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A&E or would I be seen as wasting their time?

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illustrated Fri 06-Sep-13 19:47:56

I've been pretty unwell recently; Lots of lumps on my neck, joint pain, tiredness, night sweats, excessive bruising and headaches.

Things came to a head last night after I couldn't sleep due to the pain. I've had blood tests today and have to wait till Monday for results. I asked for pain relief and due to me breastfeeding I got an ant-inflammatory - Naproxen.

I've taken it but the pain is just getting worse by the hour. Paracetamol wont touch it either.

Is this something I should go to A&E for, would anyone know if I can actually get anything stronger whilst breastfeeding? I'm so tired and don't need another night of no sleep.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 19:51:26

Its not that you are wasting their time as such, but they can't really help you. You've been seen by a doctor, tested and are waiting for results, there isn't anything that a&e can do for you on a friday night, and you'll probably sit there for many hours.

Griggson Fri 06-Sep-13 19:51:57


A&E now.

It's sounds like you're really suffering and like you could do with those blood tests results sooner.

It's also really important if you're breastfeeding.

Go now before the Friday night rush, and let me know how you get on smile

Sidge Fri 06-Sep-13 19:53:01

You need the Out of Hours GP service, not A&E.

But all they'll probably be able to do is offer you pain relief, which will be limited by breastfeeding.

LoganMummy Fri 06-Sep-13 19:53:35

Do you not have a local Out of Hours GP service who could give you stinger painkillers?

nextphase Fri 06-Sep-13 19:53:59

Rather than A&E, do you have an out of hours Dr, who might be able to prescribe something stronger?
That way, you may well get an appointment time, rather than having to hang about at A&E.
Personally, I don't think it is an A or and E, but it sounds like you need to see someone before Monday.
Hope your feeling better soon.

nextphase Fri 06-Sep-13 19:54:22

everyone else types quicker!

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 19:56:41

she won't get the blood tests results sooner from a&e though, she'll sit there for 8 hours and then be told to go back to her GP.

ubik Fri 06-Sep-13 19:58:11


Good Luck smile

timidviper Fri 06-Sep-13 20:00:21

This is not an accident or an emergency which probably answers the question.

Ring OOH dr for advice

NationMcKinley Fri 06-Sep-13 20:02:10

I'm with griggson. Go to A&E and let us know how you get on. Good luck.

Griggson Fri 06-Sep-13 20:07:16

I imagine that A&E would be rather concerned by a breastfeeding mother presenting with the symptoms described and might be quite keen to fast-track bloods.

BoreOfWhabylon Fri 06-Sep-13 20:07:40

If it's severe and worsening headache then A&E (don't try to drive yourself).

If not headache then ring 111 or OOH - your symptoms need further assessment before Monday imo.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 20:09:32

I would be very very surprised if they did.

I could be wrong though.

Griggson Fri 06-Sep-13 20:13:33

I'm only speaking from personal experience, OnTheBottom smile

NationMcKinley Fri 06-Sep-13 20:13:54

A&E would almost certainly do their own full set of bloods which can be analysed within an hour.

shugfish Fri 06-Sep-13 20:22:21

If I was on call tonight I'd want to see you with those symptoms, think you should attend A&E if you pain isn't relieved after naproxen.
Funny question but do you know which hospital your GP surgery sends their blood tests to? It would normally be the closest one. Worth going to that hospitals A&E if that have one and they'd be able to view the blood test results. The majority of the tests I would presume you have had taken would be back by now.

gingeroots Fri 06-Sep-13 20:22:25

I agree neither an accident nor an emergency but .... I was told this week when phoning the ward I was discharged from last week to ask for advice on pain management to go to A & E if pain got worse .

My situation was neither accident nor emergency and it
was a staff nurse who gave the advice .

HicDraconis Fri 06-Sep-13 20:23:38

Agree with those saying OOH GP rather than A&E for worsening joint pains. A&E if its severe / worsening headache that's stopping you sleep.

Breast feeding doesn't stop you being able to take painkillers but the stronger opioids are excreted to some extent in milk so the baby can become drowsy/sedated.

Codeine is unsafe so don't try any over the counter painkillers with codeine in!

How old is the baby?

gingeroots Fri 06-Sep-13 20:24:14

OP with pain as bad as you describe I think you should go to A &E .

Fluffyemenent Fri 06-Sep-13 20:26:34

Not appropriate for A&E on the info given, ring your surgery get the out of hours number and see an experienced GP for assessment NOT an inexperienced junior in A&E.

BoreOfWhabylon Fri 06-Sep-13 20:26:50

It's not an accident but, since her symptoms are getting worse, it may well become an emergency.

I do hope OP is getting some advice right now.

shugfish Fri 06-Sep-13 21:26:50

Sorry but codeine is fine if your breast feeding.
Often what your discharged with post c/s

NationMcKinley Fri 06-Sep-13 21:39:21

Any update op? Really hope you decided to go to A&E

illustrated Sat 07-Sep-13 10:49:11

Thanks for all the advice. Seeing as I've gone back to stay at my parents in a different area I couldn't ring up the doctor and there was no late chemists open. I had a good look about online and found out I could take some other painkillers with the Naproxen - its helped slightly. I just didn't have the energy to sit in A&E for hours, feel very weak.

Now to sit and wait for the results...I'm very aware that they are testing for signs of Leukaemia and its scaring me big time.

BoreOfWhabylon Sat 07-Sep-13 13:00:27

Ah, illustrated, what a worrying time for you.

You can be seen by local GPs as a temporary resident, so could ring 111/OOH today or any time over the weekend.

Thinking of you x

nextphase Sat 07-Sep-13 13:09:04

Yep, you can be seen by OOH out of area.
Bare it in mind if you need them today or tomorrow.

Hope the tests come back soon, and are not as bad as you fear.


CPtart Sat 07-Sep-13 13:22:10

Where I am, If GP test results were bad and you needed immediate treatment the lab would inform the out of hours service who would contact you. Are you contactable though if staying out of the area this weekend??

Reenypip Sat 07-Sep-13 14:44:19

Hi illustrated,
I was at my partners house out of my area, and rang his GP surgery and they had a dr come out to house to see me, and then refered me to hospital. (That dr saved my life)

MinesAPintOfTea Sat 07-Sep-13 14:51:28

I recuperated from an operation at the other end of the country from my usual home (was living alone so went to stop with parents). Their GP saw me as a temporary patient, no problem. I just had to fill in a tiny (leaflet-sized) form so they knew who I was.

prettyanddainty Sat 07-Sep-13 20:21:59

illustrated I had all your symptoms, and the Dr tested for lymphoma, it turned out to be an overactive thyroid, it's good that you are getting seen to.

Theonlyoneiknow Sat 07-Sep-13 21:14:28

How are you doing OP?

NationMcKinley Sat 07-Sep-13 23:28:59

How is the pain tonight? If it becomes worse again then I would still suggest A&E. It doesn't matter at all if you're out of area. Fwiw, I would never consider taking any member of my family to our local hospital. We always go to one which is slightly further out. I really hope this is something minor smile

lisad123everybodydancenow Sat 07-Sep-13 23:40:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

how are you?

illustrated Sun 08-Sep-13 09:48:45

Thanks everyone. Thought I was doing a little better yesterday but today I've woken up incredibly weak and shakey. Feel so nauseous too. Every little cut I had has become infected and my eczema has flared up. I think I'm still just going to have to wait for the results before anyone can do anything for me.

TallGiraffe Sun 08-Sep-13 09:55:11

Hmm, you don't sound well at all. Have you got help looking after the baby. I think you should call out of hours doc.

Hope you get some answers soon.

NationMcKinley Sun 08-Sep-13 10:11:41

illustrated please see someone medically qualified today!

MinesAPintOfTea Sun 08-Sep-13 10:18:03

An OOH GP might well be able to chase your blood test results even if you aren't in the same area: they can ring hospitals. Just give 111 a ring and ask to see the OOH service, it doesn't matter if its not your local GP.

chocoluvva Sun 08-Sep-13 10:24:49

Don't wait now OP. Call out of hours.

illustrated Sun 08-Sep-13 11:05:19

Ok. I gave 111 a call and will be seeing an OOH gp.

Leverette Sun 08-Sep-13 11:16:32

I'm glad you're going to see someone today. Given the problems you're experiencing, I would think there is a reasonable chance that they may suggest hospital admission for you today or within the next few days. Are you with a DP or anyone apart from your little one?

Leverette Sun 08-Sep-13 11:20:04

Sorry I scrolled back and I see you're at your parents.

givemestrengthorlove Sun 08-Sep-13 11:46:39

GP mon unless you are more unwell in which case OOH

Wouldn't say AE unless you are ill enough to be admitted and OOH can't see you

givemestrengthorlove Sun 08-Sep-13 11:49:21

MN needs to stop recommending AE as a cure all... Most of the time GP OOH is the way to go unless its an accident or a 999 emergency
AE isn't for regular illnesses that aren't life threatening..that's what OOH is for.
Otherwise everyone will be sat on trolleys in the car park even with emergencies.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 08-Sep-13 14:37:08

I'm so pleased you have called 111, illustrated, that is exactly what it is for, to sort out who needs to be seen, where and when. If an ambulance is needed they can arrange one; if A&E, they will tell you which one; if a doctor's appointment/opinion that will be sorted.

ubik Sun 08-Sep-13 16:08:05

yy to givemestrength and Boreofbabylon = the nurse 111/DIrect/24 nurse is quite capable of referring to OOH, or A&E or to other care providers and cab knows what is open when, who will see whom etc

lisad123everybodydancenow Sun 08-Sep-13 18:00:04

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Leverette Sun 08-Sep-13 18:15:45

I hope you've been seen by OOH by now illustrated. I'd expect you to be pulled in and subjected to a thorough battery of testing to see what's sounds as though your blood chemistry/immune function is really haywire just now and that you would benefit from starting some supportive treatments. Sending you my best wishes and hope you get answers and effective medical management underway really quickly flowers

illustrated Sun 08-Sep-13 19:14:00

Hmm seemed it was a bit of a waste of time. I got told to see an OOH gp at a nearby hospital but when I got there they said they couldn't access my blood results as they are out of the area. The gp wouldn't give me any other medication until they knew what was wrong with me. They just said to wait.

Leverette Sun 08-Sep-13 19:18:43

Oh how frustrating for you sad I hope there's no issue with getting your results tomorrow as originally planned, and that you manage to get some sleep tonight.

idiot55 Sun 08-Sep-13 19:26:22

Hope ou manage o get some sleep tonight. X

PrincessKildare Sun 08-Sep-13 19:36:37

I'm a nurse. Go to A and E now! They will do repeat bloods and have em back in an hour. U need to be seen if ur condition is worsening.

Griggson Sun 08-Sep-13 20:26:29

Go to A&E.

I'm going to keep saying it until you go. I understand the concerns of the people who say don't go, but I think that - in this case - it is best that you go and see someone because you sound like you're really suffering.

It's not an accident, but it may become an emergency very quickly.

gingeroots Sun 08-Sep-13 21:09:16

Of course people shouldn't abuse A&E ,but you can't reduce it to a simple question of only go if it's an emergency or an accident . Of if you're likely to be admitted .
I called OHH this am after a long night of unbearable post operative pain ( op 3 weeks ago ) .OHH called ambulance ( tho pain no longer unbearable ) for A & E .

I'm just back ,have had blood tests etc ,with results and an ultrasound arranged for tommorrow .
So why can't OP go ?They can repeat the blood tests as said upthread .

NationMcKinley Sun 08-Sep-13 21:41:29

I also stand by A&E. Please, Illustrated, go to A&E!

Serious pain.that ooh can't help with is fine for a and e.

kilmuir Sun 08-Sep-13 21:53:22

i worked in a and e. i think you should go. nothing to lose. believe me people turn up there with all sorts, not always an accident or emergency.

NationMcKinley Sun 08-Sep-13 21:55:10

Too true kilmuir! grin

MinesAPintOfTea Mon 09-Sep-13 08:18:42

givemestrengthorlove The problem is that people come onto MN when they're not confident to go to A&E, not when they shouldn't go. If you want to see why A&E is overflowing look at 111, who send people who want to see OOH to A&E because that's what their flowchart says (and its no longer possible to just go to OOH without going through their flowchart).

A tiny tiny proportion of people have been advised to go by MN compared to the tidal wave sent by 111 when they don't need to be.

NationMcKinley Mon 09-Sep-13 18:05:23

Did y

NationMcKinley Mon 09-Sep-13 18:06:30

Oops! Try again......blush
Did you get your blood results, Illustrated? How are you feeling?

illustrated Tue 10-Sep-13 12:22:14

Yeah I got them today. They aren't very normal apparently and some weren't processed properly. I will apparently have to have more in 3 weeks. Its not really put my mind at rest, still not knowing whats wrong.

morethan1 Tue 10-Sep-13 12:44:50

Are you kidding? Do NOT wait 3 weeks. Make a fuss now,this minute, and get to a doctor this afternoon for new tests. See a different GP if necessary. Or go to bloody A&E if you get no joy, you have to force this issue. Best of Luck.

chocoluvva Tue 10-Sep-13 13:01:10

How are you feeling? (apart from unsatisfied)

gingeroots Tue 10-Sep-13 14:03:11

Oh illustrated I'm so sorry .
I don't understand it but this kind of thing just seems to happen to some people .
I agree with morethan .
If you have the energy of course .

morethan1 Tue 10-Sep-13 16:47:02

Find the energy. I'd be sat refusing to move in the haematology department of my nearest decent hospital with whatever results I had in a printout in my hand. The NHS is full of wonderful people who do wonderful things and I love it, but sometimes it can be truly crap and you have to be awkward to get things done. Being a pushy arsehole can save your life - do it.

Leverette Tue 10-Sep-13 20:37:31

illustrated this is not ok and I concur with morethan1's recommendations completely. Seriously, go kick some butts girl.

lisad123everybodydancenow Tue 10-Sep-13 20:48:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ThermoLobster Tue 10-Sep-13 20:50:07

Illustrated how are you doing? Are you still bfeeding? I really don't think you should have to wait 3 weeks. When I was in a heamatology ward, they got the results back in an hour. Even at my GPs it is same day. I get that some blood results take longer, especially when they are trying to 'grow' something, but the timescales they have told you seem unreasonable. If you are feeling too weak to escalate, can you get someone to have a rant on your behalf? I really hope things improve for you.

givemestrengthorlove Tue 10-Sep-13 21:18:19

Which ones were abnormal?

NationMcKinley Tue 10-Sep-13 22:26:27

Do you have a copy of your blood results, illustrated?

gingeroots Wed 11-Sep-13 15:17:26

illustrated how's it going ?
Anything we can help with ?
Even if it's just sympathy if you're not able to push the powers that be on this .


How are you OP?

I was watching this thread as I was worried about the OP - if you're still reading illustrated, I hope you are ok

Wow 3 weeks is a long time to wait especially with a new baby.

I was just coming on to post that I was prescribed co codamol whilst breast feeding

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