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A positive, tasty NON-DIET approach to healthy eating. Anyone want to join me?

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fuzzpig Thu 09-May-13 12:37:14

Due to health issues (I have CFS/ME among other things) I have decided that I need to eat more healthily. Not that it's a cure, and I know no food is magic, but I know that having a healthier diet will be one less stress for my body to deal with. I also feel that due to our hectic and exhausting lives we haven't been feeding our DCs as well as we should.

I am not interested in crash diets etc so I decided, rather than banning myself from 'bad' foods, to instead focus on including lots of lovely nutrient rich food to make it a positive experience rather than a chore of self-deprivation. I'm not going to be weighing myself BTW, any weightloss is secondary to me as I really just want to focus on nutrition (also due to my health, heavy exercise is not possible ATM).

Unfortunately due to aforementioned illness cooking is very hard for me so I have to keep it simple and I am only making small gradual changes. So far it is easy as I actually love a lot of these foods, but often didn't prioritise them, instead going for cheaper/more convenience/quick fixes etc.

First off I decided to add berries and nuts, as these are two things that are supposedly rich in nutrients (vitamin C and protein/vitamin E respectively) and I love them - but generally didn't indulge due to price. However I found bags of mixed whole nuts in Tesco and they are going down very well, I put them in an airtight tub and 5yo DD even asks for them when she is hungry for a snack, instead of her previous requests for biscuits/crisps etc! shock We are all enjoying the berries too.

Although I am deliberately not banning myself from junk food, I am already finding I don't crave it quite so much because I am enjoying the berries and nuts and they feel like a treat in themselves. My taste for processed food is decreasing too, and now when I do eat some it often doesn't satisfy me at all and/or makes me feel a bit sick.

Two other things I really want to increase is oily fish (good source of long-chain omega 3) and pulses (protein and fibre). I think this is going to be more difficult as the DCs aren't keen on either (except tuna and, erm, baked beans).

I'm sure I can't be the only person wanting to eat more healthily so would anyone like to join me and share support, ideas and advice? smile

buildingmycorestrength Thu 09-May-13 13:43:15

Fuzzpig, hello! I'm over on the paleo thread in weight loss. None of us talk about weight loss very much, though, we all just bang on about how much we love our food. grin

Main first step for me was stopping wheat, then other grains, and now most sugar (with allowances for social using and the odd slipup, of course). I maximise protein and veg. I love salmon and salad, eggs for breakfast, chicken and roast veg for dinner. Dark choc after lunch. Fruit for snacks.

Lots of great ideas over there, but also great idea to start your own thread. Hope you find something that works for you.

Grockle Thu 09-May-13 22:23:59

Hi Fuzz, I need to do this too. I keep thinking that I should go back to my 10/10 thing... 10 mins of exercise a day plus 10 portions of fruit & veg. It means there is little room for meat/ processed crap. I desperately want to try to get better - to have more energy & to feel fitter & I really hope that eating better food will help. I bought a bag full of vitamins & supplements etc that I have begun to take.

buildingmycorestrength Fri 10-May-13 09:37:14

Yesterday was eggs for breakfast, salad and cottage cheese for lunch (with dressing and olives and other yummy flavours), dessicated coconut, seeds, vegetable crisps and a pear for massive snack, and a load of salmon, broccoli and cauliflower with lime and black pepper for dinner.

Delicious.

ATJabberwocky Fri 10-May-13 09:43:28

Finally a thread that's not raving about the 5:2 thing. Making small changes is definitely the best way and reducing sugar and fatty stuff without limiting yourself seems like a much better way to eat.

Grockle: 10 portions of fruit and veg seems a bit excessive, along with taking supplements rather than just eating a balanced diet. Does this genuinely make you feel better?

Grockle Fri 10-May-13 11:59:28

When I did the 10/10 thing, I didn't take any supplements. It's based on research that suggests we need to eat at least 8 portions of F&V. I don't know if it's true but apparently the government decided that 8 a day was off-putting and went with 5-a day as a more attainable target. By aiming for 10, I was guaranteed to meet the 5-a-day quota and usually 8+. It meant that I became more aware of what I was consuming and made healthier choices. I never stopped eating cake/ crisps etc, but I certainly had a better balance.

Today I have eaten a croissant (with butter & marmalade), 4 chocolate fingers, a thornton's chocolate (rich, buttery truffle) and a handful of hula hoops. I'm not doing well grin

slug Fri 10-May-13 12:21:04

fuzzpig, do you have a slow cooker? Pulses or lentils cooked slowly are much less likely to give you the more err, explosive side effects. DD is a massive lentil fan and will eat them in preference to just about anything else.

I sometimes cook a large batch of lentils overnight with a few herbs, a bit of garlic, onion and water. This then gets left in the fridge and added to salads for protein. I take a lunch to work of tomatoes, lentils and spring onions.

TheConstantLurker Fri 10-May-13 12:30:37

Ooh excellent. Marking my place for more ideas. Anyone got any for uncooked healthier breakfasts?

Grockle Fri 10-May-13 12:57:41

I will start this properly on Monday. My mum is here for the weekend so we're having takeaway tonight, afternoon tea tomorrow & breakfast out on Sunday. I menu plan each month so will look at the rest of this month & June & try to have a better range of meals.

Tinned pulses & beans are good too. Much more expensive than dried but on the days when I am too ill to cook (every day!), I know I can open a tin of bean salad or add lentils to shepherd's pie without much effort.

Also, frozen berries are fab. For lunch, I sometimes put some fat free greek yoghurt in a pot & add a handful of frozen berries before I leave the house in the morning. By lunchtime, the berries have defrosted but are still cold and it makes a good, filling lunch. And porridge for breakfast.

Grockle Fri 10-May-13 12:58:58

Also, other easy changes to make - only have wholemeal bread & pasta in the house (again, more expensive) to increase your fibre intake without any effort.

Thingymajigs Fri 10-May-13 13:17:57

I'm doing this too. I lost a lot of weight last year and became much healthier after I gave up smoking and cut back drinking to once a month. I'm hoping to maintain the loss healthily without counting calories.
I've come off the omega 3 capsules because I'm now eating 2-3 portions of oilly fish a week but I'm sticking with the multi-vitamin because I'm TTC (another reason to be as healthy as possible).
Since making our own bread and cobs I've stopped eating it as much. I simply don't want to waste the bread unnecessarily. I've also cut back massively on rice and potatoes which used to be a daily indulgence. Chocolate and treats are limited to the weekend and a small treat on Weds.
Typical day is frozen fruit with low fat natural yoghurt and toasted oats for breakfast. Homemade veg, lentil or chicken soup or some sort of salad for lunch. Dinner varies hugely but fish and veg in a spring onion sauce is pretty common. I'm trying to add more fruit but I'm always aware of the carb and sugar content so I rarely go over 4 pieces of fruit a day.

Dahlialover Fri 10-May-13 16:31:21

Hi - I've been doing this to reduce cholesterol

Looking for more ways to eat fruit (I don't like it!)

I use brown rice (cook for 35 mins using absorption method) and puy lentils, or the waitrose cheaper equivalent as they cook in 20 minutes.

Every so often, I get fed up and eat cheese and chocolate biscuits, but they are never as good as I was hoping :D

buildingmycorestrength Fri 10-May-13 18:09:23

Just had a lush salad for dinner...tuna, salad leaves, grated carrot, bits of antipasti (artichokes, sun dried tomatoes, roasted peppers) and a bit of balsamic vinegar. Yum.

And a lump of cheese

Will prob have some fruit in front of the telly later.

TheConstantLurker Sat 11-May-13 12:40:33

Gah! why is healthy so expensive?
last night in the interests of non-wheat eating I had a whole big packet of crisps and half a packet of dark chocolate. Will I lose weight?

grin

buildingmycorestrength Sat 11-May-13 12:54:25

grin oh, definitely! Almost certainly!

I had another omelette for breakfast, another salad for lunch and cottage cheese with seeds, and some dark choc after....

forevergreek Sat 11-May-13 14:31:36

A super quick 'fast food' meal here is : a tin of mixed beans/ pulses rinsed, add to large bowl, mix in tin of tuna and tin of sweetcorn. That is basically it as a quick bean salad. We then either eat alone or add anything else in fridge ie green beans, peppers, cucumber, tomatoes etc etc...
Even the kids prefer it than Tuna pasta. It's perfect for 5 min meal, and handy if no energy to prep etc..

You have the right idea to food. The next thing I would say is wheat and sugar.

Simple changes would be dark choc instead of milk, oat based cereals instead of wheat, rye breads etc.. Or baked potato instead of bread at lunch maybe

infamouspoo Sat 11-May-13 14:40:17

I'll join. i've cut wheat and grains and am gradually upping the veg and fruit and nuts

Grockle Sat 11-May-13 21:00:06

Please talk to me about reducing wheat & sugar. I know its not good for me but it's what I fall back on. I am unable to cook atm & don't eat hot food.

Bean salad is one of our faves too.

buildingmycorestrength Sat 11-May-13 21:08:53

I decided not to worry too much about 'giving up wheat' but just to try not eating it for a bit as an experiment.

Decided to just replace with other starchy carbs first...rice cakes and oat cakes are good as cold ready carbs. Rice and potatoes as hot carbs, and sweet potatoes which I love.

For breakfast I made sure I had protein, so I had three eggs cooked in coconut oil. I didn't feel hungry til lunchtime when normally I would want a snack between 9 and 10 blush . Not sure what a cold protein based breakfast would be, but frozen berries with full fat natural yoghurt and seeds might be good?

Then rice cakes and bagged salad with some protein for lunch (maybe cottage cheese or already boiled eggs or a tin of tuna?). And jacket potato (microwave?) and beans and cheese for dinner would do it.

I just found that without wheat I wasn't constantly hungry. And no wheat meant no biscuits, but I didn't try giving up sugar right away as that seemed too much. That came easily after a while but I didn't want to make promises I couldn't keep as I already felt like such a failure on the food and parenting and wife and house and work front.

Maybe try it for a couple of days and see if it has the same effect for you?

infamouspoo Sat 11-May-13 21:13:37

I discovered I had coeliacs which came as a bit of a blow. Further experimentation showed potatoes and sugar didnt agree either sad

NeedsTherapy Sat 11-May-13 21:26:18

just marking my place on here, I've been thinking about this for a while, I will come back later and read.

fuzzpig Sat 11-May-13 21:46:27

Wow thanks for all the replies! So glad I'm not on my own with this smile

I have actually cut down quite massively on wheat, but it wasn't really a conscious decision. I have just found that I don't really fancy it. For example looking at pasta just makes me think 'ugh' so I will now only have it rarely, and our bread has been going mouldy because it doesn't get used quickly anymore! As I said in my OP I don't want to explicitly 'give anything up' (I always just want to rebel! <childish>) but I am finding it happen naturally. I'm not sure if that is because the ME/CFS can lead to extra sensitivity to 'toxins'.

So many things have been making me feel a bit sick that I even wondered if I was pregnant hmm

Anyway I got some more lovely food delivered today. As well as the nuts I found a bag of mixed seeds - only four types, sesame, sunflower, pumpkin and linseed but should be a start.

And bizarrely DH cooked some rainbow trout for us tonight, DCs had already eaten but DD had come back downstairs and asked to try it, she bloody LOVED it! I'm sure she would've complained if we'd served it to her at dinner. But she was ripping into it, even the skin.

Grockle Sun 12-May-13 03:19:27

Thanks for the advice. I'm a but funny about food but I know that when I stop eating for a day or two, I lose my feeling of hunger... I wonder if any of that is to do with wheat? Once I start on carbs (so, mainly wheat), I just can't stop.

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 06:35:54

Ah my browser crashed last night so I'm glad my post still appeared!

What I also wanted to ask was, grockle what supplements have you bought?

I've thought about trying some (I currently only take a multivitamin with iron) but they are all so expensive aren't they. I keep hearing about various things but then when I asked my ME consultant, he wasn't all that convinced. But my mum has offered to pay for private alternative therapy if I choose something and I did moot the idea of using that money for supplements instead, at least while I work on getting more nutrients via my food. I think the main problem with supplements is that often the nutrients aren't actually as 'bioavailable' (think that's the right word!) as those found naturally in food, so you don't get as much use out of them (or to quote Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory, "what you're paying for is very expensive urine").

Also wanted to ask people, those of you with young DCs, what veg do they eat? My 2 (DD 5, DS 3) are ok with veg really (I remember a meal in Wetherspoons where the waitress brought the 99p side dish of steamed veg, and in unison they shouted YAY, VEGETABLES!!! so loud we got funny looks hmm grin) but I get quite bored serving the same stuff all the time - DD eats tomato, carrot, green beans, peas, broccoli, sweetcorn, cucumber, avocado and mushroom. DS only eats a fraction of that. I bought some sugar snaps and baby corn for them to try (again) this week.

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 06:43:06

Oh no infamouspoo (love the name grin) coeliac sucks, my DH and one of my DSDs have it. It is quite shocking how much food has gluten in, let alone how much has 'traces' or 'may contain' etc. I've had both DCs tested due to the genetic link (10 times as likely to get it if a parent has it) but thankfully negative. Apparently in Italy they test every child at 5.

Grockle I guess the carb craving could be because of the sugar crash - simple carbs act like sugar in the bloodstream I think? So blood sugar spikes quickly and then you feel worse and need another hit?

As sweet potato was mentioned upthread I just wanted to say - baked sweet potato, cut open and topped (no butter needed) with feta cheese and spring onion. Amazing.

Grockle Sun 12-May-13 09:18:13

My vitamins etc are:

Multivitamin with supplements - pretty much 100% of everything
Cod Liver Oil & Evening primrose oil - for immune system as well as skin etc
Glucosamine - for my joints

TBH, it was a rash, clutching at straws decision but they are supermarket own brand and were on 3 for 2 so I thought I'd give it a go. Nothing to lose other than a bit of cash which I was willing to part with if it helps.

DS is brilliant with veg. He loves peas & we probably have them 5-6 times a week but he'll eat pretty much anything. I'm really lucky. It's me who's the picky eater nowadays. And my studentDD(11) who eats everything until I cook sausages. And pie. And fish. And cheese. And yoghurt...

I felt awful yesterday but spent the day in bed, apart from 2 hours when I went out for afternoon tea but shivered & cried inside the whole time. My mum had to help me change the sheets because I was so sweaty the dog jumped on it with muddy paws. And that made me cry... what sort of 35 yr old can't change her own sheets?

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 09:47:22

Thanks grockle I was looking at glucosamine too as my boss who has arthritis swears by it. I don't know if it occurs naturally in anything or if it is synthetic, I will google it later.

It is amazing how some foods are really rich in certain things, for example one brazil nut has RDA of selenium IIRC?

Was also thinking of vits C and D which I have taken in the past although they don't taste nice.

Would it help people if I found a list of what foods are best for each nutrient? I think it would help me as it would encourage me to eat a wider variety.

NeedsTherapy Sun 12-May-13 10:33:21

What do you eat for breakfast? It's something I always skip as most grains make me feel worse and eggs are too difficult.

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 12:18:11

I just eat cereal. We are all cereal mad in this house and it would be very hard to give up!

An alternative could be fruit/nuts/seeds with yoghurt?

One of my favourites is fruit corner yoghurt with chopped banana (and a cereal called 'grape nuts' sprinkled over).

I wouldn't really cook eggs for an everyday breakfast either although poached eggs aren't too much hassle if you get poaching pods (little silicone cups that float in the water)

If you boiled eggs the day before would you eat them cold?

Or maybe a smoothie if you have a blender - could add milk or yoghurt and even linseed I think?

Grockle Sun 12-May-13 14:05:10

I skip too or eat cereal or toast. If I eat in the morning, it makes me ravenous all day & I eat constantly. If I don't have breakfast, I can manage til teatime, then have a sensible dinner & nothing more.

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 14:07:47

These links are the best I've found so far:

vitamins in food

minerals in food

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 14:09:06

Grockle I hate to think of you not eating for virtually the whole day! Even if you aren't hungry it can't be good surely? x

Grockle Sun 12-May-13 14:17:19

No, it can't be good. But better than eating crap all day and becoming the size of a house? Maybe... I'm not very good at eating sensibly & suffer greatly with disordered eating.

Thanks for the links.

NeedsTherapy Sun 12-May-13 18:54:43

Grockle I'm the same. I need to sort out my eating habits before my girls start picking up on it sad I'd hate for them to have the same food issues I do.

I hadn't thought about yogurt! For some reason I just have a total mind blank when it comes to food.

Dh is already gluten free so I have decided from next Saturday (because I shop on a Friday!) we are a full gluten free house hold.

Grockle Sun 12-May-13 21:20:04

I know... DS is very aware of my crap eating. I think I got my problems from my mum. I was determined not to pass them on sad Thankfully DS seems to be ok so far. I MUST sort it out. I'm hungry now.

awaywego1 Mon 13-May-13 17:56:36

Sorry haven't read the whole thread but just wanted to say I am an me/cfs person who have up gluten about 6 months ago-it wasn't the miracle cure I was hoping for nothing ever is is it! but it has completely got rid of neuropathic burning type pains that I had all the time and eased ibs type symptoms, no massive improvement on fatigue which is a damn shame but am happy with the above and have found it remarkably manageable-tho obviously I would love a pastry right now grin

Grockle Tue 14-May-13 19:36:20

Right, I'm about to do an online shop... any suggestions for healthy things I could add? Today I have eaten 2 KitKat chunkys (someone gave them to me. I don't even like them), crisps, small piece of cake, plain yoghurt with raspberries & blue berries, toast (white), cereal (all bran type stuff)... utter shit sad

buildingmycorestrength Tue 14-May-13 19:41:07

Nuts? Dessicated coconut? Eggs? Satsumas? Salmon? Salad bags? Three bean salad in a tin? Ready cooked lentils? Mozzarella pearls?

looseleaf Tue 14-May-13 20:02:58

Am so glad to find this thread as most diet related threads upset me as I never agree with them (am interested in nutrition rather than dieting).

We have homemade baked beans- soften onion and cook with butterbeans and tinned tomatoes, seasoning/ herbs etc. tastes way nicer than normal baked beans IMO.

Dahl- great made with a bit of chorizo or bacon for flavour. We often have it with home-fried poppodums (as I avoid sunflower oil).

Try to fry in coconut oil ideally, or mild olive oil, or butter due to smoke points as many oils become quite toxic at high heats.

I love a Persian salad we discovered with finely chopped tomatoes, cucumber, parsley and a squeeze of lemon and some olive oil.

Spanish tortilla - delicious and worth making a large one as so useful cold for a quick lunch.

I often make pancakes for breakfast with GF flour, egg and coconut milk.

Incidentally I thought I had ME for ages and it was awful so am so sorry you are finding it hard. Mine lifted in an amazing way when I discovered DD strongly intolerant to wheat as led me to realise I was too. A few breadcrumbs knock me out and affect me for several days.

looseleaf Tue 14-May-13 20:04:44

Oops I left out onion from Persian salad- think that's what makes it do yummy!

Seeds are great too as packed full of magnesium etc. I found some dark choc covered ginger ones I love!

Wossname Tue 14-May-13 20:05:06

How about oily fish? smoked mackeral is lovely and very healthy I think. Nuts and seeds, full fat yogurt, eggs, chicken breast, feta cheese, salad, veg for roasting, sun dried tomatoes, olives.

This is all stuff that I am going to get this week, I am sick of eating crap.

Grockle Tue 14-May-13 20:21:11

How do I begin with GF?

Is it easier to buy GF alternatives (e.g. bread, cereal etc) or just to avoid wheat-based things...

awaywego1 Tue 14-May-13 22:25:34

It's probably easier to start by avoiding all together otherwise you spend a fortune on crap sugar filled food. I buy gf porridge oats and have them every morning, salad and a yogurt for lunch and then stir fry/jkt potato/soup/stew etc for dinner - I do buy gf bread and pasta occasionally-but try not to have it too much. It's easy to get sucked into the replacement snack isle but they are as high in fat and sugar as standard biscuits etc. I do eat a lot of chocolate tho grin

fuzzpig Tue 14-May-13 22:42:26

Hello looseleaf, mind if I ask what in particular annoys you about normal 'diet' threads? I really feel that nutrition is a huge minefield, we get so much conflicting info, which is one reason I am just focussing on including good, nutrient-rich food rather than worrying about dieting as such, although on the whole I am reducing processed food in favour of natural whole foods.

So what exciting yumminess did you get in your order grockle? Please stop beating yourself up for eating 'crap', you don't need guilt on top of the illness! Just concentrating on adding even one good thing each day will help (I found if I tried to do too much at once it got a bit overwhelming and food got wasted). Could you get DS involved in trying new things?

Good news, DD loves the seeds too and will happily grab a handful. Have to admit I don't like them as much as nuts but they are good for having something nibbly/crunchy.

Anyone else love avocado? I keep forgetting to just use them as an extra veg with dinner, which is daft as 3 of us would quite happily eat slices of it. It's so lovely.

I'm awake after a nap and am going to have papaya and strawberries smile

fuzzpig Tue 14-May-13 22:45:02

away do you manage oats then if they are uncontaminated? That's really good (flapjacks! grin) - oats are a grey area for coeliacs but DH tried some GF oats and still got awful symptoms - he was really disappointed.

buildingmycorestrength Tue 14-May-13 23:02:31

I find I'm gravitating more and more to salmon, avocado, sweet potato, salad, eggs, berries, natural yoghurt. Not bored at all of these and have them most days (not salmon most days, actually). No controversy about those foods.

Although I did binge on biscuits today..I think I get cravings when I'm ovulating as well as before my period. Thanks, biology! Double the fun!

howiwonder Tue 14-May-13 23:20:23

Marking my place on this thread. I had a good talking to from the HV about nutrition and looking after myself a few weeks ago (after I confessed about my appalling dietblush) and I really upped my intake of yummy whole foods as a result. Lots of nuts and seeds and cut down in caffeine and upped water- felt loads better really quickly.
Unfortunately the bad habits are starting to creep back in, and the good food is slowly falling by the wayside again.
Hopefully this thread might provide a bit of a kick up the bum, my DM always says 'eat rubbish, feel rubbish' and its so bloody true!

fuzzpig Tue 14-May-13 23:26:24

I get cycle-related cravings too. I am starting to be more selective with the junk food I do eat though - for instance I'd rather have one amazing slice of cake than several crappy cheap ones.

Welcome howi - what kind of food do you like? smile

howiwonder Tue 14-May-13 23:37:05

I'm not a huge meat or fish eater. Love cheese, most green veggies- love most veggies in fact. I have to say I also love carbs though, and can't imagine life without bread. Also have quite the sweet tooth

Grockle Wed 15-May-13 08:10:07

Right, day 1. I've had no breakfast but had some milk & blueberries.

I'm taking a pot of nuts to work for lunch - I used to do that & a handful of nuts & seeds would fill me up much more that a bag of crisps or sandwich. I seem to have a dodgy tummy today (maybe its complaining about yesterday's diet).

howiwonder Wed 15-May-13 08:36:19

It's true Grockle, nuts are way more filling aren't they. I suppose it's just about having the right things to hand when you do want that snack. I need to do a big shop and stock up on healthy bits.
Today's started well- porridge with linseed, honey and strawberries. I totally agree with the whole idea of adding good things in rather than focussing on taking away.
Has anyone here ever done any courses on nutrition? I've always fancied it but haven't found one that's quite right for me, ie fairly basic, family orientated

fuzzpig Wed 15-May-13 09:22:43

Never done a course. Before I got ill though, I helped run a 'cooking for parents' course at SureStart as a volunteer, which involved a bit of training. Nothing too in depth nutrition wise, as the aim was making it accessible.

tourdefrance Wed 15-May-13 12:02:03

Hello can I join? I need to eat more fruit and veg. I did an OU short course on human nutrition 2 years ago which was really good. Paid for with Tesco vouchers which you can't do anymore unfortunately. It said your diet should be one third f+v, 1/3 carbs and protein, dairy, fats and sugars the rest. So really need to have f or veg with every meal

howiwonder Wed 15-May-13 12:07:25

That's an easy way to think of it Tourdefrance, I'm definitely not quite there yet...

Grockle Wed 15-May-13 20:38:07

I'm not there either but it's a useful thing to remember.

I didn't have a lunch break today so I came home & ate cereal & a bag of hula hoops. Not quite the healthy dinner I planned!

More nuts ordered though. I'm going to finish my order asap & will report back when it's all delivered.

tourdefrance Thu 16-May-13 07:08:08

Just having breakfast - porridge with hidden banana and visible sultanas for dc and with berries straight from the freezer for me. I find it much easier to eat fruit at breakfast during the week than at the weekend when dp does dc breakfast and the dc and its often toast for everyone. Also take fruit to work but can go all day at weekend without eating any.

howiwonder Thu 16-May-13 10:25:55

I think I will stay quiet about what I had for breakfast..blush

I have lactose intolerance and IBS (the kind that needs a low fibre diet and lots of loo roll blush
Having a sweet tooth, I really miss proper desserts. A compromise for me is to have a (lactofree) yoghurt with a punnet of blueberries. Not as individual items, but mixed together in a naice tall bowl and eaten with a long sundae spoon. Stupid but it works!

buildingmycorestrength Thu 16-May-13 13:17:48

Sounds delicious!

fuzzpig Thu 16-May-13 18:32:14

Sounds lovely married - I also find that yoghurt and banana and grape nuts (a type of cereal) seems outrageously indulgent if I layer it up in a glass!

fuzzpig Thu 16-May-13 18:35:04

BTW has anyone heard of cocoa nibs? I tried them in a chocolateir class (hen party grin) and they are quite yummy - thinking of getting some to put in porridge instead of heaps of sugar...

howiwonder Thu 16-May-13 20:02:49

i dont think i have heard of them fuzzpig , what are they like? chocolately? i load porridge up with honey, cant bear to have it without a bit of sweetness

Grockle Fri 17-May-13 13:30:10

I put brown sugar on my porridge. I can't do without the sweetness but I have cut back a lot. I read somewhere that if you add cinnamon, that can help to satisfy the sweet craving so you use less sugar.

I got some Black Cohosh because I read somewhere that it can help with nightsweats. I am not convinced. Who mentioned expensive wee? Mine is, um, noticeably different since starting all these supplements. I honestly don't think any of them are helping.

Grockle Fri 17-May-13 13:30:53

cacao nibs sound good. I know several people who rave about raw chocolate.

looseleaf Fri 17-May-13 16:47:52

fuzzpig sorry to only just see your question, what bothers me is when people think low fat is helpful for example as I think it just leaves the body lacking an important part of what it needs and would leave you with strong cravings. I'm described as skinny by friends but a big believer in full fat milk, eating pork fat etc.! So to me any diet menu that includes egg white omelette and salad just isn't going to be nourishing enough to be sustainable. And I like the ideas on this thread!
. I also found a book called Nourishing Traditions v v helpful as interests me about how preparation methods are important eg rice cakes aren't ideal.
I'm sure when I'm focusing on eating well (not often enough!) it gets quite expensive though I find our weekly veg box a real help

tourdefrance Fri 17-May-13 20:25:53

Totally agree looseleaf . Nothing wrong with salad but food needs to be varied and enjoyable. Everything in moderation. I am often considered 'skinny' and people are surprised to see me enjoying cake as if its not possible to be thin without cutting out all unhealthy food.

Grockle Fri 17-May-13 21:15:10

I love full fat milk. I often have it. There's something about vitamin D needing fat or something confused [fibrofog]

Today I have had loads to drink which is a good start to me. I know I need to drink more and it feels good when I do. I can't drink water but dilute squash is ok, so I get the high-juice ones. I forgot breakfast and lunch but ate a proper dinner - a big pile of salad (amazing, for me recently) and a small slice of pizza. I'm still really thirsty.

howiwonder Sat 18-May-13 21:15:12

that book sounds fascinating looseleaf

i have just received this nice neals yard book called healing foods, a great reference guide to the beneficial properties of food, 4.99 from the book people

Grockle Sun 19-May-13 19:50:05

I started the day with a homemade waffle with banana, blueberries, strawberries & raspberries then had another banana for lunch. Went a bit downhill after that as we had a tea party this afternoon.

If nothing else, my supplements seem to have had a positive affect on my nails- they have grown loads & are longer & stronger than ever.

tourdefrance Mon 20-May-13 06:37:39

What is your waffle recipe like Grockle? We have waffle most weekends since sil gave us a recipe using vegetable oil instead of butter.
I was at a children's birthday party yesterday so my lunch was a few chips then an apple later and a piece of malt loaf when I got home. I was starving by tea time.

Grockle Mon 20-May-13 23:16:00

It's more like a cake recipe but the waffles are lovely - I think it's 100g of butter & sugar, 2 eggs, 100g flour & a bit of lemon zest or vanilla.

Today I've had 2 bananas, some milk, berries, nuts, grapes, cake.

Grockle Wed 22-May-13 23:44:23

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