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Heart attack symptoms? Or just me being silly...?

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wrinklyraisin Mon 01-Apr-13 18:23:35

My OH is upstairs in bed. He's been unwell since last night, bad indigestion he said, and feeling like he might throw up. We ate the same food (pretty heavy on the fat content yesterday!) so I don't think it's good poisoning. He says it hurts right below his chest bone, like a bad stomach ache. He's overweight, but usually quite active. Today he's been out of breath going up and down the stairs. His face is quite flushed but more purple than red iyswim? He's also quite clammy and sweaty on and off, but no fever. He insists he's ok and just needs to sleep. I'm worried its more serious... My instinct is erring on the side of caution but I don't want to be a paranoid fool if its just a tummy bug.

Anyone have any advice?

QueenOfCats Mon 01-Apr-13 19:20:41

I would err on the side of caution and get him checked out.

The clammy thing would worry me.

Jollyb Mon 01-Apr-13 19:23:08

I would call 999

PhilMckrakin Mon 01-Apr-13 19:23:42

A and E as soon as you can all of those symptoms ring alarm bells. You should always err on the side of caution with chest pain.

OhThisIsJustGrape Mon 01-Apr-13 19:25:56

Could it be gallstones or a problem with his gall bladder? Eating fatty food can trigger an attack I believe.

Prob best to ring NHS direct and see what they say, hope he's feeling better soon and that it's nothing serious OP.

PaschalFancy Mon 01-Apr-13 19:30:08

Wot they all said ^^. Definitely better to err on the side of caution.

A&E or at the very least NHS Direct (but only if the wait isn't too long - I imagine they'll send you to A&E anyway with that list).

LittleTyga Mon 01-Apr-13 19:31:08

Can you feel his pulse? If it is irregular it could be a heart attack. If you call nhs direct they will advise you. It does sound like it could be to me for what it is worth.

Maat Mon 01-Apr-13 19:32:00

I was thinking gallstones / gall bladder also.

My mum got rushed into hospital with excruciating chest pains one Christmas Day night following a day of eating lots of fatty food / cream etc.

It turned out to be problems with her gall bladder which she eventually had removed.

Either way - he needs checking out. I hope he starts to feel better soon OP.

lemontwist Mon 01-Apr-13 19:41:00

Get him seen asap. It may be nothing serious but the combination of symptoms could be pointing to a heart attack. You don't have to be keeling over clutching you chest. Chest pain, shortness of breath and clamminess would get you seen sharpish in a&e.
Hope its nothing but please get him looked at.

Jollyb Mon 01-Apr-13 19:43:08

NHS direct will (and should) tell anyone complaining of chest pain with associated breathlessness and clamminess to call an ambulance. Gall bladder and cardiac pain can be very similar.

FancyPuffin Mon 01-Apr-13 19:43:25

999

Please. Could be nothing, could be something...

My dh was one of the 'somethings'

lemontwist Mon 01-Apr-13 19:43:31

Meant to add-don't feel silly calling 999 for something like that. Its exactly what they are there for.

MrsHoarder Mon 01-Apr-13 19:47:16

With chest pain they would rather see someone even if half an hour on an ecg rules out a heart attack. 999 time...

Umanayana Mon 01-Apr-13 19:47:34

With those symptoms, I would be calling an ambulance. It may well be gallstones, or just food poisoning but my FIL had all those signs and had a massive heart attack. I do hope it's nothing serious OP but please get him checked over. Good luck.

IamtheZombie Mon 01-Apr-13 19:47:58

Definitely 999.

Zombie's late DH had 3 heart attacks which he ignored. She witnessed the 3rd one and it was just as you describe. DH did live for another 12 years, but it could have been much longer had he sought medical help sooner.

FancyPuffin Mon 01-Apr-13 19:47:59

I should add that dh is fine now.

Re-reading my post it sounds a tad dramatic blush

Lucyellensmum95 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:51:16

Please call someone, get that stubborn fucker to the hospital ASAP - they will not think you are being silly, it is what they are there for. FWIW i am betting on gallstones but there are too many red flags for my liking, id get him checked.

My dad had bad indigestion, was clammy and disorientated. Within an hour he was dead from a heart attack. Please get him checked out ASAP, even if he's not overly concerned.

Jollyb Mon 01-Apr-13 19:56:46

I'd still get him checked over. Some people can have heart attacks with surprisingly few symptoms.

digerd Mon 01-Apr-13 21:14:01

My dad too, but he was 75 and had these symptoms plus others for a year.
Culminated in 2 weeks of sweating, losing the strength in his legs, could hardly breathe while walking, had a pain in his upper stomach and felt he had to be sick, but wasn't.
His was a blood clot which stopped the flow of blood to his heart muscle. He died suddenly in bed. Dad was not overweight and had been a very fit man.

Get him checked. Red in his face is a sign of blood pressure being very high.
Good luck

999 now
Nhs direct will call you an ambulance any way with those symptoms so why waste the time ?

Even if its nothing they won't mind you getting checked out

I've been in a & e / emergency assessment all weekend and people were walking in and walking around fine and popping out for cigarettes but because they had chest pain they were seen and checked over

Badvoc Mon 01-Apr-13 21:18:54

999
Now

Bluelightsandsirens Mon 01-Apr-13 21:18:57

You really should dial 999 they will send a para in a car at the very least and check him out at home.

Best safe than sorry and all that.

Sick and clammy are signs as well as arm and jaw ache and a feeling of impending doom.

cece Mon 01-Apr-13 21:20:56

I agree, get him seen. My dad died earlier this year after suffering clamminess, breathlessness and red face. Turned out to be a massive heart attack.

QuickLookBusy Mon 01-Apr-13 21:21:12

Hope everything is ok wrinkly

Chugnut Mon 01-Apr-13 21:25:44

Please call 999 my DP had the same symptoms last week, was fine for periods then in pain and even saw theGP who said nothing was wrong. I called OOH on the third time who called the ambulance. DP had had a heart attack and is recovering after having a stent fitted.

Bluelightsandsirens Mon 01-Apr-13 22:39:03

How is everything op?

lemontwist Mon 01-Apr-13 22:40:39

I hope that no response to this thread means that DH is in hospital being looked after. Fingers crossed it'll be something really minor but if not really hope things are okay OP.
Please come back if you get chance and put our minds at rest.

wrinklyraisin Mon 01-Apr-13 22:46:55

He's insisting he's ok. Sat on the couch next to me, drinking ginger ale and saying he's ok. I'm not convinced and I'm scared, but he won't listen FFS. And I am not in the uk, but it's easy enough for me to call an ambulance if I need to. I hope I won't. He won't let me drive him to hospital. Ugh. SOOOOOO FRUSTRATED. And scared. He's a grown man and he won't admit there's a problem and get seen. What do I do? He does seem a little better than earlier. But I've got that feeling of impending doom even if he doesn't.

Do you have the equivalent of NHS direct where you are?

Could you show him this thread and get him to see that you are being cautious rather than neurotic?

We - as a collective - tend to worry more about 'causing a fuss for nothing' than the real dangers we might be in. It's ridiculous really - tell him you are calling to be on the safe side.

wrinklyraisin Mon 01-Apr-13 23:06:35

I do wonder if its gall bladder related. He's complaining of upper right quadrant pain that kind of goes around to his back. Plus he's now got diarrhea. He's in the bathroom now. Keeps telling me to quit worrying. I want to punch him, knock him out, and drag him to the ER myself. Seriously, why do they insist they're fine?!?!?

purplewithred Mon 01-Apr-13 23:09:06

On the face of it clammy, chest pains,shortness of breath, overweight, assuming no regular previous history of indigestion, male - I'd be concerned. Perfectly reasonable to call an ambulance, would be considered a very sensible thing to do. Is he still suffering the symptoms or have they gone?

wrinklyraisin Mon 01-Apr-13 23:11:00

It's hard to tell. He knows I'm worried about him now so he's being all chipper. He's still breathing quite fast/shallow but his color has improved. I just don't know. Ugh.

purplewithred Mon 01-Apr-13 23:11:15

Oops cross post. Obviously if he sees a doctor it might be proven that something's is actually wrong whereas as long as he refuses then technically there is nothing wrong with him. Obviously.

Just tell him you are calling an ambulance!

QueenOfCats Mon 01-Apr-13 23:20:10

I would be feeling the same as you.

Can you call an ambulance - he can refuse to go with them but at least he will have been checked out. And if they suspect heart issues he may be willing to follow their advice?

lisad123everybodydancenow Mon 01-Apr-13 23:21:03

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

lemontwist Mon 01-Apr-13 23:22:07

Show him this thread. Or call an ambulance for him anyway. I have seen people in the middle of a heart attack who at first glance look fairly fit and well. If he turns out to be fine, great, nothing lost. If he is very poorly and he gets seen quickly then potentially EVERYTHING gained.

The pain round the back is worrying too. All bad signs. Ring an ambulance.

cece Mon 01-Apr-13 23:31:39
PaschalFancy Mon 01-Apr-13 23:32:06

Call an ambulance.

Just seen cupoftea's comment that being disoriented was one of her DF's symptoms (so sorry, cupoftea) If he has had a heart attack, he may need someone else to be making the decisions right now.

cece Mon 01-Apr-13 23:32:33

I should add I filled in the survey based on what you are saying and it flashed up in RED DIAL 999

ivykaty44 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:32:50

Chest pains and breathlessness could be a pulmonary embolism

Get it it checked

It isn't nothing otherwise he wouldn't feel pain

Hope your ok op

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Mon 01-Apr-13 23:33:28

Call an ambulance, if you're wrong you'll have a bit of flack to put up with later but that is better than being right and doing nothing.

ivykaty44 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:36:20

Ask him if he would be happy for you to stay home with chest pains and breathing problems or whether he would be happier to get you his ds checked over.

How is he?

corblimeymadam Tue 02-Apr-13 06:20:43

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

wrinklyraisin Tue 02-Apr-13 08:47:44

I'm in the ER with him now. He finally gave in at 2am and admitted he should get seen. Having tests etc done now. Am scared but at least he's in the right place now. Thanks for all your replies. I read him the riot act about taking all this seriously. I'll update when I can.

ParsingFancy Tue 02-Apr-13 08:53:41

Most relieved to see that. Very best wishes to you both.

greenhill Tue 02-Apr-13 09:00:46

Hope everything is ok. You are in the best place x

Lucyellensmum95 Tue 02-Apr-13 09:09:49

Wishing you well x

Madsometimes Tue 02-Apr-13 09:12:22

Handholding for both of you. I'm pleased that he relented, and is in the right place.

I have a stubborn dh with a doctor aversion, and I know that he would be very similar.

FancyPuffin Tue 02-Apr-13 09:19:17

Hope that everything is okay raisin

Keeping my fingers crossed..

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Tue 02-Apr-13 09:19:23

Hoping all is well.

wrinklyraisin Tue 02-Apr-13 09:25:08

So far he's ticked all the boxes for heart attack and gall stones. He's drugged up and on monitors. I hate seeing him so ill. He looks so frail. Usually he looks like a bear. Horrid horrid horrid. Praying like mad.

MrsHoarder Tue 02-Apr-13 09:44:53

Sorry to hear your worries were justified, glad that you are in the right place though.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, its terrifying seeing someone you love looking frail.

notapizzaeater Tue 02-Apr-13 09:51:56

He's now in the best hands, hope he starts feeling better in - men !!!

Lucyellensmum95 Tue 02-Apr-13 10:33:42

They will be able to tell what it is pretty soon - fingers crossed for gallstones xx either way, he is in the right place and will be set up for prompt treatment.

lemontwist Tue 02-Apr-13 12:25:06

So glad he gave in. Men can be stubborn! Fingers crossed that it turns out to be nothing too serious.

Very glad he's in the right place. Hope all is OK.

wrinklyraisin Tue 02-Apr-13 12:59:27

Still waiting on more results to confirm stuff, then put on place a course of action. Looks like a gallstone attack triggered a mild to moderate heart attack. I mean, seriously! Only my fella could get a double whammy like that. He's in the right place tho so I'm starting to panic less iyswim and think more to the fact he will be ok. Was very F'ing scared for a while there.

greenhill Tue 02-Apr-13 13:04:19

You need a hug, that sounds scary x

Madsometimes Tue 02-Apr-13 13:42:50

Lots more handholding. Heart problems are very treatable if caught early. Yes, your dh may need to modify his lifestyle, diet etc, but things will improve. You will both need lots of support though, because recovery from heart problems is linked to depression, a bit like after having a baby.

Oh love thank God he went. Sending positive vibes he gets the best treatment and some for you too x

cece Tue 02-Apr-13 16:19:14

Hope things are better today. Thank goodness you took him. x

Doyouthinktheysaurus Tue 02-Apr-13 16:46:06

Oh you poor thing. What an absolute nightmare.

At least he's in the right place now.

Look after yourself.

QOD Tue 02-Apr-13 17:08:56

Oh wow double whammy!

ExcuseTypos Tue 02-Apr-13 17:19:47

Oh what a shock!

He is in the best place now. Well done for nagging him!

Jollyb Tue 02-Apr-13 17:45:27

So glad he sought help. Get well soon.

lisad123everybodydancenow Tue 02-Apr-13 17:49:35

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PenguinBear Tue 02-Apr-13 18:44:02

Glad he let you take him and glad he's recieving treatment now.

wrinklyraisin Tue 02-Apr-13 18:53:12

Quick update. The ER has been amazing. Seriously cannot fault them, running as many tests as they did as quickly as they did, starting treatment within such a short time. My OH is literally a different man 12 hours later. He's on various meds, but they're happy with his progress as his heart rate has been stable for hours now, pain is managed too. I need to check but he's on antibiotics, beta blockers, aspirin, and another IV he's just finishing up. We will know more soon. The dr said something about him maybe coming home once he's been stable 24hrs. Then surgery can be scheduled after the antibiotics are done. Typically he's insisting he doesn't want to be admitted overnight now he's feeling better. But thank God, thank GOD, he did listen and let me drive him here. Lesson learned: sometimes it is serious. He's already joked a few times that he's never going to live this down. I said I bloody hope so, after everything I've gone through. FFS. I nearly needed heart attack treatment myself!!!

QueenOfCats Tue 02-Apr-13 19:05:05

Sorry to hear that your fears were justified, but so glad you finally got him to hospital and that he's on the mend!

Don't forget to look after yourself too thanks

Gingerandcocoa Tue 02-Apr-13 19:06:43

Wow how lucky he is to have an OH like you smile. Well done for insisting and taking him to hospital.

Hope he gets back home soon & that the road to recovery is bump-free smile

Chugnut Tue 02-Apr-13 20:50:25

Glad he got checked out. I hope he is in the mend soon

That's good to hear. I know how scary it is though.

Brandy's always good in this sort of situation wink

out2lunch Tue 02-Apr-13 23:54:37

good luck with everything op xxx

cece Wed 03-Apr-13 09:02:05

All sounding more positive today. smile

wrinklyraisin Wed 03-Apr-13 10:54:44

I just want to thank everyone who took the time to reply and helped me to listen to my inner voice that something was Not Right at all with my OH. It's all too easy to convince yourself you're over reacting. But I just knew it wasn't right, how he was, and reading all your replies helped give me the strength to act on my intuition and get him to see he needed help too. It probably saved his life. And I know it sounds corny but waking up with him right by my side this morning is the best feeling ever as 24hrs ago I was terrified I'd lose him.

He's on a cocktail of drugs and under strict instructions to rest, has follow up appointments out the wazoo, but, for now, he's fine and recovering well and very grateful in a manly lets not talk about it but I'm going to hug you tight all night kind of way.

lemontwist Wed 03-Apr-13 11:42:46

Aw wrinkly your post has slapped a big grin on my face. Glad all's going well and wishing your OH a speedy recovery.
grin

FancyPuffin Wed 03-Apr-13 12:33:08

Very glad he's being well looked after grin

I've been there and you may find you have a bit of a rollercoaster of emotions over the next few days. Come back and let us know how you're getting on smile

Aww that's lovely. Mn is great at times isn't it? Us nest of vipers do have a good side wink

cece Wed 03-Apr-13 18:17:25

smile

LittleTyga Wed 03-Apr-13 22:24:28

Glad all is well in the Wrinkly home smile

Umanayana Wed 03-Apr-13 22:29:00

So, so glad all is well!

wrinklyraisin Fri 05-Apr-13 16:19:48

Good grief. Honestly couldn't make this shit up.

OH doing amazingly well, figures he can go back to work and sit at a desk just to not use up his paltry sick days. Leaves for work, it's a very very sunny morning, I think "hmmm I'd rather he DIDN'T go" but figured a few hours at a desk is probably easier on him than trying to redecorate the bathroom (I kid you not. He is the worlds worst ill person, he can't rest for more than a day before he needs to get busy) anyway....

40 minutes after he leaves, I get a phone call. "Now don't get hysterical but...." says he. My heart immediately stops. Turns out someone ran a red light and he hit them at 45mph... Wrote off his car completely. But THANK GOD he's fine, the paramedics have checked him over and he's completely cleared to go home no worries. So can I come get him.

I swear to god, I'm going grey overnight plus I feel like there's this evil vendetta against my OH! Someone's using a voodoo doll on him or something. He's now sat at home trying to sort the insurance so he can go car shopping this weekend. I'm looking into the nearest legal source of pot cos quite frankly I need something to help me relax or I'll be the next one in hospital. FFS.

notapizzaeater Fri 05-Apr-13 16:33:37

Omg ! At least that's 3 - gallstones/heart/car .....

Sylvia in coronation street is selling pot blush

QOD Fri 05-Apr-13 16:38:39

Nope, he's done his 3 now, oh, unless he's part cat and got 9 lives?

Buy lottery tickets NOW!

wrinklyraisin Fri 05-Apr-13 16:41:52

That's exactly what he said, so we are getting tickets tonight. Will send you all a postcard from the Maldives if we win. (We bloody well better.)

cece Fri 05-Apr-13 18:10:24

What an eventful week in your house!

Never mind Corra you're starring in your own soap by the sounds of it grin

Hope you have a stress free weekend.

wrinklyraisin Thu 11-Apr-13 19:55:43

Well, over a week on and my OH is doing great smile he's eating better (I'm forcing us to fill half our plates with veg/salad) and trying zone gentle regular exercise. His gall bladder is bothering him still but we are planning surgery soon. His heart rate has been steady and good oxygen stats since the attack. I'm hoping that he's going to be lucky and get healthy and have no further issues. I'm super anxious a lot of the time still though. I'm not sure how to cope with the sometimes crippling fear i won't see him again as he drives off to work. I guess I just need to get over it.

We both ended up buying new cars smile as mine needed $4k of work and as it had 212,000 odd miles on it I thought screw it I will get a shiny new car too! So we have His n Hers parked in the driveway, causing much mirth in our family lol.

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