Finally got the 'I am bored' attitude...

(9 Posts)
Blue4ever Tue 20-Sep-16 12:53:12

DS is G&T in maths, more like in the top 10% rather than the genius category, and is top of the class at English. He is in year 5 and his behaviour and attitude have always been positive, good support from the school, no major issues. He now has an NQT, she has decided to sit the children differently so DS is with one other more able child and three children who really struggle in maths. I initially thought that's ok, he will step up and help the others, but honestly he is really struggling. One of the children can't do 10-5 in her head and ds tries to explain to her how to subtract negative numbers. He keeps on telling me 'she is just not listening, I don't know how to explain it to her' and yesterday, the bombshell, 'I am learning absolutely nothing this year and I am BbOoOoooored...'

Do I just tell him to stick with it for a little while or do I say something straight away?

JustRichmal Tue 20-Sep-16 15:08:22

Is he supposed to be teaching maths to the others or does he keep getting asked?

irvineoneohone Tue 20-Sep-16 15:10:27

Talk to school and hopefully school does something about it, if not, try some of these?

wild.maths.org/

www.artofproblemsolving.com/videos

www.khanacademy.org/math

www.mangahigh.com/en-gb/

mathswebsite.com/

Blue4ever Tue 20-Sep-16 16:05:19

He finishes his work, does the extensions, and then when he is done he is asked by the teacher to help one of the children on his table. The problem is that the other children are really struggling to understand even the most basic maths exercises. If they were just average it would be fine, but they are the lowest attainers in the class. He doesn't know where to start and how to help a child who can't take 5 from 10.

irvineoneohone Tue 20-Sep-16 18:03:40

My ds is sometimes put on to the task of helping least able children. I find it helps him better, rather than helping children who are ok/ expected levels.(Who seems to just want to know the right answer. )
To teach somebody who doesn't get basics, he really needs to break it down the concept to try and explain it to them. I think it really helps to think about how his brain works, which normally he doesn't even think about it.
He has been doing this since start of school life. I already lost hope of school to extend him. It's not ideal, but he is fine, enjoying school, just do extra at home.

JustRichmal Wed 21-Sep-16 08:16:02

The ability to do maths and explain maths to a child who is struggling with it are two very separate skills. The later takes a lot of patience and ability to really concentrate on the child you are teaching to know where their ability is and how you can help them to increase their understanding.
I would have a meeting with the teacher explain your son does not like explaining maths to others. The teacher will probably explain that one of the best way of learning maths is to explain it to others rather than differentiation is nearly impossible over a wide ability range so she needs TAs.
I would say the best outcome you could get is if you get the agreement that once he has finished the extension work, he gets on with work you set him from home.

irvineoneohone Wed 21-Sep-16 08:34:03

Hope it works out for you, OP.
I had a conversation with my ds which really depressed me.
He says he loves school, enjoys it, but he also said he sometimes feels like he's wasting so much time at school when he can do so much more if he was at home.
I had numerous conversations with teachers over the years, but seems like our school is not interested.

IsayIdontknow Wed 21-Sep-16 12:03:32

It does sound depressing Irvine. DS is in Y2, I am gradually coming to terms with the fact that his school is not serving him well. In YR and Y1 he was still young and it was hard to gauge what he is like academically, but it has since emerged that he is quite capable. The sadness for me is that so much of his time is wasted during the school day. The school placed so much importance on English and Maths at the expense of everything else that it is sucking the joy out of his school day. And he can actually manage the curriculum well so he doesn't need so much English and definitely not the Maths that repeats and repeats concepts that he has grasped. He could be having fun group learning musicianship or practicing his ball skills or doing drama to embed learning literacy. These are provisions that will actually benefit him, but they all sounds like pipe dreams. How, as one parent, can I change this situation?

Greenleave Tue 27-Sep-16 07:43:21

Mine was bored, we then started picking up music. You can never get bored with it. If they feel unchallenged then there are exams, competitions, you have to work hard and repetition is the key. She hasnt complained since, there is so much to learn. And I can put my feet up and relaxed...

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