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step this way dear ones...the trolley will be here in a sec...

PenisColada Tue 15-Jan-13 07:29:10

Thanks I don't want to lose the thread again.

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 07:34:28

brew Anyone? Pen - holding your hand as expect you are feeling a bit nervous.

topsyturner Tue 15-Jan-13 07:42:07

Found you !

Much hand holding Pen , hope all goes smoothly for you .
If you are still feeling horrible when you get there , ask for a Pre med .

I'm still in bed . Have decided its too cold to get up ...

jchocchip Tue 15-Jan-13 07:55:23

Just going to work. Icy here. All the best for today, pen
Good call topsy

PenisColada Tue 15-Jan-13 08:43:39

Thanks can't stop crying . Off for a dog walk in a minute that will take my mind off it.

I have not packed yet but assume I don't need much until tonight / tomorrow morning. Dh is going to bring my bag down later.

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 10:15:04

((((pen)))) deep breaths. You'll feel so relieved when you wake. xx

Slumps down on cushions frustrated. DS is ill with mild stomach bug so whole week's upside down now. How's everyone else doing? I have brew on the go for those who want some. smile

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 10:19:35

Accidentally posted on the last thread so will c and p

Rushing on quickly to wish Pen loads of luck and good vibes for the op today, tell them you are very nervous my love - they will give you something to calm you down. xx

Off to catch up on your posts - have been out scraping away six inches of snow so I can put food down for the birds!

<puts meal worms and suet on the trolley>

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 10:30:07

Hooray for HND - brilliant news smile Hope she is home and well on the road to recovery v. soon.

Well done invicta smile

Lots of snow here, but for the first time ever they seem to have been ready for it and roads are well gritted, so no real problems.

DD is playing the accompaniment for a professional opera singer at a do on Sat. - and getting v-well paid for it. She went over to his bloody enormous mansion house to rehearse last night, he is v . nice and has 3 mad dogs and she loves dogs - so hopefully she'll get more work if he does other gigs.

She's also playing church organ on Sunday - so I have to walk to the church with her later in the week so she can practice on the organ (she claims it is spooky in there on your own!)

I'm really pleased she's picking up quite a lot of work at the moment (various other choirs etc also on the go and some teaching)

Have just realised I have book club on thursday - so have to read Howard's End by then, - have so far managed about 50 pages and it is D.U.L.L - someone tell me it gets better please.

Hope little Smee is better soon, and you don't catch his bug Smee.

Love and warmth to all xx

well done to dd kk -she is obviously much in demand. I used to collect T from junior choir thing which was held in a school next to old church and used to walk through the graveyard in the dark -the organist used to practice in the dark church so it was always rather spooky hearing these sounds coming out !
Poor ds smee - hope he feels better soon.

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 11:15:03

<takes meal worms off trolley and puts hot buttered crumpets on, whilst looking sternly at Kurri> grin

Kurri, 'Howard's End' kind of seeps into you from memory. All I ever remember from studying it is 'only connect', because that was the key to crit. Good about DD and all that work. Most impressive. smile

Hope Pen's okay. Horrible not to be in first thing. Makes it far worse all that waiting.

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 11:16:32

DS is fine, MAS. I had to fetch him at lunchtime yesterday as he had tummy ache, but no other symptoms, so I don't think it's Noro. He has no temp and is still eating so he's having a fine old time. I would have sent him in if he hadn't been sent home yesterday. Am sure he'll be back tomorrow.

I've only ever seen Howard's End (nearly wrote Howard's way) on film, and then never all the way through, just chunks of it whenever it's repeated (which is/.was often)
Glad ds isn't too bad then grin

Found you all grin

Hope DS is enjoying his day off today smee. Good day for staying at home imo as it is very cold.

kurri well done to DD. It sounds like she is much in demand.

Thinking of you today pen hope you have a speedy recovery.

Just back from walking the dog and really need to do some cleaning but can't be bothered having a coffee first.

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 13:00:10

I like the Howard's end film- one of my faves and best thing Helena Bonham carter in. Not sure my knowledge of film will help.

Smee hope ds feels better soon. Am wondering how long til big gig gets something.

All this talk of crumpets may have to buy some.

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 13:40:38

Howard's End is improving as i progress - I do like Forster normally - but it's a long time since I read any - maybe I need to get back into his 'voice'. Small piece of trivia - one of my school friends was in Howard's End - one of the smaller parts (she was also in East Enders for a while ages ago).

gracie - you are doing well to get your dog out - mine looks out the door and digs her feet into the doormat grin - I've just carried her into the garden for a wee, and then DD had to dry her with a towel when we came back in, - she's now sitting on the sofa wearing a woolly jumper (the dog not DD, - she's wearing an old dressing gown grin)

Its really started coming down heavily again here all my bird food has been covered over. - I might not be able to get to book club at this rate - although I'd like to as we are all going to the pub for A NY lunch.

There's been quite a few nasty viruses ging round in this region - we've escaped so far, but a few friends have had lurgies. Hope DS feels better soon Smee - hopefully no Noro if he hasn't been sick.

MAS - I keep calling it Howard;s Way too grin - I blame Gig grin

topsyturner Tue 15-Jan-13 14:06:02

Someone say crumpets ???
<emerges from blankie/sofa cocoon briefly , growls at meal worms>

Still no snow here <sad face>
HND had the last of her drains removed this morning . No news on when she's getting out yet .
May have to bake cake with file in grin

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 14:06:15

"Discuss the character of ken. Is his love for jan Howard genuine?"

"Why does jack never get any help for his drinking problem?"

"What attracts women to millionaire Edward frere?"

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 14:08:00

Poor hnd- I well remember the break for the border feeling.

Have just scoffed three crumpets.
And kurri that's great about dd.

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 14:54:19

grin at Howards Way exam. Are there pass notes, Gig?

DS has just trashed me at Monopoly. Definitely sending him to school tomorrow.

topsyturner Tue 15-Jan-13 15:06:41

Really really want crumpets now !

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 15:12:43

It's the cold weather- I am sure it hard wires you to want them.

And yes- prof gig does pass notes- this week - the life and loves of abi urquhart

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 15:27:30

Crumpets are good for you. I know, have just had 2 and feel great. grin

I have a pack of crumpets here but I fear I've gone off them-
I must brush up on Howard's Way for the exam....

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 16:36:51

Gig - will there be questions on Abi's bizarre and alarming wardrobe contents? - I could ace them grin

Also -Jan's Boutique - who are the people who are willing to pay huge sums for hideous clothing and are happy to have it stuffed in an old carrier bag when they've paid?

I think I may have muffins in the freezer and a couple of bagels for the trolley (also some menthol cough sweets if anyone is desperately hungry - not me obviously, I would never scoff cough sweets when there's no food about)

NedSchneebly Tue 15-Jan-13 16:42:34

<dashes into new thread, looks around, and holds out hands for crumpets>

Afternoon all smile

Tired today - had personal training session and counselling session back to back this morning, and both were hard work. Cold here - DSs school at the top of a hill, so all being told to park at the bottom and walk up the icerink road to school. . . I came an embarrassing cropper on my way out and ended up on my arse, and the lovely headmaster offered to walk me down the hill back to my car blush

All planning done for tomorrow and I have made a phonics game too smile

MAS thanks for the book, arrived safely this morning. Will make a start tonight if I am not too tired after Choir.

smee glad to hear DS feeling a bit better. Definitely sounds like he could go back tomorrow!

kurri what a clever DD! Sounds like she is carving out quite a niche for herself. And great experience to have a range of things to play for - ensembles, soloists, church. OUr church is quite creepy in the dark - I am with her on that one! You must be super proud of her smile

Good news on HND's drains out. Hopefully she'll be breaking for home soon.

Must get to the bottle bank before dark. Have shitloads a few bottles from Christmas to get rid of.

Laters lovelies smile

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 16:49:33

Oh ned lovely- sounds like you are getting used to it. Can I pick your brains (or otm if she is lurking) on something that I need to help big gig with? I know she is only little ( reception) but need to try to encourage her to concentrate for longer spells alone- she is fine doing stuff with someone but need to try to urge her to try things by herself and then ask for help rather than having someone do something with her. I was thinking more games , puzzles she can do and then show me what she has managed. Any thoughts?

Prof kurri asks some excellent questions. Perhaps we can discuss together polly and Gerald's Sham marriage?grin Or why anyone finds Tom Howard irresistible let alone women 20 years younger?

Right back to my reading for open uni.

Gracie when are your scans - tomorrow?

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 17:27:24

<hurls crumpets at Ned> You sound energised. Did you know today's supposed to be the most depressing day of the year? Slump woman, ffs. grin

I am useless at knowing anything, so will need coaching from Profs Gigs and Kurri. Do you provide snacks?

Topsy any more news on when HND's back?

And yes, Gracie when are your scans? I am still on the box for you and Gig. Sitting there playing board games with DS. I have so far lost at Monopoly, Payday and now Ticket to Ride. He is most definitely going back to school tomorrow. grin

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 17:29:23

Just remembered, I was nattering inanely to DS earlier anxting about whether DH had got to work okay because 'there's lots of ice on the roads'. He thought I said 'mice'. Great image. Just think of the weather maps. grin

NedSchneebly Tue 15-Jan-13 17:40:45

Gig with regard to big gig, I guess its finding things that you know she'll quite happily play with/ can access on her own, Sylvanian families, drawing, a simple puzzle etc and "set her off" on it, so to speak - set up the game with her, play along for a few minutes, start the puzzle off with her etc, and then say "that's brilliant, big gig, can you do the next bit, I am just going to make a drink/ empty the dishwasher and I'll be back in a minute" then go away and leave her for a couple of minutes, lavish lots of praise if she's still focussed when you come back and steadily increase the time.

I know not everyone is a fan of Supernanny, but there's one thing she always tells people to do which I think really works, with DS and in the classroom, and that is to comment really specifically about the positive behaviour and reflect back what you see them do. So instead of "well done, you're playing nicely" be more focussed "well done, aren't you putting the squirrel family in their car beautifully, and now you've put all the meerkats in a line" It sounds false, but it really works, at least it always has for me, with DS and kids that I've taught. You can do it from a distance too, as you walk past, iyswim.

With LittleNed I used to set up something for him to do at the breakfast bar while I was washing up/ making tea whatever, so he was independent but with me at the same time. He didn't cope well if I was just sitting on the sofa, but seemed to accept playing independently if I was busy doing something too. Could you get her a Cbeebies comic or similar, "you can have a look at your big girl comic at the table while I make lunch. . . "

Sorry if that's all a bit patronising, its not meant to be at all. Just a train of thought and some things that worked for me! Hope some of it might be useful x x

NedSchneebly Tue 15-Jan-13 17:46:47

X-post smee energised? I don't know about that, but I do feel like I am making baby steps of progress. Only cried once today in my counselling session - surely that's progress?! My counsellor said that I am too self-critical and too hard on myself, and I have to give myself a bit of a break. . . grin at mice on the road! like this perhaps?

love the mice on the roads ! that could inspire an illustration !
Do you think it's bad to keep looking up mets and life expectancy online ? I think it probably is, but am getting a bit obsessed with it, though I feel very disconnected at the same time- I might be trying to scare myself into feeling something properly. Are lung mets really bad,as opposed to other mets ? Sorry to cast a bit of doom into the thread, but I spend a lot of time looking up stuff,like x ray pictures of lung mets trying to see if they look like mine (from what I remember seeing) I know I should speak to onc or bcn. Sorry- indulgent ramblings.
Am off to do a sample illustration for a poss. job for a Japanese newspaper- it's for a novella written by a writer friend of mine.

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 19:20:06

MAS - I think it's very natural to want to look things up online and find some sort of answers for what has happened to you. Whether it is a good thing to do or not, only you can know - does it frighten or reassure you? - If the former, I would stop, - it's awfully hard for you lovely - wish I was nearer to give you a big hug sad - If I was doing a bit of psychological guessing, I'd say you were looking for some kind of certainties, when your life has been thrown into uncertainty. I don't know if that's true but it's a thought.

yes talk to you onc and bcn, - the thoughts and feelings you are having are I'm sure very natural for someone in your situation.

As for whether lung mets are worse - I don't think so, people are affected differently, and some people live a good amount of time with a good quality of life with mets. I think response to treatment, general health and a bit of luck will all play a part. I know there are people on this forum with various types of metastatic cancer who were given a rather dismal prognosis and are still going strong ten years on. It is a very inexact science as far as I can tell.

But you have every right to feel disconnected, disbelieving, angry and sad - and the professionals will be able to help you. (MacMillan is v. good in my experience, I've talked to a nurse in the past and she was brilliant - she understood exactly where I was coming from. I'm sure you would be able to talk to a Mac Nurse if you wanted too, and thought it would help. XXXX

Ned - well done for getting through your counselling today, it does sound as if you are making good progress, nice of HT to help you down the hill, but not nice to fall shock hope you are OK.

I would like to see mice on the road rather than icegrin we do get toads here (and I mean hundreds covering the road, - DH goes out with buckets and collects them and takes them across the road, but driving is awful - you can't avoid all of them sad)

Special question in the Howard's Way advanced paper, 'Avril Rolfe - does she cut her own hair or share Brian May's hair dresser?' - discuss.

And - which prestigious award did Abi win? (answer the 'Most unemotional reaction to giving up your baby in the history of the world "Oh OK you'd better have him then. I'm off on a protest march.")

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 19:56:22

Ned- that's great advice. She will play well alone at home so I will build on that. I just think the whole school thing is a lot to get used to plus she likes her teacher so responds to the attention.

Mas- I have often gone down the "are my mets worse?" Line of thinking (but never google as ime there is very little on there about my cancer and lets face it nowhere is going to say what I want to hear which is yep you will be ok).

What I do know is kurri is right that there are a lot of people out there with mets who are still going strong years later. You don't tend to hear about them as they are usually too busy living life.
Also like the infertility/mc type stories you tend to see a lot more desperate stories than the good ones as you don't tend to post when things are ok. I know I should go post more on the pregnant loss boards but I don't as am not in that head spAce.

I know my cousin found Specialist therapist helped as I did when she was first dx so maybe Bcn might know someone who could talk you through (or even regular slots with her).

And also it is shit scary and serious so I don't think it is wrong to be upset. Scared and angry about it as well as confused about why.

Kurri- yes abi does win that award. And jan/Tom for quickest recovery from leaving a long marriage in history. Charles frere must have some special designer for his shorts.

Smee- is ds back at school tomorrow?

thanks kk - you are wise as not angry or anything really,that's the problem- I suppose I feel I am not behaving as people normally would. I never cry (the nearest I came to it was when I lost my earring-) I think I displace feelings (when my brother died I didn't allow myself to feel anything- and look where that got me !) The dying thing doesn't frighten me which is odd to me - I think that's why I keep looking, to get a reaction. And people are being so lovely to me and I like the feeling of being looked after which then makes me feel guilty...

Howard's Way End - Leo was such a wet thing- rubbish actor too.

ah,cross posted with you gig - and thanks for your imput too. I do have bcn to talk to I know- I will do that.

PenisColada Tue 15-Jan-13 20:04:37

Was given a big dose if temazepam as I was really nervous, went to sleep then they cancelled the op as previous lady ran into some problems in theatre.
Just slept of the drugs on the sofa. Very dissapointed but reassured by the team and the pre med really helped.

Hope it is not too long to wait for round 2

Gigondas Tue 15-Jan-13 20:14:11

Oh pen angry for you and hardly thing you want to hear when nervous.

Mas- I think all your past experiences(especially your brother) all gets mixed up. You have a real and very big thing to deal with it but it just tends to make your default reaction stronger (for me it's fear of being alone and unsupported and forgotten )
On nice mets story, my lovely cousin got an ok at her latest scan- that will be her 5th year post ovarian dx with a grim prognosis and lots of different stuff. She thinks her art work also helped so I do think being focussed helps so your work is a great thing.

I am offering some very nice wine tonight whilst waitkn

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 20:23:11

Ach Pen, how annoying. Have they given you any idea about when you'll be rescheduled?

Ned, you are doing brilliantly just getting up and functioning, let alone working, getting fit, going to counselling, being a fab mum. Honestly, I know it's hard but it takes time and you'll get there. xx smile

MAS, I think the unknown's the worst part of any cancer, let alone mets. I know I felt much better once I knew full pathology and what the timetable was to being out of treatment, so I'd say the unknown is your worst enemy. Trouble with googling, is if you lined 100 people up with lung mets, they'd all be slightly different. v.hard not to do, but nobody can tell you what's next. Not sure how you get through it, but maybe Kurri or Gig are right and Macmillan or your BCN can help a bit more?

Yes Gig, DS definitely back at school tomorrow. He's totally fine and has eaten the entire contents of the fridge with no mention of tummy ache. smile

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 20:24:42

smile for your cousin, Gig. Nice story and v.timely for you worried about your scan and for MAS too.

yes,that's a great story gig - am v pleased for her. You all speak sense !
Sorry about the cancellation pen- how annoying - hope it doesn't make for more anxiety.
Off to be now - dh says there's heavy snow forecast for Friday,which is my hosp. appointment - the roads from here to there are notoriously awful in bad weather (v twisty and twirly country roads)

smee Tue 15-Jan-13 22:53:39

MAS, like the 'be'. Possibly a warmer place than 'bed'. smile I just watched BBC forecast and it sounds like Friday's the turning point, but weekend's more when the snow might fall, so you might be okay for appt.

KurriKurri Tue 15-Jan-13 23:36:22

Pen - so sorry they cancelled your op - that is very tough, hope they reschedule asap so you are not kept hanging around.

Weather getting steadily worse here - my yoga group lady phoned a while ago to say tomorrows class cancelled. Roads may have cleared a bit through use by Friday though MAS - fingers crossed you'll be able to get to your appointment.

Gig - good to hear about your cousin, - good for her smile

Night night all x

smee grin @ the be- that is Mindfulness- just be,in the present moment.
Am up and it's v chilly...

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 07:35:14

brew? I am lurking in bed for as long as possible. Shoulder aching again (it did get better after massage last week) so hoping painkillers kick in soon. On good news front tho my leg is loads better although more work needed on flexibility - it doesn't ache thoughsmile.

Tis cold here and big gig is desperate for snow .

grr about shoulder gig

KurriKurri Wed 16-Jan-13 09:48:55

Ouch to shoulder Gig - hope it is feeling a bit better after horse pills.

Morning Mas smile

Goodness it is snowy here, have had several 'cancelled' phone calls since about 8 this morning, and DH has decided not to go in to work - he's gone off for a walk in the snow instead grin Even google has a little man in a snow plough!

DD has not emerged form her bed yet - I suspect she has hibernated grin

Right - hot drinks all round(I have tea, green tea, various fruit and herb teas,coffee (caff or decaff)hot chocolate and horlicks), and I will make a vat of porridge and a heap of toast for all <fills trolley>

KurriKurri Wed 16-Jan-13 09:50:50

Oh has anyone been watching winterwatch on BBC2 this week? - some lovely shots of places in Norfolk and some of our wildlife - we have been to that enormous rookery to see the roosting and it is amazing! And the seals of course are gorgeous.

topsyturner Wed 16-Jan-13 09:55:06

No snow here .
Just rain .
<huffs and climbs back into sofa/blanky cocoon>

Pen when I first went in for my mx , I got all the way to being in a hospital gown and then got bumped as my surgeon called in sick !
I feel your pain my love . Here's hoping they get you rescheduled ASAP !

Mas I see secondaries as a long term thing . Something that will need occasional treatment , but not affecting me apart from that .
The best way to see it is as any other life long illness like diabetes etc .
<doesn't stop me googling stats or perching on the paranoia box though>

Any breakfast suggestions ?
I know it's a little late for brekkie , but I don't eat at brekkie time .

topsyturner Wed 16-Jan-13 09:56:25

Hot chocolate please kk
And maybe some porridge , is there any honey to put in it ?

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 10:02:22

I have honey topsy- hot chocolate for me too.

Agree about long term- cousin really had very grim prognosis (wouldn't even say if she would make it to Xmas when dx) but with treatment (ops chemo etc) it has stabilised. My specialist nurse talks in same terms. And you are absolutely right as people forget that if not managed properly you will die from diabetes, asthma , heart conditions etc .

Having said all that I know will need spell on box when it is scan.

Was glued to radio whilst I was being a bed for mini gig (I have my uses- she was curled up with her new toy wol mas) as dh was passing where helicopter crashed on train this Mornjng.

Shoulder easier with drugs- it just needs exercise as it has got out of place after op.

Pen are you ok today?

Kurri- it looks like you have brunt of snow where you are.

KurriKurri Wed 16-Jan-13 10:12:32

hot choc and porridge coming up topsy ( I think there is honey in the cupboard - it may be rather old though). Snow is a nuisance but it is so pretty, and we don't have it very often, so I'm not really complaining.

DH has come back having bought quantities of bird food from the village shop, and has now disappeared to take photos. He'll be looking for a toboggan next grin

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 10:58:11

wont a tea tray do kurri?

there is a fab you know you grew up in the 80s thread in chat that is distracting me from my ou work . In someways its as well I didnt have the net when I was a student first time round.

So jealous of the snow kurri, as topsy says just miserable rain here and mighty cold.

That is annoying pen hopefully they will reschedule soon but rotten to get that far and then sent home.

Hope your shoulder eases gigs. Does a brufen rub so any good? Is your scan this week?

mas my nurse always likes to tell me about her patients who are still going strong 9-10 years after mets dx. They do look at it like a chronic illness.

Surgeon appointment went well last night. I had a mammogram which was all clear grin. Echo this morning was 'hopefully' ok so just MRI to go next week.

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 12:37:00

Painkillers , warmth and massage all help- it was fine for about 4 days after last massage but I slip into bad posture habits so set it off again. Physio again on Friday before my scan so see what that says.

That is great that mammo all clear- and it's good are being so thorough with MRI although they are uncomfy .

well done gracie smile

smee Wed 16-Jan-13 14:13:59

Yay for you, Gracie. I will sit on paranoia box until MRI, but still that must be a huge relief. smile

That notion of mets being chronic makes sense. V.hard to accept that 100% of the time am sure, but maybe as you learn more about your own situation, and see that the treatment's working it gets easier to do?

Gig, where was the crash? Just heard it on the news, but it said 'central London' and nothing else. Did DH see it? shock Glad to hear leg's better, but ouchy arm sounds grim.

Pen, how are you today? Any news on new date for op? Really hope it's soon.

Kurri, if DH goes as far as a toboggan, you should go too. I love sledging.
No snow here. B'ah.. but looking promising for weekend. Little Smee v.excited. smile

PenisColada Wed 16-Jan-13 14:41:36

I am ok today thanks. I was in gown knocked out on the pre med when the sent Dr Twelveyearold to tell me it could not be done today.

Admissions rang this morning and it is now scheduled for thurs next week so not too long to wait. I have years of housework to catch up on so am are I will keep busy.

AtoZandbackagain Wed 16-Jan-13 15:51:31

Aw Pen - that's terrible when you were all prepared for it.

That happened to me years ago - cancelled my gall bladder removal having got me all gowned up for theatre. The rules are that if They cancel for non-clinical reasons they must offer you appointment within 2 weeks or you can chose to have the operation/treatment done at any hospital of your choice (including privately). If you google the key words you can find the NHS document about it.

I was taken to hospital by ambulance on Saturday morning after a night of dry-retching and vomming (TMI). Ambulance crew and admitting nurse told me I looked 'really dreadful '. Had 4 days in there on continuous IV fluid and anti-ems. Now at home. Still not feeling 100% at all - very shaky and gaseous which triggers the vomming. Have different set of anti-ems.

Nice Dr said that my chemo is probably the worst one for nausea side-effects but even so they shouldn't be that bad.

Now very worried about next 3 cycles although they assure me they will review the chemo and maybe adjust. At the moment I just feel chemically plugged at both ends.

poor you AtoZ spounds sure they will adjust your dose- I have had mine changed twice already because of side effects...hope you feel less plugged soon.
pen that's good that you haven't too long to wait. The pre-med sounds a good idea for next time ?
Am drawing things for Mr gig (men ski ing !) and waiting until it's piano lesson time for the boy. I get to read my book while he plays (first volume of The Cazalets - Elizabeth Jane Howard- all the volumes posted to me by a friend in Birmingham- very kind of her- absolutely love it so far)

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 16:31:05

Atoz that's awful but agree they should tweak dose cos as mas knows. And I know prolonged spell in hospital doesn't help.

Smee- was by vauxhall - dh didn't see it but I have been past on train today and you can see wreckage and also how very near it was too railway/houses etc.

I loved the cazalets when I read it. Strictly there should be a picture of dh falling over and then self medicating with beer as that seems to be what happens when he skis with that lot.

smee Wed 16-Jan-13 16:47:37

Oh my, AtoZ, that does sound grim. I had awful nausea/ vomiting and nothing much worked until they reduced the dose. They guess the amount of whichever drugs they to give you based on a pretty crude height/ weight ratio and a lot of us have had doses of drugs reduced so we can tolerate them, so don't despair. Keep tucked up warm xx

Gig, phew that's good he didn't see it and wasn't there. Sounds v.scarily like a far bigger disaster could have happened. Awful. sad

MAS, are you still doing a lot better this time round? Hope you are. x

Pen, next Thurs isn't so long away, but still must feel like ages. What a pain. I have housework you could do if you need things to fill the time. shock

this last cycle was a breeze ! take heart AtoZ though I do think capecitabine is easier going than most chemo drugs, which is good as some people are on it continuously.
Piano done and so I guess i must return to ski ing men- Mr gig didn't ask for a picture of himself fallingover skiing - it all sounds very jolly and I have learned about tequila infused beer.

KurriKurri Wed 16-Jan-13 18:49:41

gracie - great that mammo was clear smile

pen - next thursday not too long to wait (I know it probably feels like ages to you though), - at least they got back to you quickly.

AtoZ - sorry you had to go in to hospital, hope they manage to tweak your dose so you are not hit so hard the next time, hope you feel a little better soon, that shaky sick feeling is horrid sad

Gig - thank goodness your DH didn't have to see that awful accident, - but as you say Smee, - it could well have been even worse.

MAS - Cazalets is good, you will enjoy it smile

Smee - I'll encourage the snow to go your way for Master Smee to enjoy grin

I've just finished Howard's End, and I enjoyed it despite feeling very annoyed with lots of the characters.

invicta Wed 16-Jan-13 19:28:27

Pen - sorry to hear about your rescheduled appointment.

I loved Howards Way, and got very excited once when I saw Barracuda in a boat yard in Lymington several years ago. I always thought that Charles De Frere was a bit creepy.

Mice on the road - brill!

I've never had honey and hot chocolate but Baileys in hot chocolate is delicious.

amberlight Wed 16-Jan-13 21:36:36

marking my place... smile

topsyturner Wed 16-Jan-13 21:37:26

AtoZ ask them for a syringe driver next time .
It's a small pump that continuously feeds you anti sickness drugs .
I had one for 5 days with every dose of chemo and it was a life saver !

That helicopter crash this morning was awful .
BBC news were interviewing an eye witness on the phone , and the poor guy was almost crying .
And you can tell that all the bastard presenter wanted to know was "did you see any dead bodies" hmm

Just back from visiting HND in hospital .
Am beginning to think she likes it in there grin
She's now having to have her boob aspirated due to it sloshing about like a hot water bottle .
And she's also got to be nil by mouth from midnight as they might have to take her back into surgery to do the same on her back !!!

Gracie yippee for clear mammo , what's next for you ?

Gigs when do you have/get results for your scan ?

Snow forecast for here on Friday .
I'm secretly quite happy that we are getting some , but that's because I don't need to leave the house and can sit infront of a roaring fire watching out of my window ! grin

topsyturner Wed 16-Jan-13 21:39:06

Honey was for the porridge Invictor not the hot choccie , that would be all kinds of wrong grin

<waves like loon at Amber >

Gigondas Wed 16-Jan-13 21:49:46

Poor hnd- it's a bugger when you won't drain. Are they going to insert a Hoover thingy in to help if necessary or just clean her up? I had to have clean up but worked a treat.

Scan is Friday lunchtime and see onc on Tuesday lunch. Am doing ok about it if I don't think about it too much.

smee Wed 16-Jan-13 22:24:45

Oh no, poor HND. Bugger about the not draining. Hope they sort her soon. sad

Gig, am on the box for you. Useless I know, but am thinking of you. xx

I like snow so long as it lasts a day only and I can a) have a snowball fight, b) go sledging, then c) curl up and watch our road as a winter wonderland. After that it's sludgly annoying and I want rid of it. But yes, please send your snow Kurri. Me and DS need it. Will send westwards to Topsy when we're done. smile

grr about non-draining hnd
Bloods today and hoping the snow doesn't prove to be too pesky here- a bit would be nice though.

Copthallresident Thu 17-Jan-13 09:58:35

A to Z Sorry you ended up in hospital. It is miserable and scary, especially when days before you were entirely healthy. I felt quite resentful towards my "poisoner". However as smee says the dosage is very crude, and it is entirely normal for them to reduce it when they realise how it affects your body. My dosage was reduced at every one of the six cycles, and the treatments delayed to let my body recover properly. On the plus side the mega dose will have started the treatment with a good blast and you got a ride in an ambulance...

Poor hnd, I had problems with fluid (Sonoma? Just googled, not Sonoma, that is nice place in California , Seroma is fluid.... ) had to keep having it drained, but not a hoover, a HUGE great syringe, a GA would have been a fine thing, also so I didn't have to put up with the doctor that kept having to do it. (It was my first encounter with that sub group of doctors who react, annoyed and put out, as if you have done it deliberately ......wonky oncy was like that too, would tell you off for low blood counts as if you were a naughty schoolgirl and it had nothing to do with the poison. So probably Topsy you should go in and tell hnd off wink, that will sort her out )

MAS I do know what you mean about not feeling. Ever since Cancer I have reacted to any sort of trauma that way, it is probably your sub conscious protecting you, though I also think there is something of once you have learnt the hard way that life can be shit then it comes as no shock when it is IYSWIM. However I think that going on Dr Google may be a bit like picking a scab, better to talk to BCN who will doubtless tell of all the people who are living with mets for years. There are certainly plenty being treated at The Marsden.

gigs DH must have gone through Vauxhall 20 minutes before the helicopter accident. At least the mobile network didn't go down. On 7/11 I couldn't get through to him until lunchtime.

How is the studying? Are you enjoying it? Just reading can be hard to get down to but once you have a purpose and a deadline then it helps you focus especially if you have procrastinated so long that there are not enough hours in the day to meet it. Procrastination is a recognised condition now, we have very touchy feely hippy commune department that offers lots of support crystals, yoga, woo to procrastinators and the stressed. They even have procrastinators anonymous courses but I have not yet felt able to stand up and say "my name is ---- and I am a procrastinator" I am sure OU will have similar

Better get on blush but thinking of everyone with tests, scans etc. Moves considerable rump on to paranoia box, now NOTHING can escape.

topsyturner Thu 17-Jan-13 14:10:14

Just watched last nights One Born Every Minute <guilty secret>
And they showed a clip of next weeks episode .
Midwife : so where are you from ?
Patient : Peru
Midwife : is that where Paddington Bear is from ?

.................... gringringrin

Gigondas Thu 17-Jan-13 14:33:31

If that's your worst viewing you have some way to go- I am proud to say I loved a series on sky called Britains roughest pubs.

Not that this post falls under procrastination copthall (yes it is slow getting back into the reading and learning how to organise myself but am
Enjoying it).

smee Thu 17-Jan-13 15:00:20

There was a surprisingly fab documentary on last week about parking fines. grin

How are you, Gig? Keeping busy? And you too, Gracie. Scattering the remains of Christmas cake on trolley to distract you both from scans.

AtoZ how are you today? Feeling any better yet? Hope you are.

Topsy, any news on HND? Did she have to have op to clear fluid?

Hope bloods weren't gruesome, MAS. What did they say about potentially missing Onc appt due to weather? Is there a plan B?

Have just had my bone density scan. Was completely fine about it until dimwit clicked that it's imaging, so starting anxting about them spotting something. Bloody hell, it never ends does it? Anyways, still excited by idea of snow, so will concentrate on that. Have you sent it yet, Kurri? <drums fingers impatiently> smile

Copthallresident Thu 17-Jan-13 15:07:45

I am addicted to One born every minute. DD thinks it is very sad, "wasn't it bad enough having to do it twice?" as I weep copiously Was very disappointed my lovely niece refused to be filmed when nursing one of the babies they filmed in the neo natal ward, the nurse they filmed was an imposter!! That particular midwife who they seem to be focusing on this series nothing to do with her being blonde, sweet and pretty I am sure has come out with some corkers but my favourite was the man who couldn't work out that the big red button with emergency written on it was the one to press when they needed the midwife as wife was in distress, and kept pressing the buttons that changed the ambience of the lighting......

Not procrastinating either gigs , oh no.

Copthallresident Thu 17-Jan-13 15:35:49

smee Dr Geek said that all they can read from dexa scans is bone density, so Osteporosis, Vitamin D deficiency in children, so that is all you can get paranoid about really. It measures the rate at which a small amount of radiation, much less than an X ray, less even than you would get on a long haul flight, travels through the bone and you get a measure of bone density in your back and hips in relation to the average .

You need the proper bone scan to investigate for mets, when they inject you with a radioactive material which picks up any bone building hotspots, in response to Cancer, trauma etc. It even picked up that my sacro iliac joint was traumatised by giving birth to DD2 (10.5 pounds shock).

we watched OBEM too- I liked the Latvian girl - that blonde midwife's voice would seriously grate,I must say.
smee no idea about what to do if it's too snowy- dh has written me a stern email saying that there's no way he'll let me go if he thinks it's too dangerous (he wrote it in caps) Kind friend who has a 4x4 has offered to take me, but she lives over beyond B/stoke which would mean her coming and going twice over. Am just hoping that it's ok for me to go and then it can snow as much as it likes when I'm home.

smee Thu 17-Jan-13 17:34:33

Ah, thanks Copthall. I am a ninny. I had a full bone scan last year during another bout of paranoia and it was all clear, so phew for that. smile

MAS, what time's the appointment? If morning you could well be fine as snow's more likely after lunch apparently. Don't risk getting stuck though. DH is right to be so capitally assertive. grin

smee Thu 17-Jan-13 17:35:40

Copthall shock at 10.5 pounds. I'd bet the sacro iliac wasn't the only part of you that traumatised..

NedSchneebly Thu 17-Jan-13 18:02:11

Evening all smile Am knackered after full day at school. Am hoping it will start getting easier at some point. . .

Bloody chilly here - heavy snow forecast for all day tomorrow, so unlikely that I will be venturing out to work. Might get out OK, but sure as hell wouldn't get back! Might possibly be hoping that DSs school shut and we can have a quiet, snuggly one on the sofa. . .

shock at 10.5lb copthall *smee is right about your traumatised bits. . . I managed to press that red emergency button when I was in labour with DS. It wasn't an emergency at all, but no-one had shown me the smaller "call" button next to it blush It was very dramatic, many staff ran in from all directions, and all I wanted was more batteries for my TENS machine. .

smee perching my ample arse on the paranoia box for you, lovely. I remember you had the clear bone scan last year. That's what you need to hang on to, right? Is Dexa scan in preparation for moving you off Tamoxifen? How long must you wait to find out?

MAS don't risk snow, my love, you don't want to come a cropper in the wild Hampshire lanes. . . I see T's school is "partially shut" (on Heart FM website) Is he affected? I have always thought its a bit mean to give some the day off but not all. Picture arrived today - it is awesome and perfect! Seeing the recipient on Tuesday, so safe to post on FB then! Will send cheque post haste. . .

Hope everyone is OK today and staying warm.

Love you all lots x x x x

appointment at 11, so that might be ok- snowing here now, but not very heavily...T over joyed...
He has to go in for a GCSE History exam,no matter what, but I guess can come home afterwards.
Waves to ned - glad picture is safely with you ! Hope you can relax this evening after a full day smile

Copthallresident Thu 17-Jan-13 19:04:17

Actually smee Ned No I can't say I even noticed the trauma to my sacro illiac joint , it was very quick and would have made a good One Born Every Minute. I ended up being wheeled to the delivery room kneeling up in the chair, because I refused to sit down, understandably I think what with what was going on down below, slumped over the back screaming, with the midwife running along with her head between me and the porter maintaining eye contact and shouting "DON'T PUSH" at me, and another running along in front (to catch if I did?). I screamed, swore and made lots of terrible noises and when I apologised after the midwife said "Don't worry quick births are always like that. I had a nice lawyer the other week that bit me, she was very apologetic after" shock

smee Hopefully you will pass the dexa with flying colours and get letrazole and not be a failure and a sad disappointment to the doctors like me, yet again!!

MAS I managed not to cry during last nights OBEM, until the Latvian girls' lovely Mum arrived on the megabus....

Ned Teaching is so very tiring, it is very physical, take care of yourself.

DDs school psyching themselves up for a snowday I reckon, lots of "In the event" "for health and safety reasons" emails and texts. I come over all northern at these snowdays, having grown up in a village only exited via a 1 in 4 hill, and we NEVER had snow days. Dad would rally and slip, slide and skid up and down those hills no matter what. MAS DON'T TRY IT (uses DH's shouty capitals) Hopefully it won't start until you are back and tucked up and can look out on it as romantic scene , rather than a health and safety hazard.

Copthallresident Thu 17-Jan-13 19:09:51

ps Obviously by come over all northern I mean <turns into Monty Python "You were Lucky" northerner> Off to warm up with some Chateau de Chasillez.

Gigondas Thu 17-Jan-13 19:28:02

Did you get one of those emails too!? I am just hoping that doesn't bugger my hospital trip either mas - not that I expect a lot of snow early but sw trains have got their excuses in already smilehmm

Ouch at the birth stories - I was profoundly uncomfortable with mini gig this time last year.

I remember asking the midwife to make my bed into a chair (apparently it could be adjusted to this effect) but she was hopeless at it, plus she wanted my fan turned off as she had a cold (and I was boiling hot as it was midsummer and baking) The best bit about the birth was having the company of a fabulous medical student who held my hand and was wonderful- we are still in touch -she's now a GP in Leeds.

I'll be sensible copt Dh will hide my car keys....

smee Thu 17-Jan-13 20:24:01

Gig, what time do you have to be there tomorrow? I think snow's due to hit London mid morning, so you might be okay if it's an early scan? Will be thinking of you xx

MAS, definitely don't risk the roads if there's any doubt. Am sure it's annoying, but we can't have you stuck in a car. We'll have to come out with tartan rugs and fbs to find you.

Ned, hugely well done to manage a day's teaching. Am wishing you snow tomorrow so you can curl up and rest. I am not really all that worried about bone density scan. I think it was more that I was in the same place that I had to go to for first bone scan nearly 3 years ago now. Brought it all back to me.

On birth, have to say biting lawyers sounds about right. Love the Porter shouting 'Don't Push' at you, Copthall and MAS how lovely that you're still in touch with that doctor. Denzil Washington forceped mini Smee out. Genuinely he was a serious look-alike, utterly gorgeous and there was me with my legs in stirrups after 48 hours in labour. shock

thinking of gig - sending lots of love. Am having porrige for breakfast.

NedSchneebly Fri 18-Jan-13 07:38:05

Happy Snow Morning smile

Mine and DSs school shut today, so don't have to feel guilty about not struggling in to work. DS got a bit of a cough anyway, so quiet TV day planned, with possibly a short-lived foray into the back garden at some point, just so we can say that we have built a snowman!

MAS PLEASE GO CAREFULLY (DHs capitals) if you venture out today. Will worry about you til we know you're safely home x x

That goes for anyone else venturing out this morning - hope lots of DCs schools shut so we don't have to risk ourselves out in the snow

Stay warm lovelies x x x x

Gigondas Fri 18-Jan-13 07:38:14

It's at lunchtime but got physio and therapy first so going in early. So far no snow here.
Keep candles lit, fingers crossed for me

NedSchneebly Fri 18-Jan-13 07:39:13

Posted without wishing gorgeous gig all the very best for this morning - got everything crossed for you x x x

Gigondas Fri 18-Jan-13 07:47:26

Thanks ned-you got a snow day? And how you feeling?

Got the lance Armstrong interview to distract me- am big cycling fan so iinterested (and not that surprised about all this).

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 07:49:30

Best positive thoughts to you today Gigs

Mas you be very careful if you are out on those roads .
And tell T I am sending him good luck vibes for his exam today .

No snow here yet , but it's on it's way apparently . Amber weather warning .

I am planning to stop my sofa from flying away today , but planting my substantial rear on it grin

Those crumpets still haven't arrived ...

I never cared for Lance Armstrong- read one of his books and thought how up his own arse he was. And not very nice.
T's school is still open so he is disappointed about not coming home after exam..he is willing it to blizzard. So far a sprinkling so roads should be fine going-will keep an eye out for return journey.
Happy cosy snow days for those without school grin

NedSchneebly Fri 18-Jan-13 08:01:15

Thanks gig yes, snow day here for me and DS smile I think I am OK, tired, but pleased to be back at work. My therapist says that I am too self critical and that I need to challenge that part of my personality. He said what did I see when I looked in the mirror and I said "fat" (which is the truth) so we are talking a bit about self image etc. I said to him that I didn't want to be the person I was last year, with the whole cancer "identity", but he said I couldn't get rid of that person entirely, that I had to use the experience of 2012 to shape the new person that I want to be now. Makes sense in theory, but its a bit harder to do in practice! He's a very lovely man (if ever so slightly camp!) and I know that it is helping talking to him, even if the sessions are hard work and draining. I am less weepy from day to day, so I guess that's progress. . . Sorry, that was a bit of a waffle!

Got bagels here topsy if that would do as a substitute?

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 08:13:05

Depends Ned , what flavour ?
<fussy> grin

Copthallresident Fri 18-Jan-13 08:14:09

DDs school open and her train running and there isn't even a frost confused. Everything crossed for gigs, doesn't look as if even South West Trains can plead adverse weather, though of course they may get out and dust off their "wallaby on the line at Chessington" excuse.

Lances book was given to me by about 5 people when I was diagnosed, all very inspirational it seemed hmm

Hope it is all clear for Mas too.

I am seriously looking forward to walking goon dog in a blizzard, it will make a change, and scare off the nasty posh couple with the evil fat black lab of the Baskervilles that roam Hampton Court Park and bully goon dog and I ....Wonder if I can get goon dog to carry a flask of brandy.

NedSchneebly Fri 18-Jan-13 08:52:45

Topsy I can do raisin and cinnamon or plain with sesame seeds on . Can do with real butter too?

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 09:12:28

Hmm , sesame I think .
Lashings of real butter please .

Copthall snow is pig/dogs very favourite weather .
He has a harness that he wears on walkies , and I think a flask could be clipped to it ... grin

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 09:12:47

Still raining ... hmm

quick pop on as after changing internet to by in November and not going unlimited we have gone WELL over our allowance and can't get changed to unlimited until next week, grr.

Just want to wish gigs and mas good luck today and anybody else who needs it.

sigh - am not going as it's really snowing here and dh went ballistic because I was attempting to go. Made appointment for next week - they said several people had cancelled anyway.
T will be cheered by school closing @ 12

smee Fri 18-Jan-13 11:34:01

Sesame, butter and honey for me please, Ned. smile

Glad to hear your stern DH made you not risk it, MAS. Snow here, but it's really only just getting started. DS at school, he'll be so excited. Will have to go dust the cobwebs off the sledge. Will definitely need brandy for when we venture out. grin

Candles lit for Gig. Thinking of you xx

Hope it was all ok gig xxx

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 15:14:01

I think the end if the world is coming
My sky signal has failed
Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!!!!!
<runs around panicking>

Gigondas Fri 18-Jan-13 15:56:11

Scan ok- my lovely dad came and kept me company so we had a late lunch afterwards. Physio brutal tho smile

No sky!! sadshock

Just got to keep fingers crossed now for results .

Now the small matter of mini gigs birthday tomorrow ..

Well done gig smile and grrrr about sky topsy sad

KurriKurri Fri 18-Jan-13 16:21:37

Afternoon all smile

Just reading all your posts. We have had more snow here = DH couldn't get into work today, the roads are really icy - no gritters out here in the sticks it seemshmm We had a power cut last night, or rather a semi power cut - massive drop in voltage and lights, kettle etc all went off, but we had TV initially, then that went too - just as they were doing an item on the New forest on Winterwatch - grr. My computer was not amused at the power messing around and is now very hard to start up and making a noise like a dolphin (clack clack clack!)

Glad the scan went OK Gig and nice that your Dad could come with you.

Hope everyone is well and keeping warm, love Kate x

KurriKurri Fri 18-Jan-13 16:22:36

Oh FFS - thought I was sending an e-mail there - ignore my complete senility!

aww grin !

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 20:27:18

Hahahahahaha kk
<losing it>

Sky back .
Phew .
We won't have to sit around talking to each other all evening ...

Snowing lots here .
Took poor DH almost 3 hours to get home from work this evening . Normally takes 1/2 hour !

Power keeps flickering too .
<looks around nervously for candles>

Copthallresident Fri 18-Jan-13 21:37:57

KK grin

Topsy (on proper computer that isn't convinced you are a dipsomaniac) did pig dog get his snowday? Goondog also really loves snow, it was like Narnia this aft, very uplifting, even if no brandy as Goondog refused to do a St Bernard impersonation sad (I wasn't going to push it, am a bit phobic about St Bernards after looked after one that was a baby substitute for friends on their honeymoon and it died of a heart attack on Day 2, couldn't wreck honeymoon but then couldn't leave 13 stone of dead dog til their return, ended up throwing a "dig a hole for the huge dog" party in their back garden. I know blush It was good black humour training though...

DD out for the evening so a while before all safe home <worried>

love, ha! not telling wink

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 22:14:09

Topsy is stone cold sober tonight unfortunately

Pig/dog did enjoy his snow day thank you . He had a good snuffle about on his walk this evening .
He then sulked for over an hour as he was shut in the kitchen (where he has a bed , 2 mats , and a chair of his own) to dry off grin

topsyturner Fri 18-Jan-13 22:14:44

Lolling about the St Bernard though gringringrin

KurriKurri Fri 18-Jan-13 22:43:35

Shouldn't laugh at dead St Bernard, - but I am grin

I posted just after answering some e-mails - seriously I am losing it grin - <no room in brain for more than one task emoticon>

Old lady dog isn't keen on snow - she did a wee on the doorstep - that was as far outside as she was prepared to go, so now I am carrying her out into the garden!

DD is supposed to go about 40 miles tomorrow night to play for her opera singer, - but I think there's a good chance of cancellation, which will be a shame because it was a well paid gig. She's also had to cancel her teaching tomorrow as roads too bad - so she's not best pleased.

Hope your Dd is home soon Copt.

Copthallresident Fri 18-Jan-13 23:42:24

DD home smile Hope everyone else all home and snug .
Love......still not telling wink

smee Sat 19-Jan-13 00:12:24

grin at St Bernard. You know you're amongst friends when we all laugh at such things.

Kurri, if you've lost it well I speak your language. I am peculiar atm. Put the kettle on the top of the hob to make rice earlier. Just realised as I lit the gas. shock

Glad you're home safe, Gig. Hope mini-Gig's birthday is wondrous tomorrow, though I know it's fraught with memories of last year, so take care of yourself and heft yourself over here if you need hugs of understanding. x

Glad DD home safe, Copt. Mighty glad Topsy's got her Sky back too as couldn't bear the strop if she didn't.

Night all. zzz <with a bit of luck> hmm

jchocchip Sat 19-Jan-13 07:36:57

Morning all - tried to post last night and ended up not being able to see the thread! Found you again now, so I'll put a brew on and wish minigig the best birthday.
Off for a run in the snow, think I'll take a sledge too...

happy first birthday to mini gig !!
The St Bernard burial v funny (poor dog)
Glad dd is safely home copt
Message from senior bcn asking if Icould do a picture of all 3 of them to hang in the breast unit !!! (I did her birthday card) awww.
Dh and T (mostly dh) built a snowman in the garden in the twilight -the snow so bright they could see everything as it got darker- we didn't need torches to guide us over the garden to mum and dad's for our traditional Friday drinks grin

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 10:40:45

Happy 1st Birthday Mini Gig
Have a fabulous day !

Copthallresident Sat 19-Jan-13 11:47:12

Happy birthday to mini gig!

Hope hnd and atoz are on the mend

NedSchneebly Sat 19-Jan-13 13:12:56

Happy Birthday to minigig Can't believe its a whole year! Sending you lots of love x x x x

amberlight Sat 19-Jan-13 17:34:47

Ooo happy birthday, miniGig!

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 18:35:40

Glass of wine anyone ?
Fires lit .
Dinners cooked .
Just waiting for DH and the DC to get back from mass .

Might be tmi , but I've got a dodgy dodgy tum .
Nearly got caught short in Tesco this afternoon .
Now that's a thread I wouldn't want to write ........ gringringrin

invicta Sat 19-Jan-13 18:36:44

Happy birthday mini gig.

KurriKurri Sat 19-Jan-13 18:49:21

Happy Birthday minigig smile xx

I'll have a wine please topsy (hope the runs are better, - pity you didn't have a mishap in Tesco, you could have blamed it on the horse burgers and claimed compensation grin)

BCN picture is a lovely idea MAS, how nice smile

DD has gone off to her opera singer thing tonight - roads are a bit better, - there wasn't any more snow overnight - but I'll be glad when she's back home. She has to get up to play church organ for 9 a.m tomorrow, - so hope she's not too late home.

love to all x

Copt - since you won't tell I am guessing your name is Lavender or possibly Gladys. <massive apologies if it actually is either of those - they are lovely names grin)>

KurriKurri Sat 19-Jan-13 18:54:00

Smee - glad I am not the only one losing the plot. grin

There is a very sad pheasant in our garden - he has a huge clump of compacted snow attached to his undercarriage - like a big snowball, - he keeps kicking at it, but it's stuck fast - I tried to catch him so I could break it off, but didn't manage it (I am not as fast as a snow encrusted pheasant apparently), so I've just put loads of food out, in the hope that at least he'll be able to eat, until it melts off him.

Gigondas Sat 19-Jan-13 19:22:59

Thanks all-
Mini gig had a lovely day (tho still doesn't like cake). Enjoyed a trip in the snow too. I felt ok after having a real wobble last night. But think I may be coming down with something as came over very sick and feverish at dinner time. Now lieing in bed with an assortment of cold drinks to sip-
Chemo does have some benefits about knowing helpful nausea tricks.

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 20:10:34

Uh oh Gigs , you joining me on the poorly couch ?
I actually feel fine , just my bottom disagrees with me ... grin

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 20:12:35

Poor pheasant kk
But finding very amusing , the thought of you chasing him around the garden grin

Are we guessing Cops real name ? I missed that . What are our clues ?
I think Lavinia Trumpington-Smythe

poor gig and topsy - feel better soon both of you.
Aww,poor pheasant grin
Really exhausted today which is weird as no drugs-we trudged to town and that seemed a bit of an effort. Am wrestling with a wedding picture for someone in Arizona - am trying to simplify all the ideas into something that works !
Hope dd is home safely kk

Copthallresident Sat 19-Jan-13 22:29:00

Good grief Topsy I am NORTHERN!! but not Lavendar or Gladys, or Doris . Though I did have an Auntie Doris, she was lovely. This could be a good game, as a clue mother thought she had christened me something unique and chic and then a few years later every girl on the Council estate had the same name (not Chardonnay, this was the 60s...), we all bonded at Guides. She made a similar
mistake with Andrew for my bother, just ahead of the Queen! Then I picked a name for DD1 that was nowhere on the lists and rose to No 1 in a year, after my childhood choices of Emily (Heathcliff!) and Eleanor (Lion in Winter) had met a similar fate.

However I always think pheasants have names like Lavinia or Jemima, they have that air of the thick rich. Strutting around with that air of complete bafflement, yah, rah, ah! Can just imagine Jeeves with snow on his undercarriage......

Hope all bottoms and undercarriages good by morning

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 23:01:24

Hmmm , northern and named in the 60s ???
Sharon ???

I named DS after his grandfather , and it seems to be ridiculously popular now .
And DDs name , at the time , seemed lovely and individual . Without being weird . And seems now to be one of the major chav (ducks and hides) names of choice hmm

My name ? I have no idea why my parents decided on it .
And unfortunately they are no longer around for me to ask them why ???

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 23:03:03

Copt I imagine sharon yelled with a thick brummy accent !
<disclaimer- have drunk a whole bottle if wine and may no longer be considered to have a valid opinion on anything>

topsyturner Sat 19-Jan-13 23:04:05

Also giggling at naming pheasants
Maybe Rupert or Xavier ???

jchocchip Sun 20-Jan-13 06:01:47

Aw poor pheasant. I work with a northern Sharon who has a tendency to shortern names. think shaz, kaz (for karen) I'm midlands and named in the 60s - at school we had lots of variations of Susan..

NedSchneebly Sun 20-Jan-13 07:32:27

Morning all smile

Happy birthday to my gorgeous DH smile Went out last night to new Carluccio's Italian restaurant opened locally. 'Twas lovely.

I named DS after his two paternal grandfathers (first name and middle name) good "solid" traditional names. . . but also two of the engines from "Thomas the Tank Engine". . . Unfortunately he never got that excited about the characters at all!

topsy hope the bottom is better this morning. Just a bug do you think, or something you drank ate? Take it easy and eat fbs to replenish yourself.

gig you feeling any better today? Sorry you had a wobble. Thinking of you x x x

MAS I find walking in the snow hard work, so maybe you just wore yourself out. Take it easy today and don't work too hard x x x

kurri hope DD had a lovely time and got home safely. Such a great experience for her! What news on Rupert the pheasant?

jchoc park run in the snow? Really?? You is hard as nails, woman grin

waves to smee, copthall, gracie, invicta, pen, AtoZ, greylady and anyone else around this morning.

Loads of love to sometimes and sparkle if you're lurking. Hope all is well.

Better go and encourage DS to write in DH's card before DH gets up.

love you all - stay warm x x x

happy birthday to Mr ned ! have a lovely day !
I was called my name because it wouldn't matter if I was plain- they were thinking of a Persian name as I was born in Tehran (Shirin -meaning sweet)
I called T his name because I just liked it- there were hardly any Theo's around then and it was a good combination of slightly edgy and cool and unusual. The northern rellies said you could tell we lived in the fancy south.
My middle name is a variation on Mary as most Catholic girls have that somewhere and it's my mum's middle name. T's second name is my brother's.
Am going to ponder on copt's name....

topsyturner Sun 20-Jan-13 10:30:32

Never , ever , let me drink again !

Happy happy birthday Mr Ned
Carluccios ?
Not jealous , no not me , not in the slightest .....

In the cold harsh sober light of day , I think Copt is called Sarah Louise

Right , need to drink another vat of coffee and get ready to go to Granny's .
Later Gators x

smee Sun 20-Jan-13 11:53:12

Carluccios and we weren't invited?! shock Though I know it's because Topsy would have disgraced us all... Happy Birthday to Mr Ned. Hope you have a lovely

Copt are you a Tracey? There were a few when I was little. I don't mind my name. It's not v.exciting, but it's universally dull, so that's okay by me. hates to stand out Lots of faffing when we named DS, but we went for traditional name which could be shortened if he wanted it to be. All v.sensible.

Hope Rupert's undercarriage is thawed. grin

Off out in the snow now. We have enough to sledge now too. Yay!! smile

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 12:05:19

Wrong again! Though close in that DD2 is Sarah, named after my best friend and an Auntie, (after DH and I argued over names for two weeks since breakneck birth left me with no negotiating power, rather sweetly DD1 still thinks she named her after we sort of manipulated it so she thought she had , as in "if it wasn't for me those two would never have got their act together to give you a name" blush) so basically everyone in family is Sarah but me!

Puts fat coke on trolley for Topsy again wink

Sharon not bad, everyone on Council estate in village who did not have my name was our Sharon, or our Denise. But brummie , north? Deep South more like!

Perhaps another clue, it became popular after two films came out , and no I am not Pussy or Ursula...

Happy Birthday Mr Ned wasn't that a horse? (Just googled, it was Mr Ed I was thinking of but there is indeed a racehorse named after Mr Ned!) Carluccios ? envy

How is hnd has the floating boob stuck down yet?

Snowing hard here, looking forward to blizzard walk, though not talking to goon dog as he has dug up my flower beds tunnelling under the fence, next we will catch him revving his motorbike as he rides up and down looking for best place to jump (my name isn't Steve either) He seems to be having a mid life crisis, tunnelling, stealing food off table , growling at evil fat black lab of the baskervilles , gelling his hair.....

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 12:06:39

Not Tracey either! smee

invicta Sun 20-Jan-13 12:28:39

Hayley - after Hayley Mills?

Honey ?

sandripples Sun 20-Jan-13 13:19:59

Linda? I admit I'm a bit older but I'm Northern and had 3 Linda's in my primary school class.

Hmm, Kathleen, Jane, Marion, Joyce, Elaine, Judith, Shirley (going through my primary school register now! Quite good as brain gym perhaps?)

sandripples Sun 20-Jan-13 13:22:09

Julie? (sound of music)

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 13:40:44

Ha! The umbrella with a parrot on the end goes to sandripples . It is of course pronounced Jooleh where I come from. thanks

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 13:41:29

Dusts off her wimple and heads for the hills...

smee Sun 20-Jan-13 13:41:36

Deborah? Helen? I'm Julie, after Julie Christie. Who obviously I'm a dead ringer for. wink

v.excited as just found forgotten remains of DS's selection box from Christmas, so have just scoffed a Freddo Frog. mmm...

Had huge snowball fight in our road with neighbours, off sledging in a bit. I will want it all to melt by tomorrow, but for now it's

smee Sun 20-Jan-13 13:42:29

Boo! I missed that SR won the prize.

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 13:43:17

smee snap, especially the dead ringer for Julie Christie bit!

smee Sun 20-Jan-13 13:46:09

Waving to twin. grin

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 14:17:03

Triplets, with Julie C!

sandripples Sun 20-Jan-13 16:16:48

I'm delighted with my new umbrella - thank-you very much! have always wanted one with a parrot on the end.

The hills are alive........dadadadadadaaada

KurriKurri Sun 20-Jan-13 17:18:41

I See we are over run with Julies grin who'd have thought? - Copt I was convinced you were an Ermintrude grin <ducks>

No sign of Rupert today - I hope he's OK and thawed out.

Hope everyone is having a good sunday - more snow forecast here - and its just starting to fall now.

DD had a good time last night - it was very successful, - was an uber posh do full of local dignitaries, and they were plied with food and drink, Mr Opera singer went around saying what a fab accompanist DD is and a brilliant sight reader (also he had a bit of a moment where he forgot some of his words and DD covered for him in her playing). So hopefully she'll get some more gigs with him.

Many Happy Returns Mr Ned, - hope there is plenty of cake for the trolley

I'm using DH's notebook as my laptop is making the most hideous noise, its very dinky but seems to have a lot of extra keys which I don't have on mine, which has confused my poor old brain, I keep typing \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ when I want to press shift!

Waving to SR -<admires umbrella> grin

love to all

topsyturner Sun 20-Jan-13 18:11:05

grin At you all being overcome with the Holy Spirit !

Julie is obv as common as muck if you are all named it .....
<ducks , runs , giggles>

If you could choose your own name today , what would you pick ?

Just back from visiting HND
She is looking so much better , although she has developed a rather alarming hump on her back grin
She is bored and wants to come home , which I take as a very good sign .
Hopefully discharged on Tuesday .

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 19:18:17

KK We do indeed run everywhere, always late for everything but our penitence is real, and underneath our wimples we have curlers in our hair, it's a problem ......... wink

I have a feeling these Julies wouldn't last a minute in the abbey, but we are also good at looking gorgeous whilst sledging, with Omar Sharif............ Somewhere my love, dah da da dah dah dah....

Sounds like DD had an amazing experience and that Mr Opera was lucky to have her.

Topsy Glad to hear hnd on the mend.

Copthallresident Sun 20-Jan-13 19:19:46

Why does everyone keep mentioning ducks hmm

smee Sun 20-Jan-13 19:50:51

Ooh yes, Dr Zhivago. Love that film. Must dig it out and bore DH with it. We were gorgeous in that, Copt. grin

Julie is dead common, or used to be though no-one seems to name girls it anymore. Not sure what I'd be called if I had a choice. Will ponder..

Hooray for HND being bored. Tell her we'll make extra room for her hump on the sofa. smile

Kurri, your DD's v.clever. Will she get more work from it? Did she bring any crumbs back from the posh people's table for you?? <holds out plate, hopeful>

Wonder how AtoZ is now? Are you okay out there??

Final snowball fight in the dark just finished, so DS in bed and I'm knackered. I shrieked like a glrl when DH got one down my neck. Whole street must have heard. blush

dd is a star kk ! smile
Not sure what I'd like to be called really - Thea is nice (prob. because it's like Theo)

Gigondas Sun 20-Jan-13 21:45:15

My name was unusual til it was used a couple of years later for a kid in one of the 70s sitcoms. To make up she gave my sis a name that is both unspellable and unpronounceable.

I could barely think of a name for mini gig let alone another for me .

Feeling bit better tonight but not looking forward to Tuesday. Good luck tomorrow tipsy wink

Kurri that's ace about dd concert.

What are bets school is off tomorrow copthall?

PenisColada Sun 20-Jan-13 21:57:48

Just checking in . Not dealing with this wait well and the paranoia is fighting its way out.

I just want my surgery done. Soon. I want my treatment to be done soon and I want to get rid of the cancer and get on with my life with my family.

PenisColada Sun 20-Jan-13 21:58:12

Sorry bit ranty there.

Gigondas Sun 20-Jan-13 21:59:35

No point in not being ranty- I would have been the same if it had hhappened to me.
Am not going to say a week will make no odds really to cancer (it won't) as I know it's the operation an just getting on that is bothering you.

PenisColada Sun 20-Jan-13 22:07:10

I think cabin fever is setting in. Friends all seem to have colds / bugs so not seen anyone much all week. The weather is not good for walks.

I was all prepared for last week and the impact of the cancellation is sinking in. It had better not happen again.

Apologies, will resume trying to be cheerful and coping soon.

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 10:04:45

Don't beat yourself up pen - I have no doubt that you will feel cheerful and cope again but ATM things are shitty so its ok to feel like that.

Am having a wobbly day myself- doesn't help that have got a mindset of if I am really worried It must mean bad news as I remember how worried I was before scan where it had spread.

Topsy - candle lit here x

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 10:17:50

Is it Topsy's results day?? Candle lit here too then. xx

Gig, how long before you have your results? Am here to distract as much as you need. I don't know how it works with you, but imagine no change is a good outcome and any change bad? Hope you don't mind me asking, but I seem to remember when it was me finding people not asking weird. Tell me to shut up though obviously. smile

Pen, moan, rant as much as you want. Must be horrid waiting. Are you keeping busy? Expect you're finding it v.hard to concentrate.

MAS when's your appt? Is it tomorrow? How much snow have you got? Lots here now, but I think you have even more.

Not much going on here apart from work. brew for anyone who wants one.

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 10:28:48

Thanks smee- appt tomorrow at 2. Yes no change (or even, too much to hope for shrinking ) is good - movement or change not good. And I don't mind talking about it here or indeed in rl as helps to acknowledge that am nervous.

Part of paranoia is shoulder pain -I know cause and have it for ages but when the pain refers (ESP down front of my chest) I get nervous. Doesn't happen if I sit up straight etc but am prone to slumping.

Mas are you able to drive easily now?

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 10:30:08

Thanks smee- appt tomorrow at 2. Yes no change (or even, too much to hope for shrinking ) is good - movement or change not good. And I don't mind talking about it here or indeed in rl as helps to acknowledge that am nervous.

Part of paranoia is shoulder pain -I know cause and have it for ages but when the pain refers (ESP down front of my chest) I get nervous. Doesn't happen if I sit up straight etc but am prone to slumping.

Mas are you able to drive easily now?

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 10:37:24

Shoulder's due to mini-gig, am sure. I'd bet 9 out of 10 mothers get it. I know I did. Though obviously paranoia's where your mind goes. Be so brilliant if shrinking's the outcome. I will vibe for that and keep doing so until you're back tomorrow.

Even without mets I anxt. Currently have a sharp on/off pain in my breast. I think it's due to the capsular contraction round my implant, but still makes my mind race. Had it before Christmas and it went so I doubt it's anything sinister, but still. Bloody cancer. grr...

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 10:40:05

It just completely changes your mind set. Even with mets not all of it is cancer but I find myself angsting about everything.

Going to try to crack on with some ou stuff .

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 10:41:26

And yes shoulder is due to slumping posture as lost muscle on that side and lie/roll/hold mini gig on this side. Fact mini gig could play prop for England babies doesn't help smile.

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 10:43:59

grin at mini Gig as Prop. Keep busy then. Not easy, but at least it passes the time.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 11:00:25

Morning All

Hugs to Pen and Gigs
And thanks for all the candles .
Apt at 2.30 (I think , must dig out my letter ...)

Snowing away here .
Hoping roads will be ok this afternoon

Who's manning the breakfast trolley ?
I feel the need for crumpets and butter .

thinking of both topsy and gig xxxx
Have support group on Wednesday which I hope won't be cancelled and then appointment on walking to town shortly so will assess roads etc, and later am collecting Sophie so will see how it is further beyond town centre. Am sure,if it doesn't snow agin here,it will be ok to drive.
Am sitting on the box for everyone in need.

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 11:26:53

Crumpets being buttered for you, Topsy. I am addicted to them with marmite sloshed into the butter. mmm... Will have everything crossed at 2.30 xx

Have a nice walk, MAS. Was lovely taking DS to school today. Not too slippy, and nice crunchy snow for him to hurl at me. grin

T afraid of slipping on the ice- he is a very cautious boy ! I will put my wellies on I think.

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 12:42:19

Also sitting on the box, and sending hugs to Pen and Gig - waiting and worrying is so horrible. Candles and massively good vibes for topsy - we will all be thinking of you sweetie.

DD did not bring back any crumbs for us - most disappointing. She was greeted at the door of the do with champagne, and then given a meal - but unfortuntley she couldn't drink much as she thought it might affect her palying later! (and apparently Mr Opera was v.nervous and downing a bit of dutch courage, so she felt one of them should be sober grin), and she'd eaten before she left 9not knowing food was on offer) but she did eat the meal (which was butternut squash tart for veggies, and some sort of gateaux envy). She had to sit next t her old headmaster from school (apparently something big in Rotary or one of those things) he kept putting his arms round her hmm and basically taking credit for her talent - even though she says he clearly didn't have a clue who she was grin

I'm enjoying the vision of England Babies, with MiniGig launching herself into a scrum grin

My yoga was cancelled due to weather, - supposed to be having my hair cut tomorrow and going to a committee meeting in the evening - not sure if either will be doable.
MAS - hope your support group goes ahead, and chemo on Friday. This weather is a pain now!

Have done something to my back so I'm hobbling around in the gnome position. Old age strikes again.

love to all x

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 12:44:56

For some reason I confuse Julie Christie with Marianne Faithful - although they are not at all alike. Julie was in Far from The Madding Crowd IIRC, - with the lovely Alan Bates (who made another Hardy series near where we live, and my dad, who was a magistrate at the time, had to fine him for speeding!)

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 13:19:56

A difficult few days, thinking of you all, Topsy today, gigs tomorrow, gigs it is normal to worry, not a portent. Even with all the reassurance and clear check ups I have had I am currently having neck paranoia, which makes normal nodes into lumps, it is totally ridiculous but it is where friend had her recurrence and so I can't stop myself reaching up for another probe. They should list paranoia as a side effect of Cancer, the one that keeps on and on. Hips very creaky too but I am sure that is using normally unused muscles to stay upright in the snow! Aw bless mini gig, when does she make her first appearance up the road, England under 21s months. Now that would be cute , baby Rugby! Poor DD2 still a bit of a prop forward, all her life she has been a head taller and bigger built than her peers, plus with the most stunning eye catching hair, not what a teen wants at all so she doesn't notice that actually she is gorgeous, though "you would say that Mum, it's your job" School did open today, just had call to say she is too "frail" to walk home grin

pen I'd be bloody ranting, although Dr Geek suggested a fortnight away before surgery to relax hmm You went through all the nerves and had nearly got it over with and the you find you have to do it all again and as you say you just want this thing out of your body, and out of your life. There was a book doing the rounds when I was diagnosed titled I haven't space in my diary for cancer or something similar. Plus ranting is good if that is how you feel.

Also thinking of atoz and hnd

MAS Hope support group meets, glad it is something you look forward to. My lot were like lovers, when we couldn't meet we emailed and phoned!

Waves to everyone else, smee work? would a spoonful of sugar help?! wink

sandripples Mon 21-Jan-13 13:35:43

Sending good vibes to Topsy, Pen and Gigs. I'm working at home so have caught up with a few posts.

Pen - my friend who's an onc nurse told me that my (snow) delay of 2 weeks wouldn't make any difference to my BC so I decided to believe her. Have to say I was with a bunch of motley assorted patients once I did get onto the ward as lots of folk had been snow-delayed and I was in funny old crowd - when I retire I intend to write a play based on my experiences! Hang on in there and keep distracting yourself if possible.

I have a dear friend who is very ill now. She had BC, got over that and then only a couple of years later developed a NEW primary in the pancreas- rotten luck. Even with a porr prognosis she still gets out and about doing lots of things - I take my hat off really. We rely on e-mail a lot but I'm going to London next week for work so am pleased I'll be able to visit.

I know that having mets would make me very anxious - I can only I do think of you all on here, even if I don't post very much now just due to being at work.

I am finding that full time work tires me out these days although remain very proud that I haven't had a day off sick since returning after BC over 2 years ago. Mind you this awful flu bug is flooring a lot of stalwart colleagues so I'd better not speak too soon.

Ah the beautiful Julie Christie.Lovely to look at - whatever one's feminist credentials. Did anyone see the interview when she described how difficult it is to be beautiful as people just can't see past your face to talk to the peron underneath and take them seriously? Not many could have done that interview w/o seeming extremely vain but she managed and it was a new take on the matter for plain old me!!

Just flying off with my umbrella now- back to work. The Mary Poppins songs haven't stuck in my head like the Sound of Music tho.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 14:15:28

Am in waiting room
To coin a phrase that I stole off a thread I was reading last night ... <frightwee>

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 14:20:01

grin Eek topsy. Go and have a good look in aibu

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 14:25:28

Oh Topsy but grin the last few minutes are the worst , try a Doris Day impersonation "What will be will be" Cliches come in very useful at these times.

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 14:28:46

Or a bit of soft rock or even rap- I ain't going out like that by cypress hill to fortify yourself.if you are wearing your pc plum hat you could turn it round to get the rap look (as well as odd looks from others around you).

Hth smile

sending vibes right now topsy I like frightwee

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 14:44:08

Cypress Hill gringringringrin
Am in consulting room
No doc yet ...

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 14:54:47

2013 is the year for retro music like 2012 was for orange rappers delight

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 15:09:12

Vibe-ing from here too. I like frightwee. Definitely sums it up. xx

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 15:18:14

The scans , they are clear !!!
No change from last time gringringrin

(Rappers Delight is DDs fave song !!!)

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 15:22:34

Oh wow. THAT IS FANTASTIC!! You are so very clever, Topsy. Unique as ever. smile smile smile

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 15:29:56

Fankyou Smee
<blushes , twirls hair round finger>

Onc brought student in with her to "share my uniqueness"

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 15:39:19

So what next? Are you signed off until next CT? What's the timescale?

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 15:54:15

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

I bet you are high as a kite now Topsy the worse the <frightwee> the better the high!

Now the wind is in the right direction for gigs , we Mary Poppins's, we knows these things (though why we are suddenly talking like Dick Van Dyke I don't know)

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 16:00:40

hooray for clear scans topsy, and your uniqueness, that's brilliant - unique is hospital talk for weird grin

I like frightwee grin -talking of which, and lowering the tone, I seem to be weeing about ten times more than normal atm - no pain or anything, just quantities of wee, maybe its the cold weather <pulls on knitted pants>

SR - Like the lovely Julie C, being too beautiful has been a problem for me all my life also gringrin

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 16:15:50

Yay for topsy smilesmilesmile some celabratory not quite rap

That is brilliant .

Arf at kurri lowering the tone.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 16:20:03

Yes , tomorrow is Gigs day !
I decree it must be good grin

Would anyone care to join me in a celebration of my weirdness uniqueness with a small libation ?
<note to self - no hunting for drunk food at 1 am again >

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 16:31:35

Ha! Have mental image of gigs dragging herself to Consultants reeking of alcohol and throwing up after trying the delights of the kebab shop at the end of Clifden Road at 3am (often identified by DDs as the cause of being sick the next day hmm) after being led astray celebrating with Topsy grin

Topsy wine will have fat coke ready tomorrow.

KK smee and I share your pain, Such beauty is indeed a burden and that Omar Sharif and Terrence Stamp were real pests, don't even get me started on Warren Beatty (not that I would anyway)

jchocchip Mon 21-Jan-13 16:59:06

Hurray for topsy grin that's brilliant!
I went sledging in my lunch hour and didn't break anything smile. Been snowing all day so stayed at home and have done some work.

jchocchip Mon 21-Jan-13 17:01:35

Hurray for topsy grin that's brilliant!
I went sledging in my lunch hour and didn't break anything smile. Been snowing all day so stayed at home and have done some work.
Heard that coke full fat and sugar free is prescribed for digestive blockages - apparently a mix of the acid and bubbles is good for the guts!

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 17:18:55

Oh sledging sounds fun jchoc.

Hopefully we can do a wine tomorrow. Personally I prefer a nice curry in one of the more flea ridden artisan local places- there is one on Twickenham green that often has rats running round the door.

smile At daughters excuses- I had a uni mate who once swore it was the opal fruits he had eaten before bed not the 8 pints he had.

Topsy- forgot to ask if hnd has a parole release date?

And thanks for mas for reminding me about gbbo tonight. That should help pre appt nerves.

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 17:28:55

Oh bake off - well done for reminders, - I had forgotten.

I will partake of a little wine <posh> to toast young topsy.

Sledging sounds fun jchoc, - have you got hills near you? - Norfolk is flat as a pancake and the men all marry their sisters grin

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 17:38:33

Kurri's married to her brother?! shock Will definitely need a drink now. grin

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 17:42:14

No on else would marry me Smee grin

fabbest news topsy - medics will be writing papers on you I'll be bound. Will definitelt be having a small sherry to celebrate and to wish gig well tomorrow grin
Walked Sophie home with her holding my arm so I didn't slip on the ice..we went to the toy shop and admired the Sylvanians as usual.

NedSchneebly Mon 21-Jan-13 17:51:41

WOO HOO! for great news topsy well done, you marvellous woman grin

I had my first proper haircut of post-chemo fluff today. Very satisfying smile

Spoke to Dr Lovely on the phone today and she said how proud she was of me getting back to work and coping OK. May possibly have made me a little tearful blush Have been brave and not made another appointment to see/ speak to her - hopefully now I have counselling in place (seeing him tomorrow) I won't have to rely on her so much. She said I could ring/ email any time though, so I don't feel like I've been abandoned at all.

arf grin at Kurri married to her brother! Of course being as beautiful as you are is a burden, I can see that. . . what a cross you have to bear. . .

gig loving the image of minigig in an England babygro scrumming down (DS had one when he was a few months old with his name on the back - he looked completely edible in it!) Got everything crossed for tomorrow for you love x x

MAS sorry about lack of cheque - am crap. Have written and will put in post tomorrow, I promise. blush Am going to see baby F tomorrow, so will let you know (MAS did beautiful baby name card for my friend's new baby)

Waves to everyone - please, all, take care if you are in snowy parts x x x

oh ned don't fret- am so hopeless I'd forgotten about cheque !!

sandripples Mon 21-Jan-13 18:17:54

HUGE HOORAY for Topsy! And again for Ned's fluff-styling - that's quite a milestone!

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 18:30:30

Ooh Ned I need to go for defluffing
My noggin makes me look like a slightly deranged person !

jchocchip Mon 21-Jan-13 18:56:13

Have we got hills near us? Well, if I say the local canal is famous for the 5 rise and 3 rise locks which are within sight of each other, that gives you an idea. Although we say we are in the valley, actually we are some distance above the river and there are some good slopes down to the river in the park ;)

Yay for de-fluffing Ned and being brave coping without Dr Lovely for the mo.

Has everyone invested in overshoe spikes or yaktrack thingys? If it gets icy I'll be wearing mine all the time... Our road has about an inch of compacted snow so we won't be moving the car for a month for a while...

sandripples Mon 21-Jan-13 19:15:12

JChoc - I haven't invested in those ice shoes - but do wonder if I should. Are they good - do they stay on OK?

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 19:21:29

jchoccchip I think the village I grew up in may be somewhere up in the hills above you, unless there is another 5 rise locks somewhere. No shortage of hills for father to hare up and down in manner of crazed Stirling Moss- to drive over wherever you wanted to go. Excellent sledging I must say --A&E always busy when it snowed

feels the net is closing in and may be outed as not looking a bit like Julie Christie

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 19:34:17

Agh! the strike through went on the rampage.

Getting lots of facebook pics of everyone cut off up there, looks very pretty.

Ned For my first defluffing I booked into very expensive French hairdresser, since I had saved so much money in the previous months wink, not counting the ludicrous ly expensive wig, and also I was absolutely livid it had not come back my usual shade of dirty Julie Christie blonde. He could of course done what he wished with me providing it was in a French accent but he sort of shaved it very short up the sides, cut the top so it stood on end and bleached the ends. It was the sort of thing but bleach blonde. I don't think Julie C ever went for that look but I loved it. It was like "When I am old I will wear purple" but more "When I have got rid of Cancer I'll look completely mad" It is satisfying though, a landmark.

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 19:40:05

Yes - I am beginning to suspect I am the only one who genuinely looks like Julie Christie - here is a recent photo of me - I think I was just off to get my shopping at Lidl when that was taken.

ned - the first defluffing is a cause for celebration smile - I'm getting my spiky mess chopped tomorrow - my hair is two inches long on top and sticks straight up, -v.attractive.

jchoc - I think those ice shoes look good - I saw a few people wearing them when I was out the other day.

KurriKurri Mon 21-Jan-13 19:41:48

x-posted copt - Beaker from the Muppets - that is my exact hairstyle atm. grin

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 19:47:35

Kurri, you look mighty glam when you go shopping. shock

Yay for hair, Ned. And hooray for Dr Lovely too. He does always sound rather wonderful. smile

Gig, am still on the box for you. Hope you're okay xx

Pen, are you okay-ish? Feel free to rant all the way to Thursday if it helps.

Wonder if Topsy's drunk yet? Bet she is. Good job HND's still in hospital or it would be riotous. grin

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 19:50:53
Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 19:57:43

KK You are trying to pass yourself off as me angry That is actually my current hairstyle nothing sticks up these days, too lank

though rest of me more

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:05:09

Am doing ok smee but have dodgy tummy so trying to work out what I can eat that wont make it worse.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:06:15

<wonders how kk got that pic of me ?>

smee Mon 21-Jan-13 20:06:27

hmm at tummy, Gigs. Do you think it's nerves?

PenisColada Mon 21-Jan-13 20:07:35

Wow great news topsy ! Really pleased to hear that.

I am just feeling sorry for myself today. Freezing cold . Broke. Have cancer. Great start to the year.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:07:45

Smee .... Snigger !
shit your photo looks scarily like me

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:08:49

Copt - wish I looked half as good as Miss Piggy grin

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:09:47

You looked lovely in that police hat wink

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:10:02

Gigs <rubs poorly tummy>
<proffers wine> <takes wine back and proffers diarolyte>

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:10:44

Think it could well be part of it plus tail end of whatever made me feel poorly at the weekend. I don't even feel like wine shock

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:10:44

Pen shitty start to the year indeed .
But it can only go up from here xxx

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:11:32

Yep- if you bleached your hair topsy, you could be yazz and sing that to her.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:11:48

Had to give police hat back Gigs
Some guff like "regulations miss" ...

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:13:50

I DO want to go blonde this time .
Went purple after hair grew back last time .
Never been a proper blonde before .
Trouble is , I keep taking pics of blonde hair that I like on randomers and I think the police might contact me soon ....

<yes , am fast approaching drunk>

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:15:19

Nooooooooooo !
Fecking sky gone down again .
Damn you snow !!!

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:25:49

You will be damning it even more if there is a snow day tomorrow when there is no sky, 2 kids and a hangover.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:40:22

Noooooooooooo !
Gigs you are a little ray of sunshine !

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 20:42:10

grin Promise I will try and be nicer tomorrow post appt.
am just grumpy as dont fancy a drink or food.

jchocchip Mon 21-Jan-13 20:42:17

Think I have to go in to work tomorrow, dd has exam in the morning so she has to go in, too. Hope it is not too snowy and the trains run on time... May go and look for some wine
And I made a cake yesterday with parsnip in, and it is surprisingly scrummy smile
Topsy our telly has lost its colour balance, and everything looks green.

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 21:49:28

Am lusting after Laurence Fox in Lewis , upstairs in bed
Pig/dog is snoring on the bed beside me . I keep having to turn the volume up as he's getting louder !

You can be as grumpy as you like Gigs , I shall just carb load tomorrow when I am hungover and the kids are stuck at home with me .

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 21:50:21

Cake with parsnip ???
Is it covered in choklit ?

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 22:12:21

Who fancies making me a fried egg sandwich ?

topsyturner Mon 21-Jan-13 22:20:45

No one ?
Goes to bed

jchocchip Mon 21-Jan-13 22:24:54

Aw Topsy I'd have made you a fried egg sandwich grin

The cake also has two overripe bananas and some dates and sultanas and no chocolate. The one my friend made last week following a recipe (!) had a cream cheese based topping so same idea as carrot cake...

Copthallresident Mon 21-Jan-13 22:40:35

gigs I had a friend who had to give up a career as a barrister because everytime she had to speak up in court she shat herself got a dodgy tummy with the nerves.

Annoying not to be able to comfort eat and drink, do you have any other comforts? Baths? Things are actually a bit volcanic here this evening so maybe something is going around, all I eat earlier today was Mushrooms on toast (Reubens smile or maybe it is Reuben's fault sad) .

jchocchip beetroot also makes a surprisingly nice cake, and courgettes, and of course they are 1 of your 5 a day grin So is it the same hills as I used to roam as a girl in my wimple?

Topsy Sadly no one can take the place of John Thaw, he lulled you into a state of contentment, in spite of the bodies all around......

Gigondas Mon 21-Jan-13 22:46:24

It could well be nerves but do think something ia going around as have felt dodgy on and off since Saturday.
Lewis is recorded for tomorrow but midsomer is also on which is something to look forward to post appt.

jchocchip Tue 22-Jan-13 06:31:48

copt If it is the same hills you would have been able to see the chimney of the famous thermal underwear factory. Is that a clue?

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 07:04:17

Is snow going to make your trip to school/work tricky today jchoc or is it easing?

Somewhat disturbed night due to tummy- how long does loperamide take to work? brew For those that want it.

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 07:25:19

Morning Gigs
What time is your apt ?
Handholding from me .

Snow Day here .
DDs school definitely closed .
No word yet on DS , but I'm keeping him off as snow really bad here .
DH presently outside attempting to dig his car out of the driveway .
Because Ofcourse his company , and very likely the global economy , will grind to a halt if he doesn't make it in.

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 07:32:05

2pm- just taken drugs so can get in without loo stops I hope.

Dh would probably have felt less responsible for the economic upturn if Sky was working.

hand holding here from me too gig

NedSchneebly Tue 22-Jan-13 09:04:16

Got a spare hand here too gig Thinking of you lots today x x x x x x x x x

Copthallresident Tue 22-Jan-13 09:28:18

gigs I was thinking of you last night as I tossed and turned with explosive tummy on top of usual sweatiness. Hope your tummy is now dormant. Everything crossed for later.

DH similarly entirely responsible for continuing functioning of the global economy, apart from when the Rugby is on, funny that. (Actually not funny, I worry the stress and long hours will kill him and he doesn't have a reliable spare as a parent to his children to allow him to risk that)

jchocchip Couldn't actually see the chimney from our village, we were further up on t'moors, that was the bright lights, with a Library! and a Swimming Pool! I spent my teenage years roaming the moors looking for Heathcliff, so much more interesting than the local boys wink and there wasn't much else to do It is beautiful up there, I miss it, though I hated it, and that wretched last bus at 10.30, as a teenager. The snow is bad, never known so many people snowed in!

Hooray my internet is back. Just need to get Sky sorted as at the moment we only have 1 working TV as apparently the connection that sends the signal around the house is broken. My goodness my weekend has been long without any distractions.

Huge good luck vibes for you today gigs also hope your dodgy tummy is a bit better.

Have missed so much and trying to catch up but know that I have been thinking of you all. I did spot on Facebook wonderful news from topsy - excess amounts of wine must be the way to go grin.

Hope everyone stays warm today. I have to brave the elements and go for my MRI. Just hope I don't make a fool of myself and fall on the way to the bus. Feeling very nervous as this will hopefully give the answer to the query about the liver and bone mets.

It is good to be back.

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 10:41:22

<waves like loon at Gracie >
Good to see you back .
Good luck with the MRI , when do you get the results ?

Think I need choklit now ...

<waves back at topsy> Not sure when the results will be back. Hopefully onc will contact me next week as I need my echo results before they will give my my next Herceptin which is due next Friday. Hope you are having a good day with your kiddies. Mine are all at school thankfully

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 11:08:21

Tons of luck gracie - it will be noisy so ask them to put music on.

Feeling very washed out and nervous

waving to gracie !

Thank you smile.

Just had a call that DS rugby cancelled grin. He played yesterday and was like a drowned rat.

Is your appointment today as well mas?

smee Tue 22-Jan-13 12:34:11

Lots going on today then, if it's you too MAS. Thinking of you and Gracie and of course you Gig. Candle burning bright for you. x

Pen, not long to go now. How are you today??

Haven't heard from AtoZ for a few days now. Hope she's okay. Are you out there AtoZ? Let us know how you are if you're up to it.

Topsy, when's HND out? Surely soon? She's been in for ever. shock

Snow's half ice, half slush here. Bit bored of it now so don't mind if it goes. Not much going on. Less paranoid though, as connected chest/ breast aching with sledging. D'oh..! grin

nope - not me today...
Am going out soon in car,should be ok as main road and A3 -got to buy new pens and things for my mum's birthday...

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 14:04:42

Rushing in to say Good luck Gigs - will be thinking of you gorgeous girl xx

Good luck to gracie for MRI, and massive hugs for nerves xx

handholding for you both.

lots of love to everyone who is waiting for appointments, tests, ops, etc.

MAS - DD says thanks for the e-mail - she liked it grin

My art club committee meeting has been cancelled tonight - thank goodness because the country roads are awful still.

Have had my hair snipped short - I am no longer Beaker, - more of a nailbrush grin

Old lady dog found a bag of dog biscuits in my bag while I wasn't looking and has helped herself to quite a few! Now she's fallen asleep by the radiator to take the weight off her stomach.

Have to say one very unwelcome result of kids being off school here and out on the street, - one of our friends has been abused by a group of kids on her way home from work each night - racist abuse, - little shits! Can you report that to the police?

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 14:06:51

Oh and love to HND - where is she? - surely not still incarcerated? - hope you are recovering well if you are reading this HND if you are still in hospital is it so you don't have to see so much of topsy?

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 14:46:18

KK racist language and verbal abuse is indeed taken very seriously by the police , and bloody rightly so !
Tell your friend to give her local station a ring or give me directions and let me at them

babababababa baaaaaah
HND is being picked up from the hospital right now !!!!
I have her DC here whilst DH goes and gets her . And her eldest has just said to me that the first thing he wants to do with her when she gets home is have a snowball fight with her !!! gringringrin

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 14:48:29

Pig/dogs treats are kept in the same cupboard as the coffee . So the other day I took the coffee out , took it over to the work top , made coffee , turned around to put coffee back .
Found pig/dog shoulder deep in the cupboard , munching !!!
He got sent straight to the naughty step grin

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 15:05:12

Yay for HND getting out at last smile

I will tell my friend to tell the police, I definitely think she should, - I think she tends towards 'I'll just ignore it. it happens' but obviously it is upsetting and utterly shitty even if they are kids - maybe they should get a fright from the police to stop them doing it again. (It is mindless 'why don't you go back to China/Japan' etc. - wherever they try to guess she is from, - She's tried telling them she's British actually, but they are pig ignorant, and not open to discussion or factual information!

Poor pig-dog - he must have been staaaaaaaaarving like old lady dog<sad look>

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 15:31:04

winethanksFor hnd and for me as all clear so off the hook for 3 months. Specialist nurse was there who said I was tough as old boots.

Have macaroons for trolley as not sure i dare risk them yet.

Thanks tons for handholding and support.

Also saw another nurse who was very positive about mets treatment.

NedSchneebly Tue 22-Jan-13 15:44:07

WOO HOO and thanks gig I am LURVING all the good news this week! Sounds like you've had a positive experience today then? Well done love smile

Also WOO HOO for HND breaking out. Am sure you'll feel good to be in your own bed. Sending you lots of love. Will be great to see you back!

Sort of snow falling here, but not settling. Been raining most of the day so hopefully the blasted white stuff will soon be gone. Fingers crossed!

Sending love to all x x x x x Anyone for a brew ? Have malt loaf too if anyone wants a quick snack

smee Tue 22-Jan-13 16:15:48

wine wine smile smile for Gig!! That must be a mahoosive relief. Does that mean no change then? Am guessing so. Brilliant to go to hospital and have a positive experience for once. I think the scales have tilted your way. smile

(((((gentle hugs for HND)))))))) Crawl back on the sofa with us and tell us all. Hope the DC aren't too brutal with the snowballs. grin

Pigdog and Little Old Lady Dog are joined on naughty step by dopey cat here. Came in yesterday to find mushrooms all over the floor. Some half eaten, others used for footballs. grin

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 16:41:26

Means mets got smaller (dh told
Me this as i sat with my hands over my ears grin). And yes it was positive- even got onc to refer me for genetic screen as almost sure it's not genetic but want to make sure for the little gigs. My real father died young of cancer so is a big what if in my mind.

grin At naughty animal stories. I miss my pets- my cat once ate through my birthday cake then spat it out as didn't like it which made it seem worse.

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 17:14:25

Aaw Gigs that's fantastic news !
<ponders opening another bottle>

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 17:28:47

Brilliant news Gig - wine for you tonight my lovely.

grin at cat playing mushroom football - what with miniGig and her baby rugby we've had all the extreme sports on here this week grin

OL dog always begs for pieces of satsuma, on and on whining until you give in, then she instantly spits it on the floor and you get the 'what the hell have you given me this for?' look !

Are you working tomorrow ned? is your school open?

amberlight Tue 22-Jan-13 17:32:34

Gig, wheee!!!!!!!!!!!! grin

smee Tue 22-Jan-13 17:42:18

Gig, shrunk?! shock Wow that's even more amazing. Topsy's uniqueness must be rubbing off. You haven't secretly been snorted over by Pigdog have you? We all know about his healing paws. grin

NedSchneebly Tue 22-Jan-13 17:43:36

kurri god, I hope my school will be shut but I can't see it happening. I have just texted my head teacher to say the weather is foul and to be prepared for me not coming in tomorrow, but I'll decide in the morning. I am feeling really anxious about having to make a decision in the morning if school is open sad I just feel that school will not compensate me or pay my increased insurance premiums if I crash my car, but if it's fine round school, people might think I am a fraud. I live about 35 minutes drive from school btw.

Don't know what to do for the best sad

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 17:47:16

Don't feel anxious - I wouldn't risk it and don't think it's reasonable to expect it.

Anyone seen this q and a.

gringringringringrin hooray for great and really fab news gig !!!!!
And yay for hnd coming home - wine all round !
sad about racist little gits angry

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 18:10:06

Oh Ned - I hope it's closed, - but don't take any risks - tell them you haven't been though cancer treatment only to have a car accident <this is officially known as 'playing the cancer card' and is to be used freely grin)>

grin at pig-dog's mystical healing paws.

agree with kk there ned

smee Tue 22-Jan-13 19:14:57

Yes, KK's wise, Ned. You've done so, so well to go back. They should be amazed by you, and am sure they are.

Kurri, best thing my mate told me about racist abuse was she turned round and smiled and said 'it's okay to be jealous'. Shut them up if only momentarily. Little gits don't deserve wry humour though. I think she should call the police too. angry

am desperately hoping the secondary support group is still on tomorrow...

PenisColada Tue 22-Jan-13 19:32:22

Fantastic news gigs xx

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 19:40:40

Is snow bad round your way still mas?

Can someone drink my. wine For me

Pen how you doing?

KurriKurri Tue 22-Jan-13 19:52:14

Just tip your glass into my pelican-beak-like mouth Gig grin

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 20:32:03

Pig/dog is very pleased at all this praise .
And he says he will run one to one healing paw sessions for very reasonable dog biscuits rates ...

He also does the satsuma thing grin

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 20:37:27

Perhaps we could go on pilgrimage to see him?

Watching gbbo- the biscuits were minging.

smee Tue 22-Jan-13 20:41:45

You still got your dodgy stomach, Gig? <holds out glass in case Kurri drops some> grin

Pigdog deserves more than dog biscuits, surely. shock

MAS, is it still snowing there? You must be sick of it. hmm

Gigondas Tue 22-Jan-13 20:42:27

Yes- think its a bug. I will spare you tmi. Not to want food or wine is most unlike me.

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 20:52:57

Pig/dog days he is setting up his own religion and we must all call him Sauron from now on .

I told him to be quiet as I'm watching Holby ...

jchocchip Tue 22-Jan-13 21:36:05

Yay for gig wine and well done to hnd being sprung.

Heck that was a long day.
copt I do indeed live in the bright lights with the library and Swimming pool my second home I live about 4 mins walk across the park from the pool so you could prob find my house on google (outs self) I work all over the villages and the rather posh town with the lido and the moors are indeed beautiful at the mo. Hope I don't regret changing jobs and going desk bound from mid Feb...
Watching death in paradise...

Copthallresident Tue 22-Jan-13 21:36:38

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

gigs gets good news too! Shrinkage! Sorry you can't celebrate, my tummy is still revolting as well, very noisy about it too..... and the biscuits were minging, in fact everything the celebs attempt is, and they are not even funny. Being grumpy though as have secret crush on Sue Perkins <Am I gay?>

Gracie it's definitely going the right way ....

Topsy Just tell Pig dog / Sauron that if he won't shut up and stop disturbing your TV viewing with his plans for world domination then we'll send in the eagles.

Definitely terrible forces at work in Middle Earth though with all these misbehaving animals grin Goon dog's slide into middle aged delinquency started before Christmas when he stole the carving dish off the kitchen table. My fault really because I usually give him the dish to lick after we have finished with it, but I left it on the table, and strangely he did not follow me to the living room. Two hours later there was a huge crash, clearly he had been staring at the dish for two hours before finally the temptation was too much. It's all gone downhill from there, chops nicked off plates if you pop out of the room, boxes of Rowntrees (including box and wrappers), sitting and watching you fixedly as you eat just in case you let down your guard....

KK Does your friend know what school they go to, might be an idea to tell school as well as police. Police will warn them, could prosecute them but school can hopefully educate them. Otherwise we should send in Sauron and the eagles.....

Copthallresident Tue 22-Jan-13 21:55:51

jchocchip rather posh town with the lido and the moors and Betty's! grin grin Betty's cakes and hot chocolate for the trolley please next visit! My village was t'other direction, on't way to Lancashire but now I rarely get to visit as my parents are properly posh now and live north of the even posher town than the rather posh one, the one with TWO Betty's.

sandripples Tue 22-Jan-13 22:09:02

Gig- am very happy bout your news!

i have a smelly cat here biting my arm so have to go,

topsyturner Tue 22-Jan-13 22:10:15

<gets confused with all the posh towns>
<very easily confused these days>
<dons new robes as am now Saurons Minion>

Copthallresident Tue 22-Jan-13 22:15:38

<hides all maps of really posh and rather posh towns oop north from Sauron's minions to protect parents and jchocchip>

<sends in eagles>

jchocchip Tue 22-Jan-13 22:22:09

My cat just seems to sleep all the time at the mo when not eating TWO Bettys is greedy, tho now you mention it I haven't had a fat rascal for a while! Is the 2 Bettys Town the one with the Turkish baths? I was thinking of that the other day.

We did live in a village up the hill for a while before we moved here - think 2 pubs 1 school, Give me another clue to your old village copt

wish we had a Betty's
All hail to his eminence Sauron - perhaps you could send out snippets of his fur ?
Snow still on the ground - but no apparent fall overnight. Think ds is hoping for a day off as he was very excited by huge snowflakes blizzarding about yesterday evening - I told him not to be so joyful as I might not get to my support group, so he kindly said he'd support me if I couldn't go.

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 07:39:51

As that is nice mas- hope you can make it.

Tummy a bit easier but think I may stay here rather than go to my therapy appt as dont want to stray too far from home . Dh reckons I got it from line in hospital again as felt ill day after.

Mini gig is kindly offering up to suarion bits of toast and porridge she doesn't fancy.

jchocchip Wed 23-Jan-13 07:46:08

Morning all. All our local schools say they are open. And I'm on the bus so the roads aren't that bad. Hope your group is on mas but smile at T.
No milk in the shop so hope the little I have left at work is ok!

poor gig - stay in the warm and hope tummy feels better soon.

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 08:18:45

Sauron graciously accepts all offerings from the mini gigs , and would like you all to know he is open to bribery ...

Mas I hope your group is on today .

Gigs <passes cork for poorly botty>

Blardy heating has refused to come on today .
We have a foot and a half of fecking snow out there , and the bastard heating chooses today to stop working .
Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!!

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 09:19:42

It seems to happen on days like that.. We had new boiler about a year ago as old one packed up at first sign of sub zero temperature. Is sky still off?

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 09:35:25

kurri I have taken your example and had a rant about ridiculous posts where people don't follow advice.

smee Wed 23-Jan-13 09:48:54

Sauron will always be pig dog to me. Brrr on heating. Ours did that yesterday, but for some reason it re-booted. Have you got a plumber on way??

MAS, how sweet of DS to say that. What's happening? Is school on? Is Group on?

There's a stomach bug going round, Gig. DS had a day off last week with it. Not nice and lingers, so take care. Hope you're feeling a bit more spring-like today though after scan news. smile

Jane, hope the bus got you to work. Bit treacherous on the streets here. Ice everywhere, though snow mostly gone.

What's happening with you, Ned? I have a feeling she's gone to work as no postings.. Hope you made it okay xx

brew on here for anyone who wants one. Pen are you ready for tomorrow? Can't believe you'll be bumped again, as they do seem to do their utmost not to. What time do you have to be in?

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 09:55:58

Sky working , thank goodness .
I can cope with no heating , but not no tv gringringrin

DH has a plumber he knows (through work) and he (DH) dropped the gem as he swanned out to his nice warm work this morning that plumber man was boasting yesterday that he's fully booked for the next 3 weeks !!!!!

And the snow has started again here !!!

On other news , I am next door in HNDs house keeping warm her company .
Fairly good nights sleep was had .
District nurse here now .

Have I told you all ?
I HATE SNOW !!!!!!

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 10:45:28

Give hnd a hug from me(gently tho so as not to upset her wounds).
I can offer sauron some old rice cake and the remains of a packet of Pom bear.
Yes it is a relief smee- just feels like a small victory esp when this time lady year was such bad news. Sounds like my bug similar- I don't feel I'll, just grumbly upset tummy so very odd. Also so far seems to have escaped rest of family (although hard to tell with mini gig as she is fond of filling her nappy).

Going to try to ou work today- copthall the massive shoulder busting ref book I have is your fault.

is pen's op tomorrow ? loads of good thoughts to you,if it is x
Looks as though meeting is on,dh gone off to work and ds to school - no new snow.
topsy grr about heating - hope you can get it sorted pronto, or that it decides to behave.
Gentle welcome home hugs for hnd

spoke too soon, meeting cancelled due to snow sad - so am going to do some work and I can take T to his piano lesson.

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 11:57:52

Oh mas that is a shame.

Super news gigs so pleased for you re. your results.

aw mas that is a shame about your meeting.

pen good luck for tomorrow we shall be thinking of you.

No heating is dire topsy. I hope you get it sorted soon. Do we need to send you some emergency blankets? The snow has pretty much turned into thick ice here so not looking forward to the school/dancing run.

My mutt keeps pawing at my arm as he wants a walk. He has no chance.

MRI was ok. I may have taken a Diazapam before hand blush. 50 minutes is a long time to be strapped down. I just hope the results come through quickly as I feel very stressed about them.

Hope everyone is keeping warm and safe and hope you got to work safely ned. Waves to smee, kurri and anyone else lurking. Did we ever hear any word from pink? I often wonder how she was getting on.

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 12:55:54

Plumber here .
Thinks we might need a new pump .
Anyone know how much that might cost me ?
<wonders if he will give me discount for the molestation pig/dog/sauron subjected him to>

smee Wed 23-Jan-13 13:19:44

sad mas. Have they rescheduled it for soon? Hope so.

Haven't a clue on how much, Topsy but surely the healing paws of Sauron will win you a discount? grin

Hope HND's okay. Come natter with us soon xx. smile

Diazepam sounds like the way to go, Gracie. Have they not said when you'll get the results. That seems a bit cruel. Waiting must be crippling. hmm

I think of Pink often too. I did pm her (a long while back now), but she never replied, so I guess we have to respect that. Pink if you are out there, come say hi if you're up to it. xx

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 13:28:51

Depend on boiler but think pumps are usually about £100 plus vat but need to add on fitting/call out.

MRI is the worst sort of scan but when you add in stress of what looking for and a wait its horrid. Gracie can you phone your nurse/dr and ask.

Smee that was kind- guess the offer is still there if she wants it. Personally I luff this thread but I know not everyone copes that way.

50 mins gracie ? yikes-and well done...
I guess the next meeting will be as scheduled on 20th Feb.

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 13:49:10

I would want a GA for 50 mins in an MRI machine Gracie !!!

Plumber done
New pump fitted
Boiler serviced
Still don't know how much as in the quaint way they do it in this country , when I asked he just said "oh I'll see you right"
He will give DH the bill when he sees him in work ...

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 13:50:33

2 1/2 hours was my longest MRI. My tip is if you are going to get cancer, don't get one where MRI are part of the test.

Great news about boiler

hooray about boiler !!
Can I ask you lovely ones to take a look at this ?

"Oh I'll see you right" sounds ominous. What on earth have you offered him? grin but glad your boiler is fixed.

Waves to hnd hope you are recovering well and Topsy isn't bothering you is looking after you.

smee that was lovely of you. Hopefully one day she will come back to tell us how well she is doing.

They have a large sign in the MRI department stating 'please do not phone for your results' so I best wait until my onc calls. He has a habit of phoning on a Sunday. He phoned me the Sunday night before Christmas at 9.30 pm to wish me a happy Christmas smile.

Will check out your page this evening mas off to the school run/dance run now.

KurriKurri Wed 23-Jan-13 15:10:21

Afternoon all, sorry for poorly tummy Gig - hope you feel better soon.

MAS - shame your meeting was cancelled - will they reschedule it soon?

gracie -hope you don't have to wait long for results, but well done for getting through the MRI - they don't sound much fun at all.

Pen loads of love and luck for tomorrow xx

Adding my voice to good wishes and love to Pink - if you ever read this Pink, I think of you often xx

topsy - hooray for new boiler , hmm to 'I'll see you right' - that could mean anything.

Our friend (who was abused by little shits) is reluctant to tell police, - although DH has been urging her too, she might tell the school though if she can find out which one it is. She and her Dh have sent us a bottle of their home brew - which looks dangerously strong grin - I may put some on the trolley (or I may just drink it all and fall over)

I braved yoga this morning. The room was freezing cold - air con on full for some reason hmm.
Also met a woman there who lives in the next village to me, so I suggest she drops in for coffee. As we were leaving I give her my number and say 'hope you don't mind untidyness and dogs', she said 'I'm fine with untidyness, but not very keen on dogs' confusedconfused - so if she turns up, I'll have to either shove OL dog in another room where she will howl, or let her in and she will try to kiss the woman and sit on her lap and no doubt terrify her. Hmm - what to do? - Dress OL dog in a baby grow and say she is my grand daughter????

KurriKurri Wed 23-Jan-13 15:12:10

Oh - welcome home HND, home you are not feeling too delicate, and are not being disturbed by drunken choruses of 'Nelly Dean' from the house next door grin

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 15:34:13

I think she may have 'nelly deAn' in person as wasn't she visited by topsy until hearing fixed. She will have been happy to have a healing lick from sauron.

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 15:36:04

I may have to name change. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Copthallresident Wed 23-Jan-13 15:42:42

Gigs 2.5 hours? sad I would need serious drugs for 50 mins let alone 2.5 hours. My Hong Kong scans were the worst as they talked in Cantonese throughout and Cantonese is peppered with exclamations Aiyah! and intimations of doom, sentences that go really deep at the end finished by lah.. So it always sounded as if they were saying Oh No! This is bad..... when in fact they were probably talking about the weather.

Lots of turbulent tummy here today, DD2 also off with it now. Just had two slices of dry bread because I couldn't face putting anything on it, and yet it is as if I have been on a diet of beans, fried onions and artichokes for the last three days. Hope you feel better soon because then there is hope for us too

Gracie Everything recrossed for you.

Topsy Where are my eagles? You do realise that Sauron is the epitome of evil (though played by Benedict Cumbernatch in the nuddy in the Hobbit so he can't be all bad) and his minions end up looking like this Goon dog looked just like this to me after he dug up my flower beds......Those of us who are the epitome of goodness and get to call in the eagles look like this [[] Just saying. <tucks long flaxen locks behind pointy ears>

"I'll see you right" north of the Watford Gap is a good thing. If a southern plumber says "I'll see you right" be afraid , be very afraid ................

jchocchip I'll see your two pubs and I school and add in three large churches (CofE, Methodist and Baptist, for 3000 people! No wonder I can't shake this boring northern protestant ethic ), two mills and.....dah dah a viaduct. and a quarry ... That should narrow it down!

Mas Sorry about your support group, I hope it will be rearranged for soon. A good choice of charity, will give even if you sneak a few choccie bars

KurriKurri Wed 23-Jan-13 15:42:49

Oh yes HND - let Sauron at those stitches with his spiritual saliva grin

Why namechange GIg?

Copthallresident Wed 23-Jan-13 15:47:34

Tsk! Sauron messed up the link to my luminescent beauty

And yeah to hnd for escaping and hope new boob all settled in.

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 15:53:50

Dss is applying for internship here. Not that I am particularly bothered about being traced but did wonder if should name change.

Copthall symptoms sound very similar- cant face banana in front of me for that reason. Hope it goes soon as its very dull .

will think of new name for gig
copt I promise I won't sneak any choc during Lent. Have just thought though- does sugar-free chewing gum count as sweeties ? I am fond of it as I think it keeps my teeth in order.

I think plumber means he won't take advantage of you topsy

Copthallresident Wed 23-Jan-13 16:07:20
topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 18:22:37

Is it just me ?
Or dies Galadriel look like she's giving the finger in that pic ?

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 18:31:11

I thought that was point of photo- but know nothing of lord of rings (but am clearly an expert in flicking the bird).

jchocchip Wed 23-Jan-13 18:38:07

I'm on the bus home - catch up properly later
copt you mean 2 schools now! - I was one village closer to where I am now. My dd2 did ballet in the village hall in the viaduct village and we went there to the shops (spar, chinesy) and to cycle along the viaduct now a sustrans route. Nice view from the top! My uncle by marriage came from that area too.

jchocchip Wed 23-Jan-13 18:42:37

Phew just managed to recover from settng phone to chinese!

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 20:53:41

Hand holding to Pen for tomorrow
Hope it all goes smoothly for you this time x

Gigondas Wed 23-Jan-13 20:54:59

Good thoughts for you tomorrow pen x

NedSchneebly Wed 23-Jan-13 21:06:45

Bleurgh. . . Managed to get in to work OK, though it did take an hour and a quarter. Road closed due to flooding. Class were a bit manic today and new
planning format that we are now supposed to be using is slightly unwieldy to teach from and very complicated to manage, with different groups of kids rotating through different activities, so lots of movement. It takes such a lot of setting up and preparation, much more than old format. Feel like I've gone back a step or two today sad

Just wanted to pop in and wish pen all the best for tomorrow in case I don't make it on in the morning. Will have everything crossed for you lovely, and hope to goodness they don't bump you again. Be gentle to yourself and hurry back to us x x x

Heading for a bath and my bed. Lots of love t all x x

topsyturner Wed 23-Jan-13 21:09:38

Have a good nights sleep Ned
Sounds like it was a loooong day !

Watching Africa
Wonder what will die this week and make me cry ?
Gotta stop doing this to myself grin

Coffee anyone ?
(I know , weird to see me without a wine glass in my hand eh ?)

smee Wed 23-Jan-13 21:21:56

Ned, I'd bet you haven't gone backwards at all. If you hadn't had cancer, but had a new age group/ class you'd be having these problems am sure. Bound to be tricky for you. Sleep well xx

Nipping in to say huge hugs for Pen. Will be thinking of you tomorrow. Hope they put you first on the list so you don't have to wait. x

Topsy without wine? confused

Two and a half hours gigs <wishes there was a faint smiley>. I would have needed gas and air.

Good luck pen for tomorrow.

mas I wouldn't class sugar free gum as a sweet, sure it's calorie free. We will scoff look after your sweets for you grin.

Hugs to you ned hope tomorrow is a better day.

PenisColada Wed 23-Jan-13 21:33:57

Thanks tomorrow is the big day. At least I am going in at 7am so not as much time to fret. Just popped some codeine to make me sleep.

Ths thread has been a lifeline thanks so much for putting up with me.

I hope my next post will be after op is over not to tell you it is cancelled again. Do you think I need to cry to get temazepam again or will they just give it to me ?

jchocchip Wed 23-Jan-13 22:03:12

Thinking of you Pen hope it all goes smoothly tomorrow.

just tell them how it helped last time pen - sleep well and will be thinking of you tomorrow.
ned you are doing brilliantly,don't feel you've gone back a step xxx

KurriKurri Wed 23-Jan-13 23:21:40

Loads of good thoughts for tomorrow Pen, hope everything goes really well for you, and you are home and recovering asap (and yes tell them you had temaz. last time and you need it again) xx

Gigondas Thu 24-Jan-13 07:54:00

Tentative offering of brew here as tummy seems to be getting better.

Hope you are temazepam'ed up and on way to theatre pen- thinking of you x

jchocchip Thu 24-Jan-13 09:31:16

Hope tummy is behaving with the brew gig

Copthallresident Thu 24-Jan-13 09:32:21

gigs brew (Flowering Jasmine tea) All seems calm here at the moment too, and DD has gone off to school. Last night DH decided I should try wine as a kill or cure, and I did feel much better grin

BTW don't blame me for the doorstop reference book, it is the weight of all that study over the centuries! You should have chosen a subject like mine, usually just a footnote in western history!!

Thinking of Pen, hope she got her drugs.

smee Thu 24-Jan-13 20:04:54

Very quiet on here today. Been on one of my epic train journeys for work, so to Cardiff and back. Was lovely to see all the snow from the window.

Just nipped on to see if there's any word from Pen. Am thinking no news is good news, as it must mean she's had her op. Fingers crossed she has and is propped up and comfy now. x

HerNextDoorAt21 Thu 24-Jan-13 20:08:28

Good evening everyone and profuse apologies for my absence, the Internet signal and small type on phone was not conducive to joining in very much. I feel now I a home I am going to have more time to join in.

I got sprung on Tuesday which was day 15 in hospital. I am still leaking very badly from the large swelling under my arm frommthe front and back scars but it has to get out somehow and aspiration wasn't possible as it was described as a sponge effectbwherebthe fluid is all in the tissue and not a pool so to speak.

I have to see my lovely surgeon tomorrow and will be oweekly check ups from now on. The 11 days of leech therapy has paid excellent dividends.

I have had a ad at recent posts and is great to see gigs and of course topsy having such excellent news !!!!

Did pen go in for her surgery ? Has anyone got any news ?

Hi to everyone else and hope to get a little bit mor involved now I have more time and my iPad !!!

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 24-Jan-13 21:23:26

Evening everyone. Apols for highjacking your thread but we just wanted to draw your attention (if it hasn't been drawn already) to our Macmillan support Q&A thread.

We're looking for MNers who'd be willing to share their experiences and advice (i.e. act as the MN "experts") on this Q&A in tandem with a Macmillan spokesperson.

If that sounds like something you might consider, please do have a look and read more about it.

smee Thu 24-Jan-13 21:39:15

Helen not hijacking at all. Will go have a look.

Waving to HND. Lovely to see you back. <mwaah> smile smile Fluid sounds annoying. How's the new breast? Have you seen it yet? Are you in pain or okay-ish? Hope the later. x

No news from Pen is I think good news, as must mean she's had her surgery.

HerNextDoorAt21 Thu 24-Jan-13 22:00:20

smee my new breast is a lovely size but the swelling to the side makes it look,like a bit of a car crash at the moment ! I have managed with no painkillers today, there is little pain (underarm is a wee bit sore after lymph node removal) it's just a little uncomfortable whee the swelling is.

Went to topsys for my first glass of post op wine tonight ...... Mmmmmmm

smee Thu 24-Jan-13 22:53:38

Yay for new breast!! Take pain killers tonight maybe? Might help you sleep. Good that you don't need them during the day though. Wine is of course medicinal. Did you let Sauron lay his healing paws on you? grin

KurriKurri Thu 24-Jan-13 23:07:53

Hi HND - yay for new booby - am sure it will look great once the swelling has gone down, - well done for managing without painkillers, but have a few handy for night times - things always seem more sore at night for some reason.

Hope Pen has had her op and is tucked up asleep in hospital (and has no snorers on her ward!)

Hi Smee, was Cardiff journey OK - no delays due to the wrong kind of snow on the line? Hope you had a big fat book to read.

Helen - thanks for dropping in smile will have a look at that link.

HerNextDoorAt21 Thu 24-Jan-13 23:24:27

I didn't let pig/dog Sauron anywhere near me today, I'm sure he would be sniffing all over my new booby ....... I'm not too confident around dogs and although he is a big soppy pup, he knows it !

Hey welcome back hnd ! Hope the wine @ tipsy's has been medicinal grin
I'm sure that pen must be tucked up safely in bed.

KurriKurri Thu 24-Jan-13 23:37:41

Waving to MAS smile

HND - but Sauron has magical healing paws, and dribble grin

jchocchip Fri 25-Jan-13 09:02:40

Yay for hnd and medicinal wine at topsy's
'Sposed to be going out tonight but forecast heavy snow and blizzard not too good sad will see what happens later!

Gigondas Fri 25-Jan-13 09:08:47

That's irritating about your night out jchoc.

Yay for healing wine and fact snow hasn't impacted on topsy/hnd supply.

Snowy journey sounds quite nice smee.

Am feeling very bleurgh after few days of not much food so wonder if sauron could be trained to fetch snacks. Probably not...

Need to wake up a bit as got friends coming for lunch and need to cook

HerNextDoorAt21 Fri 25-Jan-13 09:45:46

Thanks ladies ...... Sauron fetch snacks ? He'd have them all eaten in a second ! Just had coffee with tipsy, she's crocheting hats (again). It's so nice to be home.

Just getting ready to go and see surgeon, I have about 6 foam islands stuck on my back and front trying to prevent leaks's so horrible and I feel mucky. Can't wait for a clean uP and redressing.

For anyone thinking of the LD flap,surgery, please don't be put off by my experience ..... I have had very bad luck so I am told and the surgeon took a risk making me such a big boob from my own tissue, another girl in my ward who had the same done recovered so much quicker than me .... She had her mastectomy done two years ago..gringrin

smee Fri 25-Jan-13 09:57:59

Snowy journey was lovely. Not least because for once the train was warm and nicely quiet. Somehow I usually manage to sit near someone who's running their office from the train. I had Flat White from Costa, pain au raisin and a book have been meaning to read for an age. Was almost like going on holiday. Shame about the work meet at the other end though. grin

Hope you slept well and are okay HND. How's wound today??

Jane, will send no-snow vibes your way for tonight. I thought snow was stopping, not starting all over again.

Gig, I have a feeling Sauron would snaffle snacks or you'd get them half chewed. Must be annoying to feel so icky. Cooking seems a bit above and beyond.

Is your appt today, MAS? I think you said you'd rearranged for this week, so must be. Hope it's all positive. x

Ned, hope you've survived the week. You deserve a large glass of wine later.

Better get on. brew on for all. smile

smee Fri 25-Jan-13 10:24:38

x-posted HND. Hope it goes well today and the wounds stop oozing soon. I remember that feeling of sogginess. Not nice. hmm

topsyturner Fri 25-Jan-13 12:55:02

Just back from chaperoning a school trip of DDs .
It was a trip to a local Presbytarian church for a bible camp (or Pedestrian Church as DD called it ...)
I had to sit on my hands to stop myself having a full on row discussion on creationism ...

smee Fri 25-Jan-13 13:10:47

Blimey, I'd have found that tough too, Topsy. I'm not allowed to go on DS's trips as I am now officially embarrassing. grin

Gigondas Fri 25-Jan-13 13:46:12

I don't get invited as am unsuitable parent grin. I had a mate at school was strict baptist and didn't believe in it. She used to get excused from lessons . She was intelligent and very argumentative in all sorts of ways so I never saw why she would just blindly follow what bible said.

Mini gig proving herself a worthy priestess of sauron as is stealing my lunch.

Hope you are all cleaned up hnd.

PenisColada Fri 25-Jan-13 13:49:49

Yes surgery done. Cancer confirmed and I am minus a thyroid now.

Radioactive iodine treatment booked for 8 weeks. Very sore tired but feeling better than yesterday.

Gigondas Fri 25-Jan-13 13:52:12

thanks -glad you are done. Standing by with wine and handholding for your radioactive iodine.

You home now?

smee Fri 25-Jan-13 14:51:00

Well that's good you're through the op, Pen, though sorry it was confirmed. You must be feeling quite shaky. Talk as much as you want on here. Rest up xx

KurriKurri Fri 25-Jan-13 15:13:34

Pen - glad op is done, are you home? good luck for RI treatment, - I had that just over a year ago, so if you have any questions feel free to ask, and I will do my best to remember! - it wasn't as bad as I expected, just a bit of a nuisance being isolated.
Hope you start to feel better very soon xx

HND - hope you get rid of the soggy spongy stuff, or at least get clean spongy stuff supplied - its horrid when you feel yukky and can't do anything about it. Did you have the tummy flap thing or the one from your back ? (I'm hopefully having the tummy one this year, so very interested in your experience - don't worry about sparing the details, - I know there's always a chance of complications, but hopefully worth it in the end) Anyway feet up and wine for you I'd say - get that topsy to entertain you with her exotic dancing and bawdy songs. grin

I went to keep fit class today - and a photographer from the local paper came along and took photos, - so my giant arse will feature in the paper soon - hooray!

Waving to all xx

topsyturner Fri 25-Jan-13 15:27:16

Hooray for kks giant arse !
<wonders will it get an agent , entourage etc>

Welcome home Pen
Gentle hugs and plenty of fbs

Gigs - Sauron is proud of his acolyte , but wants to know where his cut is ???

PenisColada Fri 25-Jan-13 15:30:54

No still in hospital until calcium levels normal. Guess I will be here till tomorrow now. They came and did an ECG at midnight frightened me to death.
Have a clear dressing on my neck which is very gruesome.

Thanks kurri will be asking you about the radioactive treatment soon. Will be great to get the lowdown from someone who has been through it.

Just face timed the dc's as set up wifi hotspot through my phone . Lifesaver and I will be able to use it when I am in isolation.

HerNextDoorAt21 Fri 25-Jan-13 15:58:29

Nice to hear from you Pen and glad that the surgery is all over for you now. You can start recovery.

I saw the surgeon and she is impressed with the improvement in the capillary return of the flap and got the reg in to have a good look too. She got a lovely nurse who loves dressings to come and give me a good wash and redress. They decided to put wound bags over the leaks to catch the drips and I feel SO MUCH cleaner though I rustle when I move lol.

Kk I had the LD flap (from back) surgery .... Apparently I was the wrong shape for tram flap and they we more confident of the back flap as they do not have to reconnect the blood supplies, they just send your back under a channel under your arm to the front ! Surgeon admitted today that she sat for a week with her fingers crossed whilst the leeches sorted out the blood supply as they though the flap was dying..

i had a tough time because of my overweighted ness and there was HIGH RISK slapped all over my file sad The leech therapy was because of the flap failing and the transfusion was because of blood loss during what was described as "very difficult surgery"and the leeches taking all my blood. I was unfortunate to get cellulitis around one of the drain sites and to get the infection and fever. I am still glad I had it all done and like I said earlier, don't let my bad luck out you off.

Imam being very well looked after by my DH and tipsy

Well done pen and hope you get out soon- take care smile
hnd am pleased that tipsy is looking after you - hope everything recovers v soon - it all sounds very dramatic.
Have an appalling headache as trying to sort out tax thing for doing work for Japanese newspaper- seem to have been on the phone for ages- I hate money stuff, my mind just shuts off.
Back from onc. via the Costa and the Gap (where I may have made some purchases) and Paperchase to buy lovely cards - always a great pleasure that shop.
Onc is booking a scan shock which I was expecting but still...
He says if the pulmonary nodules have shrunk or disappeared Topsy stylee then they will prob. keep me on my current meds as they can't rule out tiny metastases which are smaller than 1 cm and can't be seen on I could be doing this cycle continuously (some people have it for years until it doesn't work any more) I always feel am hopeless as describing how I feel and was trying to articulate about a discomfort in my chest which I think might be psychological possibly. I am sure he thinks I'm a little deranged and I get flustered and drop my scarf/gloves/coat. He did listen to my chest but breathing ok.
Drinkies time soon, after I've written to the Inland Revenue.

smee Fri 25-Jan-13 18:56:57

MAS, not surprised you have a headache! Scan's bound to be scary, but I'd guess will be good, as they've always said they'll do one and you'll anxt until you have one anyway. How do you feel about the idea of being on long term meds like that? I know this round's been a teeny bit easier due to reduced dose, but you must still be having side effects and feel wiped out.

HND, blimey that's a lot that didn't go to plan. Must have freaked you out a bit to hear Surgeon say that. though clearly just shows you're as tough as old boots grin

Waving to Pen in hospital. Are you in a lot of pain? Hope not. Hope too that you escape tomorrow. xx

Just back from after school pizza treat with a mum mate and our boys. Involved beer for us and pizza for them, which went down a treat. Will drink a toast to Kurri's forthcoming fame in a bit. grin

ongoing meds seems a bit irksome, but the last cycle was miles easier so I shouldn't really complain..could be worse !

amberlight Fri 25-Jan-13 20:28:29

Hello to all who are eek about scans, phew about being home, recovering from surgery, disowned by their offspring or otherwise.

I'm alright. Those who keep an eye out for info on longer term stuff after treatment, just over a year after rads were finished, and 18 mths after chemo stopped, I've still got sensory loss in my fingers but don't notice any more. Sense of balance is now well dodgy, but I've learned to compensate. Still have post-op pain in boob if I wear something uncomfy etc. Hair now shoulder length and wildly curly. But I'm starting to feel human again after a couple of eeek months of post-cancer stress thingy. and of course am still quite mad grin but I was to start with.

I shall leave out wine for all.

mad is good amber

HerNextDoorAt21 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:00:59

Mas I just requested to join the Facebook group please .... Lisa Hutchings

will whizz over and admit you grin

Welcome home hnd <wonders if I am repeating myself as I can't keep up>

grin at kurri and her photogenic posterior.

Waves at amber.

Lots of positive thoughts and good luck for your forthcoming scan mas. Hopefully this week of treatment will go as well as the last.

Still no results here. I am becoming more and more stressed as I feel if the results were ok the onc would have let me know and I fear he maybe didn't want to ruin my weekend. I have decided to phone next week if still no word.

PenisColada Fri 25-Jan-13 22:17:24

Ooh FB group can I join ?

thanks gracie - sorry you are waiting and fretting, hope you can get some comforting news.
pen of course you may- look for Tamoxifen Ten on fb and we'll invite you in grin

topsyturner Fri 25-Jan-13 23:30:54

Gracie I'm sure it's not bad news .
But me being sure isn't going to stop you worrying .
I think a phone call to your Onc is what's needed !

Mas they were going to keep me on chemo and herceptin indefinitely too .
Was told that as long as the drug combo was working , they would keep me on it .
Try to think of it as diabetic needing insulin .
Cos I know the thought of such harsh medicine long term is a little soul destroying .
Gracie told me that her chemo nurses had a patient that had been on herceptin for the past 8 years as it was still working for her !

DD is having her first friend for a sleep over in our house .
She's slept over at this friends house a number of times . But I've always resisted having them here .
I bit the bullet .
Took them to <whispers> MacDonalds , youth club . Then set up the air bed in her room , threw a bucket load of Haribo in there , and promptly buggered off to HNDs grin

I'm a good mum , I am ...

PenisColada Sat 26-Jan-13 02:50:32

Hope the sleepover is going well topsy

I have just been woken for my 2 am blood pressure check and can't get comfortable. I don't want to be knocked out as deep breathing and coughing are not good and don't want to wake up more stiff. Just hope when I get home I can find somewhere comfy to doze.

It is sinking in a bit that I have cancer. Cancer. Me . I have it. It had not really felt like it before. How am I supposed to feel ? I have no idea.

Sent request to FB group btw.

Gigondas Sat 26-Jan-13 07:49:12

It takes a while- I still struggle with it at times pen. If it helps you to rest do take a tablet as I find hospital a nightmare to sleep in. Would if help to get one of these pillow as can mould it to fit round your dressing? Amazon sell them too. Will ask my mum what she did to get comfy post op.

You are mother of the year topsy- sent you a friend request too hnd.

Gracie - I echo what others said to ring onc. I wouldn't read too much into not calling pre weekend as don't think they think about sparing bad news (in fact I think they are not allowed to).

Right ought to think about getting up as have fairy godmother (as she is known) coming for lunch with her two lovely boys. Leaving lemon tart and brew for those that need it.

Gigondas Sat 26-Jan-13 07:50:01

Also looks lack of sleep isn't going to help your mood pen- truism I know but it really makes a difference .

HerNextDoorAt21 Sat 26-Jan-13 09:39:53

I have accepted friend requests ladies smile

Gig, our fairy godmother left homemade tomato and basil soup and home made wheaten bread in a box on our doorstep early yesterday morning smile

Pen, I think taking one day at a time and going with your feelings of laughing or crying may be a temporary way forward.

As for sleeping, I am currently sleeping on my reclining sofa as I can only sleep on my back and find the bed too flat .... You will find a way.

Tipsy and I were quite restrained last night and managed to have a fairly early finish to our Friday Pub Night.

I have a friend visiting today who I visited in Spain when she was having chemo for breast cancer .... Really looking forward to it smile

topsyturner Sat 26-Jan-13 10:24:55

I may have finished pub night at HNDs early , but I may have had another glass when I got home !

Feeling pretty good about myself today .
Managed to semi straighten my Afro , I look verging on human !
I'm wearing a dress and I may even put mascara on !!!

Horse riding for DD soon .
Then some shopping for bits and pieces .

Anyone else doing anything exciting today ???

Pen I don't think I ever truly accepted the cancer diagnosis .
Mainly I think as I never really felt unwell with any of it .
I never had any of the side effects from chemo that some of the ladies here have had (well I was violently sick with the first one , but they gave me a syringe driver after that and I was fine)

Just be kind to yourself and allow your mind and body to adjust to your new normal , however long it takes .

smee Sat 26-Jan-13 11:03:54

Pen, I've never got my head round it either, but time does help. Hope you're not feeling too ropey today. Any news on when you can come home?

HND sounds like Dr Tipsy's leading you astray providing dedicated care. Have a great time with your friend. I will nip over to FB and wave at you. smile

Topsy, sleep-overs avoided here too so far. Hope DD not too grumpy through exhaustion. Well done on new human look, though mascara?! A step too far, surely? shock

Gracie, Onc calling isn't a bad thing. It could easily be that they haven't looked at your MRI results at all yet. Must be tough waiting though. Could you call on Monday if you haven't heard?

MAS, what Topsy says about wise. Must be quite something to get your head round though. Hope you're doing something nice this weekend. smile

Not much going on here. Sun's shining though, so that's mighty cheering. smile

PenisColada Sat 26-Jan-13 11:09:13

Sent request to join the Facebook group

NedSchneebly Sat 26-Jan-13 11:54:06

Morning all!

Hope everyone is OK this morning? Very cold here. but all of our snow has melted overnight - yay! I hate the bloody stuff, so am hoping that's the end of it for another year. . .

School pretty good this week - getting a bit easier and not so completely shattered. Did painting with my class on Thursday afternoon - aren't you proud of me?! Paper, paint, water and 17 excited 5-6 year olds! It was not complete carnage, so feeling a bit more confident that I can do stuff with them. Have worked out a management plan for the how to cope with the movement between group activities without everything descending in to chaos. Feeling a bit better about it all, I think smile Going on a course next Thursday, about teaching phonics. Not terribly thrilling, but venue does a good lunch apparently!

HND have sent you friend request. Hope you're doing OK today x x

pen give yourself time and be gentle to yourself. I am a year post-diagnosis, and am only now, with help from a counsellor, coming to terms with the new normal. There is no right or wrong answer about how to feel - whatever you feel is natural and fine. Take it one very small step at a time, and scream, shout, cry, go for a walk, whatever you feel like doing is what you should do. The emotional scars need as much care and attention as the physical ones - I am certainly finding the emotional fallout much harder to cope with than the physical effects. With the sleeping, work out a way of getting comfy, maybe with lots of cushions/ pillows to support your back. Maybe think about talking to your GP about having something to help you sleep? Just be kind to yourself and give it all time. I know that sounds really trite, but its true. stick with us too - we all know what its like. Sending you thanks and hugs x x xx

topsy I have no doubt that you are the picture of sartorial elegance. Hair pics on FB look great smile

gracie definitely phone onc next week if you haven't heard. I am sure they'll be used to people chasing their results. It's only natural to want to know what's going on. Got everything crossed that you can get through on Monday, and then you'll know what's what.

smee your train journey certainly sounds very relaxing. I love travelling by train, especially on my own! Hope meeting at the other end was productive and useful. I was at uni in Cardiff - have very fond memories of it as a city.

kurri Am sure your arse is not as ample as mine. Luckily no-one has ever attempted to take a picture of mine grin

MAS Have finally sent your cheque off - sorry blush blush blush blush blush Hope you are OK. When do you have to wait until for the scan? Thinking of you lots and lots x x

Epic post - will sign off now smile

PenisColada Sat 26-Jan-13 13:23:23

Staying in another night as my calcium levels not doing what they should.

pen - can't find your request -can you tell me which person with your real name is on fb so I can find you ? Sorry you're having to stay in another night sad
ned thanks in advance for cheque smile - am guessing the scan will be in a week or so-,def. before my next onc appointment.
A friend from way back is coming to tea today- have got crumpets,coffee swiss roll and other bits..known each other since A levels but haven't seen him for about 9 years or so -possibly longer. Taking him over to the old people as they were very fond of him.I daresay mum will remind him of the time he was staying the night and had to wear her nightdress.....

jchocchip Sat 26-Jan-13 15:20:44

Lol mas I love it when the old stories trot out.
Pain to have to stay in, pen hope u are sprung soon!
Our "Christmas do" was a bit smaller than expected, due to it being a "white Christmas" do! Three of us stayed out for a v nice meal in a Russian Restaurant, while several inches of snow fell! Cars were all over the road when we left. We naively thought that the trains would be running and luckily they did! We could have walked I suppose, about 3 miles to one friends house but glad we could get back to mine easily.

Copthallresident Sat 26-Jan-13 15:28:25

Pen I know what you mean, me? Cancer? It's something that happens to other people, not me. I felt part of the problem was that you had to deal with getting two Cancers. The first, the actual cancer, is the actual illness you have, probably virtually unique, and the treatments you have to endure to get rid of it. In fact everyone has that cancer since we all have cells going rogue all the time but usually your immune system mops them up, but for some reason, genetic? pollution? drugs? whatever? (but also probably unique to us) for some of us they get out of control somewhere in our body. The treatments are pretty shit, you get mutilated, poisoned and /or burnt but there are ways of coping and getting on with real life.

The other Cancer, the big C, is a whole parcel of people's perceptions about what Cancer is, what causes it, what a Cancer patient looks like, how they should behave, the dread, the stigma etc. and that is the Cancer that happens to other people. I found that the hardest thing to deal with because I had shared some of those perceptions, the dread and the stigma, but mostly they are a load of bunkum, totally at odds with the reality of your illness. Its annoying to encounter them in others but once you have come to terms with the reality it can be quite amusing too. I still get people telling me how strong I am, something that happened to me 11 years ago still defining their perceptions of me, in spite of all current appearances to the contrary, especially during 4am lying awake wibbly wobblys about nothing!!

Waves to everyone, must go, DH demanding I come look at some new things he can do with his remote......

pen I'm not sure I will ever get my head around my cancer diagnosis. It was the one thing I have dreaded since I was in my 20s. Hope your calcium levels settle and you get home soon.

Hope the sleepover wasn't too noisy topsy. Hair looks great by the way.

Glad your return to work is going well ned. I'm still off but my line runs out next month so can't put it off for ever.

Thank you all for putting up with my moaning about results. Onc phoned at lunchtime to say he was sorry he hadn't phoned earlier but he had been away and had just called into the office. MRI showed no change so he is happy that the bone thing is benign and nothing showed up on my liver so according to him 'we can put this to bed now'. Echo also showed no change so all set for herceptin next week. I am so very relieved.

jchocchip Sat 26-Jan-13 16:08:50

Brilliant news gracie wine

smee Sat 26-Jan-13 16:28:00

YAY FOR GRACIE!! wine wine That is totally brilliant. You must be on cloud nine. smile

Pen, that's a sod that they're keeping you in. Can they do anything to help with calcium levels? confused

Great to hear you're okay, Ned. Does sound like you're on the up now. <cautious I know>. smile

MAS grin at story about nightie, but coffee swiss roll?! shock That's just wrong. Has to be chocolate.

What are DH's new tricks with the remote, Copt? Can he balance it on his nose? I can do that with ours <shameless boast> grin

Just had v.sad call from close friend. Her SIL has 'probable' breast cancer. 38 with two children under 5. She's had core biopsy and gets results next week. Good timing to hear your news then, Gracie. That really has cheered me up. smile

Thanks smee and jchoc.

That is sad smee. My heart goes out to her and her little kiddies. Heart breaking. It really seems to be all you hear about.

I quite like coffee swiss roll although much prefer chocolate but must be coated with chocolate as well [fat pig smiley]

smee Sat 26-Jan-13 16:43:02

Are you going to celebrate, Gracie? Full fat swiss choc roll at the very least? smile

HerNextDoorAt21 Sat 26-Jan-13 17:42:14

Gracie so pleased to hear your news what a relief !

Mas I loved the nightie story too and I LOVE coffee Swiss roll !

Pen sorry you are having up stay in hospital.

HerNextDoorAt21 Sat 26-Jan-13 17:43:56

Smee so sorry to hear about your friend .... I saw so many young cancer patients in hospital .... It's scary sad

Yes celebrations in the gracie household. Champagne anyone???

fabulous news gracie -yay !!!!!!!!!
sad though for your friend smee - bugger.
Had the nicest time with my friend - nightie not mentioned - lots of cake and coffee swiss roll is yum. He bought me and mum huge bunches of flowers though dh has removed the lilies from my bunch as he's allergic to the pollen - bah !

Glad you had a nice time mas. I love flowers although have ruined so many clothes by forgetting to trim the lillies.

KurriKurri Sat 26-Jan-13 18:45:49

yay for gracie!! gringrin and phew - celebrations tonight I'm guessing smile

Smee - so sorry about your friend, - so many young people seem to get this illness - I hope everything goes well for her and she makes a good recovery.

MAS - glad you had a nice day with your friend, -love the nightie story grin - and I love coffee swiss roll - I haven't had any for years <goes all misty eyed and nostalgic>

Pen - I am four and half years from DX and I still haven't got my head round the fact that I've had cancer, - every so often it creeps up and hits me like a ton of bricks, and its scary. It will take time, - you get so caught up in the treatment, tests, surgery and you kind of hold yourself together to get through it, but afterwards when you get a moment to reflect is when it can be hard. And being in hospital in that clinical environment brings it home a bit. xx

HND - hope you had a fun day with your friend, and that you are feeling less squelchy today.

Ned - well done for getting another week at work under your belt - you are doing well my lovely. My arse will be doing a sell out tour this summer, and signing autographs on this thread. - I did notice the photographer had to keep changing the lens in his camera - I am suspecting wide angle was needed.

A friend of mine who was due to have her reconstruction last week (after her first date was cancelled) got a call to say her plastic surgeon fell in the snow and broke her elbow - so can't do any ops for a few months - the weather has a lot to answer for!

I did an hour of power yoga this morning (from a DVD featuring Rodney Yee - yes that's right, the famous Rodney Yee who? who?) it was pretty energetic but quite good fun. Old lady dog kept trying to lie down and go to sleep on my yoga mat - she is not a fan of old Rodney it seems.

Love to all xx

gracie am drinking your health tonight with a delicious margarita (hic!)

Gigondas Sun 27-Jan-13 10:23:49

That's brilliant gracie smilesmilesmilegrin hope you have a sore head.

brew Anyone? Dh taken big gig swimming while I wait on a teething mini gig.

Copthallresident Sun 27-Jan-13 12:23:56

smee <very impressed at remote juggling skills> I have absolutely no idea what DH can do with remote, whenever he talks to me about computer or remote, actually remotes, there are 4 of them confused all I can hear is blah blah blah. So I just muddle through randomly pressing buttons and hope for the best..... I think he could probably achieve world domination with them, which possibly explains need for remote domination......

It is horrible to hear of yet another young woman with Cancer, I was the oldest in my little support group, at 43 , and we all had young children. Grr. Hope it is a easily treatable one.

gracie more good news! smile

pen hope they let you out today, hospitals are very depressing places

hnd hope boob has stopped dribbling, and is settling down to it's undoubted ultimate awesomeness. Friend had problem with bit of flap dying , actually killed off by chemo , but it is lovely now. They did not bring in the leeches though, they would have sorted it!! Did you see my post that my lovely horse played role in early use of leeches to control infection, back in 70s, vet wrote papers on him and everything. He went on to gallop the moors for decades, are you feeling frisky???

Happy Sunday morning, oops afternoon to everyone

PenisColada Sun 27-Jan-13 19:22:51

I am home. Have enough pills to sink a ship as my ca levels still low. Have not slept properly at all in hospital. Very tired.

It is hitting me now that I have something wrong with me so emotionally pretty wobbly too.

Copthallresident Sun 27-Jan-13 19:53:35

Pen I hope you get a good night's sleep, it's a really tough time, operations leave you depressed anyway, as well as putting your illness centre stage and in your face. However, honestly you will get through this, and you will smile again. There really is life after Cancer, lots of it! Including champagne and smoked salmon for Sunday tea (hic!) on the trolley....

jchocchip Sun 27-Jan-13 20:34:09

Lost my post sad
Really glad you are home, pen you will be able to rest now you are in your own bed.
I've just about recovered from my Friday night out in time for work tomorrow...