HELP - think ds2 has just had a fit

[deegward]

Ds2 woke up screaming about an hour ago, dh went upto him and I coul tell all was not well, when I went up ds2 was sitting on dh knee and had a vacant look on his face, he couldn't put his dummy in his mouth.

After about 2-3 minutes, he started jerking, foot twitching, and hand, we brought him down stairs, kept him warm, and he kept twitching his body for another 15-20 minutes. When the twitching died down he cold put his dummy in his mouth, and I asked him if he wanted to go back to bed, he nodded. I took him back to bed, and he almost fell asleep straight away.

This has happened before, before Christmas, and I think that day like today ds2 hadn't had a nap. Dh's dad has epilepsy. I have ead my book and this sounds like a petit mal.

Any advice? btw ds will be 2 at the end of March

[deegward]

i thought someone would help

[galaxy]

sorry deegward...I have no experience of this. Have you called NHS Direct?

[Yorkiegirl]

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[Twiglett]

I think you should call NHS direct 0845 46 47

or your local hospital's A&E

sorry, have no direct experience of this

is he running a fever at all?

[Chandra]

Ring nhs direct asap. They could help (I have no experience of this). Phone: 0845 4647

[ThomCat]

Oh poor you, sorry have no experience of fits at all so don't know what to say. lou has fits, she might be able to be more help, she's a moderator so around quite a lot. try posting this oin the SN board maybe?

[Chandra]

PS I was also thinking of a night terror.

[monkeychops]

Maybe he just had a really bad dream and was so shocked at 1st he didn't want to go back to sleep cos he was afraid?

[KBear]

My DS has had two febrile convulsions. Firstly, has a temp? Secondly call your doctor straightaway. Not to panic you but they need to know and you need calm and expert advice on what to do next. If he is hot, uncover him, strip his clothes off (but don't let him get chilled IYKWIM). Take his temp. don't be temped to cuddle him as that will raise his temp. Definitely call the doc.

[deegward]

Thanks, no temp, wasn't a convulsion more of a episode. I said to call NHS direct but dh said to wait until morning and speak to GP, he's sleeping now.

[JanH]

Sorry, deegward, I have no experience of this either - if it was just for a few minutes I would suggest maybe a bad dream/night terror but 20 minutes or so sounds more serious than that.

If you think he is OK now then I would leave it till morning and make a GP appt, but if you are still concerned then do ring NHS Direct now.

It may be nothing but either way I think you want to take things further and I would too. Hugs.

[deegward]

But would a night terror, mean that he was twitching etc?

[KBear]

And it is typical to want to sleep after a convulsion in my experience.

x

[deegward]

Kbear, that's what I thought as well

[pixiefish]

ring NHS direct. I have no experience I'm sorry

[deegward]

think i will, will post tomorrow and let you know what's gone on. Thanks to all, its sad (but nice)my first reaction was to come here to my on line buddies.

let you know tomorrow

D

[RTKangaMummy]

When DS had a convulsion few months ago

LOU was very helpful and supportive

so if anyone sees her around point her in this direction

Cyberhugs {{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}

[KBear]

I don't know of another reason for a febile convulsion apart from a rapid rise in temp so perhaps it's not that.

Hugs though, scary seeing your boy like that.

[Twiglett]

when DS had a night terror he seemed totally not there .. couldn't (or wouldn't) focus on us, couldn't be pacified .. we just had to lay him down and let him settle back down

no jerking or twitching though

don't know if that helps

I think you're right to ring NHS direct and ask dw .. otherwise you'll only be bothered till you can speak to GP

[tortoiseshell]

Ds had a night terror, and he was twitching, but more in a 'jumping away' sort of way - he was terrified of something and was trying to leap away from it. I would get it checked at the doctors. Hope everything's ok, and he has a peaceful night.

[edam]

Deegward, I have epilepsy, and I hate to say this but it does sound like a seizure to me. Except that it went on for so long - I'm not an expert on epilepsy but I think seizures are usually a lot quicker than that. Was he unconscious at all?
Definitely call the doc. And see \link {http://www.epilepsy.org.uk\British Epilepsy Assocation} for more info. If it was a seizure, he will probably sleep very heavily and may well be a bit muzzy when he wakes up - as if you are recovering from an illness, just got up after nasty dose of flu sort of thing.
There are all sorts of reasons for seizures and having one fit doesn't mean you have epilepsy - it's defined as a tendency to have recurrent seizures. This may well be a one-off ? I hope it is.

[edam]

damn, got the link wrong, but www.epilepsy.org.uk should get you to the right place. It's the leading medical charity in this area - they know everything there is to know about it.