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step this way dear ones...the trolley will be here in a sec...

Gigondas Tue 29-Jan-13 15:43:00

Wasn't there an episode of terry and June where he got stuck in a chair?

smee Tue 29-Jan-13 16:11:38

shock mas, that sounds mighty interesting but hard. Did you have to pitch for it? By which I suppose I mean, have you already showed them some ideas, or are you doing it cold? Must be tough if you don't have something approved as a starting point.

topsyturner Tue 29-Jan-13 17:21:35

Sigh
DH just phoned me to tell me that his work place have just put him down to a 4 day week .
I hate this bloody recession hmm

smee Tue 29-Jan-13 17:55:05

sad Topsy. Though I suppose good that he's not being laid off altogether. We'll have to find cheap but delicious sources of fbs to fuel you through it all. x

amberlight Tue 29-Jan-13 19:06:22

Oh knickers, Topsy :-(

Dizzy, welcome from me too. Sad that you're here but glad that we can keep you company.
As other wise people have said, 9 out of 10 lumps aren't cancer.
Even if it is cancer, these days 9 out of 10 of those can be wrestled into submission with the modern treatments (which aren't fun, but they're doable for most people).
And even if it's the 1 in 100 really really rudely behaved lumps, they can often turn it into a long-term manageable situation now.
So, it's better news than it was.
Stay away from Google because the info on there is mostly stuff from Ancient Times and is total rubbish.

jchocchip Tue 29-Jan-13 21:27:47

Oh bum topsy 3 day weekends will be ok for a while, I guess. Maybe you can line all those little jobs around the house up for him...

My Mum and Dads best man has died this week too. Feeling quite sad.

Bern down to the river which is v full. Watching death in paradise now. Cat sitting on my feet making them toasty smile

Oh topsy this recession is hitting everyone.

jchoc condolences. Sad no matter how old.

hnd hope your surgeon appointment goes ok and you feel squeaky clean soon.

Hugs to all those who need it.

that's a bugger topsy sad I am sorry.
smee the novella has been written by a writer friend -she lived in Japan for a while so has contacts -she suggested me and I sent samples which they liked but am finding it very hard -I think the only way is to be experimental; and just go at it, but I feel quite anxious. Pesky period too-thought chemo is meant to stop this-that or menopause anyway, but since no tamoxifen am very regular- weird.
T still very coldy/coughy -and he has a 6th form college interview tomorrow.

Gigondas Wed 30-Jan-13 07:37:01

brew For all who want it.

Topsy - sorry about dh. Yes it's better than no job but still a bummer .

Jchoc- am sorry that you are feeling low- not surprised with more sad news.

Dizzy- welcome and feel free to wobble here.

Hnd - the yuck of dressings and drains lives with me still.

Pen and atoz how you doing?

Mas- hope get some inspiration today.

My shoulder sore again so have heat pack on it. It's very annoying but went out with friend for wine which helped yesterday.
Waves to amber, kurri, smee ,copthall and anyone else about.

jchocchip Wed 30-Jan-13 11:28:27

Hi everyone. Was going to knitting today so morning off work but have spent time trying to find out what mum has done to her internet. Aargh think she had cancelled so dd stuck trying to arrange travel to degree interview manchester tomorrow. Need to know if internet will be there Monday as I was going to work there but can't w/o internet. Dd is off to Berlin and would like to see her go. Need a brew anyone?

yikes jane - hope internet gets sorted quick smart.
Scan is booked for 9th,which is a Saturday - it's abdomen/pelvis and chest.
Ds has a place at the 6th form college for A levels - yay ! Got his progress report too which is good on the whole but he certainly needs to revise a lot..will speak to him about it on the way to piano lesson.
Japanese work is falling into place slowly.

smee Wed 30-Jan-13 16:57:44

Yay for T, MAS. That is good news. Is he pleased about the offer? Am assuming it's somewhere he wants to go? The book sounds intriguing. Does it need a lot of illustration? I'd imagine not. Pesky about period. Hope you're feeling okay x

Pen, how are you now? Still exhausted am sure, but hope not in too much pain.

HND, how's the wounds today? Any more sloshing, or is it slowing down?

Haven't heard from AtoZ, so am guessing she got a bed. Hope I'm right. Miserable to have to wait.

Jane how annoying on internet. Why would she have cancelled it? Am guessing just senility? Why's DD off to Berlin? Is it an Art trip? My DH there atm with his students. Must be the place the lecturers want to go. grin

Does acupuncture help your shoulder, Gig? You haven't mentioned it lately. wine is clearly the best option though. smile

Weirdness going on here. Both DS and I have sore legs. Feel sort of stiff and achey. No other symptoms. We have bought a tube of medicinal pringles, thinking they might help. confused

odd about legs smee - hope Pringles do the trick !
T pleased about college place as it's where he wants to be - but he must get the right grades first ! Japanese thing is 14 illustrations,so not too bad.

jchocchip Wed 30-Jan-13 18:32:27

Yea for T mas maybe now he can concentrate on revision as he has something to aim for. Pringles sound just the thing for achy legs!
Mum was just not thinking as her sil said they had a good bt deal for calls and mum thought it would be easier, not thinking that the orange deal did internet too ... Of course dd not interested in calls, just needs t'internet. Today dd has spent an hour in acocks green library and another one in mcdonalds grin
Train all sorted for manchester tomorrow. Art degree interview.
Did manage to do some work this pm, and dh did nice stew and dumplings for tea smile

Copthallresident Wed 30-Jan-13 18:41:32

<still in need of those zombie emoticons>

smee legs sound like they need wine too (not DS's obviously) but I find it makes legs get very loose and immune to feeling which in this case may be handy as opposed to leading to bouncing off the walls

gigs wine for you too! It is difficult to avoid the one sided weight lifting that a toddler though, it wouldn't be recommended at the gym! You must also have had the advanced balancing 3 year old toddler on top of baby bump option too which can't help when all the ligaments are loose. At least now you don't have paranoia as well.

hnd the fluid is depressing and gunky, it always amuses me to think that those glamour models had to have the horrible little plastic bags of goo hanging from their fake tits too, not so glamourous then were they? grin Hope it dries up soon

Topsy Sorry about your DH. Have they given timescales, could it be seasonal? There is so much of it about, though, has affected a lot of family and friends oop north angry

Mas Yeah for T, a relief to get that sorted. Like the sound of Japanese work, they have good sense of humour, if a bit Benny Hill so I am sure they will love what you do. Fingers crossed for scan.

KK a couple of DD2s friend's mums have been calling me Julia for over a decade now, it just got past the stage when any of us could have mentioned it. Strangely I don't mind it, yet if anyone shortens it to Jules a mist descends....

jchoc a lot on your plate sad Although your Mum and t'internet sounds a bit Peter Kay. I am sure watching Aire in full spate must help.

Goon dog and I nearly drowned / got hypothermia in River Thames yesterday, well goon dog didn't as he loves swimming and is well hard plenty of practise swimming in circles because has forgotten where ball was I have never seen the Thames so high. Riverside walk and most of riverside park turned into river as I walked along and ended up wading through thigh deep water to get out. At least now the parks aren't full of murderous stags high on sex.... Very dangerous place Twickers, at the mercy of nature....

Waves to everyone, sorry if I have missed anything or anyone, now I am a dyslexic zombie I have no hope of keeping up...

jchocchip Wed 30-Jan-13 19:02:06

Hi everyone. Was going to knitting today so morning off work but have spent time trying to find out what mum has done to her internet. Aargh think she had cancelled so dd stuck trying to arrange travel to degree interview manchester tomorrow. Need to know if internet will be there Monday as I was going to work there but can't w/o internet. Dd is off to Berlin and would like to see her go. Need a brew anyone?

jchocchip Wed 30-Jan-13 19:04:34

Ignore that post somehow my phone lost my post and I backtracked and managed to duplicate this morning's. I give in time for wine

digerd Wed 30-Jan-13 19:47:41

Just wanted to share my new experience about suspected Breast Cancer.
My DD had her first screening Mammogram and a week later had a recall letter. She couldn't feel any lumps at all, so was mystifying and worrying.
Date for next appt was the day after she got the letter - even more worrying.
Specialist showed us a cluster of calcified cells on the scan that was causing concern. There was no lump. These cells have the odds of being 80% behign and 20 malignant, but only in Situ stage, which means in the early precancerous stage/non- dangerous. Something I'd not heard of.
5 biopsies were taken last week Tuesday and today the results were all benign.
Treatment for malignant cells is removal of them - not the breast-.

jchocchip Wed 30-Jan-13 20:57:57

Hi digerd so pleased to hear that your dd's biopsies came back benign. Must have been a worrying time for you all.

topsyturner Wed 30-Jan-13 22:24:03

Hi Digerd
Great news that your DDs biopsies came back benign .
Is she going to have a lumpectomy for the DCIS ?
HND had DCIS , so she's a good one to ask if you have any questions .

DH (and I) have had a bit of time to get our heads round his reduction in hours .
It is (according to his bosses) only going to be for 3 months to get them over the hump .
They've been hhonest with him up till now . And they have been fantastic when he has needed any time off to be with me over the last couple of years
So we can only take their word for it and go with the flow for now .
Should be a nice change for DH as he normally works 6 days a week .
Will be a break for him I may bury him in the back garden though grin

How is everyone feeling today ?
Any tests or results coming up this week ?

Well done to T for his 6th form place .

PenisColada Wed 30-Jan-13 22:53:08

All ok with me and am feeling a bit better every day. Hoping my calcium levels are ok and I feel less shaky.
Neck still sore but it feels worse kind of inside. I can't shout and eating is still not easy. Some weight loss would be good.

Still struggling with diagnosis and now paranoid that at my post op appt next week they will have bad news that things were worse than I thought. I hope lymph node tests will be done by then.

Would they have told me if there were bad signs straight away ? I am worrying and feeling like I will never get over this.

topsyturner Wed 30-Jan-13 23:15:09

Hi Pen
Honestly ? No the Pre result jitters never really go away .
I have 3 monthly CTs , and run the whole gamut of not sleeping , not eating , general grumpiness before every single one !
I think you just learn to recognise that what you are feeling is perfectly valid . It's a bloody frightening time .

Copthallresident Wed 30-Jan-13 23:57:28

pen know a few people with thyroid / neck surgery and the soreness inside sounds normal. They tell you what they can, I have never heard of a doctor not telling you if it doesn't look good. Certainly my Consultant was very clear it didn't look good from seeing what came out in my first biopsy, and he was right. They may be not be perfect but do have lots of experience.

digerd Although you will not have heard of it, Cancer in situ is very common. It isn't just in the breast, where it is usually, but not always, in the ducts (DCIS) . I had it in my cervix 20 years ago. Cancer cells only threaten if they go out of control, break out of the part of the body they first develop in and become invasive, that is when you need more aggressive treatment such as radiotherapy, if they are still local, or chemo if they think they have spread beyond the local area. As hnd can advise the problem is that they don't yet understand what causes some cells to become invasive and some to stay put, in situ, so they treat them by removing them regardless. Not all breast cancer, even the nasty kinds, manifest themselves in a lump, some even don't show in a mammogram. It is really good news they have found this early, have identified it as in situ from the biopsy and are going to remove it.

DH took me out and plied me with wine tonight smile <off for a good night's sleep> <though know it is not the answer>.

Copthallresident Thu 31-Jan-13 00:00:16

pen but yes Topsy totally right you will wrestle with your brain conjuring up all sorts of awful scenarios until you actually get the result.

Copthallresident Thu 31-Jan-13 00:01:15

Awful scenarios, with accompanying symptoms.............

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