porn on daughter's iphone and ipod.

(50 Posts)
enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 11:18:10

Dd was given an iPhone by a paternal aunt. I checked it and under the advanced website there were some dubious websites porn stuff, fuckbuddy, local slags etc. shock

Anyway, I deleted them, and gave the phone to dd. She is 13 and I check the phone randomly and months later there is lots of porn stuff on amongst other teenager stuff. I was devastated. I confronted her and she was devastated. Crying and adamant that she hasn't looked at anything like that. (She knows I check her phone)

The more I looked in to it, the websites are really obscure. You expect a curious child to type in stuff like sex, porn etc, but some of the stuff looks like someone knows what to look for or extensively looks. (Or maybe I'm naive)

I thought maybe that her auntie maybe still has some connection to the iPhone through iTunes??? Is that possible?

I then looked at her iPod and that was even worse, and her auntie has never had that. Very confused.

I kept hold of both for a few weeks. I deleted the stuff on her iPhone and no more have come on. I have kept hold of the iPod and it looks like more things have come on, but can't be sure as the list is very long and I may have just missed it originally.

However there is other things on there that are really confused for a 13 year old to be looking at. Newspapers here, newspapers abroad, teacher website (she is an English teacher in a secondary school) and even Christian forums.

The other thing is, could it be related to her dad? He has iTunes and a iphone, would they maybe crossover? Or am I just clutching at straws? sad

I should mention that she has an iTunes account too. If that might be relevant?

NeoFaust Sun 24-Nov-13 11:29:28

I know little about iphones (good solid android user here) but one of the things that put me off them were stories about peoples private photographs being uploaded to a family icloud.

Could be that she is accidentally sharing information with someone else in the family, or that she has been hacked and someone is using identical details for their own phone.

Maybe check her itunes account, see if there are any odd purchases.

It could also be some malware that keeps opening the same pornographic pages, in which case you might want to wipe the whole memory and start again.

Could also be her lending her phone to people she knows and them quickly searching sites to get her in trouble. My very straight laced brother was horrified to find that his internet search history was suddenly blossoming with pages for 'tasteful nudes', 'attractive young women' and 'beautiful females in appropriate settings'. Only a genius possessed of monstrous cunning could have made a list that sounded dirty, yet also believably appropriate to the character of the young gentleman in question. (IT WAS ME).

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 11:43:21

She is definitely not lending her phone out. I take it off her at 9pm (bedtime) and she doesn't get it back till she gets home from school, and we have recently moved, so she goes to a new school and doesn't know anyone in the area, so doesn't really go out at nights or weekends.

I'm hoping it is some cross over of her auntie (although, ergh at knowing she's watching webcams) and not her dad, because I will be a single parent before Christmas.

MaryShelley Sun 24-Nov-13 11:53:30

perhaps you could phone apple and see if they can explain how it all works to you. or post on an iphone specific forum.

BertieBowtiesAreCool Sun 24-Nov-13 11:55:30

You need to do a hard reset on the phone rather than just deleting the stuff from the previous user.

This is how you restore it to factory settings

Then set up your own iTunes account in your name or your DD's name (I would recommend not adding a credit card though so that she has to buy the top up cards if she wants to buy stuff herself.)

If it carries on appearing, then the problem is someone in your own family and not the aunt. But I'd imagine it's the aunt's account which is automatically syncing stuff - she would have expected you to take that off and reset the phone (you would think she'd have done that herself, though!)

BertieBowtiesAreCool Sun 24-Nov-13 11:57:40

Oh I see, hang on, she does have her own account and it's happening on the iPod as well. It does sound like the accounts have got linked somehow.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:00:13

Thanks for the replies.

If they are linked in some way, can I get on her itunes /I cloud account and see? Is iTunes the same as I cloud?

BertieBowtiesAreCool Sun 24-Nov-13 12:01:43

I would take it to your nearest apple store and see if they can advise you about the accounts being linked. It might be a bit embarassing but you won't lose her purchases etc that way. If she hasn't spent money on it then I'd wipe both devices and make her a brand new account.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:06:56

Until I wrote the above post, I really did think it was the auntie, and I through dh in there as a vague possibility, but has it hasn't beeen completely given a definitely not, I'm quite interested to know if I can find out who it is before I reset.

Webcams, fuckbuddy and local slags are more than I will put up with.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:07:25

*threw

NoComet Sun 24-Nov-13 12:15:20

I'd assume the iPhone and the iPod are on the same account, either intentionally or accidentally.

DDs and mine are all in the same one on purpose to share music, Aps and ibooks.

Also I made a balls up of setting up mine originally and seem to have two working Apple ids on my phone.

The one that didn't seem to work, does, because I have to enter it's password to update the original Angry birds which must have been the first thing I down loaded.

Everything else needs the password for my second attempt at getting fucking iTunes to work.

Therefore, I know iPods etc can be very odd. Throw in the cloud as well and they can be very very odd indeed.

(has it's uses as I know DD's have snapchat, kik and instagram accounts wink)

MmeLindor Sun 24-Nov-13 12:19:10

Do you mean in the history? ie the websites that she has looked at?

I don't see how that would be in any way connected to previous usage by her aunt, or by any synching of data/apps.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:31:31

No Mme. There is nothing in the history. Even if you delete the history it shows up in a different place on the iPhone.

Go into settings, click safari, go to advanced and click and then click web usage data. All the websites that have been accessed will be listed in terms of data usuasge.

I just had a really good look, and there are web sites like betrad, male survivor, disqus.

Not sites for a 13 yr old and not sites my dh will frequent either. confused

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed Sun 24-Nov-13 12:39:40

Disqus isn't a porn site, it's a commenting platform for blogs disqus.com/

I don't know much about iPhones, but is it possible no one has actually visited the sites you've found, but they are showing up because of adverts popups etc. on legitimate sites?

MortifiedAnyFuckerAdams Sun 24-Nov-13 12:45:03

It is really quite odd. Im a total Apple novice so dont know whether it is linked but just hopibg that theres some kind of weird linkup going on and that it is with neither your dh or dd.

Could you ask DH for a loan of his phone as you think the two are linked and want to test it - his response could be very telling.

MmeLindor Sun 24-Nov-13 12:47:11

Ah, ok. I understand now. I just had a look at mine, and there is nothing there that I haven't actually looked at.

Surely the only things on that would be websites accessed from the phone? How could that be synched from another phone?

Are you sure that no one else has been using the phone?

NoComet Sun 24-Nov-13 12:51:49

Dodgy pop ups appear a lot on gossip blogs and image searches, which often also get you to blogs as people use web harvested pictures to illustrate their posts. Many blog sites put on their own ads. totally unrelated and often unsuited to what you are reading.

Even MN gets dodgy Google ads.

I've got all sorts looking for art work ideas for PTA posters, very bland searchers like you might do for HW bring up the oddest things.

Top ten lists are really awful, top ten beautiful hotel pools, leads to top 10 good looking blokes (just about OK at 13), but the ads. down the side aren't.

FunkyBoldRibena Sun 24-Nov-13 12:54:04

I have an iphone, a macbook, an imac and an ipad. None of the sites on one cross over to the other. Sorry.

I have icloud and the photos and songs and documents cross over but none of the websites.

I think you are going to have to face it that your daughter is accessing those sites or sites that have popups to those sites.

MmeLindor Sun 24-Nov-13 12:55:13

What does she look at when she is using the gadgets?

Does she read a lot of blogs?

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:55:29

Saskia, I know. Betrad is a betting site, male survivor is about men surviving child abuse anbd like you said disqus is a discussion site, so none of them would be something I'd expect did to be on, or my dh, which would suggest someone else.

Dh leaves his phone lying around all the time and I have the password. He is smarter than me though and will just delete hide, if I look anyway. I'm really not convinced it is him, based on some websites zambiantimes for instance!

I think it is aunty, and possibly uncle and cousin.

I have her iTunes password now, I'm going to try that.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 12:57:02

She reads fan fiction. Ummmmm......

I have checked it though and it is harry potter stuff mostly

FunkyBoldRibena Sun 24-Nov-13 12:59:38

How could it be auntie, uncle and cousin when they have never had the ipad?

NorksofPlenty Sun 24-Nov-13 13:01:10

I've just checked my iPhone and some of the websites showing in advanced I definitely haven't looked at on my iPhone, but have looked at on my laptop so they must somehow be linked, presumably through my iTunes which is on my laptop. What computer is your daughters iTunes set up on? If it's the family computer which your dh also uses, then it's possible the history is his, or someone else who has access to that computer.

BertieBowtiesAreCool Sun 24-Nov-13 13:01:52

It does depend a lot on how it was set up and whether accounts were removed or a total reset was done, I know we have an android tablet which I had set up to my google account, then ended up swapping it for a laptop DP had (we were living in separate countries) and I thought he'd wiped it to set it up with his account, but it turned out he'd just deleted mine off the phone and put his on, and now they are weirdly linked but only on some devices - that tablet, and the laptop we both share, the Chome on that has somehow merged both of our bookmarks and histories for example.

I think that devices are made to link up in so many different ways that sometimes it's easy to do things accidentally and not realise you've done it, especially if you aren't technically minded or tend to just click through things without reading them properly (both could apply to your average 13 year old). Similarly the documentation for things is so minimal nowadays that it's possible to go through years of using technology without ever being aware that you can get something to do this when perhaps you would welcome it.

If I were you OP I would take it to a registered Apple support place as they are most likely to be able to tell you what's going on and how to fix it.

MmeLindor Sun 24-Nov-13 13:02:38

Some of them do sound like the kind of sites that would advertise on blogs. Is it possible she is clicking by mistake and doesn't want to admit?

I got taken to a really euuugh site recently on a reputable blog.

Although it sounds like it is happening a lot, so perhaps you need to have a look at the sites that she is visiting.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed Sun 24-Nov-13 13:13:43

enlightenme Disqus isn't a discussion site. It's software that site owners can install to allow comments. Many bloggers also use it because it often has more functionality than built-in commenting systems. Your DD or DH wouldn't need to visit the Disqus site to have it appear in their history because it's installed on all sorts of perfectly innocent sites.

A lot of the other stuff you mention does sound like the kind of thing that turns up in ads.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 13:16:42

She has her own laptop that is now broke. And her iTunes will be on that. We did use it for a little while, when dh's laptop broke, but that was years ago and I'm not sure if he will have gone on iTunes then.

To complicate matters, that iPhone is his last phone, he updated to a Samsung galaxy s3, but kept the same sim card/number/network. But I think you can use androids for I cloud can't you?

Too complicated for me, can't even get in I cloud.

I may post in an iPhone forum or take it to an apple store I think.

MyMILisfromHELL Sun 24-Nov-13 13:22:37

Does a 13 year old really need an iPhone?

DS has an ipad linked and registered to my iCloud and iTunes account

I realised a few days ago whilst checking his browsing history that my history appears on it too !
I think it is because both iPads are synced in the cloud and things stored on both devices
How this implicates the iPod I don't know though because presumably that was set up separately to the iPhone ?

Is that really the point myMIL ?

CoconutRing Sun 24-Nov-13 13:28:26

Hi OP. This has happened to me. I have an iPhone and a iPad and occasionally I get random porn sites. Titles include, "Local Slags" and "Dogging" websites. Some pages are pictures of women in compromising positions attending to men's vegetables!!

I have no idea why this happens to me. I am the only one that uses them. I browse Mumsnet, BBC, Internet banking etc, nothing sexual or pornographic.

I have changed my privacy settings to "Do not Track" and that seemed to stop them.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 14:12:18

mymil. no she doesnt need an iphone.
she was given it.

i know i dont need to explain myself, but its sunday afternoon, dh is doing overtime, the housework id done (ish) and the pre schoolers are currenrly playing with the washing baskets- so ive nothing better to do.

dd wasnt allowed a phone at all until high school. she wasnt allowed a facebook account until 13, she doesnt have a tv in her room, never has,. and we dont have a tv in the house. she isnt allowed a boyfriend until she is 16, and i keep her phone from bedtimes for 2 reasons, 1, so she cant take it to school and 2, so if she misbehaves (mostly its bloody backchat) i keep the phone as a consequence.

im not perfect but im not liberal either.

coconut, not that im questioning what you say, grin but how come i never get these in my history?

im a right one for clicking on the links on mumsnet as well- bloody fleshlight,. sootikins and dragon butter- to name a few ! and im always squeaky clean.

disclaimer- i take no responsibility for your reactions, if your curiousity gets the better of you!

switched to phone as tablet not connecting-hencw typos. lack of capitals etc phone has cracked screen smile

Bradsplit Sun 24-Nov-13 14:13:19

i get emails form "local slags" who apparently want my attention.

Is she being spammed?

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 14:24:10

what does that mean- being spammed?

how do i stop it if she is please?

CoconutRing Sun 24-Nov-13 14:33:51

Another way to stop the pop-ups is to stop using Safari as a browser and use Google with strict safe settings.

Bradsplit Sun 24-Nov-13 14:36:44

maybe she got an email with a link in it she clicked on

SontaranForADestructiveStroll Sun 24-Nov-13 14:40:23

Yup, happened here too and it was all my fault. Well my love of crappy gossip sites.

Basically came across via the cloud, so turned off sharing in settings and dis installed safari and put on k9 browser which is pretty good at blocking even dodgy search terms.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 15:15:10

So what your saying is, it might not be the dd, dh, auntie, uncle, or cousin? prof plum in the drawing room with the candlestick wink

She gets loads of emails brad usually innocuous ones to do with swap it, etc apps, joining up stuff etc.

I do try to keep an eye on it all!

I will ask dh how to get safari off and Google on.

SontaranForADestructiveStroll Sun 24-Nov-13 15:23:41

Well it might be the auntie if she likes Blind Gossip grin

Although actually I think they have sorted it out as it was happening almost every time I browsed, haven't had a dodgy pop up for a few weeks...

PenguinsAreCute Sun 24-Nov-13 15:27:25

the websites you listed sound like pop ups. get them a lot on my mac when looking at notmal sites

ThenSheSaid Sun 24-Nov-13 15:36:47

I would do a factory reset as mentioned previously. Have you updated the operating system to iOS7? If so then look at the following (I have posted this before). You should also have controls on your home network as well as taking the following precautions.

BLOCKING ADULT WEB CONTENT (ie porn 'n stuff)

Even if you have decent controls on your home network and it's worth following the info in the following THIS LINK This feature is even more important if your child has a 3G device or accesses the internet via networks with no controls.

PRIVACY

I recommend that anyone who is concerned about privacy and has Apple devices running iOS7 have a look at THIS LINK. It details how you can prevent pesky Apple and other apps accessing information about you.

Disclaimer, I am happy to have the above info corrected. I think its right but I am not at all an expert

This info is for iOS7 only.

CoconutRing Sun 24-Nov-13 15:39:53

It's no ones fault. I used to get pictures of naked ladies when I searched for recipes. grin

ThenSheSaid Sun 24-Nov-13 15:39:55

You should also opt out of search based advertising through Google. It's easy to do and only takes a moment. You still get ads but they will be random ones. INFO HERE.
I occasionally click on a dodgy link on Mumsnet and I don't want to see any 'related' ads. confused

IfNotNowThenWhen Sun 24-Nov-13 15:53:45

Sounds infected.

virus protection

I would take it for virus removal, and in future tell her to be careful, not click on ads (a lot of malware in ads even on reputable sites) and make sure her browser is set up so that it protects from virus. This is a link to mobile virus protection, although there is debate as to how effective these really are.
If it were my 13 year old? I don't think I would be leaving them alone with the internet through any device, but then I have a boy, so maybe different.

Xfirefly Sun 24-Nov-13 16:05:34

happened to our iPad. pornographic images kept randomly flashing up.

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 16:09:36

thenshesaid oh, duh!

Clicked on your 1st link and as I was reading it, I remembered that I did that. That might be why they haven't come on again since.......

Totally and utterly forgot not sure I can remember the password now either. hmm

ThenSheSaid Sun 24-Nov-13 16:52:11

If you have iOS7 and have blocked porn you should be fine. Just check the settings from time to time and, if I were you, I would make sure you have restrictions on your home network as an additional safety measure for when she is surfing at home.

I presume that you have enabled 'restrictions' on the iPhone and you HAVE NOT given your DD the restrictions code smile

enlightenmequick Sun 24-Nov-13 20:30:40

No, definitely not given her the password.

I have just restricted the iPod too, and deleated the web addresses and given it back to her. She isn't too impressed that some songs have now been restricted on it, but she hasn't kicked up a fuss and at least I know it's working.

Thanks a lot everyone.

friday16 Wed 27-Nov-13 23:13:43

I have an iphone, a macbook, an imac and an ipad. None of the sites on one cross over to the other. Sorry.

Actually, they do now. If you use all of his late Steveness's latest toys then Safari supports "iCloud tabs". If I click on the "cloud" icon on Safari on my laptop, then I can see a list of the tabs I currently have open on my iPhone and on my desktop in the office, and similarly were I to look on my iPhone there'd be a list of all the tabs I currently have open on my laptop. It's like having a dynamically updated list of temporary bookmarks for the things I've got open on other machines. It's really handy. I can walk out of the office and immediately pick up on my phone a paper I was reading on my desktop.

OP, you need to factory reset the devices and start from scratch.

rpitchfo Wed 27-Nov-13 23:19:22

The local slags stuff, fuck buddies stuff are very common pop ups on all kind of sites on the dodgier/ less secure side of the internet. It's not hard to click on one by accident.

I imagine a few relationships have probably been put under a lot of strain due to this.

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