The rectocele that is apparently not a rectocele.

[BeyondAnyFuckingJoke]

I am having brilliant advice about this on facebook, but thought I'd post here too in case anyone else has anything to add? :)

I had my gynaecologist appointment today for my (diagnosis by my GP) rectocele. It was diagnosed over two years ago, but have had a pregnancy since, then a lot of cancelled appointments. The problems that led to me going to the GP in the first place are no different.

I'm going to c&p my posts...

[BeyondAnyFuckingJoke]

I cried in her office, I felt like such a fucking hypochondriac and I am so sick of having problems with everything. I have my Mmedical this afternoon though, so hopefully feeling extra shit will help with that at least... :(

I will speak to my gp, and depending on what she says I may go to pals too. She did not get me to push, nor examine me standing up, just inserted a speculum and got me to cough. I said if there is no problem, is there nothing i can do to help it (arthritis in my hands and wrists makes digital removal v painful). I know there are pessarries/rings etc that could help with this, or even physio, but she said the only thing that would help a rectocele ("which you dont have") is surgery. In getting all upset I lost my nerve re everything i know. She didnt even ask about my labours. I need to make sure i write stuff down so i dont forget anything...

She told me over and over again that my GP was WRONG to diagnose it, that any problems were caused by the weight/effect on muscles of being pregnant and that it also shouldnt be diagnosed less than 3months pp. I pointed out that I was four weeks pregnant with DS2 at the time, he was hardly heavy, and i was 10m pp from DS1. I wrote it off for those 10m that it was normal, i was just recovering. She said it is normal for my vag/bowel to be "lax" to the point of tampons falling out, and that having to digitally assist is caused purely by constipation, not a fault in the wall.
Rambling a bit, hope this makes sense

I told her I am suspected hypermobile, I told her I had a inguinal hernia as a toddler, she did not comment on either.
I told her I had a rectocele and she told me off for telling her what it was, said describe your problems and I will tell you what it is. I wonder now if she was determined that she would find I was "wrong" after that.

Oh thats the other thing, I have pain during sex, she said this can never be caused by a prolapse. I am far from an expert, but dr google seems to disagree.

(have had to miss bite out, but hope you can get the jist, hands too sore to type it all again)

[BeyondAnyFuckingJoke]

Realise i have posted names, will ask hq to amend

[IDoAllMyOwnStunts]

Hi beyond, sorry to hear your problems. There is a long running thread in general health which starts 'any old prolapse...' (Sorry cant link am on phone). There are loads of ladies on there who have suffered with exactly what you describe. They are a lovely supportive bunch with a wealth of support. Please post on there where you will get lots of advise. Best of luck. X

[IDoAllMyOwnStunts]

Link to the thread I'm on about, please come and join us

[BeyondAnyFuckingJoke]

Ah, cheers! i am on the ragged bits thread, and think I may have posted on any old prolapse back when I was first having trouble too, but didnt want to clog it up with my problem today (when I havent been on there) :)

Am quite annoyed at myself now for today. I missed out a load of stuff I should have told her. Feeling heavy, like my insides are falling out, my DH can feel it too when I'm stood up, there is 100% something there!
Was quite preoccupied with other health probs today though, struggling to move and in tonnes of pain, and just wasnt prepared for her to claim there is nothing wrong :(

It used to be worse after prolonged walking, but I havent walked far for ages so that just wasnt at the front of my mind.

Am especially annoyed at myself because I am usually That Mumsnetter who is a right pita to HCPs and a bit of a know-it-all about particular medical stuff

[IDoAllMyOwnStunts]

Sounds v much like prolapse. Have you been examined by a gynie? Please post on any old prolapse thread. You will be made very welcome and get lots of good advice from women going through the same as you, certainly not clogging the thread up! I posted there ages ago re stress incontinence and have now had surgery. My problems were minor in comparison but the advice I got made me push not to be fobbed off! It's changed my life.

[IDoAllMyOwnStunts]

Ah sorry just seen it was a gynie you saw today.