End of year 3 and graded at a 4c is this good?

(34 Posts)
Souredstones Sat 13-Jul-13 07:51:08

Title says if all really. My child is g&t for most subjects but is way ahead of her peers in maths and literacy. We got the school reports yesterday and no clue as to where they should be at what age so I have no idea what a 4c means and where that puts her

Thanks in advance

iseenodust Tue 16-Jul-13 13:09:12

Jinsei has spoken a lot of good sense.

DS got 4c's at the end of yr3. He's on G&T for maths but not English so I consider it advanced but not exceptionally so.

Acinonyx Tue 16-Jul-13 13:20:11

Souredstones - threads in this section always get snide remarks - you get used to it wink IIWY I'd be interested to see what they are expecting for her next year. It really helps if there are other children at that level - the more the better (we have a few).

Pique - dd is also a summer baby which I actually think is a good thing - I don't think being yet another year further ahead would help us at all [shocked] It does have consequences though as she is not as socially smart as she could be hmm and in fact if she were the oldest I think in that regard she would still be one of the youngest IYSWIM. That has knock on consequences for her powers of literary inference - hard to understand people's behaviour in a book that she similarly wouldn't understand in real life - in fact reading has really helped her in real life probably as much if not more than the other way around.

I agree they need new stuff. I did a bit of algebra with dd the other day. She'd heard me talking about it for some reason with a friend and started mithering me about it. I wouldn't have thought of agreeing to teach it but for another thread on here where someone had taught it to their 7 yr-old. So I though - why not? Nice to see her actually wanting to do something a bit challenging for once - shame to let the opportunity pass. Some useful ideas on here sometimes!

Maths is really the tricky one at yr5-6 - as mentioned, literacy is so much easier to stretch within the general lesson plan. I really don't know if that's going to be an issue for us or not yet - dd is rather unenthusiastic about maths generally.

titchy Tue 16-Jul-13 13:22:44

You posted on G & T....
You said in your OP your child is way ahead in maths and literacy...

Do you really think people would say his reported level would be bad? Why would you even need to ask if it was good? You mentioned nothing about the possible consequence of being in a mixed y3/y4 class.... therefore your post was really just a 'look at me and my kid' boasty post.

AvonCallingBarksdale Tue 16-Jul-13 13:55:41

I think 4C is very good at the end of year 3. However, it's not jaw-to-the-ground-OMG-this-child-is-a-genius type of good.

keepsmiling12345 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:15:59

And OP, a 30 second google search would have given you information about the levels if you really didn't know anything about them...if your concern was that your DC is going into a mixed y3/y4 class, you could have posted about that. Instead you posted that your DC is "way ahead of her peers"...well guess what, you are going to get a lot of responses on a MN G&T board saying that really your dd isn't that far ahead. Is that what you wanted?

Dixiefish Wed 17-Jul-13 12:24:26

I would have expected a child who was 'streets ahead' to get higher than 4c at the end of Year 3, at least in reading. My DDs both got this in English (3A in maths) and though they're bright they're by no means exceptional and there are definitely more able kids in the year.

Acinonyx Wed 17-Jul-13 15:43:12

It does depend on the year group and catchment. I have friend whose dd is a high 4 end yr 3 and is the only free reader in her entire class - so there must be quite a gap there.

RustyBear Wed 17-Jul-13 15:51:49

Piqueaboo:"I blame Secondary because they tend to have lots of staff in manglement jobs" Love the typo!

At the school I work at the top Maths sets routinely do work from the year above, including Year 7 work in Y6; the secondary school that most of them go to also sends a teacher to take a group every week for extension work.

Norudeshitrequired Tue 01-Oct-13 10:19:32

I would have expected a child who was 'streets ahead' to get higher than 4c at the end of Year 3, at least in reading. My DDs both got this in English (3A in maths) and though they're bright they're by no means exceptional and there are definitely more able kids in the year.

A lot of schools only test to a certain level at the end of year 3. If they haven't offered a test that allows for the child to get higher than a 4c then the child can only get a 4c regardless of how capable they are of achieving higher.

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