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I think I have norovirus

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Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Thu 27-Dec-12 19:19:33

Hello all

I spent most of last night in the bathroom, or lying on the floor holding my poor stomach. I'm now exhausted and have been able to keep down liquids and a cream cracker. Needless to say I feel like shit...

Any tips for a swift recovery?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Thu 27-Dec-12 20:35:38

Rest, fluids as and when you can manage them. Try ice lollies as they sit easier on the stomach. Thorough hand washing and airing the bathroom between episodes will reduce risk of passing it on.
Sadly you have to accept it will take a while for it to leave your system! Hope you feel better soon.

wearingpurple Thu 27-Dec-12 20:39:14

I thought I had norovirus on Christmas Eve, but it ended up passing through within 24 hours - like you, I was sick all night, tired and unhungry all day but after a good night's sleep I was much better.

Still feel weird after eating, though, a couple of days later and haven't dug into a lot of the Christmas food yet.

Hopefully you'll have this milder thing, like I (and most of my family) did.

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Thu 27-Dec-12 21:13:01

Thanks smile I hope it's the milder thing too. I've eaten a tiny bit of plain yoghurt and a cream cracker but think that was a bad idea - my stomach is making ominous noises...

QuickLookBusy Fri 28-Dec-12 13:27:33

Hope you're feeling better soon Sunny.

Can I ask how it started? I've been feeling nauseous all day and am worried its the start of something.

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Fri 28-Dec-12 13:37:32

Hi Quick

I started feeling a bit 'odd' - then a few hours later the vomming started. I hope that's not the case for you?

I'm feeling somewhat better today, thankfully. My temperature seems normal and I haven't been sick or other since last night. My abdominal muscles ache though and I have zero appetite, and I'm knackered.

NuclearStandoff Fri 28-Dec-12 14:54:52

Take to your bed and don't try and do anything.

It should pass quickly - 24 to 36 hours, but you will feel crap the whole of the time.

Keep your fluid intake up and keep a bucket handy.

FlatCapAndAWhippet Fri 28-Dec-12 15:30:08

Dont eat anymore yoghurt, dairy feeds sickness viruses.

It took me about a week to get over it, I was exhausted and that stayed with me, I just laid on the sofa for about five days but I didnt get my apetite back properly for about a month.

Its grim.

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Fri 28-Dec-12 15:56:01

I've had a cream cracker today - it feels like I've eaten a huge meal!

I'm on the sofa with MN, a book and a blanket. All bases covered smile

1944girl Fri 28-Dec-12 16:13:36

I had a nasty attack two weeks ago.It has completly ruined my Christmas.I still feel half dead and have no proper appetite.

Zavi Fri 28-Dec-12 16:22:21

Unless you're alone you need to concern yourself with making sure that you don't pass whatever it is that you have on to someone else!

Must bugs are spread by either droplet or skin contact. Either way make sure that you are careful about contact, cleaning surfaces and absolutely fastidious about hand-washing - properly - throughout the day, not just after using the toilet.

Avoid prepping food for others whilst you're still unwell and don't go out until symptom free for at least 24 hr to avoid spreading to others.

doublechocchip Fri 28-Dec-12 17:07:38

I had it last week, was horrible. I got dh to get some real orange juice ice lollies from M&S think they're made with Valencia OJ? They helped me feel miles better!

Willdoitinaminute Fri 28-Dec-12 17:18:57

Started 3am Boxing Day was able to eat a little after 24 hrs but still have no appetite. Have cooked for friends coming round tonight but no idea whether it tastes ok as have not been able to stomach testing it. Friends have already had virus so will be fine.
Advice online says that not infectious until you start vomiting then spores can hang around for up to 5 days so keep hand washing. Disinfectants do not work just need to wash anything contaminated in a 60 wash or under running water for a while.
Like most mums I suspect that recovery slowed by the holiday effect. When everyone else is on holiday it's twice the work for mum.
My DH suggested I clear out the garage today! I just hope he gets it for New Year.

hanikam Fri 28-Dec-12 17:20:27

feeling a bit annoyed that we have to visiting tomorrow.....to family who have had the norovirus this week! Will take dettol surface spray, wipes, face mask. Any other tips?

TheWave Fri 28-Dec-12 17:35:21

If you have 2 loos/bathrooms try and keep one for the infected, and the others use the other one.

Lots of wiping of door handles etc with disinfectant-type stuff.

toldmywrath Fri 28-Dec-12 17:48:24

I would try not to visit the family who've had the norovirus. Absolutely sure they would understand. Can it not be postponed at all?

Longfufu Fri 28-Dec-12 17:49:20

Do not gulp water, your body will reject it. My dr recommended taking a teaspoon of water ever 2 mins, once you feel you can handle this take 2 tsp of water every 4 mins and so on. Soon as you can stomach dyrolite, lucazade, flat coke start drinking these.

My family had it and it only lasted for 24 hours for us. Get well soon x

BlackAffronted Fri 28-Dec-12 17:53:39

My Dh and 2 of my DC have had it, one after the other since Christmas day sad Just me & DD left, waiting to see if we get it.

MotherOfTheBritishEmpire Fri 28-Dec-12 18:00:28

I wouldn't visit a family who have have had it in the last few days.

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 28-Dec-12 18:01:26

Hanikam - don't go, honestly. Postpone the visit.

AndiMac Fri 28-Dec-12 18:05:58

To try and avoid passing it on or catching it, wash your hands lots and wash them like you are prepping to do surgery.

For recovering, really mild foods, like a freshly weaned baby. Orange juice is pretty acidic and I wouldn't recommend it or any other juice in the early stages of recovery.

hooper02 Fri 28-Dec-12 18:28:15

Wokhe up myself with stomach bug this morning, not sure if norovirus as no vomiting but diarrhoea, chills and extreme tiredness. All I can say is thanks to my 10yr old dd who has been looking after me her 6 yr old ds as my dh went away yesterday to see his dm who is ill. plenty of sleep(can't stay awake for m ore 11/2 hours) fluids and hand washing here.

Panadbois Fri 28-Dec-12 18:30:37

Three out of five of us have had it here.Does that mean DS and I will definitely get it?

BoffinMum Fri 28-Dec-12 19:22:22

Why is norovirus so prevalent these days? What has changed?

roundabout1 Fri 28-Dec-12 19:32:24

It used to be called gastric flu & I remember having a fewChristmas's ruined by it when I was a teenager after germy kids infected us! Wonder if its worse now as we rely on anti bacterial gels & sprays rather than hand washing & bleach for cleaning as we used to.

Marne Fri 28-Dec-12 19:40:16

I'm a bit shock at the fact people cary on socialising when they are still contagous and even prepareing food (which is the easiest way to pass on noro virus), i would be very pissed off if i was invited to someones house and served food by someone who was recovering from noro.

Does no one listen to the advice on the news? (stay away from others for 72 hours).

I do think it has been made worse by the use of anti bac spray and gels, sadly they dont kill noro but they do wipe out all the bacteria on your hands that would help to fight of noro virus if you were to come into contact with it.

roundabout1 Fri 28-Dec-12 19:52:45

"marne" - I think that its so commonly assumed that anti bac stuff works on everything. It was only a few months ago I realised it didnt.

I would hate to think I'd infected others especially as if its noro it can be such a nasty virus for some.

ProudAS Fri 28-Dec-12 21:30:28

Bleach kills it on surfaces.

It's also a good idea to put the loo lid down when flushing to avoid sending traces of the virus round the bathroom and potentially onto toothbrushes.

Ninetyninepercent Fri 28-Dec-12 22:01:50

Bleach is the gold standard for killing noro on surfaces. Apparently Dettox Antiseptic spray with xylitol can have variable results too (ie sometimes will work, sometimes doesn't - so hardly ideal).

For the person that cooked food for friends while contagious - noro is a bit like the flu virus, in that there are various different strains. So although its quite likely that your friends had the same strain of noro, its not necessarily a given. So they might catch your strain. Plus, you only have immunity from noro for 14 weeks, and after that time you could catch the same strain again - so if they had a while ago, then they would still be at risk from your bugs.

As for the OPs query - my MIL just had this. She found flat coke quite good. She had awful vomiting, then quite severe diarrhoea with lots of bloaty belly as soon as she ate something. I wondered (but couldn't get any) whether Deflatine might've been good to try. It gets rid of abdominal gas and so might be good for noro recovery? I also read (not sure how true) that some people get a bit lactose intolerant after noro so maybe worth avoiding dairy products. My MIL seemed to find that after every night's sleep that passed she felt immensely better. Hope you feel better soon.

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Fri 28-Dec-12 22:06:48

I've been a bit better today - I've kept a small amount of food down and am drinking slowly but well. I've got pain where I strained muscles the other night, which is annoying.

SquidgyMummy Sat 29-Dec-12 03:02:40

DP took a pillow and duvet to the bathroom and slept on the floor, he was running to the loo that often and exhausted.

He had it on and off for 10 days as his IBS flared up. In the end he took immodium to stop the diarrhea as he was going so often. (Not sure if this would be good for others)

HE was constantly drinking lucozade, tea and then eased back with some tomato soup and instant noodles was his first solid meal.

I had it back in October and all I wanted to do was sleep, it is so draining. Best advice is to try and get some one to help with DCs and shut your bedroom door and once the running to the loo has stopped; sleep to receover.

nannyof3 Sat 29-Dec-12 03:09:27

Wouldnt say norovirus.. More like d&v

SydneyB Sat 29-Dec-12 08:48:21

It has completely ruined our Xmas... DH got it on Xmas Eve and then me, DD & DS got it on Xmas day. We shifted it in 24/36 hrs but DH is STILL in bed, not sure why he is suffering far more than us but wondering about forcing him to GP or is that a bad idea?

Tailtwister Sat 29-Dec-12 08:48:31

I had d&v on Christmas day, but don't know if it was the norovirus.

We were at PIL's with elderly relatives visiting for lunch, so I quarantined myself to the spare room/bathroom. It was depressing to miss the festivities, but tbh I wouldn't have enjoyed it and I couldn't risk passing it onto the GGP's who would probably end up if hospital with it.

I also like flat coke or lemonade in the recovery period. Water before that.

I still feel very washed out, but stopped being sick after about 24h.

seasonsyule Sat 29-Dec-12 12:46:38

I had it Boxing Day after trip to a furniture store.

I drank boiled water at first but realised that was just going through me too so settled with 48hrs of no drink or food and then after 20hrs of no symptoms (except stomach cramps, head woozy etc) was able to eat a dry slice of burnt toast yesterday (charcoal good for these type of things). and hot water with sugar in. Still feel woozy and not eating very much. But keeping fluids down and drinking peppermint tea is soothing now. Slept most of it had no energy. Isolated myself, seperate bathroom etc to stop spread to other family members lucky my mum here to look after my ds!

whats4teamum Sat 29-Dec-12 13:10:38

I am supposed to be hosting dinner party tonight. Feel achy, hot/cold, tired and faintly nauseous. Do I go ahead as not been sick yet just well below par. GRRRRRh .

redwellybluewelly Sat 29-Dec-12 13:16:23

There was a thread a whole back about noro and stomach bugs and general consensus was stomach bug you feel tired but stop feeling sick etc 24 hours after started. Noro hits you like a ton of bricks and can take weeks to get over.

I remember having stomach bugs around this time of year, never made it to a nativity play in school!

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Sat 29-Dec-12 13:24:32

I've stopped being sick (hurrah!) but feel absolutely washed out, and I can't / don't want to eat very much. Thankfully, my temperature has returned to normal.

I've had a boiled egg and a bit of bread today which is my biggest meal since boxing day.

I'm not sure if it's noro or 'just' d&v, either way I'm being more careful than usual about handwashing etc.

seasonsyule Sat 29-Dec-12 13:27:24

I have had viral symptoms (still have) for 6 days before any D&V and I believe they are both unrelated...just caught the D&V after going to a busy place ( as was not out for 5 days before due to ?chest infection/high temp...so you may just have a viral infection and need to get another person to cook and self medicate whiskey hot water and spoon sugar helps sleep at night!

Mind you ds was diagnosed as whooping cough beginning of December and had 'viral' symptoms and although antiB's finished he was vomiting for 3 days over xmas too and he is still unwell 21 days now for poor ds.

Maybe you should cancel whats4 people will understand just for 24 hours to see how you are?

NanaNina Sat 29-Dec-12 19:13:49

I had a mild attack about 3 weeks ago but I felt washed out for a week. I remember a GP telling me that when we have an infection or virus, our body uses its energy to fight the infection/virus which is why we feel so shattered.

Now have chest infection.........ho hum.........Happy New Year!!

BlackAffronted Sat 29-Dec-12 20:07:46

DH still suffering, DD & Ds completely over it. Me & other DD still fine .... are we likely to get it though? Or do you think the "danger period" has passed?

BirdyArms Sat 29-Dec-12 20:27:59

I think I had it a few days before Christmas, I was very violently sick anyway. Four days later I though I'd recovered and went out for a big christmas lunch with friends, I didn't eat or drink as much as I would have done normally but it was still way too much for my recovering stomach. I was up all that night with stomach cramps and then had the runs and felt rotten for the next couple of days. So I would say be extremely gentle to your stomach for at least a week after any sickness has gone. DS also had it the same time as I did, though wasn't as sick, but he is still eating a lot less than he normally does.

I've also been taking probiotics, I was sick down to bright green bile a couple of times and so I think that they might help my stomach get back to normal.

try actimel or yakult for the recovery phhase and when you are in the grips of it small sips of rehydration salts. another good tip passed on by a distict nurse is boiled egg as they bind you up GOOD LUCK

roundabout1 Sat 29-Dec-12 22:36:00

Even better than yakult is probiotic powder as sometimes dairy can irritate the tummy after a bug, or the capsules. My friend was advised by a nurse practitioner to avoid dairy for up to a week if poss as sometimes it can make this worse again.

DH has something like this. Yesterday he felt lousy all day then started with the squits last night. Then that stopped, he has spent today on the settee but nothing much happening. then tonight he started being sick, and has the squits really badly again. confused

NanaNina Sun 30-Dec-12 00:31:08

You just have to wait for it to pass, as there is no medication that will help. Need rest, sips of water but no food while diarrhoea as this stimulates the bowel and there will be more of the d word. You need to be careful as you can about not catchingit. Don't drink out of the same cups/glasses/give him his own towel, and wash your hands and swab down worksurfaces etc. Mind I think it's airborne anyway so all the care in the world might not prevent it spreading.

Apparently it's 80% up on last year and previous years and there does not seem to be a reason for it, or at least they haven't found one.

pinkyp Sun 30-Dec-12 00:36:23

Plenty of sleep, once you've stopped being sick plenty of water but drank in little sips. If thst stays down maybe try eating something like ready salted crisps and a banana etc, rest as much as possible

bergedorf Sun 30-Dec-12 10:29:21

So should we avoid these families?

We are on holiday for New Year with 2 other families. They are sharing a house and we are around the corner.

We had supper with them last night. This morning they rang to say 2 of them had been sick in night with suspected norovirus.

Is there any point in avoiding them all or are we likely to be infected already?

On NHS website it says people are infectious when they start feeling ill.

Does this mean we could go on a walk this afternoon with the ones who aren't ill?

Or aibu for trying to avoid catching it given that we've spent an evening with them already?

Obviously I'd rather my family didn't catch it!

(We all live in the same town so this isn't a great big reunion or anything, but at the same time the kids were looking forward to be together.)

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Hi berge. If it were me I would just carry on as normal TBH. You could catch it from going shopping, if the children were at school they could be catching it there.

A walk with the well doesn't seem too risky to me, is it possible it was something the two of them ate/drank and not Norovirus anyway?

bergedorf Sun 30-Dec-12 10:38:13

I don't think it's something they ate as kids and adults had separate meals at different times.

It's just awkward. They were supposed to be coming to our house for supper tonight! ( obvs not the ones who are ill! But are they infectious because theyvshareca house with people who are ill?)

bergedorf Sun 30-Dec-12 10:39:12

Sorry .. Share a house with people who are ill.

AndiMac Sun 30-Dec-12 10:39:27

I'd agree that if it's just the people who feel healthy who are along for the walk, there's no reason not to go along.

But I would make sure everyone in my family washed their hands the second they got back.

AndiMac Sun 30-Dec-12 10:41:17

Hmm, having them over for dinner might give me second thoughts. If you can word it gracefully for them to come over later in the holiday, I think that would be best. But it's tricky.

I think the walk is fine, but understand you not wanting to host tonight. But there's a chance that nobody else has it/will get it. Tricky.

DH is still feeling awful, but I have to go out today because we need some stuff. I am thinking of keeping my gloves on in the supermarket

bergedorf Sun 30-Dec-12 10:49:58

So sparkling is that because you might be carrying the virus even though you're not feeling ill?

So i think DH is on about fourth day of this. Last couple of days have been particularly bad. He can't eat or really drink anything. But he hasn't vomited.

I'm not getting any sleep either because he is up all night. Feel really sorry for him, he can't enjoy anything. We were going to go to see Life of Pi today and have a little party to go to NYE but he's too poorly.

I'm worried because if i get it there will be no one to help with kids. My mother is useless and a massive hypochondriac.

Any other tips?

AndiMac Sun 30-Dec-12 12:25:18

If he's keeping you awake at night, I would sleep in the guest room or on the couch to get a more restful sleep. Being run down will make you more vulnerable to getting it or any other bug going.

Bertrude Sun 30-Dec-12 16:32:28

I'm definitely coming down with something. <vom emoticon>

Spent yesterday afternoon using both toilet and bidet blush with horrific stomach cramps. Then realised that the cramps were also the start of a particularly nasty AF, and today there have been a few more toilet dashes.

Hoping it's just a bug and that the majority of the pain was monthly pain. It's now been2 hours since I have vomited. Sleeping the the spare room tonight so that whatever I have, he doesn't get. No point us both being ill for NYE.

Anyway, no advice, just joining in the 'I feel shit' party.

Sunnywithshowers Sun 30-Dec-12 16:37:20

Oh no! I hope all the poorly people get well soon.

I'm still not 100% but was able to go out today.

BeckAndCallWithBoughsOfHolly Sun 30-Dec-12 19:24:05

Has anyone else got stomach pains so badly you can't think straight? My symptoms started at 4am this morning and I feel sick, but haven't been, but I did have diarrhoea this morning - but nothing since 10 ish (completely empty, I guess).

But the pain is horrendous, all over my abdomen, not just one place - really sore, rather than cramps.

fannywetleg Sun 30-Dec-12 20:39:44

Had to deal with Noro a couple times - DS goes to Nursery and picks up all sorts of germs. My tips are wash everyone's hands a lot, clean and DRY off surfaces (plain hot soapy water is fine and all that hospitals clean with), keep drinking as much as you can in small amounts, but most of all - and this is the reason it keeps going round and round - stay away from everyone else until you have been clear of vomiting and diarrhoea for 48 hours. People send their DC's back to our Nursery too soon and pass it on!!

I do hope everyone who has it feels better soon - it such a horrid bug - my little one ended up dehydrated and in hospital with one episode!

ProudAS Sun 30-Dec-12 22:14:02

We obsess about this 48 hour rule but I'd be interested to know how many adults would feel well enough to return to work this quickly anyway - based on my experience not many although I'm not a dr.

I realise it may be different with kids though as they often bounce back more quickly.

devilinside Sun 30-Dec-12 22:34:45

Norovirus and D & V (with accompanying fatigue and flu like symptoms) are the same. How badly you get it depends on your immunity. If you haven't had it for years, it is likely to knock you for six and last a week. If you get it regularly, it will be much more mild and over in 24 hrs. Sometimes, you don't even vomit with it (DP never does - just stomach cramps and D for him)

Ninetyninepercent Sun 30-Dec-12 22:35:48

I guess some people can may get it more mildly so would easily feel like they were well enough. But whether your symptoms are mild you probably would still be as highly contagious to others for the same period of time as if you had had it severely.

I posted on this on Xmas Eve - my MIL came down for Xmas thinking she was 48h post vomit, and was feeling well enough to do a 2h drive and the day after she had stopped being sick she went out to a shop. But it transpired she wasn't 48h symptom free at all as she still had fairly severe diarrhoea (going to loo about every hour on Xmas eve) so was still highly infectious. But felt fine enough to drive and go out and about.

devilinside Sun 30-Dec-12 22:39:07

I think that's the main problem. People need to isolate themselves when they have the post norovirus Diarrhoea. Most of them don't bother as they feel fine by this stage.

BeQuicksieorBeDead Sun 30-Dec-12 22:39:49

I had it in November - I couldn't go to work for a week. It started on Sunday night, felt a bit iffy but in usual Quicksie style, I never miss a meal and forced my tea down. The stomach cramps were AMAZING - they hurt so much. I rang NHS direct as I was convinced it had to be more than a stomach bug, it felt like someone was stabbing me with a rusty pitchfork! The nurse who answered said it sounded all too familiar.
My cramps lasted 48 hours, in that time I only ate ice lollies and drank as much lucozade as I could (after a childhood of being brainwashed that lucozade is for ill people) After that I was just completely shattered, wobbly on my feet and had a headache for a couple of days.
Don't go back to work until you feel like yourself again - it isn't worth it.

BeQuicksieorBeDead Sun 30-Dec-12 22:41:22

Oh yeah and if it is noro, you can smell it - it has a particular sweet fragrance! Well, in my experience anyway, I work in a nursery unit.

Jux Mon 31-Dec-12 02:20:36

I had it about 3 weeks ago. Started early Monday morning - about 5am - and I was actively ill, unable to take water even, until Tuesday evening, when I could take small sips. By Wed I could nibble at cream crackers. Once I started getting better I recovered quite fast. I was OK with dairy - the first thing I ate properly was a large carton of live natural yoghurt: I had been fantasising about it for 2 days!

I was still wiped out for over a week, though.

Hope you recover quickly.

CrunchyFrog Mon 31-Dec-12 04:50:51

We have had very strange transmission here - people at work had it, I didn't but DC 3 was wiped out for days, then DN, then XMIL. Nobody else in either house! Waiting to get it since I was actually puked on by DC3 but it's been 10 days.
Hope you feel better OP smile

Sunnywithshowers Mon 31-Dec-12 11:01:20

One of the people I was with on Xmas day has now got it, but no-one else. My DH hasn't got it despite him having been with me for days.

I'm almost back to normal, but can't eat normally - I ate bland chicken casserole last night and feel a bit blah this morning. I'm also really tired.

OhyouMerryLittleKitten Mon 31-Dec-12 11:13:01

Tell me, what do you think about someone who insists on travelling long distance when they have what is thought to be noro? Especially when they insist that they weren't contagious because they washed their hands well, despite numerous loo stops?

OComeAllYeFaithBaby Mon 31-Dec-12 11:15:16

Merry I think they're bonkers! I did not want to venture any further than bed to bathroom when I was still productive and then sofa for a few days after. They will be contagious until 48 hours clear.

OhyouMerryLittleKitten Mon 31-Dec-12 11:19:22

They are under the impression that somehow they are not contagious because of good hygiene. I couldn't travel further than the loo with my bout and mine was a mild dose.

Sunnywithshowers Mon 31-Dec-12 11:22:20

I stayed indoors for 48 hours after I was clear of symptoms. I'd hate to pass it on to anyone.

CarlingBlackMabel Mon 31-Dec-12 13:02:11

what do you think about someone who insists on travelling long distance when they have what is thought to be noro? Especially when they insist that they weren't contagious because they washed their hands well

Selfish in the extreme, irresponsible in fact, because Noro can be catstrophic in frail people, and frankly, rather thick if they think handwashing prevents droplet infection.

Imagine if you personally infect 5 people and they each infect 5 an so on: that's a lot of pain, illness, family occasions ruined, working days lost, paid-for outings wasted.... I wish I believed in hell, for stupid selfish people like that!

Dh still ill. He's lost about 4 pounds and is really fed up now. He hasn't eaten anything at all all weekend and just been having DIORALYTE.

He is staying at home tonight and we are going to a friend's for New Year. As he started with this, the stomach pains etc Thursday i thought he might be a bit better by now but i think it's going to take a week.

Oh and there is no way he could even make it out the door. He is in the bathroom most of the time.

chipstick10 Mon 31-Dec-12 14:34:54

I am absolutely paranoid about getting it, quite frantic actually. We as a family had the tummy bug in the summer (end of June) and that was bad enough but from what I have been reading this sounds horrific. I'm scared when I'm shopping in case I pick it up.

Marne Mon 31-Dec-12 14:42:10

I'm petrified of getting it too, am dreading the dd's going back to school with this evil bug about sad, we have had it before and although it was horrid it did not last long (with me anyway, lasted longer with the dd's), dd2 ended up in hospital 2 years ago after being sick for 4 days (couldn't even keep water down). When dd2 gets sick she stops drinking and often ends up in hospital sad.

I think its very important that if you do get noro you stay in until at least 48 hours without d&v, even if you think you havn't been that poorly it may effect others differently and could be dangerous to those with other health conditions. If everyone stuck to the 48 hour rule and washed there hands more then there would not be half as many cases of noro.

chipstick10 Mon 31-Dec-12 14:56:30

I agree. Dd was working with a girl who had it on Thursday and was back at work on Saturday. She then proceeded to vomit at work.angrywtf?

ProudAS Mon 31-Dec-12 16:39:38

I don't know about your DD's employer chipstick but where I work they dock our pay when we are off sick thus encouraging us to go back before we should. Hygiene has prevented d&v outbreaks so far although a flu type bug did the rounds in March.

ProudAS Mon 31-Dec-12 17:00:38

I've found some interesting articles from around the world. Apparently some people can still be shedding it several weeks later so hygiene is the key to prevention.

http://www.handwashingforlife.com/files/Norovirus_Study.pdf
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/content/F2A4C351C705B6C6CA257783000C24CA/$File/norovirus-guidelines.pdf

Turn away now if you are squeamish - "Norovirus transmission occurs through a variety of routes but is primarily person-to-person spread by the faecal-oral route, contact with contaminated surfaces and transmission via aerosolised vomit."

ProudAS Mon 31-Dec-12 17:02:46

No evidence of infection occurring in the respiratory tract though according to Australian article

EndoplasmicReticulum Mon 31-Dec-12 18:00:04

My husband's company don't pay sick pay, so he and his colleagues do a lot of "dragging themselves in". Schools suggest a 48 hour rule, but then give awards for 100% attendance and start sending stroppy letters if attendance drops below a certain percentage.

I'd have thought the transmission would be slower over Christmas as children aren't at school. We went out shopping today, was looking at everyone milling about thinking they were all potential plague carriers!

ProudAS Tue 01-Jan-13 09:42:23

Try not to worry endoplasmic - you could slip and break your ankle at the sales or get run over crossing the road but you don't seem so bothered about that.

Most infections are via the faecal oral route so if you want to be extra careful only eat food that you have prepared and thoroughly heated yourself.

BlackBagFestiveBaubleBinLiner Tue 01-Jan-13 09:54:00

I understand that people don't want to miss out from social events but due to one local family's casual attitude to hygiene we've had a dreadful fortnight.

The aunt had an exploding arse 24th but still went to the pub on xmas day when the neice vomited over table. DH caught in aerosolised vomit.

We isolate our selves DH recovers, family invite us to birthday party. Aunt is happily arranging tea, dipping finger in homous, all very Nigella then announces she's still got the shits. My DD goes down via faecal-oral route.

My hands and dry and cracked from all the handwashing and cleaning thats gone on round here,the washing machine is exhusted and entertaining as I find these friends we can't ringfence a week to recover.

I am seriously pissed off.

Sunnywithshowers Tue 01-Jan-13 14:49:09

Blackbag that sounds terrible.

Ninetyninepercent Tue 01-Jan-13 15:20:33

I think you've got to try and keep things in perspective though. Although its 85% up on this time last year, with over a million confirmed cases, that still only equates to 1-2% of the population (by my albeit terrible maths - 1M cases/62M population x 100). Obviously there will be many more unconfirmed cases, but even if it were 10 times more actual cases then that would equate to 10% of the population - so 9 out of 10 people will not get it. If you think about it in those terms its not too bad.

Saying that....I really do think peope should stick by the 48h rule and not pop to the shops, or socialise or whatever until they are symptom-free for the full 48h. And then be very vigiliant with hygiene for a week after. My MIL travelled to us for Xmas after she'd stopped chucking up for 48h, but was still in the throes of diarrhoea. I think she thought she'd wouldn't be contagious to us as she always washes her hands after going to the loo. But the thing is as it is so highly contagious if you're not absolutely meticulous with hand washing and other hygiene measures you can still pass it on. Its not just people with poor hygiene standards that get, and pass on, noro. We were lucky and didn't catch anything - I was meticulous with bleaching toilets/bathrooms/door handles/other surfaces, towel changes, etc, and she was meticulous with hand washing too.

When you're out and about I would try to get into the habit of not touching your face with your hands, and washing your hands once you come back into the house, and certainly before eating. However, its all a bit random, as I just let my DC be DC - try to discourage them from stuffing random stuff in their mouths, washing their hands before eating and possibly after coming home from school, but otherwise, I think I'd do more harm than good getting them to be OTT about hygiene. That said, I do try and avoid soft play areas - but if they're invited to a party at one, its fine for them to go and have fun.

EndoplasmicReticulum Tue 01-Jan-13 16:32:56

Proud - I'm not worried - there's no chance of us escaping because children are back at school next week - and I'm a teacher. It's inevitable really.

EndoplasmicReticulum Tue 01-Jan-13 16:34:45

Ninetynine - most of the times we've had D+V it's been a couple of days after visiting soft play. May just be a coincidence. May not!

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Tue 01-Jan-13 16:46:48

Confirmed cases are only 3,500 (ish) based on laboratory testing but it is suspected that for every confirmed case there are 288 unconfirmed cases which gives the figure of over one million cases.

Dancergirl Wed 02-Jan-13 00:00:43

FGS, I can't believe the attitude of some people. If you've got it or have had it, DO NOT visit people or host visitors and don't prepare food! No wonder it's spreading like wildfire. No matter if its awkward to un-invite people, better to do that than infect your whole family.

CarlingBlackMabel Wed 02-Jan-13 10:10:54

Blackbag, Poor you. I would be saying something to your family. What selfish idiots. Yucky behaviour, too.

ProudAS Wed 02-Jan-13 22:13:07

On the plus side getting infected a few times boosts your immunity.

AmonRa1 Fri 19-Dec-14 11:00:04

Sorry to drag this old thread up but...

In the early hours of Sunday/ Monday morning my friend was really ill (vomiting) and was for most of the day. She ached all over and didn’t go to work the Monday or the Tuesday. She’d stopped vomiting by the Monday evening, just ached the rest of the Monday and Tuesday and was back in work on Wednesday.

Last night at 5pm I went around her house so she could do my nails…..I was paranoid the whole time I was there about her still being contagious and catching it. When I got home, before I washed my hands (cries) I took one of my vitamin pills.

Now I am completely convinced she would still be contagious and that I’m going to have contracted it.

I had it about 2 years ago and it was AWFUL. I have such a big weekend this weekend full of stuff, nights out, lesson with the horse, ski lesson, ice skating etc and I REALLY don’t want to be ill 

Pointless post I know but does anyone know how contagious she would have been last night if she first displayed symptoms early hours of Sunday/ Monday morning?

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