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Urgent question re gallbladder recovery and whether this is normal...:(

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Hi
Had my gb out 4 weeks ago.
I then got a chest infection 2 weeks ago.
Since then I have had the most horrendous pain in my ribs, under my breast and my back.
I went to the gp on Xmas eve and she said she thinks it's musculoskeletal but reading google (I know, I know...) it could be a bile duct injury sad
I don't have a fever or jaundice but do feel nauseous.
The pain isn't all the time, it comes and goes, but when it hits it's bad.
Am taking paracetamol and ibuprofen.
Help!
Wwyd?
Any point going back to gp tomorrow?
Don't want to end up in a and e on a Sunday - they won't do anything anyway (bitter experience from prior to my op sad)

lougle Sun 29-Dec-13 15:49:25

What is your breathing like?

AliceinWinterWonderland Sun 29-Dec-13 15:53:05

When you say "since then" do you mean since the gb was out? Or since the chest infection?

If since the chest infection, is there a possibility of pneumonia or pleurisy? Jot down when the pain is occurring to see if there's a pattern - is it when you move? when you breathe? not related to either? Worse in any position?

Be careful when googling - it's always a bad thing! But if any concern, the best bet is always to get it checked out. After hours or A&E today or GP tomorrow again.

It's ok Lougle.
Just can't get in a comfy position.
Pain was really bad fri night sad I stayed in bed all day yesterday!
Gp checked my sats and listened to my chest on Xmas eve and felt my back and abdo.
Am living in painkiller ATM!
I was just wondering about pluerisy....sad

Tbh I have had pain in and off since I had the op.

If I ring 111 they will want us to go in. Sigh.
Supposed to be going to mils soon!
If they send me for a cxr it won't be done today anyway, will it?

Doesn't hurt when I breath in or cough.
But when It hits it's awful...

lougle Sun 29-Dec-13 16:14:57

Do you have any sign of jaundice?

Tbh, if your sats were good, you don't have trouble breathing, no pain on coughing and it's intermittent, then it doesn't sound like pleurisy.

I don't think so, no. I don't look yellow, nor the whites of my eyes.
No fever.
I am trying to be logical and sensible but Its hard when you are in pain sad

I am mostly worried about a PE (although I am not short of breath) or bile duct injury.
The way things have been going lately, neither would surprise me sad

lougle Sun 29-Dec-13 16:45:22

Well the symptoms of a PE are shortness of breath, pain when breathing in, coughing, fainting, dizziness, or feeling light headed. Similar to the symptoms of pleurisy.

It doesn't sound as though you have those symptoms, apart from the periodic pains.

If the pain relief you have been given isn't managing your symptoms, you need to ask for some stronger stuff. If you feel that you need to be seen today, then phone 111.

You're obviously worried about your symptoms, and it wouldn't be wise for anyone on MN to say that you shouldn't be - they can't see you! If the pain is so severe that you are worried, get yourself seen!

Just a wee thought here - when you are in pain, if you lean forwards, whether standing or sitting, does the pain ease at all? Also, have you taken any painkillers containing codeine?

If yes to the first, then I'd ring out of hours and ask to be seen, as it's a sign that there could be a problem with the bile duct/pancreas.

If it's the second, then as someone with a bile duct injury, I recently found out that taking a product containing codeine is a bad thing, as it makes the duct contract and become more painful.

And, in case you didn't know, stones can still be produced without a gall bladder, they slowly form in the bile duct and can be very painful as they travel through your system.

Hope it all eases for you.

AliceinWinterWonderland Sun 29-Dec-13 18:48:56

If I ring 111 they will want us to go in.

Think about that for a minute. If you think it needs to be checked, get it checked. Better safe than sorry. Medical professionals would much rather see something nonurgent than have you come in later by ambulance with a serious problem that could have been treated sooner if you'd come in.

Hi all.
Just back from a and e.
Rang 111 and they sent a Bloody ambulance!
Anyway....had bloods and a cxr and all clear.
Which is good.
But I am still in such pain sad
Basically dr said its muscular pain from my chest infection - which seems mad to me. Can't believe I am in so much pain from a cough!
Said to leave it a week and if it's no better go back to gp.
Thanks for the advice earlier x

Tapir..gosh I'm sorry to hear you had a bd injury. How did it present?
My bloods were ok so I am guessing that means my liver tests were ok which they wouldn't be if I had a bile duct injury?
Go back to see the consultant a week on weds.
Not a good idea to get a chest infection post op is it!? sad

lougle Sun 29-Dec-13 22:43:24

Badvoc, sorry you're still feeling rough, but glad your bloods etc., came back ok.

Can I ask, gently, if you have ever suffered from health anxiety? You seem quite anxious still, despite having been checked out by A&E and a GP.

AliceinWinterWonderland Sun 29-Dec-13 23:14:40

Badvoc glad you've been checked out. Always better if there's any concern in these situations. Hope you recover quickly.

Just to add, not surprised that you are in a lot of pain with a muscular strain post op. Had my gallbladder out in the summer and was v tender for weeks. Currently have muscular strain from coughing for last 6 weeks and it is v sore. Would have been agony to have the two together! Don't be too hard on yourself, hope you feel better soon.

grumpyoldbookworm Sun 29-Dec-13 23:23:29

It could be that you have a gall stone that was not removed with the gall bladder and is causing a blockage. This could be seen by ultrasound. I had my gall bladder removed (and now have a little pot of about 30 souvenir gall stones!) and I was warned that because the stones were small ones it was possible that one or two could have escaped. If the pain is similar to gall stone pain from before the op this could be why. Good luck

I had my gb out last summer. All was well... then I had the pain AGAIN 5 days later. I was re-admitted to hospital and scanned again (ultrasound and MRI). This happened again about 2 weeks later. It turned out that I had passed some tiny stones (micro calculi?) that had escaped when they removed my gb. Could something like this be causing your pain? Hope you start to feel better soon, good luck!

Thank you.
Lougle...after the year I have had...yes. That's a distinct possibility. But the pain is real I assure you.

Going...really? I am quite shocked at how much pain I am in and prior to this I would have said I had a pretty high pain threshold...evidently not!

Iluff...the dr was quite dismissive when I said I was worried about more stones. Said I wouldn't have the pain where it is...
My liver function tests must have been ok. And the cxr is clear. So no infection, although my temp is slightly raised.
Am so fed up of having to much pain killers all day sad

lougle Mon 30-Dec-13 00:01:17

I totally believe you,badvoc. I just thought that if HA was applicable then it's worth mentioning because lots of very benign problems can cause a very high level of pain, which may be a little reassuring.

Benign problems...they are the sort I like smile

lougle Mon 30-Dec-13 00:26:06

smile

Oh yes, I would definitely been in agony with both together. I had pancreatitis before I had my gallbladder out, so no stranger to pain either.

Sorry the docs haven't been understanding, it really doesn't help you much. How are you feeling today?

Hi
Ok ish.
Had an ok night...not too much pain.
How have you ben since having your Gb out going.?

Not too bad at all - would say I was in bed for about 5 days, then up and about but still tender and tired for another month. Completely better and energy levels back in about 8 weeks I think. No probs with digestion, eating a completely normal diet now.

Glad you feel a little better. I went to the doc last Tues with the cough induced muscle strain and that feels pretty much better now if that gives you an idea of recovery from that. As I said, would not have relished the two together at all. Please go back for another opinion if you're still in a lot of pain though, hopefully you will see a more sympathetic practitioner next time.

Hmmm..yes.
I only really had 24 hours rest after my op as sadly my ds2 was sent home ill from school so the rest of the week I was clearing up sick and diahorrea sad oh, and Dh went easy with work for 2 days! Not ideal.
Then I got this chest infection...
No wonder I feel bad sad

Omg, no wonder then. You poor thing - rope in any support you can. brew for you.

Oops RL dragged me away Badvoc

I got the injury after having my gallbladder removed - a stone was squeezed out during the op (undetected) and lodged in the duct. I developed acute pancreatitis not long after surgery, and the procedure to remove it damaged things.

It's taken a few years to actually find this out though - the hospital tried to cover things up.

Badvoc Tue 31-Dec-13 09:20:25

Oh how awful sad I'm so sorry. Was it ERCP you had?
Well, I am still in pain, but not so bad.
It's very odd.
Sometimes it on The right side - like now - sometimes it's on the left, sometimes in the centre and through to my back!
My dh goes back to work on thurs And I am worried how I will manage alone with the dc tbh sad
Felt quite sick last night too.
No one seems to know what it could be sad

Yes, an ERCP. I've ended up with a stent because of scarring.

Try googling post cholecystectomy syndrome - it affects around 10% of post op patients. It is also possible that it's just taking time for your body to adjust sad

Badvoc Tue 31-Dec-13 15:22:39

Oh you poor thing! sad
I have googled ERpc and it seems to have quite a lot of complications.
The irony is my consultant said my gb wasn't too bad...but the other stone was at the entrance/exit of the gb and bile was building up behind it/couldn't be released.
He may want me to have a Scan I guess but I would be very wary of having an ERpc from what I have read.
I am cutting out gluten and dairy to see if that helps.
I am fairly sure I am gluten and dairy intolerant - mum is coeliac - so will see if that helps!
I plan on doing very little til dh goes back to work...will see if that helps too.
X

I hope they find out quickly what's wrong with you Badvoc. I had an erpc but they couldn't find anything, and assumed (as I'd also had no more symptons) I'd passed the small stones that had been left behind. Hope you get sorted soon.

The sad thing was that I needed the ERCP, or it would have been major surgery. I just wish that it had gone better (or that I was awake for it).

I've found that a diet low in gluten helps with some of the more horrible side effects, dairy has no effect, a low fat diet is good, and cutting out onions is of major benefit, but YMMV on that.

How are you today?

Badvoc Wed 01-Jan-14 22:53:29

Tapir....I am doing gf/wheat free. Doing ok, but it's hard. My diet was v v wheat heavy.
Have had a bit of dairy today (leftover Xmas choc and a splash of milk) but I don't have much anyway and I have none of the symptoms of milk intolerance so,I think that may be a red herring for me.
I feel ok ish. Only twinges, no more bad pain, but I have been Doing very little. Plan to continue to! smile
My sis had her gb out (open op, much worse than mine) and has had no issues other than one attack very like a gb attack since (and this was 6 years ago)
I see the consultant a week today so we shall see what he says...
I certainly need to take better care of myself.....if these last weeks have taught me anything, it's that.
I have been looking at dr briffa/low carb/wheat free diet again...I lost 1.5 stones doing it in 2012 and am cross I stopped.
Iluff...I hope if they were there I passed them!
I certainly don't need to lose anymore weight (am now down to 9 stone) but I need to do this for my health.
I will let you know hoe I get on.
Thank you for the sympathy and advice! X

Anytime Badvoc - I went through a hellish time after mine, and was down to 7 stone!

Will keep my fingers crossed that everything continues to improve for you x

Badvoc Thu 02-Jan-14 08:05:46

Felt quite icky last night sad
Still getting odd pains where my gallbladder was iyswim?
ESP if I turn on that side when asleep.
Dh back to work today sad
Hope the dc are happy to have a pj day!

Just a quick question - has anyone (ie a doctor) mentioned prescribing you something like omeprazole/lansoprazole? I've been taking it since my op, as some of my pain was caused by the acid/bile always being 'on' IYSWIM.

Are you taking any painkillers at all?

Badvoc Thu 02-Jan-14 18:53:44

I have been on those meds before and am now on Zantac 300mg for GERD and have been for 6 years since pg with ds2 sad
I am desperate to get off them.
I am trying not to take painkillers unless I really need them...haven't taken any for 2 days as it's more of an achey pain now.
Seems to be worse when I have been carrying anything/stretching etc

Tbh, I'd stay on the Zantac. It's the gold standard treatment for GERD, and coming off it may make things more painful.

Other than that, it sounds like your body is adjusting to life without the gallbladder, and is healing nicely.

You'll know not to take any NSAID's for a while?

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 07:43:05

Ugh....awful night last night...bad pain in centre of stomach going straight through to back sad
Lasted about 20 mins.
I took ibuprofen!
Why shouldn't I take NSAIDs?
All the drs have told me to take them post op!

NSAID's are good for inflammation - but can aggravate the stomach, liver, and pancreas - especially when already stressed by other conditions like GERD or a recent op.

I was told to avoid them for at least 2 months post op.

My current meds are paracetamol and tramadol. I've found that codeine/co-codamol makes existing pain worse, but YMMV on that.

Does drinking milk or water during an attack of pain help?

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 14:21:55

I think I may have pancreatitis...sad
The pain was so bad.

Go get medical help - pancreatitis is not something to mess around with.

Keeping my fingers crossed that all turns out well.

lougle Fri 03-Jan-14 17:41:02

Get checked up, Badvoc, because you're clearly still worried. Acute pancreatitis tends to be more constant, though, certainly not just 20 minutes (not minimising how painful that 20 minutes was though)

I notice that you often have the pain at night. Do you think it could be reflux? Do you get it in the day time (when you are sat/stood up)

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 20:10:31

Hi
So, gp sent me to hospital.
Bloods ok so no infection.
However, they think I have gastritis (sp?) and costa condritis (sp?) and that it's been caused by the drs telling me to take ibuprofen since I had my op sad
Got to have a camera down as she is worried I may have a stomach ulcer now too sad
THanks so much for the advice and concern - I am sure you have better things to do. I do appreciate it x

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 20:17:15

So I am not allowed to take ibuprofen ever again(!)
And I am on meds for next 2 weeks - ppi's
Am so craft rated and fed up.
5 weeks of my life in a pain filled blur and it could be due to the very meds the dr title me to take sad
Thanks tapir and Lougle.
X

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 20:18:16

Frustrated even!

Don't sweat the gastroscopy - ask for the sedation, tis most excellent and the procedure will really help them to understand what's going on.

Costochondritis is a very good contender for why you have pain, considering that you are also recovering from a chest infection. There's a lot of info about it on Wikipedia.

Sometimes it's good to chat about it with someone who's been through it, and not had the best results.

Take it easy, ok? x

It also may be worth taking your PPI's at night (if you're on a 1 x daily dose) to help with the night time pain.

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 20:40:44

Oh I will. I will ask for them to sedate the hell out of me smile
I am Now on 2 x omeprazole x 2 a day and then going down to 2 x 1 x day.
I'm not convinced re the costo tbh...had bornholms a few years ago and costo is very similar and it doesn't feel like that.
I think that perhaps I have just been very unlucky - first having to have the gb out in he first place, then he chest infection, then the poss gastritis and ulcer.
Most people wouldn't have these issues.
But then again, I am not most people! smile

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 20:56:35

I am due to have my gb out next week. Can i ask if anyone had any difficulty swallowing or feeling like food/pills were stuck before their op?

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 20:58:56

Yes, but that was due to my GERD.
Do you have GERD too?

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 21:10:15

Sorry to hear the recovery isn't going so well Badvoc. I had the endoscopy in october and definitely agree to ask for sedation. I couldn't as i live alone with dc and found it hard to bear. They did diagnose a hiatus hernia from it and i am not sure how much of my current pain is related to that and how much is gb. I get pain in the middle of my back between my shoulder blades as well as the front in the bit btween lower ribs/upper abdo iyswim. i do get such a tightness during a gb attack feels like i am wearing a corset and i cannot wear any clothes above my hips.

i have noticed i have a gb attack after feeling like something has gotten stuck after swallowing, even soft foods get stuck and pills. currently i am on the pre-op diet of yogurt and the pain isn't so bad but still wretching too after being on metaclompramide since nov

i am petrified of complications and that the op isn't going to do anything to relieve my pain

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 21:10:52

I am fuzzy-headed from 5 days without food is gerd reflux?

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 21:22:05

GERD = gastro oesophageal reflus disease. I would imagine no food for 5 days would mean lots of stomach acid which could week cause the symptoms you describe.
I do not have gb pain anymore. The pain I have had has been different and in different places.
Tbh as I said upthread, I think I have been unlucky. No reason to think you will be. When is your op?
There are lots of threads on the op with some really upbeat stories if you do a search x

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 21:34:15

I am on zantac long-term so assume i must have it, i often wake in pain and have had symptoms of both gb and swallowing since late pg with dc2 (6yo). went through years of investigating my lungs because i complained of the pain in my shoulder blades until a different gp suspected stones in april/may, then confirmed by ultrasound. it's taken a battle to get the op approved finally last month to be done on 9th Jan. i have been warned i may end up open- instead of keyhole as i am very overweight.

i has csections with both dc so not worried about the actual op iyswim just that it wont be an end to the pain. i am starting arnica on Monday which helped immensely post-cs with dc2 after not using it the first time around. it's amazing for internal bruising.

what pain relief can they give us to take home if NSAIDs and codine (my go-to painkiller) are not allowed? I have tramadol here which i use rarely because it makes me nauseous. i have yet to tell them i won't be going home the same day oops!

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 21:38:48

How interesting!
My issues started when I was pg with my youngest who is now 5 - so 6 years ago now.
The actual op was a piece of cake tbh.
The worst bit was the shoulder top pain from the gas they pump in!
Didn't need any pain relief after op really but they were most insistent I have some smile
You could have cocodamol, codeine phosphate, nefapam and oromorph (I have had all of these)
My surgeon told me that my op might have to be converted to open if there was bad infection/inflammation but it was fine, he said it was very straightforward in the end....how ironic!!
They should have given you anti sickness meds to take with the tramadol and also take paracetamol with them...it's increases the efficacy.

lougle Fri 03-Jan-14 21:45:56

Are you sure it's not your GERD playing up with the increased bile acids from having your gall bladder out?

It just seems so suspicious that your pain is mostly at night (when you are lying down) and lasts around 20 mins, in the classic 'heartburn' location.

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 21:46:11

it's crazy what having these dc can do to us! i also blame having 2 close together and not giving myself time to recover.

in a way i can't wait for it to be done. I may take my heat pad for the shoulder as it's been as helpful as painkillers to me so far.

i really do hope you recovery speeds up soon and thank you for being kind enough to answer my questions even though you're suffering thanks

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 21:53:18

Don't know Lougle.
Have had GERD for so long now, but never pain like last night sad it was just awful. I perhaps should have gone to the gp this morning but I had the dc to look after til dh got home.
Dr seems to think gastritis most likely cause due to lots of NSAID use (even though every dr I have seen told me to take them!)
I guess in any case an endoscopy is probably sensible.
Yes to a heat pad! I wish I had thought of that! Also peppermint tea.

Badvoc Fri 03-Jan-14 21:54:26

...and the pain has been at all sorts of times...morning, afternoon, night...
Sunday it was 3pm.
Last week it was 4am one morning when it was really bad.
No idea.

Badvoc Sat 04-Jan-14 12:33:04

Ugh.
Another really bad night sad
Am going to ask the consultant on weds if he will do the endoscopy - will be quicker than the NHS I think (?) and am also going to ask him to do a biopsy for coeliac whilst he is in there.
Dr said the referral would be urgent but....could still be weeks couldn't it?
Lougle...I thought if you had issues with too much bile after surgery you got really bad diahorrea? I am the opposite!

Badvoc Sat 04-Jan-14 17:36:57

Pathetic bump...

lougle Sat 04-Jan-14 19:00:39

It can be both.

Yes, urgent means 'when you can see her'. Emergency means 'now'.

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sun 05-Jan-14 21:16:59

how are you doing today Badvoc?

Badvoc Sun 05-Jan-14 21:20:58

Hi
Am ok I think.
Nasty headache.
Had a much better night but tbh any sleep is better than none! smile
Current plan is to ask consultant on weds if he will do a endoscopy ASAP.
Perhaps he will have another idea what's wrong?
Who knows?
How are you?

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sun 05-Jan-14 21:28:12

It took 10 days (incl wekends) for my referral from the day i saw my cons until the actual appt but afaik this wasn't urgent.

my gb is pain free as no food for a while now but the reflux is still there, i am contemplating an adjustable bed as my next purchase, am thinking it could be a sound investment if i am to suffer long term

Badvoc Sun 05-Jan-14 21:32:29

Ooooooh I would love one of those!
Was that an endoscopy appt?

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sun 05-Jan-14 21:36:58

yes it was, though i have heard it called all sorts of names. the nurse was fantastic and told me as she found the hernia rather than any waiting for a result

elastamum Sun 05-Jan-14 21:40:34

You dont need an ajustable bed, but a couple of housebricks under the feet at the head of your bed to raise it up about 3-4ins will make all the difference if you have gerd. Also, eat early in the evening and take a spoonful of gaviscon just before you go to bed. Stop the NSAIDS immediately, if you have GI problems they will really aggravate it. Dont drink alcohol in the evenings and avoid caffine and very fatty food - all sounds a bit sad, but I have suffered for years and despite meds have only just got it under control.

IMO Nexium (esomeprazole) is brilliant, but a lot of GPs wont prescribe it as it is slightly more expensive that other PPIs

Badvoc Sun 05-Jan-14 21:42:31

Hmmm...may hear by Weds then!
Hope so.
I hate waiting when I know something's wrong sad

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sun 05-Jan-14 22:00:04

I don't envy you, the waiting is the hardest, i am down to counting nights and days to get through (4 & 3 to go now). I broke down when the nurse confirmed that it wasn't all in my head as per most other medical professional in the last 6 years, there was actual visual evidence!

I still have the bed donated to me after a house fire 5 years ago, and it's too fragile to prop up at one end. instead i have to sleep on the sofa. everything else (big purchases) has been replaced and having looked around a sleep-easy is only around 20% more than i would pay for decent solid frame and mattress. tbh it would probably be offset by the electric i save not using my heat pads to relieve the pain.

i was on esomeprazole before ranatidine, it affected the SSRI i take for depression meaning i didn't absorb it properly. I haven't eaten solid food since september and tee-total. I am on day 7 of bovril and fat free/sugar free yogurt atm to prepare for surgery and some days it's so unappetising i haven't even had that (just clear fluids) so i don't think i can control it by diet.

elastamum Sun 05-Jan-14 22:29:17

Poor you sad Sounds awful, I have been lucky and managed to avoid the surgery route so far by modifying my lifestyle. My surgeon keeps offering, but I have so far declined. The only benefit is that I have become rather a cheap date!!

Sixtiesqueen Sun 05-Jan-14 22:35:00

I had my gall bladder out last year and had a couple of episode of excruciating pain the following months.

On both occasions I had taken codeine (co-codamol).

Turns out there's quite a lot of anecdotal evidence online of people becoming intolerant of this drug post gall bladder removal. I've avoided it since and been absolutely fine.

Just thought I'd throw it in in case in helps anyone!

somedayillbesaturdaynite Mon 06-Jan-14 01:16:00

thanks Sixtiesqueen, i am planning on paracetamol with tramadol. still an opiate but apparently requires less work from the liver to convert into pain relief according to some doctors

somedayillbesaturdaynite Mon 06-Jan-14 01:18:00

is that surgery for the GERD/reflux, elastamum? Gb coming out next week but no idea if any impact on overall pain as it's sometimes hard to decide which one is causing it

Badvoc Mon 06-Jan-14 07:14:53

Oh some, you poor thing!
I was living on bananas And rice cakes prior to my surgery. Not fun.
Have gone wheat free to try and help my GERD so we shall see...

somedayillbesaturdaynite Mon 06-Jan-14 09:16:28

I've just been reading vicar's thread, it's so scary isn't it? even if seen as fairly minor surgery. getting dc back to school today is another hurdle ticked off the mental countdown (it's easier to break it up in small bits- i had a month's notice of op date)
i cheated last night and sucked special k crackers. does rice ever irritate you? it seems such a small thing to get stuck but i guess if it inflames the linings it would make more sense- bread definitely gets stuck
what day do you have your cons appt? will be thinking of you even if not visible smile x

Badvoc Mon 06-Jan-14 09:31:36

My appt is Weds evening.
Yes, I am thinking of vicar today.
I just feels I tired all the time....weeks of pain and not much food will do that though I guess.
My consultant is a specialist in the surgery to correct reflux so I am guessing he knows his stuff.

Wanted to come back and apologise - I'm not being rude, I was admitted last Friday evening, and have had very limited access to my phone and laptop.

All's well now thankfully, but these bloody stones are a menace.

Badvoc Mon 06-Jan-14 14:52:13

What have you got to apologise for!?
Are you ok!?
Sorry, can't remember, have you had your gb out? Are they duct stones?
So sorry you are still suffering.
Can't wait for my appt on weds. Hopefully my consultant may be able to shed some light on things....
If he has any words of wisdom I shall let you know...as I say he is a GERD/reflux and gasto-oesopageal specialist.

I had a stone wedge itself into the duct - bloody bloody bastard things.

Gallbladder gone many yrs ago, but still making stones <wail>

OTOH I adore the combo of morphine & entonox, gives a vair floaty feel to everything.

Hope all goes well Wednesday.

Badvoc Mon 06-Jan-14 20:02:41

Oh how awful sad
I am hoping the consultant refers me for a scan...the dr on Friday said she wanted me to have one but of course....it didn't happen sad

I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get a scan!

Badvoc Wed 08-Jan-14 21:50:57

Well...my consultant doesn't agree with the hospital!
Doesn't think I have gastritis, or that my pain is in any way billiary, and doesn't think I need a gastroscopy!
Ha!
No idea what to do now.
I shall go and see my go tomorrow and get her opinion.

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