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Severely Itchy private parts...

(41 Posts)
Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 02:19:41

For the past 3 months, i've suffered with red angry skin both back and front, sometimes it bleeds, and i can make my underwear wet with the clear discharge i get from the skin, i've had 3 different sets of anti biotics, and now i just wanna cry, because its really effecting me everyday, constant itchy, its burns when i go to the loo. Its not any UTI or Thrust.

Anyone had this before?

My mother in law has lichen sclorosis that she descibes in similar way. Could it be the same?

Daughteroughter Tue 02-Apr-13 02:35:32

Hi no help but I have same prob, ip which is why I am up now. Am so hacked off with it

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 02:39:25

Im getting sick of having to sleep with a natural yoghurt soaked towel, its gross.

3littlewomen Tue 02-Apr-13 05:59:50

Have you been checked for sugar in your urine? This can cause severe irritation of the private bits.

Montybojangles Tue 02-Apr-13 06:26:42

Has your doctor taken swabs or skin srape to culture? Why aren't they referring you in to see a specialist. Could it be psoriasis? Are you sure it's not thrush?

What is the purpose of the yogurt towel by the way?

sannaville Tue 02-Apr-13 07:53:07

It couldn't a STD at all? Or have the ruled that out? I'd ask for a referral to a dermatologist x

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 09:02:45

STD is ruled out because i havent had sex in some time, sugar was tested, that was fine. I will now have to see a specialist, because doc said if the Co-amoxiclavin didnt work then thats the next step, i gotta see the doc in 2 days. The yoghurt towel provides enough relief to help me sleep a bit, it gets really itchy at night. Thrush has been ruled out, canesten made it sting like crazy.

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 09:07:25

This morning has been quite painful, my skin is so red and angry, its like its spreading outwards too.

sannaville Tue 02-Apr-13 09:14:55

Hmm sometimes stds can lay dormant for some months or years , my friend had herpes and was in agony with a severe rash they gave her Acyclovir for it not sure if you could try some over the counter to see if it helps (same ingredient that treats cold sores I think) .

I'd be tempted to go to a GUM clinic as they will give you a full check over and then refer you on immediatley when results come back clear . Hope you're better soon

magimedi Tue 02-Apr-13 14:23:35

I don't know what age you are, Louly, but if you are menopausal or post menopausal it could well be vaginal atrophy. Your symptoms sound very similar to mine a couple of years ago. I am 57 & post meno.

I'm copying & pasting what I wrote about it on another thread for you::

Vaginal Atrophy (VA) is what happens post menopause & it is my mission to make more women aware of it.

Basically (& you can google for the finer details) the lack of eostrogen causes great dryness up your fanjo. It makes sex painful & also leads to itchiness that makes thrush seem mild. It is horrible & causes enormous discomfort. I had to rush to the loo just to scratch - the itchiness is almost unbearable. The itch is both inside your fanjo & all over your vulva & you can get a discharge with it.

If you are menopausal or post menopause & get an itch and/or great dryness during sex do look at the possibility that it could be VA & go to see your GP.

It is easily sorted out with topical eostrogen in the form of 'Vagifem', a small pessary that is inserted into the vagina with an applicator.

You need a 25mcg dose daily for 2 weeks & then twice weekly for 4 weeks & then a maintenance dose of 10mcg twice weekly.

There is a great deal of argument about giving women vagifem long term &, it seems to me, that many health professionals are not up to date with recent research.

I discussed this with my GP with this piece of research:

www.menopausematters.co.uk/newsitem.php?recordID=83

You do need to keep up to date with mammograms & smears but otherwise no side effects.

I tell a lie about the side effects - it has hugely helped my pelvic floor (this is well documented). I can now cough without fear of leakage.

I was lucky & had a GP who instantly diagnosed VA - but, sadly, it is not something that is well known or discussed.

IT NEEDS TO BE! (I know I am shouting!)

For post menopausal women it is a massive discomfort & indignity that they do not need to suffer, as it is easily managed, & women need to be aware of it.

TheDevilsGherkins Tue 02-Apr-13 14:31:48

Lichen sclerosis. GPs are shamefully ignorant of it.

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 14:43:21

Im 30, so not near that age yet, this all started from UTI infection, that is now a rash that is slowly spreading outward towards my legs, all i know is i get so sore sometimes i could cry, the symptoms arent so bad when im on my period, its weird but the towels help somehow, and the discharge from the skin doesnt soak my underwear, and now i've run out of Aqueous cream, 2 tubs in 2 months.

magimedi Tue 02-Apr-13 16:17:53

I would go back to your GP & ask for a referral to a gynaecologist (sp?). The utter misery of having a constantly itchy fanjo should not be put up with.

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 16:20:44

Magi, im going back in 2 days, as she said if the new treatment didnt work then i'll have to see someone, its a good job im on anti depressants, coz i just feel shit.

magimedi Tue 02-Apr-13 17:26:44

Louly I feel for you, I really do. A couple of years ago I had a few months of this, until VA got diagnosed & things got sorted.

So pleased you are going to see someone soon. In the meantime, have you tried taking an anti-histamine tablet?

BLOO3Z Tue 02-Apr-13 17:38:45

Have you tried sitting in a bath with salt in as the salt may help as antiseptic. also aqueas cream won't be helping, try sudocrem which has lavender an zinc in to heal..try to wear pant liners too, you can puts loads of sudocrem on then without damaging your pants...

Loulybelle Tue 02-Apr-13 17:44:22

I did the sudocrem, thing, its sting like crazy.

Thistledew Tue 02-Apr-13 17:48:35

Have you tried a pure aloe vera gel? I suffered from itching - not as badly as you but was being woken in the night by it. The Dr couldn't find a cause and the medicated creams were quickly becoming less and less effective. I started off with a pure aloe vera twice a day and now use a witch hazel gel. It hasn't completely cleared it up but provided I use one or other after my shower I rarely get any discomfort. The witch hazel is slightly astringent so I would try the aloe if I were you but the witch hazel does give enough tingle to remove the desire to scratch without sending you howling for the shower.

HotCrossFRIGG Tue 02-Apr-13 17:48:41

It could well be herpes,have they tested for it?
it can lay dormant for years and could have been triggered by the uti.
ask for some Acylovir,it will numb the area and stop the itching,allow the sores to heal and stop the cycle.

Montybojangles Wed 03-Apr-13 06:52:46

Canestan might sting if the skin is that raw, even if it is thrush. If it started after antibiotics for a uti then it really might be thrush. Did you try the oral thrush treatment -fluconazole tablet? And you can get the cream ingredients in a vaginal pessary. Might be worth a go.

carlywurly Wed 03-Apr-13 07:29:47

Second vote for aloe Vera. I get this once a month and wondered if I,m allergic to my moon cup, of all things. Scratching makes it worse, but aloe Vera allows the skin to heal to a level where the itch is manageable, and it's usually gone quickly afterwards.

rabbitstew Wed 03-Apr-13 08:43:47

I hate aqueous cream. It has, in any event, been proven not to be a good moisturiser, but to dry the skin out and damage it in the long term, particularly if used for moisturising purposes (it has sodium lauryl sulphate in it, which is in shampoo and similar products so should NOT be left to soak into the skin) and to be positively bad for eczema, despite having been used for years (because it's cheap) as the first thing doctors recommended people with eczema to try... Frankly, I wouldn't even use it as a soap substitute. And you can be allergic to it, anyway.

Even if it is not being made worse by the aqueous cream, there could be something else you have become sensitive to and are having an allergic reaction to. You say it is a bit better when you have your period. Do you have your pants directly against your skin for the rest of the month? Could you have become sensitive to the residue of whatever washing powder you use?

And finally, has the GP actually swabbed you and had the discharge tested to find out what bacteria or fungal infections are causing the problem? No point trying to treat it "blind."

Loulybelle Wed 03-Apr-13 10:10:35

So i took a piriteze tablet, getting desperate, and used a little bit of Timodine cream on my backside, and it doesnt sting to pee now, the skin is red raw and all dry still, but atleast im not sore or itchy.

CajaDeLaMemoria Wed 03-Apr-13 10:18:23

Honestly, try Acylovir for a few days. I'd be surprised if it didn't immediately help.

A girl at work had this...she was so uncomfortable, she took to sleeping in the bath. We got her some Acylovir at Boots over lunch, and by the end of the day she looked like the happiest person ever. She's never mentioned it again, so I presume it's doing a good job keeping it at bay!

If not, mention lichen sclerosis to your GP.

Have you had swabs done - these can be used to rule out thrush and bacterial infections. Definitely stop using aqueous cream - Dermol 500 is quite a good soap substitute and you should ask for a different emollient.

Lichen sclerosus is treated with steroid cream and generally dermovate - you can look up the treatment guidelines here.

Coffee1Sugar Wed 03-Apr-13 16:41:02

Sorry op but sounds definitely like LS. My best friend has it - exactly as you do

Loulybelle Wed 03-Apr-13 18:48:02

No swabs taken, but will speak to the doc tomorrow and mention LS to her, its not so bad today, minor itch, but otherwise ok, the skin still looks like i've burned.

bonzo77 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:55:00

I'd suggest a GUM clinic and a dermatology referral. What a disgrace that you've had to put up with it for this long. My vulva has been very itchy, it turned out to be a sort of residual reaction to thrush (which had long gone). It was red and raw, and resolved totally with some strong steroid cream used for about 3 days. But mine was nowhere as awful as yours sounds. You poor poor thing.

Loulybelle Wed 03-Apr-13 19:00:36

Thanks Bonzo, i've had many types of medication for this. including 3 types of antibiotics, aqueous cream, timodine cream and a rectogesic for the fissure i have, i couldnt use the rectogesic, because it gave me the worst headaches and i felt so sick.

Coffee1Sugar Wed 03-Apr-13 19:06:35

Ask for trimovate cream - its amazing!! I used it for general soreness of the vulval skin after dd's birth. It has a steroid and anti fungal in. Does stain knickers though so wear primark cheapies. Cannot recommend enough! grin

Coffee1Sugar Wed 03-Apr-13 19:07:00

Btw, the gynae consultant recommended it but GP can prescribe too

Loulybelle Wed 03-Apr-13 19:14:42

Arent Timodine and Trimovate the same, if not my chemist made a fuck up.

Coffee1Sugar Wed 03-Apr-13 19:53:01

I dont know sorry just that trimovate is a very thick greeny/yellow cream

Loulybelle Wed 03-Apr-13 20:13:49

I have a yellow cream in a tube, that stinks to high heaven.

Coffee1Sugar Wed 03-Apr-13 20:19:22

Perhaps then! It stains like buggery and even when you wipe yourself after a wee dont be alarmed by yellow/green gunk!

Loulybelle Tue 09-Apr-13 16:06:50

Well its getting worse, i can now peel off bits of skin that feel like plastic and i now have a pin head type red rash all over me, itches like mad.

Coffee1Sugar Tue 09-Apr-13 17:45:54

Have you been checked at a gum clinic? Not suggesting an std but those doctors will have much more experience of vulval issues than a gp

ScrumpigMum Thu 11-Apr-13 21:05:10

It sounds like Lichen Sclerosis to me. Doctors are shamefully unaware. There are several chats on this on mumsnet, and some very good advice and chats on patient,co.uk. Whatever you do don't look for images, there are horror stories out there and it isn't like that for most of us. Do get a diagnosis quickly and start treatment. If it is LS the sooner you get treatment, the more chance of reversal or at least stopping the symptoms. You need a referral to a Vulval Dermatologist if you can get one, not all gynies are that knowlegable about this either, it's an autoimmune skin condition not a gynacological one.
Good luck and I sympathise with you.

Loulybelle Fri 12-Apr-13 10:19:21

Well, im on Daktacort and double base gel, had swabs taken, and now have to see a vulva specialist, the chemist was very sympathetic about how i've put up with this for 4 months, its slowly getting better, but not fast enough.

3WiseYonis Fri 12-Apr-13 17:23:37

Pleased to hear it's getting a bit better.

Hope you get to see the vulva specialist asap.

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