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That grafted tree with 40 varieties. ..

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CuttedUpPear · 26/07/2015 07:32

Is anyone else thinking it would be a bugger to prune correctly?

Apart from the fact that it doesn't actually appear to be real. There have been photoshopped pics doing the rounds on social media and I haven't actually clicked through as the idea, although interesting, annoys me with its gimmickery. It reminds me too much of the T&M catalogue pics with their photoshopped pics of an imaginary grandchild stood next to a substantial lemonandorange tree in a tiny pot. Angry

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funnyperson · 26/07/2015 07:51

Are they photoshopped? It hadnt occurred to me to think that but of course you are right!
The nationsl apple orchard place in Kent might know. My apples are being trained into 1) a u shape and 2) an espalier and they haven't flowered at all this year .

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DoreenLethal · 26/07/2015 08:17

40? Try 250...

One of the Brogdale [the national apple orchard place in Kent] staff took home scions and grafted them all onto his own tree...it needs lots of support but it is real.

metro.co.uk/2013/09/29/apple-max-how-one-fruit-tree-came-to-have-250-different-varieties-growing-on-it-4127875/

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CuttedUpPear · 26/07/2015 08:17

Lots of the T&M pics are photoshopped, have a closer look and you'll see the same combination of blooms repeated again and again. It makes me despair really, any amateur gardener would be really disappointed by the reality of these plants and possibly not bother learning to garden.

The 40 varieties tree seems to be a photoshopped projection into the future of this tree - the bottom half of the picture looks like an architect's render.

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DoreenLethal · 26/07/2015 08:18

But thanks OP - I am currently writing a session plan for fruit growing and I needed to get a pic of this for the resource pack so it has reminded me so I have saved it down ready for tomorrow.

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CuttedUpPear · 26/07/2015 09:03

What do you reckon on the pruning plan for the 40 varieties tree thout Doreen? All stone fruit I think.

The 250 varieties of apple would be simple to prune provided they are all spur bearers and not a mix of spur and tip bearers.

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funnyperson · 26/07/2015 11:57

How do you know if a tree is a tip or a spur bearer?

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DoreenLethal · 26/07/2015 14:10

What do you reckon on the pruning plan for the 40 varieties tree thout Doreen? All stone fruit I think.

I haven't seen this so I have no idea...what do you mean stone fruit? Is it a prunus or malus - you can't get both onto the same rootstock...I thought you were saying it was an apple...

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funnyperson · 26/07/2015 15:07

www.sciencealert.com/this-tree-produces-40-different-types-of-fruit

I want one. I need one. I would love to see one.

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DoreenLethal · 26/07/2015 15:13

How do you know if a tree is a tip or a spur bearer?

Depends on the variety

What do you reckon on the pruning plan for the 40 varieties tree thout Doreen? All stone fruit I think.

With this sort of thing, you have to intimately know your fruit varieties and have each branch labelled. If only I had the time...all my apples, pears, cherries and plums would have more than one variety. I just don't have the time to spare these days.

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CuttedUpPear · 26/07/2015 23:13

Yes I think it would be a nightmare to maintain productively (if it's even real).

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shovetheholly · 27/07/2015 18:42

The tree is real, but the image that's circulating on social media is a mockup drawing! A more realistic picture of the trees here: www.artsy.net/artwork/sam-van-aken-tree-of-40-fruit-installation-at-the-armory-show-2011

It's by an artist called Sam Van Aken who does these things as a kind of public art - he has several 40 fruit trees, and is aiming to do a 100 fruit one too. He's even done a TED talk.

The miracle to me is that he's managed to get so much press coverage for what is essentially a really old idea of grafting in different species onto the same rootstock.

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CuttedUpPear · 27/07/2015 23:04

Yes indeed. I've seen some comments on social media that really surprised me - people don't know that grafting is even a thing.
I suppose I'm coming from a very different perspective though.

Anyway, why can't we see the real thing, why the mockup?

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shovetheholly · 28/07/2015 10:51

It's amazing that more people don't realise that virtually every fruit tree is a graft. And a bit depressing too. I would love to see schools teaching kids about it.

I suspect that the whole press for this was very much based on lazy journos thinking that technicolour piece of photoshopping was real and not really thinking to check up whether this was really a story or not.

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