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Drug firms supplying new 5-in-1baby jabs fund head of government committee

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carla · 15/08/2004 12:35

.. The Chairman of the Government committee that approved the use of the 5-in-1 innoculation for babies receives financial support for his work from the sole supplies of the vaccine.' (Front page, Sunday Telegraph).

Unbloodybelievable.

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WideWebWitch · 15/08/2004 12:40

I know I shouldn't be surprised but still read this with my jaw open. Do the government think we're stupid (the answer to that is clearly yes)?

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Angeliz · 15/08/2004 12:49

It will be intersesting to see what they come out with now after Wakefeild got SLATED for doing similar!

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WideWebWitch · 15/08/2004 12:50

Here it is copied and pasted from the Telegraph site (otherwise you have to register to read it). Hasten to add I'm not a Torygraph reader, I just registered as Ms Waterwitch.

"Drug firms supplying new 5-in-1 baby jabs fund head of government vaccination committee
By Patrick Hennessy, Political Editor
(Filed: 15/08/2004)


The chairman of the Government committee that approved the use of the new five-in-one inoculation for babies receives financial support for his work from the sole suppliers of the vaccine.

Michael Langman, who chairs the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, receives "industrial support" funding from Merck Sharp and Dohme (MSD) for his work as a professor of medicine at Birmingham University.


The vaccine will protect children against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, Hib and polio
He has also declared a "non-personal interest" - defined as an interest that "does not benefit a member personally but which does benefit their position or department" - in another drugs company, Aventis Pasteur. Together, the drug manufacturers form Aventis Pasteur MSD, the company that will supply the vaccine in Britain.

The decision to introduce the vaccine, which will protect children against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, Hib and polio, was announced by the Government last week.

Ministers said that the change was being introduced so that infants no longer have to be exposed to the mercury-based preservative, thiomersal, which is contained in the existing whooping cough vaccine.

The disclosure last night raised fresh concerns among health campaigners over the links between senior figures in the medical establishment and large drugs companies.

The Department of Health said last night that Prof Langman had declared his interests in "strict accordance" with the committee's code of practice.

As chairman of the joint committee, Prof Langman led a number of discussions leading up to last week's announcement that all babies would be given the jab at the age of two months.

In his declaration of interest, Prof Langman said that he has "industrial support" from MSD, in addition to two other drugs companies.

The Department of Health said that MSD provided funding for Prof Langman's university work including "support for clinical trials of treatment for colorectal cancer and advice on chronic digestive disease". It declined to say how much.

Jackie Fletcher, the founder of the Jabs parents' support group, said: "This does raise serious questions about the integrity of these committees, which are always billed as wholly independent.

"What we have been campaigning for is full transparency. The powers that be need to be squeaky clean. They've got to be seen to be above any potential conflicts of interest."

A spokesman for the Department of Health said: "Prof Langman has not received any personal benefit from Aventis Pasteur MSD since becoming chairman of the JCVI. The code makes it clear that in such cases of non-personal interests it is not necessary for people to stand aside from the work of the committee."

The inoculations will begin on September 27. Prof Langman declined to comment."

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prufrock · 15/08/2004 12:50

Amazing. FWIW I do think the 5 in 1 is safe - it's been used for years in Canada with no problems, and doesn't contain anything dodgy like thimerosil. But for a governemnt that was supposed to be good at presentation they aren't doing very well are they?

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foxinsocks · 15/08/2004 12:52

I must say, in defence of the Professor, that it wasn't he himself who received the money but his department (and it wasn't recent) - also, almost all research performed is funded by drug companies and he is responsible for large research departments at his university. Sadly, it's the only way medical research is feasible anymore (hence the way the government hounded out Andrew Wakefield - his funded research - they really played on that fact to discredit him). Also, the Professor never sought to hide this fact. He disclosed it to the Joint Vaccination committee so it wasn't something he was trying to hide.

Still, I think the government should have made the whole thing more transparent.

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WideWebWitch · 15/08/2004 12:55

OK, here's what Wakefield has to say, same paper, copied and pasted again.

"Ministers have only themselves to blame for the latest furore
(Filed: 15/08/2004)


Dr Andrew Wakefield, who raised fears about the safety of the MMR vaccine, argues that patronising parents with spin simply alienates them.






Each time the Department of Health announces a change in the childhood vaccine programme, one minor consequence is a rash of telephone calls from concerned parents to the charity Visceral for which I work.

Last week's announcement of the likely introduction of the new five-in-one combined diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), tetanus, haemophilus influenza (Hib) and polio vaccine was been no exception. In spite of assurances from Whitehall officials and ministers responsible for public health, a large proportion of the British public is apparently unconvinced of either the safety of, or the necessity for, this change.

Why is it that the Department of Health seems unable to persuade the public that it is doing the right thing?

First, stop treating the British people like idiots. They are not; the people to whom we speak at Visceral have usually conducted their own internet inquiries, have spoken to friends and colleagues and not only ask sophisticated questions but are perfectly capable of understanding a complex answer.

Second, don't over-simplify and don't tell lies or "spin" the facts, however good the motive.

The first rule of public relations is to tell the truth; it seems this has been forgotten. Dr David Salisbury, the head of immunisation at the Department of Health, speaking on television on Tuesday, said the new combination vaccine was completely safe. This was a mistake. Everyone accepts that no medical intervention is without some risk. Furthermore, a summary of the adverse reactions experienced with this vaccine in Canada is already circulating widely on the internet.

Instead of issuing blanket assurances, public health officials should explain and quantify the risks within the context and limitations of the safety studies that have been performed. Parents understand risk. Instinctively, they weigh risk every time they send their children to an adventure playground, or consent to their participation in a contact sport.

Notably, Dr Salisbury was instrumental in the introduction of the Immravax and Pluserix brands of MMR in this country in 1988. No doubt he was equally reassuring about their safety then. The fact that these vaccines were subsequently withdrawn due to an unacceptably high rate of meningitis does not inspire confidence.

Alarmingly, Dr Salisbury went on to state in his television interviews, without any medical or scientific basis in fact, that children could safely be given 1,000 vaccines at once. The Times followed up with the headline on Wednesday, "Experts call for six-in-one jabs". Meanwhile, in a sobering article by Michael Smith of The Daily Telegraph, Professor Simon Wesseley - previously a sceptic on the existence of a Gulf War illness - confirmed to the public inquiry on Gulf War Syndrome that not only were vaccines the culprit, but also that "the more vaccines you received, the more likely you were to suffer ill health".

Dr Salisbury's transparent confusion of fact with personal opinion reflects a failure to grasp that for adverse reactions with combination vaccines, the risk of the whole is likely to be greater than the sum of the parts. This is particularly the case with live viral vaccines where interference between viruses has the potential to alter risk profoundly.

Also, during his interviews, Dr Salisbury claimed that the shift to mercury-free vaccines was almost irrelevant, as the amount of mercury present was so small as to present no danger. By contrast, one of Dr Salisbury's American colleagues, Dr Neal Halsey - upon the belated realisation of the true quantity of mercury in many childhood vaccines - was refreshingly honest, if also alarming in his exposure of unacceptable regulatory incompetence. "From the beginning, I saw thimerosal as something different," he said in 2002. "It was the first strong evidence of a causal association with neurological impairment. I was very concerned."

Dr Halsey, who is one of the architects of US vaccine policy, then explained the failure to calculate the total mercury burden to which a baby was exposed as more vaccines were introduced. "My first reaction was simply disbelief, which was the reaction of almost everybody involved in vaccines," he said. "In most vaccine containers, thimerosal is listed as a mercury derivative, a hundredth of a per cent.

"And what I believed, and what everybody else believed, was that it was truly a trace, a biologically insignificant amount. My honest belief is that if the labels had had the mercury content in micrograms, this would have been uncovered years ago. But the fact is, no one did the calculation."

The next few years are likely to see the introduction of ever greater numbers of vaccines and the possibility of using combination vaccines containing up to 16 different infectious diseases, is already being discussed in the US. In such a fast-changing environment, public confidence in public healthcare policy is crucial. Yet in the eyes of many, the system is fatally flawed.

There is a widespread perception that this policy is compromised by commercial interests; vaccines are a multi-billion pound business and drug companies, with their powerful political connections, are perceived by many as pursuing vaccine development in the private, and not the public interest.

Unfortunately there is no way of reassuring the public on this point, since the system of checks and balances that should operate has failed, and the organs of vaccine development, safety, licensing and promotion, are hopelessly intertwined. These functions are separate responsibilities that should never be compromised by fuzzy boundaries, overlapping memberships and close, even financial, relations with the pharmaceutical companies.

Until this situation is corrected, there is a very grave danger that the Department of Health will succeed in completely destroying the nation's confidence in the public health system. The consequences of this are likely to be grave. Those of us involved in directly addressing parental concerns and researching possible vaccine adverse reactions are affirmed in our resolve by the often dogmatic, high-handed and alarmingly unscientific response of those in public health, to genuine issues of safety.

Andrew Wakefield is employed by Visceral, the medical research charity that supports research into autism and bowel disease."

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WideWebWitch · 15/08/2004 12:58

I've never heard of Visceral before but their site's here for anyone interested

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Twiglett · 15/08/2004 15:03

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Podmog · 15/08/2004 15:51

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Angeliz · 15/08/2004 18:05

Podmog, i have longer, i'm due in Feb but it's an awful choice isn't it??
My gut instinct tells me that i want Infanrix(the same as dd had) and i haven't thought about the others.
Mind you, by February next year i don't know what my options will be. I can see things going the same way as single MMR jabs, the only way is to pay.!!!!

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