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ARGH fuckity fucking fuck. fucking bollox

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PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 08:30:22

I am laying on the sofa in agony. My back has 'gone' having stupidly decided to tidy the house in order for a 6 yr old boy to come for tea with DD, just in case his mother stopped for a coffee when she came to collect, having never been here before (and having a humungous beautiful house herself). Did she stop? no she didn't. make some lame excuse and disappeared with her DS.

So, for a pretty pointless reason other than my own pride which was not even noticed, I put my back out completely and utterly. On thursday evening. I have tried since then to get the pain and spasms under control and I simply can't.

DH has just left for the weekend to got to a stag do, DS has a stinking flu bug (he is 3) and luckily is feeling better today, but last night had a fever of 40 and was only reducing a little with meds. luckily he is now through that and although grotty, feeling much more perky with medicine. DD is snoty, cracked lips, but stoic and 'caring' for mummy.

The kids are well-behaved. Thank goodness we have a laptop, an i-pad, a Nintendo (which i didn't want DD to have) and an abundance of mostly scratched films to watch. Two of my friends are coming over this afternoon to help with the children/let me rest take valium but for now:

FUCKING HELL IT HURTS! And I can't even reach my coffee.

there. that's it. <lays back and sulks>

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:01:38

So you're thinking of driving your DS to the dr, but you can hardly move and are on strong painkillers.

Sorry but you're being ridiculous.

Please do not drive.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:03:10

In fact I can only presume you're so high on painkillers that you aren't thinking straight.

lizzypuffs Sat 26-Jan-13 13:18:26

I remember another thread you were on pavlov. I'm sorry your back is so bad again. It sounds like you may have to call dh back if you can't get anyone to come over. I hope it eases soon for you.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 13:21:34

quick no I am not high on painkillers. I have taken the same painkillers that I take every day. 100mg tramadol slow release, 50mg diclofenac, 1000mg paracetamol (plus omeprazole). I take that every day for pain relief. I function daily on that fine, I drive, I work, I engage well actively and safely with the children in the car. Hence the significant pain levels now as I can't take more than that

What I would normally do in this situation, when I have acute pain is
1. lie down in bed with legs at an angle/cushions under to support natural s-shape in back
2. use heat wrap
3. take an additional 50mg tramadol and/or codiene 60mg.
4. Valium 5mg x 3 times daily
5. knees rocking gently eveey 2 hours.
6. mumsnet

But, I can't do any of those things in addition, apart from heat wrap, due to being alone with the children. I can probably take additional tramadol as that only makes me talk more grin

I would absolutely, never drive with the children (or without) if I was high on drugs.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 13:22:49

and, i can hardly mopve, but i will do whatever i have to for ds, dont care how much it hurts. am going to see if gp will come out though as he has thrown up and has temp of 40.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:24:35

It's not only the pain killers though, it's the fact you can barely move.
Please do not drive, it's just so dangerous for you, dc and other road users.

You can't move and DS is so ill you're thinking of taking him to the dr.

You NEED to get your DH back ASAP.

QuickLookBusy Sat 26-Jan-13 13:25:32

Sorry x posted.

Yes get the dr to come round, he can check you and DS. Also get DH to come home.

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 13:31:10

Pav, can I just say quickly and affectionately - you utter twit! WHAT were you thinking, doing fecking unnecessary housework in your condition? You poor bugger.

So - you've the heat pack on your back, do you have any deep heat or tiger balm or anything like that you can rub in? Even Vicks would do at a pinch (has the menthol in it, same as tigerbalm, helps)

I agree to trying to get the doc out to you if needs be - much safer. Trying to move legs in a car situation with back pain like I can imagine you have would be sooooo painful and if it's at all icy and you brake suddenly or have an accident (God forbid).... no. Just don't, please.

Is there no one else you can ask to come and help out, even for just a couple of hours?

Norem Sat 26-Jan-13 13:32:00

Pavlov my ex dh was taken to hospital with acute an acute attack of his longstanding back pain ( which had no diagnosis) when he got there he was given Iv painkillers and an MRI scan. He was operated on 2 days later and has been pain free since. It was a herniated disk iirc.
Sometimes it is better for the medics to see you during an attack ?

Oh Pavlov. Sending you gentle hugs. No advice really but lots of sympathy - you know where I am if you want to talk.

In the meantime, get the GP to come to you if DS needs to be seen, and order pizza for dinner for the 3 of you.

Pavlov- if your positions were reversed, would you have left DP alone to hold the fort like this? Really?

And at the very least- why isn't he helping to tidy up before he goes off on this jolly?

I would be uncomfortable about him feeling its ok to leave you like this TBH.

chocolatelime Sat 26-Jan-13 14:12:10

Yes a good idea to the Deep Heat - there is a max strength version.

The side effects to the Pregabilin have not been too bad, as long as you build it up gradually. The main effect is occasional dizziness, but DH does not experience that at all anymore.

The other drug to consider is Naproxen which is an anti-inflammatory.

If I was local to you, I would come and give you a hand. I know how miserable severe back pain is and I can't imagine how you are coping with 2 young children. DH has just got his date for surgery and I am just hoping that it gets us out of this nightmare.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:12:13

stairs thumb it was my pride that resulted in the housework being done! I had a rather nice but 'affluent' mother coming around and, well due to my back and DH working long hours this week, it was a shitehole. I don't want people to think I can't cope, or live in a craphole, I want people to want their children to visit DD. I don't do it that often as my back has not allowed me to this year, so as I was feeling well, I wanted to let DD have some normality. DH had wed day off and got the back of it done, but not enough for me to feel happy having people I didn't know around. And my back felt 'fine' so, as always I pushed it too far, in the name of self-pride.

I am feeling significantly better, thanks to second dose of diclofenac, the heat wrap being almost constantly on me, and no longer stressing so much about DS. Spoke to doc who said it sounded like he had the flu, and said much sympathies to him! (but, also, not much that can be done). He has given me guidance to give him ibruprofen a little earlier than the bottle says and will call me at 3pm to see if temp is down. I am able to walk, just bent double and very cautiously!

He was quite sweet, said it was very busy in our area, but, if he is unwell and needs to be seen they will try to send someone out so I don't make my back work 'we'' work something out' he said but said if temp gets down and he hold water down in next hour, he should be ok. If not, main worry is dehydration.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:15:24

choco oh good luck to your DH for surgery, hope it gives him much relief. I can't take napraxen, had a bad reaction to it. I have some deep-heat, and also I have some ibruprofen gel. I will see if I can take that with taking diclofenac orally. Last time neither touched the pain as the spasms are so deep and it won't touch the sciatica. But worth a go.

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 14:17:54

Glad you're feeling better, just take it really easy (I know you will now, now the damage is done).

I've done my back in several times through unnecessary stuff - but the stupidest thing I ever did was to try and swing some rubbish into my wheelie bin - it was too heavy to lift direct, but I thought if I swung it and got some momentum going it would be easier. HAHAHA. What happened was I pulled the long muscles down both sides of my spine from trying to control the weight in the swing - I felt it "go" on the third swing and dropped everything but too late! I couldn't even breathe properly. I ended up with my back smothered in tigerbalm, with a thick college scarf tied around my middle as a sort of back support (tied it tight) and couldn't do anything much for 3 days until the muscle reaction died down.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:19:39

choco and thank you for offering to come and help.

I don't really feel like I can ask most of my friends. they have their own children, work etc, and tbh, don't understand where I am at with this. This friend of mine i spoke about is the one I rely on, and vice versa, like my sister and she of course is not able to come, for very good reasons! I have another friend (my other 'sister') who would be here at the drop of a hat, but she is working this weekend. And family live almost as far away as you can get in the same country! (Devon/Co.Durham!), or in another country - USA!

Thumbwitch Sat 26-Jan-13 14:22:29

Oo, stick the deepheat on your sacrum - there are four foramina in the sacrum, aim for the third one (F in the diagram) especially and rub it in hard. It should help. smile

(NB - don't get the deep heat too close to your tail, in case it gets to the very thin and sensitive skin around your bottomhole... I've done that before when I bruised my coccyx, oh bloody hell it burnt!)

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:24:05

thumb yes it's the muscle spasms that are the problem, they can continue long after the actual problem that set them off eased. And, unfortunately they constrict the lumbar discs, and movement of fluid/blood into them the more frequently they spasm around the disc/facet joint, and the longer they spasm for each time, the sicker the disc becomes, and the more likely it is the spine will 'go' again as there is less disc to keep it in place. Which is why, after a long time fighting the use of diazepam I have succumbed to it as an acute muscle relaxant and relief method, normally as soon as it 'goes'. just can't do it on my own with the children.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:24:50

shock ouch! I shall go do that now (on the sacrum, not further down!)

chocolatelime Sat 26-Jan-13 14:30:07

Thank goodness you are feeling a bit better. It's horrible having to take so many painkillers, but when the pain is so intense there really is no other choice. You sound like you are coping fantastically well in a difficult situation.

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 14:31:10

Pavlov, you're making allowances for everyone else's weekend whilst you are in agony and potentially with a very sick child.

You need to get someone to come and help you, ideally DH. The paintball place would be able to get hold of him.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:43:46

trib yes, I am. I know. I am just used to asking and being given a million reasons why they can't - out with family, another friend, have their own sick kids, working, washing their hair. And I am stubborn. And embarrassed about asking for help. If I am honest about it.

DS is asleep, temp reduced to 39.1 DD is happily playing imagination with her fairies and dolls. I am going to make a coffee, and an ice cream smoothie for her, she is such a good girl she needs looking after too, and then I am going to lie back down, and maybe sleep a little (after finding the deepheat)

It's been a little hairraising but I have a few minutes breather to take some stock and calm a little before it all starts again! Hopefully that will give me time to calm the pain a bit.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 14:45:22

clam I meant to say as well, in all my 'mememe' post, sorry to hear about your bad leg break sad i hope you mend very soon, how horrible for you!

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 14:50:06

I know what it's like, Pavlov. People don't realise, and it makes the hurt of their casual prioritisation of their own shit even more difficult to absorb. This is why you need to be able to call on those who do get it - and given your friend has some (I'm assuming) difficult news to deal with today, it needs to be your DH.

Hope you manage to get some rest.

PavlovtheCat Sat 26-Jan-13 15:09:09

trip not bad news, great news! pregnant after trying for many many years inc IVF. very early stage, tested this morning, and ds has flu. she cant risk getting it, for her own sake or baby's sake. i will ask my other good friend who is working if she will help put kids to bed, but she lives out of town, and means driving in 40 mins after working all day. she is a nurse, could probably do with a break from tending to sick people!

i have asked another friend if she will take DD to her swimming lesson tomorrow morning, voicemail, waiting for reply.

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