never had her IQ measured but it must have been very high and there was no G and T then (I would have thought it was a gin and tonic I expect).
She started talking at about 8 months old and never stopped.
DS2 turned out to have a massive IQ as he got measured when he was diagnosed Aspergers. I imagine DD and her brother DS1 likewise had similar IQs but not the aspergers. However DS1 rather amusingly was as silent as DD was garulous and was ages before he deigned to speak.
All are exceptionally bright.
They now have a younger brother (they are all grown up and have flown the nest) who already has an IGCSE at age 12, and who came top in the entrance exam for his chosen selective school. He too has been measured as having a huge IQ but he is dyspraxic.
Interestingly none of them were early readers but all showed signs of talent in different ways very early on.
DS3, the youngest, would sit in his car seat telling us which way to go to get to places and get very irate if he thought we had gone the wrong way.
DS3 is much happier in adult company and doesn't much care for children his own age, not having many interests in common with them. This is very difficult indeed as everyone seems to think if he doesn't socialise with children his own age he is somehow missing out.
My opinion is that once he has left school he will be able to socialise with adults (which he prefers) and will be thought very odd if he tries to socialise with children. So why force him to now. All adults who meet him think he is fine (unless they are teachers who think he should get on better with children than adults) and are surprised when we say he is supposed to have communication problems.
Oh well, can't win them all.

29chapel Wed 16-Oct-13 14:50:52

My DD was speaking in full sentences at that age and her nursery had her assessed by a senco - they were unsure if she was gifted. Turned out she wasn't - she's now 8 and although her reading age is much older, she is average at everything else - just to warn you ;-)

blueberryupsidedown Wed 23-Oct-13 18:38:35

DS didn't say a single word until he was 3 years old and is G&T in maths, and has a reading age of 9 (he is 6 years old and in year 2). In my mind, there is very little to prove that early speech is equivalent to G&T. In some cases maybe, but I am yet to see any statistics that support an early talking child to G&T.

CloverkissSparklecheeks Thu 14-Nov-13 14:45:57

There is no way you could tell if a child will be g&t at that age as non talkers may be gifted later on but it maybe an early indicator.

Like others DS1 was speaking in proper sentences at that age, walked at 9.5 months and could read properly at age 3. He is g&t now at age 7. Another child who was at his infant school wad very much the same as him until y2 then just plateaued. DS2 has always been pretty much average for all mile stones and is now on Y1, we just keep being told he is different by his teachers grin

I think development varies hugely and some slower starters can be very giftedbince at school.

40 words at 17 months is way above average!

WiseKneeHair Thu 14-Nov-13 14:50:12

DS1 was similar at that age. He is now 11 and WON'T SHUT UP!
Honestly, he has verbal diarrhoea. I just wish sometime he could be quiet.
grin

DS is 16 mo and is about the same stage with talking and understanding. I haven't counted his words but he will repeat anything I ask him to now and has 3 word sentences. He understands quite complex 2 or 3 stage instructions too but is very fond of telling me when he doesn't want to follow them! I would say he is ahead of peers like your LO but not really gifted...especially judging against some others on here!

However he's certainly gifted physically as he took his first steps at 6.5 months and was walking well by 7 months old, running by a year and jumping at 15 mo.

Like the other poster I always play it down IRL.

mrsshearsagain Sun 17-Nov-13 18:30:12

Dd3 is just turned 17mths and Like moresnowplease Ds, she will repeat almost anything you say to her, is talking in full sentences her favourite phrase is 'And she goes...BUMP' which is said just before she jumps on you!
She understands multi step instructions and has recently made us aware she has a sight word, dd2 has a very high IQ but was very different personality wise to dd3 as a baby, 17mths is quite early to say gifted or not although having said that I was well aware dd2 was different very early on, with dd3 however I'm on the fence.

40 words is excellent :0) I know 3 g&t kids, two are mine, one of them was about the same as your son at this stage, my daughter was having conversations at that stage and was able to join in her favourite story (saying words from memory)
My friends son could read fluently at just shy of 2 years and do simple addition and subtraction
My two are top of their year at selective private primary (don't do g&t but both are regarded as exceptional in their year group) friends son is y2, birthday in July and is working with the higher ability group in y4 in English and maths. He is recognised as g&t

richmal Tue 10-Dec-13 08:16:02

I think it is a sign of the vocal chords having developed enough to allow speech.

IME, however, that teaching him things like numbers, etc will make him more able than others in these areas.

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