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ARGH fuckity fucking fuck. fucking bollox

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PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:30:22

I am laying on the sofa in agony. My back has 'gone' having stupidly decided to tidy the house in order for a 6 yr old boy to come for tea with DD, just in case his mother stopped for a coffee when she came to collect, having never been here before (and having a humungous beautiful house herself). Did she stop? no she didn't. make some lame excuse and disappeared with her DS.

So, for a pretty pointless reason other than my own pride which was not even noticed, I put my back out completely and utterly. On thursday evening. I have tried since then to get the pain and spasms under control and I simply can't.

DH has just left for the weekend to got to a stag do, DS has a stinking flu bug (he is 3) and luckily is feeling better today, but last night had a fever of 40 and was only reducing a little with meds. luckily he is now through that and although grotty, feeling much more perky with medicine. DD is snoty, cracked lips, but stoic and 'caring' for mummy.

The kids are well-behaved. Thank goodness we have a laptop, an i-pad, a Nintendo (which i didn't want DD to have) and an abundance of mostly scratched films to watch. Two of my friends are coming over this afternoon to help with the children/let me rest take valium but for now:

FUCKING HELL IT HURTS! And I can't even reach my coffee.

there. that's it. <lays back and sulks>

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:33:09

And. I don't even swear like this normally. THAT is how bad I feel.

hopefulgum Sat 26-Jan-13 08:35:56

Oh, you poor thing. I hope the valium helps. Any chance you might see a chiropractor,or doesn't that help?

I have no answers, but you do have my sympathy, especially with DH off having a lovely time.

I hope you feel better soon.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:45:48

hopeful unfortunately, dont think a chiropractor can really do so much in an 'acute' episode'. and saturday will cost a fortune. V won't really help as I need to take is 3 times a day at 5+mg for like 3 days, and I took one lower dose yesterday with just me and DS as DD was at school and DH at work, then 4mg twice when DH got home, hoping to see an improvement today. But no. I can't stand without a muscle spasm. I can't move without crying in pain. And I can't take any valium til friends get here as I have both the children. Yesterday DS was poorly enough to sleep with me. And, no point taking 2-4mg for it to not work, seeing as it's addictive. I will reserve it til I can take it properly so it works as a muscle relaxant.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:49:18

what I mean by the rambling post is it probably won't help as much as I would like, but it will let me feel a bit less bothered.

I wish DH had not gone on this stag do. Of all the fucking weekends for my back to be like this. And, monday/tues I had stinking bug, so not at work, not at work yesterday, as DS was poorly (although would not have been in anyway due to back) and this means I won't be in work again for at least one more week.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:52:06

and now I need a piss. Badly.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 10:27:20

more swearing.

my friends are not coming. my choice. friend is in early stages of pg and ds has what seems to be flu, so dont want her to get it. absolutely the right decision, i cant expect her to put herself in a risky position.

but, it leaves me completely up a tree!

my children are watching anastasia, followed by bartock the magnificant, followed by beans on toast followed by fern gully, fern gully the second one, tarzan...see a theme...

Annianni Sat 26-Jan-13 10:33:14

You need volterol tablets.
My back goes like that and they are the only thing that works for me.

I went from hugging the wall, unable to move and in tears, to walking normally in an hour.

bubblybottom Sat 26-Jan-13 10:43:20

The last time this happened to me(last feb) I was carted off in an ambulance on gas and air. 2 days running!! Morphine in hospital..

headlesslambrini Sat 26-Jan-13 10:50:32

if you have to get up then think about anything you might need whilst you are up eg glass of juice, packet of biscuits etc,

When mine goes on me the doctor keeps telling me to get up and move around so I don't stiffen up - not a fucking chance in hell!! I rest, rest and rest and I find that I get better faster rather than moving around. I have a lovely big sofa and just veg out on that with a duvet over me, the DC's usually bring me a bell to ring if I need anything which they usually ignore hmm I have also been known to sit in my car as is has heated seats and that also works, have you got a hot water bottle which you can use?

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 11:14:46

bubbly i have been there. Not actually gone to hosp, but really should have. Probably yesterday, should have. today, I can walk, in tears, slowly, holding onto walls and bent over, but walk neverheless, rather than crawling. yes, i have a wheat wrap.

anni I am taking diclofenac 3 x day permanently (thats voltorol? i think)

Norem Sat 26-Jan-13 11:58:55

Pavlov do you have a diagnosis for ths back pain?
Is there any way your own gp could see you today? Probably not I would imagine.
Could you ask dh to come home, you are really not fit and I am a bit upset for you that he went sad

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 12:06:20

Agreed - he may not have appreciated how much pain you were in but do you honestly think you would have gone away for the weekend and left him with the dc when he was feeling this rotten? I think it is fair to ask him to come back.

bran Sat 26-Jan-13 12:12:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

clam Sat 26-Jan-13 12:28:47

Your dh WENT AWAY ON A JOLLY leaving you like this?!!!! shock

If you can get to your laptop, I'd be researching solicitors re: divorce proceedings.

<<not much help, sorry>>

But you do have my sincere sympathies though. I'm recovering from surgery last week,after a badly-broken leg so am pretty immobile too. My kids are teens though and have been able to help, although as luck would have it, both they and dh have all gone down with a horrid flu-virus, so we're dependent on friends and family helping us out with meals, shopping and dog-walking. It's a nightmare.

piratecat Sat 26-Jan-13 12:32:55

get some cold on it op, something frozen. i can't imagine how you are coping you poor thing, mine went about ten yrs ago and i will never forget the agony.

clam Sat 26-Jan-13 12:36:53

Can you phone your doctor for a telephone consultation to see what else you can take and call on a friend to pick up a prescription for you? Dh has a man-drawer stuffed with useful painkillers (Tramadol, dihydrocodeine etc..) that he's been given after surgery, and if you can at least anaesthetise the pain (without feeling too groggy, as you're in charge of kids) you might be able to relax and perhaps click it out of spasm. Or at the very least, move around a bit.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 12:36:54

You need to get some help, if a friend or relative can't come, you're DH needs to come home.

You are in agony and shouldn't be left to deal with 2 young dc on your own.

BeaWheesht Sat 26-Jan-13 12:46:08

Mine did this 3 weeks ago. I needed a diclofenac injection - I have never know pain like the spasms - I've had a 9lb+ back to back induced labour And it was a piece of piss in comparison!

clam Sat 26-Jan-13 12:49:39

I'm still shock that your dh went away and left you like this. Do you think you're safe, or rather are are your kids safe, in this situation? If not, get your dh home NOW.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 12:56:06

noren yes I do - torn/prolapsed l5/s1 lumbar discs, unstable spine due to sever dehydration of the 'sick' disc and it's probably trapping a nerve, add to the mix something or other to do with facet joints and that just about covers it. just finally been put on a 12-15 waiting list to talk to a neurosurgeon about removing disc (partially) and spinal fusion.

And to be (a little bit) fair to DH. Although he does have a clue how much pain I am in, and that DS is poorly, we had plans to deal with it. It just so happens my friend had a positive PG test today, and now we know, I would not put her in that position. We suspected she might be yesterday, but DH would not have considered those things. If we had absolutely no-one to rely on he would not have gone I am sure. I will need to get someone to help, even if they can take DD out for a few hours as she is lumped with all this crap, just made her own sarnie sad

He is paintballing so not in communication right now. And bloody miles away. With no car. I have it. And it's a good job as I think DS might need to see GP too, his temp is too high for my liking (i will post about that seperately).

What A Fucking Disaster - All At Once!

No point me seeing a GP, I have everything that can be done - tramadol, diazepam, anti-inflammatories, paracetamol (my friend dropped some in the letter box for me) hot wheat wrap, it just so happens I can't take more than the basic level of tramadol, and no diazepam while DS is so poorly. I need to be able to drive (even if it bloody hurts). A GP can't do any more than that if he came to see me.

chocolatelime Sat 26-Jan-13 12:56:08

My DH has found a Tens machine to be very helpful with his severe back pain. I bought it from Ebay for £25. He also uses a back support.

Drug-wise he is on a scary cocktail. He has found Diclofenac suppositories and Amitriptyline very effective. He also takes 600mg Pregabilin daily to name but a few.

Hope that you start to feel better soon.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 12:58:01

clam yes they are safe now. I have not taken the painkillers I would normally take. I am in a lot of pain, and fed up and frustrated, but, if I need to move, I will. I promise if it changes so I feel they are not safe I will take action.

That is not to say I won't be calling DH to get himself home this evening instead of staying overnight. I may well still do that.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 12:59:35

choco yes, I have been on amytriptiline. I had gabapentin too. but both those drugs made me unable to function at all so I stopped. I have pregabalin in the drugs box, but I have not been brave enough to take it due to how the other stuff made me feel, and I gave them both good shots (5 weeks)

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 13:01:17

bea I often likened the level of this pain as similar/worse than labour pain. I laboured in the back too and it is very similar type of pain.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:01:38

So you're thinking of driving your DS to the dr, but you can hardly move and are on strong painkillers.

Sorry but you're being ridiculous.

Please do not drive.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:03:10

In fact I can only presume you're so high on painkillers that you aren't thinking straight.

lizzypuffs Sat 26-Jan-13 13:18:26

I remember another thread you were on pavlov. I'm sorry your back is so bad again. It sounds like you may have to call dh back if you can't get anyone to come over. I hope it eases soon for you.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 13:21:34

quick no I am not high on painkillers. I have taken the same painkillers that I take every day. 100mg tramadol slow release, 50mg diclofenac, 1000mg paracetamol (plus omeprazole). I take that every day for pain relief. I function daily on that fine, I drive, I work, I engage well actively and safely with the children in the car. Hence the significant pain levels now as I can't take more than that

What I would normally do in this situation, when I have acute pain is
1. lie down in bed with legs at an angle/cushions under to support natural s-shape in back
2. use heat wrap
3. take an additional 50mg tramadol and/or codiene 60mg.
4. Valium 5mg x 3 times daily
5. knees rocking gently eveey 2 hours.
6. mumsnet

But, I can't do any of those things in addition, apart from heat wrap, due to being alone with the children. I can probably take additional tramadol as that only makes me talk more grin

I would absolutely, never drive with the children (or without) if I was high on drugs.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 13:22:49

and, i can hardly mopve, but i will do whatever i have to for ds, dont care how much it hurts. am going to see if gp will come out though as he has thrown up and has temp of 40.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:24:35

It's not only the pain killers though, it's the fact you can barely move.
Please do not drive, it's just so dangerous for you, dc and other road users.

You can't move and DS is so ill you're thinking of taking him to the dr.

You NEED to get your DH back ASAP.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:25:32

Sorry x posted.

Yes get the dr to come round, he can check you and DS. Also get DH to come home.

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 13:31:10

Pav, can I just say quickly and affectionately - you utter twit! WHAT were you thinking, doing fecking unnecessary housework in your condition? You poor bugger.

So - you've the heat pack on your back, do you have any deep heat or tiger balm or anything like that you can rub in? Even Vicks would do at a pinch (has the menthol in it, same as tigerbalm, helps)

I agree to trying to get the doc out to you if needs be - much safer. Trying to move legs in a car situation with back pain like I can imagine you have would be sooooo painful and if it's at all icy and you brake suddenly or have an accident (God forbid).... no. Just don't, please.

Is there no one else you can ask to come and help out, even for just a couple of hours?

Norem Sat 26-Jan-13 13:32:00

Pavlov my ex dh was taken to hospital with acute an acute attack of his longstanding back pain ( which had no diagnosis) when he got there he was given Iv painkillers and an MRI scan. He was operated on 2 days later and has been pain free since. It was a herniated disk iirc.
Sometimes it is better for the medics to see you during an attack ?

Oh Pavlov. Sending you gentle hugs. No advice really but lots of sympathy - you know where I am if you want to talk.

In the meantime, get the GP to come to you if DS needs to be seen, and order pizza for dinner for the 3 of you.

Pavlov- if your positions were reversed, would you have left DP alone to hold the fort like this? Really?

And at the very least- why isn't he helping to tidy up before he goes off on this jolly?

I would be uncomfortable about him feeling its ok to leave you like this TBH.

chocolatelime Sat 26-Jan-13 14:12:10

Yes a good idea to the Deep Heat - there is a max strength version.

The side effects to the Pregabilin have not been too bad, as long as you build it up gradually. The main effect is occasional dizziness, but DH does not experience that at all anymore.

The other drug to consider is Naproxen which is an anti-inflammatory.

If I was local to you, I would come and give you a hand. I know how miserable severe back pain is and I can't imagine how you are coping with 2 young children. DH has just got his date for surgery and I am just hoping that it gets us out of this nightmare.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:12:13

stairs thumb it was my pride that resulted in the housework being done! I had a rather nice but 'affluent' mother coming around and, well due to my back and DH working long hours this week, it was a shitehole. I don't want people to think I can't cope, or live in a craphole, I want people to want their children to visit DD. I don't do it that often as my back has not allowed me to this year, so as I was feeling well, I wanted to let DD have some normality. DH had wed day off and got the back of it done, but not enough for me to feel happy having people I didn't know around. And my back felt 'fine' so, as always I pushed it too far, in the name of self-pride.

I am feeling significantly better, thanks to second dose of diclofenac, the heat wrap being almost constantly on me, and no longer stressing so much about DS. Spoke to doc who said it sounded like he had the flu, and said much sympathies to him! (but, also, not much that can be done). He has given me guidance to give him ibruprofen a little earlier than the bottle says and will call me at 3pm to see if temp is down. I am able to walk, just bent double and very cautiously!

He was quite sweet, said it was very busy in our area, but, if he is unwell and needs to be seen they will try to send someone out so I don't make my back work 'we'' work something out' he said but said if temp gets down and he hold water down in next hour, he should be ok. If not, main worry is dehydration.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:15:24

choco oh good luck to your DH for surgery, hope it gives him much relief. I can't take napraxen, had a bad reaction to it. I have some deep-heat, and also I have some ibruprofen gel. I will see if I can take that with taking diclofenac orally. Last time neither touched the pain as the spasms are so deep and it won't touch the sciatica. But worth a go.

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 14:17:54

Glad you're feeling better, just take it really easy (I know you will now, now the damage is done).

I've done my back in several times through unnecessary stuff - but the stupidest thing I ever did was to try and swing some rubbish into my wheelie bin - it was too heavy to lift direct, but I thought if I swung it and got some momentum going it would be easier. HAHAHA. What happened was I pulled the long muscles down both sides of my spine from trying to control the weight in the swing - I felt it "go" on the third swing and dropped everything but too late! I couldn't even breathe properly. I ended up with my back smothered in tigerbalm, with a thick college scarf tied around my middle as a sort of back support (tied it tight) and couldn't do anything much for 3 days until the muscle reaction died down.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:19:39

choco and thank you for offering to come and help.

I don't really feel like I can ask most of my friends. they have their own children, work etc, and tbh, don't understand where I am at with this. This friend of mine i spoke about is the one I rely on, and vice versa, like my sister and she of course is not able to come, for very good reasons! I have another friend (my other 'sister') who would be here at the drop of a hat, but she is working this weekend. And family live almost as far away as you can get in the same country! (Devon/Co.Durham!), or in another country - USA!

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 14:22:29

Oo, stick the deepheat on your sacrum - there are four foramina in the sacrum, aim for the third one (F in the diagram) especially and rub it in hard. It should help. smile

(NB - don't get the deep heat too close to your tail, in case it gets to the very thin and sensitive skin around your bottomhole... I've done that before when I bruised my coccyx, oh bloody hell it burnt!)

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:24:05

thumb yes it's the muscle spasms that are the problem, they can continue long after the actual problem that set them off eased. And, unfortunately they constrict the lumbar discs, and movement of fluid/blood into them the more frequently they spasm around the disc/facet joint, and the longer they spasm for each time, the sicker the disc becomes, and the more likely it is the spine will 'go' again as there is less disc to keep it in place. Which is why, after a long time fighting the use of diazepam I have succumbed to it as an acute muscle relaxant and relief method, normally as soon as it 'goes'. just can't do it on my own with the children.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:24:50

shock ouch! I shall go do that now (on the sacrum, not further down!)

chocolatelime Sat 26-Jan-13 14:30:07

Thank goodness you are feeling a bit better. It's horrible having to take so many painkillers, but when the pain is so intense there really is no other choice. You sound like you are coping fantastically well in a difficult situation.

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 14:31:10

Pavlov, you're making allowances for everyone else's weekend whilst you are in agony and potentially with a very sick child.

You need to get someone to come and help you, ideally DH. The paintball place would be able to get hold of him.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:43:46

trib yes, I am. I know. I am just used to asking and being given a million reasons why they can't - out with family, another friend, have their own sick kids, working, washing their hair. And I am stubborn. And embarrassed about asking for help. If I am honest about it.

DS is asleep, temp reduced to 39.1 DD is happily playing imagination with her fairies and dolls. I am going to make a coffee, and an ice cream smoothie for her, she is such a good girl she needs looking after too, and then I am going to lie back down, and maybe sleep a little (after finding the deepheat)

It's been a little hairraising but I have a few minutes breather to take some stock and calm a little before it all starts again! Hopefully that will give me time to calm the pain a bit.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:45:22

clam I meant to say as well, in all my 'mememe' post, sorry to hear about your bad leg break sad i hope you mend very soon, how horrible for you!

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 14:50:06

I know what it's like, Pavlov. People don't realise, and it makes the hurt of their casual prioritisation of their own shit even more difficult to absorb. This is why you need to be able to call on those who do get it - and given your friend has some (I'm assuming) difficult news to deal with today, it needs to be your DH.

Hope you manage to get some rest.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:09:09

trip not bad news, great news! pregnant after trying for many many years inc IVF. very early stage, tested this morning, and ds has flu. she cant risk getting it, for her own sake or baby's sake. i will ask my other good friend who is working if she will help put kids to bed, but she lives out of town, and means driving in 40 mins after working all day. she is a nurse, could probably do with a break from tending to sick people!

i have asked another friend if she will take DD to her swimming lesson tomorrow morning, voicemail, waiting for reply.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:14:02

if i call DH he will be so fucking grumpy about it i might as well struggle on as I am. As ( and yes making excuses for him) its his boss from work's stag doo, and given the environment he works in, he will have the major piss taken if he comes early. I know, I know, he should grow a pair. but, he has chosen to go, knowing how it is here, so on that basis, he is not exactly going to be all lovely and sympathetic about it, I'd rather do it on my own than have a stroppy teenager dutifully caring for me with the hump.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:14:49

and feel much much better now. pain levels 5/10 not the 7-8/10 this morning.

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 15:15:31

Oh I see - I couldn't work out why her test result would prevent her from coming to help you! Again, I can see why it's a very sensitive time for her but I would have thought there was plenty she could do to help that didn't involve close contact with ds.

That said - and I will say it again - the primary responsibility for looking after you and your dc is your DH's.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:19:17

she dropped off paracetemol! that helped a lot. and her dh will do any shopping if i need it. normally she is always there for me. i don't feel bad she cant help today.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:26:18

but you know what? we are broke as its the last week in jan. ans Sod It. I am getting an indian take-away. Just For Me.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:39:30

dh ain't coming home. course he isn't. 'in the middle of no-where, i can't'.

Good for you, all things considered the least you deserve is a takeaway! How's DS' temperature now, is it still coming down? How's DD doing?

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:53:46

joyful yes temp is right down now, window is open, he is mostly naked and asking questions about things on the tv 'what does solid mean?' 'what is he making? it might be a blue bear?' 'can I have some porridge?' (first time he has asked for food for days). So much much less worried about him. And even if his temp spikes again, I now know he is ok as it has gone down and he is ok for now, so not for example meningitis or something.

I however, am very cold wink due to window being open! I can sit a little with minimum pain, as long as I don't move, which is much improvement to earlier. and i've been able to drink coffee without pain!

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:56:18

and DD is her normal wonderful cheerful happy self, making ds laugh, offering to get me things, watching Art Attack, luckily she is well, just snotty.

clam Sat 26-Jan-13 16:05:33

So, your and your children's pain and discomfort is trumped by the fear of your dh's sulky strop at doing the decent thing for his wife and family. hmm

All I can say is that he'd better make it up to you when he gets home.

Your DD is an absolute gem. smile I'm glad to hear DS has improved, the barrage of questions suggests he's feeling brighter too!

If your friend can't help with bedtime would it be an option to have the children in with you? Or DS at least, so you don't have to get up to him?

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 16:46:05

clam DSs discomfort is not compromised by him not being here, he has not been too demanding, I have been worried, yes, but he has mostly needed cuddles, medicine, water, and some sick cleaned up, DH wouldn't have done much differently. But, my discomfort has been the sacrifice as I have had less opp to take care of myself, when what I actually needed was to go to bed with my pain meds and be very still. and not had to clean the sick up! Make it up to me? yeah. not this weekend. Not mon-wed when I am meant to working (if I get there) thursday? nope, he is working. Friday? nope I am working. the weekend? nope, he is working. It doesn't matter. My condition has long gone from being something that conjures much sympathy and love and care to something that is a pain in the arse that get's in the way of things, not just with DH, with people generally. Apart from MN and strangers I don't even know. But you have not listened to me bang on all day every day (close to though wink

joyful she is the best. I bought her a stash of pretty hairclips and bows for her hair in sainsbo sale the other day for rewards and treats when she has done great things, motivation was she went up a book level. I let her choose one of them. I think I am going to give her another one for being so fabulous today.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 16:47:24

joyful yes, they are both sleeping with me tonight. Or, rather, going to my bed, while I eat my take-away downstairs and watch casualty, if I can settle DS before that, he has had several naps today!

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 16:50:25

clam and not fear, I would just prefer that care and looking after of me is done with some love and kindness not with the atmosphere of a man whose mates are getting pissed without him and money been wasted. It's a moot point anyway, he isn't coming home. If I had continued in the same pain as I was at lunch time, I would have told him to get home by hook or by crook regardless of how much care he gave me.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 20:21:32

Indian take-away arrived, kids in bed, sofa all fluffed and comfy (took a while) and now, ready to settle for some time completely on my own.

Thanks for helping me through today. I got there I think. DS is asleep with low ish temp, DD is hedging her bets for watching tv with me but in bed. and my back is painful but I can move now.

Thanks again

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 23:05:51

Oh Pav - I totally get your point re. DH. And I suppose at least the DC have had a nice calm atmosphere in which to get better, rather than a super-charged grump-filled one.
I hope the deep heat is doing a good job on the sciatica for you and yes, just keep those muscles warm - it's probably going to hurt as much tomorrow (stiffer) but should be getting better by the day after, although the legacy you get from the muscle strain could be unpleasant - let's hope not though, eh. smile

Hope you get a decent night's sleep!

PavlovtheCat Sun 27-Jan-13 07:47:40

hey thumb deepheat has worked a little, although not sure how much is psychological as it burns a little so 'feel's' like it should do something iykwim.

Slept ok, after dealing with the Boy throwing up in bed, 15 mins into casualty starting, so that went out the window, but got to eat my take away first. Anyway, two children either side of me, tossing and turning so slept as well as can be expected! moving more freely, yes, stiff and sore, and some spasms and each step has to be trod with care as it keeps 'going' or rather threatening to go with each step, you know that wobble that almost has you collapsing in a heap? gingerly, slowly, but meds not kicked in yet and it's better than yesterday. DD has swimming lesson, already missed one due to other issues couple weeks ago, can't let her down, and know-one has come back to me able to take her. So, I will do it by hook or by crook.

PavlovtheCat Sun 27-Jan-13 11:21:48

Spams returned full force, walking with walls and dumb foot. But. Friend has just picked dd up for her swimming lesson amd the boy is where he is happiest.,.in the bath. I am lying on the bathroom floor with cushions under me. Cursing the iPad and its turning screen, have no idea how to lock the swivel. Texted my boss to let her know I am once again out if action. Poor woman it's not easy managing a team with me in it!

Dh has no idea when home, he was only one up when he called me at 9am. First one in bed at 1am but said couple people didn't drink so gonna get a lift with one of those if they are going in his direction. If not, he is stuck til some one is legal and unhungover enough to drive! So...3am, 21 units lets say, 1 hour per unit, prob 4-6 units already burnt up, 5pm? 2.5 hours away...he should have taken the car, not like I needed it!

This friend who has helped with swimming, she will prob stick around for a bit when she gets back from swimming, but, ds flu might put her off that!

Thumbwitch Sun 27-Jan-13 13:36:20

You poor love. But mega-hurrah for friend helping out with DD's swimming!
I hope she does stick around for a while, any rest you can get has to help.
Put more deep heat on your sacrum though. smile

PavlovtheCat Sun 27-Jan-13 13:46:50

She stuck around for a coffee, in the other room to ds as she was worried about getting flu, then remembered she had the jab before Xmas, but that he Dh needed to get to the gym, was at home with her dd waiting. So, as soon as ds cried out, and threw up spectacularly, she was gone! Admittedly she did wait til I cleaned him up, helped me get him out of (but not 'in') the bath and settled on the clean sofa, looking half concerned and half horrified! . All with her scarf around her mouth and nose! But, she helped out plenty, can't expect her to want to stick around and deal with sick children!

He really is a poorly mite. I am quiteworried, he has lost so much weight as he is not eating a thing (bit of toast this morning, tiny bit of pasta last night which he threw up)

PavlovtheCat Sun 27-Jan-13 13:47:48

Got another thread about his bug though, I am rocking and rolling this weekend ain't I?!

Thumbwitch Sun 27-Jan-13 14:00:35

You sure are! poor little soul, how awful for him - hope you're still able to give him lots of hugs.

PavlovtheCat Sun 27-Jan-13 14:01:39

Yes, but not too many he doesn't want me to touch him!

How are you and DS doing today?

Madsometimes Mon 28-Jan-13 12:06:56

Poor Pav. I read the title and just knew it was you sad.

The only thing I can suggest is calling the consultant's secretary, and asking if there is any chance of a cancellation appointment. I know this hardly ever works, but it did once for me, so it's always worth a go.

Hope ds is on the mend.

PavlovtheCat Mon 28-Jan-13 12:08:41

Hey joyful all feeling much better today. DS has been to docs, has a virus and ulcers on his throat, but nothing more sinister. He is perkier, but not eating. Bit nervous about his fever rising again though as doc said no ibruprofen as he is not eating, so only calpol and that does not seem to reduce it that much, but we will see how it goes. He is chattering away with me so that's good.

My back is better than it was all weekend. But, when I go to get up from sitting or laying, my legs buckle when I try to stHoand fully straight. But, once moving for a few minutes that sorts itself out.

PavlovtheCat Mon 28-Jan-13 12:11:54

you can tell my style of writing eh mads? grin.

Madsometimes Mon 28-Jan-13 12:14:37

Well it is quite distinctive, even though the fuckity fuck fuck fuck is not quite typical wink.

serendippity Mon 28-Jan-13 12:35:25

Pav you poor thing! I suffer with back pain but nowhere the severity you do. Rubbish advice but just for a teeny bit of relief try the patches you can get that heat up on their own. You can stick them to your back and they stay warm for hours. As for your ds, these things always, always happen at once don't they?? With ulcers on his throat he probably doesn't fancy any food but would he go for ice cream? My two never, ever eat when they're poorly and are often off their food totally for up to 2 weeks after a virus or vomiting bug. I get so worried as their very slim children and they can't afford to loose any weight! Ds just recently had a temp of 39/40 for 5 days, by the time he started to nibble things again I could count his ribs sad I know it's so hard but try not to worry too much. He'll probably pick up on it and food will become an issue, I know from very bitter experience. I once threatened to force feed my dd after an enormous period of non eating and I'm sure it put her off for even longer time (I didn't of course and still feel awful about even threatening it but I was beside myself with worry by then) I have since learned that at times like that until they start to recover the best thing to do is to let them eat whatever they will take regardless of what it is and however little they have. So far they've never not gone back to eating totally normaly afterwards, which was my worry. Dd once spent a week eating digestive biscuits and tomato soup, but was perfectly happy to go back to healthy home cooked meals, fruit and vegetables etc as soon as her appitite returned. I hope you both feel better very soon and my (probably not great advice) helps a little!

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