MacBoor Air or Pro? Please help me decide, I am clueless and an Apple virgin

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Well, almost.
I have an iPhone 4S which is clearly cleverer than me and sometimes frustrates me.

I am currently on a Dell Inspiron 6400 which is about 7 years old, used to be DH and is as slow as treacle, frequently crashes, requiring restarts etc.

We are slowly changing from a PC family to an Apply one I think although the desktop and main computer is still a PC which runs our network.

I use the laptop mainly for MNing playing in the internet, occasional work related stuff ie emails etc, and would like to have my photos on whatever new lap-device I get, rather than the desktop that is often monopolised by darling offspring hmm

So, any advice? Air or Pro? What size screen and memory/processing speed? Currently I am thinking I'd rather compromise on size and have shedloads of memory and speed - any thoughts?

I am not a gamer, so anything that would support htat is of no interest to me.

Does this sound like a good deal?

What other software would I need?

I use computers at work and am not a Luddite, but am not that interested in the Inner Workings of my machine. Now that I have to choose, I find I am clueless as to what's essential and what isn't. Gah!

Should I make an appointment at an Apple store?

Come on, ye geeks! smile

Someone has got to have an opinion on this??

Amrapaali Mon 23-Sep-13 20:56:25

Aaah MacBoor! The ruder cousin that Apple is keeping under wraps. Sorry no techy ideas... Someone knowledgeable will rock up soon. smile

bonzo77 Mon 23-Sep-13 21:00:04

I recently had the same dilemma. DH bought me (!) the air for my birthday. The pro has a DVD drive. But the DVD drive in both his mac desk top and my ancient mac laptop died very fast, so we thought if I really needed the drive I'd get an external one. I don't know care about the exact spec of the MacBook Air he got me, but we did discuss that really the most basic would do for MN, FB and internet shopping, the odd bit of word processing and my photos. Sorry, that's possibly not as technical as you were hoping for, but that was our rationale.

Amrapaali, ah yes, the Curse of the Thread Title Typo strikes again blush. I think I would get on just fine with the ruder cousin of the MacBook grin.

bonzo, every single word you've posted is relevant to me, so thanks. It sounds like you are using yours for similar things that I do.

I specced a MacBook Air on line with everything that sounded vaguely interesting and then stopped when I had breached the 2K mark... shock.

Lomaamina Tue 24-Sep-13 19:59:30

I've a MacBook Air 11" and it's fine for all you list. It's also super light so a diddle to carry around. I got mine with an educational discount a few years ago for around 800 so I've no idea how you got to 2000!

Lomaamina Tue 24-Sep-13 20:00:07

Doddle. Autocorrect fail.

Lomaamina Tue 24-Sep-13 20:02:53

11-inch is quite small if you're doing any prolonged work or complicated swapping between documents.

128GB should be plenty storage

Thanks, Loma.

I understand the Air does not have spinning harddrive, memory is all Flash? Is that an issue??
I am not bothered about it not having a DVD/CD-ROM player - should I ever feel I need it, I'd get the external one.

Lomaamina Tue 24-Sep-13 22:08:19

I've no idea what the significance of a lack of spinning hard drive is, other than that may be how the get it so thin. I can vouch for its working memory (not up on the jargon - I mean, as opposed to storage) and I've created quite large, 30MB graphics heavy powerpoints without any pause in operation. Really an excellent buy, so long as, as I mentioned, you're not bothered by the small screen.

southeastdweller Tue 24-Sep-13 22:17:49

I've been about thinking a lot about this too. General advice seems to be if you've got the money to get the Pro then get it as it's much more powerful than the Air...but the lightness and portability of the Air is really attractive confused.

BetsyBell Tue 24-Sep-13 22:24:28

Macbook air is lovely. I've got the little one (11") and it's really quiet, light, portable, looks great and I'm glued to it for everything including netflix as well as work and interwebbing. The hard drive is solid state which is a GOOD THING (can't remember why though grin )

"Solid state" - that's the phrase!
I think I need a visit to the Apple store, don't I? Speak to a Genius grin
Nobody with 13'' around to convince me of its relative merits then?

I could stretch to a Pro, but would rather not spend the money on functionality they I won't use confused

that I won't use

Sorry

southeastdweller Tue 24-Sep-13 22:45:16

So what's your thinking about the retina screen models? The chap at the Apple store told me don't bother if you don't edit lots of photos, for work or your hobby.

PiratePanda Tue 24-Sep-13 22:46:34

The new macbook pros have solid state hard drives too, so no difference there. They also don't have DVD drives any more so you'll need an external one.

All things being equal, get a pro. I've had both, and the memory in the air is tiny. In fact the only advantage of the air is its weight.

southeastdweller Tue 24-Sep-13 22:46:40

Oh and the new Pro's are out within the next two months, which means the current ones may get reduced then, as they were last year.

So what makes the Pros that much heavier??

When I specced my 2k 13'' Air on-line it got really expensive because I added lots of memory. I don't understand the difference between, say, 2GB of 'storage' and 512k 'Flash' confusedblush

nancerama Tue 24-Sep-13 23:04:41

I had a 13" MacBook Pro and loved it until it was taken in a burglary. For whatever reason, my insurers replaced it with an Air, and I have no complaints at all.

It's fast and so very light. DM has a pro, as does DH, and I find them heavy and unwieldy.

trashcansinatra Tue 24-Sep-13 23:14:55

If you want to take it with you, go for an Air. If you need more disk space or want more grunt go for a pro.

We've just bought a 13" 256GB and it is fab, but disk isn't big enough for all our music and photos so they stay on the Pro (and a backup disk of course!)

ParkerTheThief Wed 25-Sep-13 17:51:28

If you're not going to be lugging it around on a regular basis I'd get a pro

PiratePanda Wed 25-Sep-13 19:08:01

I lug my 15" pro everywhere and I have chronic back trouble. It's got lighter and lighter over the years (my first was one of the original titanium ones....beautiful machine!)

southeastdweller Wed 25-Sep-13 20:44:55

What size laptop are you used to then, OP?

ThePuffyShirt Wed 25-Sep-13 20:47:30

I have a newish pro and love it very much.

What size am I used to? No idea... blush

<goes to get measuring tape>

Ok then, Ancient Dell I am sitting on seems to have a 15 1/2'' screensize.
I probably won't be carrying it around with me that much unless I fall totally in love with it.
Hm. So, I'd better invest my money in memory and harddrive, eh? Rather than cuteness.

southeastdweller Wed 25-Sep-13 20:55:53

Think a Pro is more suitable, then. You can't get 11" in those and don't forget the new ones are coming out soon.

Ambassadoryouarespoilingme Wed 25-Sep-13 21:04:34

hi
I have a 13inch Pro, and I think its great. I do need to lug it around and seriously considered the Air, but I do a lot of work on the laptop and need a computer which has a CD drive etc. I have no complaints, although by the end of a work day, i'm not sorry to put it down.
The best bit is the synching of your calendars across devices so I have a better chance of staying on top of what is going on.

SoupDragon Wed 25-Sep-13 21:12:02

I have the bigger Air and I love it. I use it for much the same as you other than photos- they are on my ipad.

The Flash drives make it boot up very quickly and I think that is also what makes it so thin and gorgeous

I am off to the Apple store tomorrow <excited>
Only to get information and to windoshop, you understand grin
I shall leave my credit card at home, just in case...

Photos are a bit of a concern - that's one question to ask, ta.

southeastdweller Wed 02-Oct-13 17:59:06

So how did it go?

nancerama Wed 02-Oct-13 18:05:00

John Lewis have a 2 year warrantee on all electrical products at the moment. If you're going to buy, that's a great option.

Well.

I am still confused, but more knowledgably so IYKWIM.

I think my ideal machine would be a MacBook Air specced to the rafters with 8GB RAM and 512kb Flash grin = 1449 big fat smackeroonies sad. So that's not likely to happen....

The chap I spoke to was v patient with me and spent a lot of time on all my inane questions, but sadly could not make the decision for me. Bastard!

nancerama, if I bought from John Lewis would I be able to also buy into the Apple One to One support for the first year? I clearly need a lot of tuition to get my head round the Apple-Otherness hmm.

All the gadgets were v shiny and lovely and sleek - whatever I'll end up getting it will be MINE and mine alone <glowers at kids>. My Precioussssss grin

nancerama Thu 03-Oct-13 13:15:46

I had to get my last MacBook Air from Currys, at the insistence of my insurer. I've had plenty of fun with the genius's in the apple store. So long as you register your machine online, it doesn't matter where it was bought as all machines come with AppleCare for the first year, I believe.

You may want to double check with Apple first though, just in case the deal with JL is different.

Thanks for that, I'll look at John Lewis - looks like a v good offer smile

Aaaargh.

Sorry to have to revive this thread.

I think I will buy from Apple store or online because that is a condition of their One to One support for the first year.

Dh thinks I am a fool to consider the Air because it has the less powerful processor and no player.

I like the idea of Solid State Memory (Flash) over a spinning harddrive and how small/light and sexy the Air is. I'd go for the 13in screen and add extra memory.

So, I feel I am back to my originaly question: Air or Pro??
<tears out hair>

Eastpoint Mon 07-Oct-13 04:57:07

Definitely buy it from the Apple Store. You can only get OnetoOne if you buy it direct & it's fab. You can sign up to one on one sessions to help you with a particular issue, there are courses you can attend on particular apps, like iMovie or iPhoto.

southeastdweller Mon 07-Oct-13 20:35:36

The new retina screen Pro's are lighter compared to the other Pro's and just as powerful. They weigh 1.6kg each so almost as portable as the Air's.
No player but then would you really play CD's and DVD's much on it?

No, I am not bothered about the lack of player at all.
At a push I'd get an external one.

The Retina screen Pros are vair, vair nice but also Even More Expensive.
So, no. Sadly, no sad.

Just to let all you lovely people know that I am typing this from my shiny new Air grin.
13 in, 4GB, 256GB.

I am vair, vair pleased gringringrin

Oops, thank you for all your help.
That's what I really came on to post.
Premature posting due to excitement blush

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