1000 quid club revisited

(142 Posts)
DolomitesDonkey Mon 15-Oct-12 06:59:14

How is everyone getting on? Since our last thread I am moving in to a totally new area, once which I'd wanted to do (many a time), but didn't feel that I "could" - for a variety of daft reasons (e.g., self-esteem!).

I've really been struggling the last few weeks finding the time to work on this new project - my paid job has been pretty full on - e.g., 11 hour days - then with 2 tiny ones on top of that - and the change of season isn't helping.

I long for the days when the children will need to be prised from their beds rather than shouting in my face from 5am.

Has anyone got any tips for this? I'm really a morning person but my toddler is destroying my will to live, never mind my will to work. I'm open to all sorts of tips from behavioural/reward strategies through to "best doping devices". wink

I tried working late the other night but my brain turns to mush by 8pm.

I had been planning to attend the great British business show in London next month but as my new business isn't ready to launch I just feel the timing isn't quite right. I know we talk about procrastination but it's not simply that... it'd be a 300 euro day out which seems a lot for what I feel it could return to me right now. Anyway, if anyone's interested the tickets are free and there are more details here:-


bacon Tue 16-Oct-12 16:36:13

Really 5am? Seriously we dont put up with that. If DS2 gets up he goes back to bed and we have done this firmly on many occassions. It has paid off as he does shout around 6.45/7am now. No one can put up with a 5am start surprised how your little ones arent dropping at 9am! I didnt move both of the cot till nearly 3 though so having a bed too young leads to this I'm afraid. Could go on the baby whisper forum did read some tips about body clock adjusting on there.

Not surprised you cant work after 8pm. Even at 7am start I do struggle many nights past 9pm and find if I do too much too late I dont sleep properly.

Working with young children in tow is no fun I'm afraid. Now they are older, my time is taken up with other childrens stuff, cleaning, packed lunches, uniforms etc.

My business officially started todaygrin. I phoned HMRC to register for tax, and got my business card designs to the printer today.
One thing that has surprised me is how much people will pay for unique things that are easy for me to make (personalised framed stories) and how little they will pay for things that are a lot of hassle (handmade puppet party bags). I need more market research.
My reach is pretty good right now though, I've been name dropping my business everywhere, and it's really paying off.

MrsMargoLeadbetter Sat 20-Oct-12 08:34:20

Saw this event which might be of interest to you £1000-threaders www.entrepreneurs2012.co.uk/tickets.html. There is talk of free tickets, but it sounds like you need to get there very early in the am to get a seat! Also in London, so not accessible for all.

ZombTEE Sat 20-Oct-12 08:42:54

The only way I've managed to make my company even a little bit successful is by having childcare.

My son has been going to daycare since he was 13 months, when I launched my company, and now goes to preschool 5 mornings a week and is picked up by a child minder 2 times a week.

Otherwise I'd have no time to work as I also can't work after he's in bed due to brain mush.

Novascotia33 Sun 21-Oct-12 22:26:07

I had an early riser like you, and this really worked: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002APJCNE/?tag=hydra0b-21&hvadid=9557947149&ref=asc_df_B002APJCNE. I recommended to a friend and it worked for them too.

I'm a night owl, and get a ton of work done between 9pm and midnight, but I need to sleep until 6 - 6:30 for this to be possible. Like has been said above 5am is too early to put in a late night.

At the least it's worth a shot for £20. My little boy still woke early sometimes, but didn't bother me until his clock said it was 'morning'.

Best of luck.

DolomitesDonkey Mon 22-Oct-12 14:50:07

hi novascotia - I actually have that clock - and whilst he takes great delight in reading the book - and he quite clearly understands the concept, there is an underlying "fuck you" in his eyes. wink

I would like to be harder on him about this - i.e., bellow "back to bed right now!", but because he's sharing a room with his baby brother I tend to give in rather than having them both scream themselves puce.

A 5am start is my preferred start - however, this is without helpers thankyouverymuch!

I do have daycare, but obviously I work full-time too - so my options are limited, it's not as though I can sit down with a latte and a laptop 10-3 daily.

caramelwaffle Tue 23-Oct-12 20:35:50

I'll be booking tickets to that event; thanks DD

Cubaba Wed 24-Oct-12 22:35:46

OK - call me stupid but what is the significance of the title of this topic "1000 quid club revisited"? (relatively new to the forum here) blush

DolomitesDonkey Thu 25-Oct-12 15:19:13

hi Cubaba It's the intention that we will earn 1000 pounds a day. smile

JurassicFart Fri 26-Oct-12 16:03:22

1000 pounds a day! Marking my place ... I'm a freelance writer, currently earning much less than that. Happy to swap tips smile

Cubaba Mon 29-Oct-12 23:01:00

Oohh...I like the sound of that! I'd work for 10 days of the month and bugger off for the other 20/21!

fatfingers Tue 30-Oct-12 12:35:55

Hi all, I followed the original 1000k threads and was inspired by them although I didn't actually post. For some time I have looked at setting up my own counselling service, as I have specialist knowledge and training in working with specific groups and I believe there has been a gap in service provision in this area for years.

I haven't actually done anything about this out of fear that I'm not good enough but I'm really contemplating taking the plunge now. The counselling would be largely group based so I would need to hire a room. I would also need another person to facilitate the groups with me and I'm worried that to cover those costs and make a profit, the price would put people off attending. Any advice on where to start planning properly or is anyone willing just to give me a push?

Xenia Sun 04-Nov-12 12:19:18

The original thread was someone looking to earn £1k a month and those of us who earn £1k a day said don't limit yourself.

Glad to hear people are getting started. I certainly think for a lot of people working for yourself and eating all that you kill in that sense is much more fun than hunting for someone else who then takes most of the spoils and just tosses you a few scraps.

Xenia Sun 04-Nov-12 12:22:24

Just as a reminder as bits of it were interesting and some female consultants and others who earn £1000 a day posted some details of types of work they did here is the link to the first thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/freelancers/1538634-How-might-I-earn-1000-a-month-working-from-home

porridgelover Sun 04-Nov-12 12:51:45

Glad to see this is still going.
I bit the bullet and set up contact stuff for my little business. While I am a long way off £1000 a month yet, it is a goal....and perhaps ultimately more than that.

fatfingers I am in a specialist therapy area of work; and more-or-less inspired by the thread, I just did it. I am a single parent to 3 DC with an abusive exDH and one DC with SN. If I can get started, you can.

DolomitesDonkey Sun 04-Nov-12 13:03:51

Since the previous thread started I have totally changed the direction in which I'm going and have started something new. We have a live date of 21st Dec and the backing of several universities plus a UK MP and an MEP.

So now I feel under pressure to deliver! ;)

I swing from thinking "it will be great" to wondering how I will ever get it all done. I've had crisis of faith wondering how or why I ever felt myself capable.

We are also all battling lurgy this end and I feel run down.

I'm loving my ft paid job right now which really helps as I don't spend 40 hours a week feeling resentful.

I re-introduced the special alarm clock and this time it's worked! smile

I am dead on my feet and need to earn $$$ so I can pay someone else to clean the house and do the 101 other things which always need doing.

How is everyone else getting on?

Xenia Sun 04-Nov-12 13:45:30

As I am in year 18 of working for myself and my children are so old they help rather than hinder it is all dead easy but I am always keen for other women to do well so good luck to everyone on the thread. As ever lots of things I try fail but enough succeed.

Paintbynumbers Wed 07-Nov-12 10:08:33

Can I join?

I left my lovely job 4 years ago after DC2. I left London and moved back to my hometown.

Since then I have been consulting in my previous field and earning decent money. However, I know I could be doing much better but my self esteem has really taken a knock.

I feel in leaving London I've really shot myself in the foot as I don't have the time for networking. I also feel I've lost a lot of the status I used to have in my quite senior position and am a little embarrassed about being such a small one man band. Essentially, I'm now selling to the people who used to work for me!

I know this is all in my own head and I just need to work on my confidence. Lurking on these threads have really helped. I've been a lot more forceful in looking for work and negotiating my fee which seems to be paying off. I still close my eyes when I press send and assume they are going to laugh blush.

But thank you, for giving me the kick up the arse I needed.

Xenia Wed 07-Nov-12 10:13:32

Of course you can. It sounds as if you are doing the right things. Women often undersell themselves and quote too low and men often think they are the bee's knees and quote double what they hope to get. I am generalising a bit there but studies do show it.

You can probably network on line and it may help you are in your hometown. You can probably just turn the status around in your own mind. Now you are the owner, entrepreneur, top dog. Before you were just part of a bigger thing and probably did not own it all. So arguably your status is higher now. Better to own than work under PAYE as someone's underling.

greenbelly Thu 08-Nov-12 23:38:58

I'm joining too!! (See, I can be assertive)

I started my business in March and it has really taken off. Not £1000 a day though... Not yet. It will be as soon as if not before my youngest is in nursery more often.

caramelwaffle Fri 09-Nov-12 00:19:46

Good luck, greenbelly

Xenia Fri 09-Nov-12 10:15:48

Yes, good luck with it

aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 20:45:46

Hi everyone - I feel like I birthed my business last night! Have been disliking feeling 'owned' by my job (7.30 - 5.30 most days) for several years now and have been wondering what kind of business would be good for me. And I've been inspired by the 1000 a day thread as it really did lift my expectations and made me believe that these things are possible.

Anyway, quite suddenly (as in less than a week) I've come up with a great idea and I'm in the 'just so excited' stage. It uses my professional expertise but also fills a gap in the market. I've decided my business name, applied for a business number and now need to buy a domain name. And write a business plan.

I'm actually quite terrified, but excited at the same time. Will need to work FT for the next 6 - 9 months while I set it up and then probably go PT while it hopefully gets going.

It's an online business so I need a great website. Any ideas at what stage I should develop it and how much I can expect to pay for it?

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 21:55:03

Am jumping in. I read the original thread and was so inspired.

I am currently on maternity 'leave' although have no job to go back to and have a number of income streams which I'm trying to grow. It's hard, though, with a toddler and a 4 month old.

aroomofherown, have you considered having a WordPress site? (WordPress.org, not .com). I have several and they are VERY easy, also if you can't be arsed to do it yourself you can outsource to someone else for not much money. I taught myself how to use it but I also have a freelance web designer and coder who will update the sites for me. She built a totally new site for my DH for around £350.

WordPress is great because it's open source code, basically everyone can weigh in with updates and apps and things like that. I pay for some premium themes (templates) but pretty much everything else is free (I do pay for hosting and domain names obviously but those are pretty cheap).

aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 22:00:57

Ceasnake thanks for your advice. I had a quick peek at wordpress.org but doubted my ability to do my own website. Not knowing anything about it I wasn't sure if I should leap in, but it seems recommended so I think I'll give a decent play on the weekend. I have a good friend who is a graphic designer so I'm sure he'll give me some tips.

I know zip about anything in your last paragraph. Open source code? This world is a complete new language to me!

I want to buy a domain name but not sure which package eg hosting/managing etc to get. As I don't have a website yet, do I just buy the name? Can I change the deal later to hosting or a different type of hosting etc?

aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 22:03:55

Also, what do you mean by "everyone else can weigh in"?

Gosh I sound so green blush

Basically although its web-based business, it's mostly classifieds, forums and articles so I don't think it's too technical or complicated. Am I right?

There is just so much to learn. It's incredibly exciting though.

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 22:14:44

Sorry to confuse, I mean that all those geeks out there can weigh in with their new HTML codes and apps and everything. A bit like Twitter, where people can just develop something vaguely Twitter-based and spread it around. But don't worry about that smile

I would suggest that you:

Buy your domain name (I tend to use GoDaddy and 123-reg)

Buy your hosting (the virtual 'space' - a bit like a garage for your domain name's car, as it were). Without getting too complicated, it's better to have the two on separate companies, just in case). Chose a hosting company that offers '1 click' WordPress installation.I use Hostgator and TotalChoice, they are American companies but there are plenty of UK ones as well.

Log into your domain name company, find the Domain Name Management part (sometimes called DNS Management or DNS Servers)

Enter the DNS code from your hosting company (should be in your introductory email)

This will direct your domain name to your hosting account.

Go through the instructions to install WordPress on your hosting account.

Voila, you have a WordPress website on your own domain name and you can customise it as you wish.

I know, it sounds completely webspeak and horrendous. I remember posting on my first blog 'WordPress, they said it was easy and they LIED!'.

Take it from me, if I can learn this shit, you can smile

aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 22:17:10

grin it's pretty bloody easy to confuse me at this stage.

That sounds like simple and effective advice - just what I need. So another stupid question: the website isn't live until I launch it, non?

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 22:20:49

It'll be live once the domain name servers are pointed to the hosting - that can take up to 24 hours but sometimes it's instant. But I wouldn't worry too much about that as the chances of anyone actually FINDING it are minimal. That's something that no one tells you about online businesses - unless you can get traffic to your website, you don't HAVE a business.

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 22:23:39

I wrote a book about this, hope I'm not infringing guidelines by mentioning it here but it gives you the basics of web-based business if you want to check it out. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Webspeak-Beginners-Website-Business-ebook/dp/B007Q42PG0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1352931783&sr=8-8

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 22:24:05
aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 22:28:50

Ah. OK. I'm hoping to drum up some bubbles using twitter and facebook via friends in the industry so I should probably get the business plan done (i'm so early days) and some copy written as soon as possible then.

How do people get traffice to their website? That's my biggest obstacle at the moment.

So do I create the website once it's live or do I create it and press the button and voila - I have a webpage?

Sorry for the myriad questions

aroomofherown Wed 14-Nov-12 22:32:38

X-posted. I think I might need that book - particularly as I'm a control freak and want to do every detail myself at this stage. And lets face it, I clearly know about as much as a frog does about this stuff grin

Ceasnake Wed 14-Nov-12 22:35:36

If you install WordPress then you will have an incredible basic, one page website. The trick is to keep adding pages, and posts and content. And yes, getting traffic is the holy grail! Lots of options:

Google Adwords (Pay per click advertising) - fast but can be expensive
Guest posting and commenting on other people's blogs
Article marketing (writing articles and putting your website URL in the biography bit)
Press releases
Putting your website URL on everything (business cards, leaflets etc)
Social media
Email marketing
Writing a Kindle book and including your website details in it

There are loads of others smile

FriendlyLadybird Thu 15-Nov-12 20:54:36

My first Mumsnet post -- and anyone who thinks they're rubbish at technology should take heart: I managed to stuff up logging in!

Anyway, I used to be a consultant (sole trader) until the financial crisis rather did for freelancers for a while. So I did some interim management and finally accepted a permanent job ... from which I have recently been made redundant.

So I'm starting again, but properly this time. I've set up as a Ltd company, am now the proud owner of TWO websites and domain names, and just have to get some business now. I provide communications consultancy for biggish businesses and affordable PR support (plus lots of free resources) for small businesses, so I hope I can both help people here as well as maybe get some help and support in return!

aroomofherown Thu 15-Nov-12 21:33:07

Caesnake I don't have a kindle sad
FriendlyLadBird that sounds like a good idea. What's the benefit of a Ltd company over just working as a sole trader?

strandednomore Fri 16-Nov-12 13:02:04

£1,000 a day? I was hoping for £1,000 a year!
Think I might be aiming too low...

FriendlyLadybird Fri 16-Nov-12 14:45:53

aroomofherown -- I'm a limited company because, basically, if I get sued for providing bad advice (unlikely with the PR service but possible for the consultancy) I would not be personally liable for any compensation I might have to pay. I have insurance too, of course, but being a Ltd Co provides belt and braces.

aroomofherown Fri 16-Nov-12 18:12:46

Ah ok I see - thanks. I probably won't need that level of protection I think, but I will look into it.

aroomofherown Fri 16-Nov-12 18:35:11

Quick question: WordPress.org is encouraging me to set up a blog, but I want to design a website. Also, I've found the theme etc I want to use but I have to pay to upgrade to be able to do this. I thought it was free - am I in the wrong section?

Ceasnake Wed 21-Nov-12 22:46:33

WordPress will say it's a blog but you can make it into a website. Instead of having the home page as your blog, you can set it as a 'static page'. Also, some themes are free but some you will have to pay for (depends how fancy you want it).
I would really recommend doing a bit of research on WordPress - learn the difference between posts and pages and how to create a website rather than a blog (you'll use the same WordPress technology but it'll be set up slightly differently).
Sorry, not being very clear, I feel - I have a terrible cold!

Ceasnake Fri 23-Nov-12 23:27:58

Also, you don't need a Kindle to read Kindle books - download the free Kindle app from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771and bob's your uncle...

Ceasnake Fri 23-Nov-12 23:28:40
SoftKittyWarmKitty Sat 24-Nov-12 16:10:53

I'm so glad to find this thread. I was on the original 1000 a day thread and since then I've done...eff all sad. My issue is I really want to start my own business, possibly more than one as the ideal would be to have multiple income streams, but I just have no idea what to do. It's such a stumbling block for me. I feel I have few practical, vocational skills to offer, so am finding it difficult to discover my niche.

Kitty I sometimes find it useful to make a "vision" board, where you use pictures from magazines, newspapers etc to express your skills, things you like, and things that you spend a lot of time on. This can help you see a way forward, and clarify your vision re. business ideas.
Start with things you wish existed but don't (I generally think of 5 or 6 every day, usually in irritationgrin), then think of things you would pay someone (or something) else to do for you, to save time or hassle.
You don't need to actually do those things, in fact that's usually poorly paid, you should find a way to employ others to do it, or train others, and reap the benefits of management. <channels Xenia>

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 08:58:35

I did my website on Moonfruit, it's very straightforward and has templates that you follow. There are template pages for online shops, photo galleries etc, v handy.

What do all you ladies do who are being so entrepreneurial? My business is struggling, there isn't much work in the part of the country I live in and it's not something I can do remotely.

DP thinking of opening a coffee shop, is that high risk, would you clever women say? A cheap rental site has come up the town centre, so location is good.

Coffee shops are ten-a-penny, what would the USP be? I display my framed personalised stories in a local art cafe, they take commission on sales. Could that arrangement work for you?
I am a storyteller, but also write my own short stories for children, so teamed up with an illustrator to make stories in frames, as I can do those in spare time (as per my username) while waiting for storytelling gigs to come up.

Xenia Sun 25-Nov-12 09:50:31

On the first thread the sorts of jobs where women were earing £1000 a day tended to be those who worked for themselves. There were people consulting at £1000 a day rate in quite a few areas so I suppose they would have specialist skills on one else had that others were prepared to pay for.

I think we had

IT programmers
IT consultants
lawyers, accountants

Also if you have teams of people who do the work and you manage it and are taking profit on what those other people do you can do quite well. I have been involved with people who own a chain of pharmacies, dental practices and lots of sales people (those who are good - many aren't), speakers, writers (rarely).

There is a list of women on £1m a year which is about what an equity party in a top accountancy practice like Enst & Young would get etc

£1k a day is only about £250k a year which is of course much better than most people but not up there with the over £1m a year women.


BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 09:51:05

Thoughts to make it a bit unusual for our town would be: quirky arty interior (although not so weird as to put people off), coffees at a bargain price, good takeaway sarnies as well as good eat in food. A very good playlist. Wondering about a 3, 4 and 5 quid menu as well.

Xenia Sun 25-Nov-12 11:49:47

I suspect making it the most expensive by far but much better might make more profits but I am certainly not an expert.
The lady who founded Costa was a lawyer first I think and a good example for women wanting to earn a lot en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahar_Hashemi

Hashemi attended City of London School for Girls, obtaining a corporation exhibition scholarship. She read Law at the University of Bristol. Upon graduation Hashemi trained and qualified as a solicitor with Frere Cholmeley in Lincoln's Inn Fields,[3] leaving in 1994 to co-found Coffee Republic."

That background of- private school (on a scholarship) good university doing a decent subject and then solicitor woudl have helped.

The Wetherspoons man:
"Timothy Randall Martin, the founder and chairman of Wetherspoon, was born on 28 April 1955, in Northern Ireland. He was educated at eleven different schools in Northern Ireland and New Zealand including Campbell College in Belfast.[6][16] He studied law at the University of Nottingham"

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 13:11:49

Thanks Xenia. Unfortunately DP doesn't have a degree therefore lots of jobs are not open to him, hence considering options for self-employment. He cooks well though!

Xenia Sun 25-Nov-12 17:14:51

I was only waffling on and looking at who had got where and where they came from which is always interesting. There was a programme about a man helping out a traveler who had got herself a first class degree and done a Bar course but could not get a job - How the other half lives - who was worth £8m a year (and helps her get a new job) on television. He said he left school without any exams, went into marketing. I think he owns a company called Academy. I know someone who left school at 15 and is very well off. It is certainly not impossible although I think it's worth encouraging our children to do well at school and pick better paid things as that's an easier route than doing well starting from nothing.

SingSung Fri 30-Nov-12 12:28:31

Well, I've just read through the 1000 quid a day threads... It's now dark outside (in Singapore) and it was light when I started!

Xenia - this must be your pro bono consulting work now! Terribly interesting and wow you have an interesting life.

In the process of first business being acquired. It has been hairy in the last few years so being acquired is a relief, as the market we are in has changed beyond recognition.

However, after reading this, I have a list of eight possible future avenues. As you say, I am a firm believer in a portfolio style career is the way forward in the current economy. Each business idea doesn't have to have a huge amount of longevity, once you've squeezed the sponge dry then it's ok to to move onto the next, or better still have it running concurrently.

I shall continue to watch this thread!

May I ask, are you all uk based? Xenia, have you diversified out of uk?

gussiegrips Wed 12-Dec-12 21:54:54

not posted for a wee while, been busy faffing about trying to, you know, work!

Pelvic floor parties seems to be a go-er!

Ran a big fundraiser (raised £500 for my pet charity, so am chuffed) and had 100 women there. did an hour's stand-up, and it went much better than I'd thought.

So, bookings are coming in steadily - and next step is to try and get some free publicity from the press/radio. Well, it's such a stupid idea that I should be able to snag some interest?

I need some reviews/articles because if I have a portfolio of publicity it'll help blag a good venue with the Free Fringe - am going to run this as a show in August at the Edinburgh Festival.

I've learned I'm Not Much Of A Salesman, but, I'll work on the pitch - not that I want to make cash out of re-selling, but it'd be good to be able to point women in the direction of gadgets which could help them.

anyhoo, thanks for this thread - it's Vair Inspiring

singsung I'm UK, I'm a storyteller (not many of us around) although my main income stream is currently personalised framed stories. My illustrator is getting snowed under with all my image requests, but on the plus side I'd budgeted for a year until profit and I'm making money 2 months in.
I'm enjoying social media marketing, and got a 2-hour radio spot yesterday, but all the time spent marketing is time away from doing actual work, and the house is messier now than it was when I worked out of home 4 days a week!
Can I have an extra weekday for Christmas but don't tell anyone else, so I can enjoy a day to myself ?

I'm just lurking because although I reckon I could set up my own business and earn lots, I'm not sure I can really be arsed (telling in itself). But I love hearing about other people doing it.

When I was self-employed I found a lot of the E-myth stuff by Michael Gerber useful and there are lots of resources on sites like www.coachville.com.

mam29 Sun 16-Dec-12 23:00:28

xenia-just wanted to say thankyou for directing me to these threads.

Both are very inspiring and refreshing.

since i gave up fulltime work to focus on family then ha 2more kis cant seem to get the crappest low paid job as cant be fully flexible.

have supported hubbys career with 2 job moves

but with rising living costs we struggle.

tried 1business idea few years ago which failed.

buying and selling kids stuff not made the money it used to.

I was thinking alot latly reflecting on 2012 and thinking we need a change and if dont do anything different everything will be same.

I owe it to my kids to do more ad try do something.

Thing that resonated with me is

rejections ok
its ok to fail.keep trying.

Also not putting all eggs in one basket.

I did degree in business and legal studies
but that dident give me any specific vocational skills by itself

I then fell into retail management.

Then had kids-the 2dident mix.

plans for 2013


some type direct selling
making craft items and selling them
cleaning and babysitting services.
selling on ebay

hopefully one of these pan out and can make £1000 a month.
£1000 day be lovley.

my husbands slightly skeptical but hoping can stay motivated and try manaage my time better.

Its scares me a bit but have to stop procrastinating.

DolomitesDonkey Mon 17-Dec-12 10:54:02

mam29 I think you're absolutely right - one thing's for sure, you're not going to make it sat on your GFA! A failure? Pff, just a learning curve, that's all.

SallRight Mon 17-Dec-12 13:43:51

Hi Everyone
You have been an inspiration to me as I read your previous thread. I am trying to start my own business atm. I just wondered do any of you ever feel 'hamstrung' by the legal side of things suce as liability should anything go wrong or do you simply find an insurance policy and carry on regardless/ ignore it/ something else?

I feel really green about this issue!

(My other issue is knowing I have something to offer but I've lost my 'confidence in me' somewhere along the way - planning on bluffing for this till I find my confidence again blush )

mam29 Mon 17-Dec-12 15:39:12

Thanks dolomites.

My failed business plan seemed good at time.

I borrowed £300 off hubby brought really good sewing machine
payg mobile

The plan being to make pretty cloth party bags.

I set up work email addy
brought a domain-never got round to using as dident know how to do own website.

set up an ebay shop

But i failed to make hardly any sales.

The thing is they were so low value
took me 30mins per bag
they were decent quality

had couple of orders from sahm jewellry sellers

tried advertising and selling on a mums forum

tried a few upmarket carboots
printed leaflets

nothing came of it I got fed up and defeated.

I dont think idea was bad by itself but was wrong to do just that.
with introduction of places like not on high st, pinterest and fb groups.

I think last year or so selling anything been hard as people have so little money just trying to sell kids old stuff put me off as selling for silly money depressing how much worth item has when you think how much paid for it.

but when i go shopping to big shopping centres im reminded there is still money out there not everyones struggling and maybe i as pitching my price and product far too low.

I lost confidence and gave up too soon.

since then been bit scared to try anything-hubby keeps saying find a job which has been really hard as feel unemployable its employers market out there and I cant be fully flexible;

If i could find a job that paid well enough to pay childcare i would go back full time.

Hubby also goes on about the sewing machine and rather annoyingly brings up the cards-in all fairness that wasent really a business venture was more a hobby on maternity leave as was so bored before i went back full time after 1st was born.
I stupidly said oh i could maybe sell some. Im not sure i as that good at it and see it frequently at car boots/fairs not sure much money its cards its saturated market.

considered direct selling few times but here its full of osbourne book sellers, pheonix card traders and odd avon thrown in none see quite rights so exploring other avenues.

Thing is im really not a party person I detest selling parties.

Last year I considered dog walking then realised other peoples dogs bit too much responsability,

I couldent be a childminder dont like other peoples kids that much.Plus its lot of work and dont know many wealthy childminders.plus my house too small and my 3drive me mad at times.

I have seen couple local businesses start up and fail.

would love my own bricks and mortar shop but costs too high.

So I need idea-dot have to be overly qualified for low start up costs, simple.

My sister does graphic design prints on ebay/etsy and does ok from it. I dont have that skill.

My cousins girlfreind lebt money off him an he helped set up gift shop website its made hardly any money depite good website, blog and fb page.Maybe 3sales a month.of course she has wealthy bloke and parents to support her every whim I have no safety net but if thinsg stay same qaulity of life will dimish and everything is rising and hubbys wages are not.

I cant bake to save my life.

so rule out cards, cakes, dummy clips and hair ribbons.

I kind of think jewellry may also be slightly saturated market

Might start trying homewares with throws/cushions but its such a gamble.

Going to stat cleaning thing know cleaners who have no insurance
looked up insurance its about 90quid a year.

The tax things scare and confuse me a little.

would i need to hire an accountant

if did several things would i just do one tax return for 2-3projects?

the whole paying years tax in arreas and huge 1st tax bill .

is their rough guide how much tax you save and pay in relation to income so eg how much tax would self employed person earning35 k a year pay?

I cant find a definative rate to charge as dont wish to charge too high.

my mums very negative always said dont have ideas above my station.she thinks cleainings hilarious as reminds me my house is hardly a palace but I have 2toddlers at home in house thats too small just one open plan reception.

Thinking about it in detail none of my freinds are that proactive , no ambition all floating and whinging woe is me.

my short term ambitions-not worry about food bill
go out more
but things need like new boots/coat
not stress birthdays. xmas , september of rising costs.

med term
pas driving test
pay down some debts
go on holiday-

long term buy a house or leasts rent a bigger/nicer one.

Salright my confidence pretty much at all time low this year felt hopeless and want to feel like ho i did prekids.
I used to manage a 3million pound a year shop and managed a team now if feel so lost no one to delegate too, no family on hand to help, hubby working all hours and reminding me hes the breadwinner.

So is sit there mealplanning trying to save afew quid, maybe we can shop around again it rarly makes adifference I need an income.

DolomitesDonkey Mon 17-Dec-12 16:04:43

I will reply properly later, it's feeding time at the zoo here and I still have 2 reports to go out. I just wanted you to know that someone read it and "gets" it!

DolomitesDonkey Mon 17-Dec-12 18:55:08

You are so right about the people still walking around the shops with bags full of stuff - there are people struggling of course, but at the same time there is a LOT Of money out there... imo people frequently find the money for stuff they want!

I come from a corporate background, I was raised to "work for someone else", my entire family don't get it - we were raised to "do something in the city" - I just didn't know that working for myself was something I could do. I thought people who worked for themselves were Delboys haha!

You said you have a degree and you ran a 3 million a year turnover shop - so it's a confidence issue rather than a "can do" issue. Give yourself a pep talk gal and do your daily affirmations! smile

Santaandme Mon 17-Dec-12 21:40:02

This thread is so inspirational and has got me thinking..

Tamoo Thu 20-Dec-12 11:07:10

*mam29 your posts are really honest and interesting as I'm in a similar situation to you except without the husband smile

Some thoughts:

I think you did all the right things in setting up a small craft business however you would need to offer a wider range of items for sale than just cloth party bags. However good they are you are never going to get high sales from just that item. Since you've done the work already is there anything else you could make/craft and sell?

Also bear in mind the time taken to make craft items, cost of materials etc, and make a rigorous comparison to what you'll actually be able to sell them for. I know a fantastic knitter for example, I asked her why she doesn't sell her stuff (she just teaches) and she said it simply wasn't worth it for what what people would be willing to pay for the finished items.

Also if you have management experience maybe consider going back to that on a self-employed basis? I have no reliable/regular income and am seriously, seriously struggling financially, I have no childcare and a crap CV with no professional referees so despite applying for loads of jobs never get through the first sift. In desperation I put a very honest ad online explaining all the above but stating my useful qualities and experience (degree, fast typing speed, bit of editorial experience, and cleaning!) and have had three really quite decent enquiries offering interviews and potentially some freelance work. I'm hoping one of them will come to something and give me something to pay the bills while I pursue my own business start up.

fraktion Fri 28-Dec-12 14:54:54

I think people fall down trying to do it all themselves. I've outsourced and skill swapped the things I can't do to get started. I do digital communication/writing for websites/social media etc (words!) and I don't do art, I don't do finance-y stuff and I was so lost on insurance it wasn't funny but I got a logo designed in return for some social media coaching and found myself a pet accountant.Now I just need a nicer website.

Moral of the story: there are people you can pay to give you expertise/do it for you and if you have something that could be interesting for them you may be able to swap.

LargeLatte Fri 28-Dec-12 18:06:24

mam29 I just wanted to say stop beating yourself up! And write a list of what you can do (as opposed to that huge list of what you can't). It took me almost 3 years before I came up with a viable plan for being self employed and a good couple of failures too.

Also don't talk it over with people who will rain on your parade. My dmum was very set in her thinking that real work was 9-5 in a shop or office, anything else was pie in the sky. So I told her absolutely nothing of my plans. I confided in my husband and a good friend (but if dh had been unsupportive I wouldn't have talked to him either). I only told her and pretty much all other family what I was up to once I was successfully making money. And now they are supportive.

mam29 Sat 29-Dec-12 10:53:08

Thanks for input guys..

everyones been really nice, supportive and given good advice
I think in reflection I have beat myself up a bit.

failure to get job for low level retail assistant on jobs i had experience and qualified for was disheartning I know its about so many people chasing one job and lack of flexibility.

Plus the jobs wouldent even cover my childcare and working on till in tesco will not radically change out finances.

I never set out to be sahm I love my kids but being at homes harder and feel less self worth than if had paid work.

Think being a mum some do loose self confidence and who they were before.

most days feel like ground hog day with kids they make mess i tidy,endless cooking and shopping. Today the hamster really needs a clean and will bath ak
During last few years i only really tried one business which dident take off and hubbys forever whinging about sewing machine.
In reality time and effort spent-wasent enough return.

I have seen quite a few mums try crafty stuff ie hairclips, avon, phenix cards and give up.

I know new year I need to manage my time better.

I have some accounts to do for preschool as im treasuer I hate accounts.

I have been doing some research over last week and think decided on 4seperate business ideas to run in tandem as 3are linked.

I need to spend jan

organising myself.
might look ebay for 2nd hand desk for my bedroom.
need to have mega listing to raise capital as need about £150 to start direct selling for 2seperate companies.

need to find cheapest best place for leaflets/postcards
decide on best place to do ebsite im not technie for business a
need to open seperate bank account.
will buy cheap new payg phone just for business
need a new printer-will look ebay

plan is jan/feb set up business

a and business b both direct selling-both come with my own website.
research business c-which involves networking and focussing on right area before buying stock and launching initally etsy shop followed vy website,

business d is service provided locally which needs

insurance£90 pa
few other bits
supplies linked to business a so can buy in products used cheaper.

Need to start booking fairs in advance going to book summer fair as know organiser and hope to market 3/4businesses at that fair,

Initailly will work on hubbys day off but once build up client list can enroll youngest in nursery. middle child gets funding jan so saving there.Eldest at school but not great holiday or afterschool provsion so maybe need to investigqate childminders or holiday clubs.

pass driving test within next 6months before im 32.

My mams always negative.

hubbys cousins an accountant wonder if she want free babysitting in return.

just need to keep momentum going and stay focussed.

in addition to all this ill

try save money where i can
keep selling on stuff we dont need as that gives me pin money each month.

The aim is better quality of life for the family as will have substantial 2nd income on top of hubbys wage pay down some debts and have nice holiday this year also would love a tassimo.

mam29 Sat 29-Dec-12 10:59:37

Forgot to say well done tamoo sound slike fab idea.

Also large latte -well done on starting up business.

Its easy to fall into i cant as working with kids can be so much tricker

I often envy those who stay in old jobs pre baby as either employer was very child freindly 1 woman i know has on site nursery at her offices.
Teacher freinds who ent back part time.

its just happends food retail managemnt wasent much fun, very heavy on time and not good for family life.

Thew news on economy is alays so doom and gloom

everyones skint
no banks are lending
rising costs.
high unemployment and threats of redundancy,

Being in the market these days much as harder as so competative its employers market as so many unemployed including many well qualified graduates.

global-people come to uk for work

so many people chasing single job.

feels much harder than it used to be .

DolomitesDonkey Mon 31-Dec-12 11:10:20

OK, so the original thread started in September or so - how are everyone's plans going to collect their piles of fifties?

Mine is coming along great guns after ditching my partner and I feel very confident for the future.

mam29 It's been said that during a recession is actually a great time to start a business because it forces you to be inventive and careful with your start-up costs. If you can make a business a success in a recession imagine what you'll do during the next economic boom cycle! (Exceptions to this rule might be bailiffs, money lenders, pawn-brokers etc. wink)

DolomitesDonkey Mon 31-Dec-12 11:14:08

A challenge I've had/am having is simply to "be myself".

I tried to fit in to a mould of what I thought people wanted to see - but when push comes to shove I am who I am and it's working better for me and I get a more positive response when I simply am "me".

mam29 Mon 31-Dec-12 11:51:02

Loving your positive attitude dolimites -I actually think other peoples preconceptions are hardest thing to sort.

people say new business-recesssion are you mad?

but im not leaving a job so no income to lose

just need to raise initial capital as state of my overdraft not feeling love from the bank right now.

Good luck to everyone who started self employment 2012 or trying to set up business 2013.

No ambition to be loan shark/pawn shop or bailiff.
couldent make money out of other peoples misery.

My problem is patiance i need to wait to luaunch do my reserch get my marketing and website right so jan /feb could just bed about doing groundwork and trying to book a few fairs for summer and next xmas in advance.

on my list is

decent website
fb page/twitter
have no idea how to use twitter
business cards/leaflets, posters.

will be sure to keep you updated

DolomitesDonkey Mon 31-Dec-12 12:13:08

Don't procrastinate, make your plan and get on with it.

Nothing will ever be "perfect", you've just got to get out there and start building.

Believe me it's much easier to get the fuck on with it if you are "live" and you can write a list of 20 things you need to do because people actually ARE looking at your website rather than waiting to launch "oooh mid-May maybe, if I'm not too busy, and if it all looks perfect".

People may buy from you if your website has a spelling error, wonky logo or some "ipsum" text lurking. Nobody is going to buy from the website in your head!

Avago Tue 01-Jan-13 21:06:41

Hi DolomitesDonkey (or anybody) , did you go to the Great British Business Show? I so wanted to go but happily sales were going well and I didn't want to take time off (I sell Christmas cards so have to make the best of my small window). I notice there's another in June so will try then.

DolomitesDonkey Wed 02-Jan-13 07:28:09

hello, I didn't go in the end because I was in a massive state of flux with my business and it was really poor timing. June however sounds very interesting, I thought I'd have to wait again until next Dec!

mam29 Wed 02-Jan-13 09:42:11

Im hopefully going in june and meeting a freind who has her own small ironing business, Thourght got nothing to lose could be helpful.
So if you see someone looking very lost could be me as london confuses me.

Avago-what you think maybe helpful? marketing yourself for next xmas?

Also maybe diversify into other occasions could be option for you

Avago Wed 02-Jan-13 15:57:47

Hi Mam, yes definitely want to diversify a into different things. I really want to do a children's picture book to appeal to the camper van niche (and others hopefully since it will be so fabulous wink )and the Christmas cards were a way to get my name out there and traffic to my website. It was a small project in 2011 that quickly grew arms and legs when I took the plunge to go to a printers and orders more than doubled in 2012 so I be ploughing all the profits into ..... well that's the question. I went for Christmas for the sheer volume of sales in general at that time and print runs are 1000 + to get a decent price - getting rid 1000 when you are selling one at a time would be prohibitive but packs of 10 cards at a time are ok.

I've learned though that paypal and amazon fees are relatively high for lowish priced good like mine - there's only a few pennies difference in the amount they charge for one pack (£5) and 3 so I need to be smarter in the way I sell and look for more expensive items to produce too.

I signed up to Twitter in 2011 to try and get the word out there and I made a few sales that way but I got a bit fed up with it and apart from pressing the Tweet button that appeared when I listed items on Amazon and Twitter I don't think I've touched it recently. Amazon was a brilliant selling tool apart from a noticable dip when the tax story was big news.

I'm in Scotland so the thought of finding my way round London terrifies me though if I go I'll be staying with a cousin (in law if that exists) who'll hopefully point me in the right direction.

itsthesimplethings Mon 07-Jan-13 19:32:17

I'm self employed, working from home as an audio typist but my wrists, hands and fingers are becoming quite arthritic plus the fact that I earn a few hundred a month at most.

I'm feeling very frustrated as I know I'm not stupid but I wasn't encouraged to take A levels but instead went to college and learnt to type and took languages. I am fluent in German due to living there for a while but not confident enough to do translations plus generally qualifications are required. Same applies to interpreting.

I cannot afford to do a degree now, unfortunately due to my husband being made redundant several times we have a bad credit rating so I am unable to borrow start up costs.

I would just like to find a fulfilling way of earning a reasonable amount of money that doesn't involve selling make up, cooking products, books etc!

I'm good at proofreading but believe it is impossible to land proofreading jobs without qualifications.

I'm absolutely stuck for ideas. Although language is my "thing" I don't seem to have a book in me. I can't accept that I am useless and unable to earn money.

If I go back into an office I would earn so little, I couldn't afford childcare which I need for a few years yet. Have no family nearby and live in a village.

Grateful for any tips and enjoying reading the thread.

AlwaysOneMissing Tue 08-Jan-13 16:04:20

simplethings what are your hobbies? What small things in life give you satisfaction? If you mention some here, even if they seem like they could never earn you any money, maybe some of us could make some suggestions?
Can you write well? Is there anything you particularly enjoy doing with the children?

itsthesimplethings Tue 08-Jan-13 16:55:36

Alwaysonemissing, my hobbies are reading (fiction mainly), knitting (but my aching hands are slowing me down there too), listening to rock. I used to do yoga and considered taking on a yoga class for children but need to have been attending a group for the past three years I think and I've only been doing some at home and not much of that for the past couple of years due to a painful hip.

My passion is mainly reading, I'm a stickler for spelling, punctuation and grammar.

My dream would be to open a book shop or run a cafe, but I just don't have the money to finance it nor will I have in the near future. I looked into it a few years ago before my husband was made redundant and we ended up in a financial mess but was told that there is no money in bookshops in small towns anymore due to the internet sad

I considered making some natural cosmetics for sensitive skin but I have no or little sense of smell so would struggle to know what they smell like which I always think is important.

itsthesimplethings Tue 08-Jan-13 16:58:55

Sorry, pressed send too soon.

I can't write well sad I mean, my grammar, spelling, punctuation are spot on but I have no imagination, it seems. I thought one day I'd like to write a book about my experiences but when I tried I just didn't know how to start, how to put it into words. It was sadly always like that at school when called upon to write an essay ....

I'm hopeless with children (apart from my own obviously), not full of exciting ideas at all.

AlwaysOneMissing Tue 08-Jan-13 22:29:27

I'm afraid I don't have much knowledge of the writing industry, but maybe someone else here does and can point you in the direction of something you perhaps haven't thought of?

Ill admit, you have sounds reasons for why you can't do a lot of the things you mentioned and I'm struggling to know what to suggest!

I will have a think and see if I can come up with anything. Maybe for now, google is your friend. Look into small businesses, what sort of children's groups and facilities there are in your area, is there anything missing? How about an eBay venture, or an online sales venture?

Think totally out of the box... Good luck and I will try to think for you too.

itsthesimplethings Tue 08-Jan-13 23:18:44

Thank you so much for reading my post and commenting.

I have thought about a service helping new mums but as I have no medical background I'm nor sure if I'd be able to offer everything they need.

I'm also not brimming with confidence, I've suffered with depression recently and, whilst I'm now much better, I still struggle with my confidence.

DolomitesDonkey Wed 09-Jan-13 06:56:13

I had maternity nurses who did a lot of things which didn't require specific medical training - first aid and common sense really!

They kept my house clean, looked after my toddler, did the washing, brought me coffees & sarnies, put the washing on, cleaned the loo, etc., etc. Just did all the things which need doing so I could sit down or sleep.

Simplethings, could you write a non-fiction book? It would involve researching a field, and some independent insights, but if your book is used as a set text at even one university you'd easily make money year on year.
I'm writing a collection of short stories to self publish as an e-book, it's no initial outlay to publish, and they have a large market exposure.

itsthesimplethings Wed 09-Jan-13 09:21:05

DolomitesDonkey, that's exactly the service I intended offering. However, I think if I lived in London it would be a possibility but maybe not in the sleepy village area I live in. I just remember how I felt when my baby was a newborn and someone to help with the little things, generally keep the house clean and shop for me, let me have an hour's kip every now and then would have been invaluable.

InMySpareTime, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately I don't have a clue what I could write a non-fiction book about. I have a little bit of knowledge about a few things but not enough to write a book, I suspect.

hereincornwall Wed 09-Jan-13 10:26:13

itsthesimplethings - similar boat here. Not entirely sure which direction I could head in, yet I feel motivated and 'ready' to start working freelance/self-employed. My kids are just about old enough, I'm feeling full of energy to plough into a venture of my own and make some (any) money. But I just don't know what! Organisation, sorting, planning, excel, projects, admin etc are my key skills (and what I enjoy, believe it or not!). Also baking, cooking and drinking tea. Any ideas?!

Could you start with writing a blog about new mums and what you need in those first few foggy days? Writing lists on how to be organised, how to prioritise, what one needs etc. This could end up being something so good that it could be published into a 'new mums guide'. Just an idea! I'll keep thinking.

I spend my evenings trawling google, reading inspiring business stories, looking into ideas. I just haven't quite had a lightbulb moment yet!

AlwaysOneMissing Wed 09-Jan-13 10:36:17

Great idea there Dolmites.
I know you question whether that would work simplethings with you living in a village, but if you drive, you can actually cover quite a large area. And you live in a village but said that you would have benefitted from someone like that. Also, as that has very little outlay, it is probably worth a shot even if it doesn't earn you your fortune!

You could have a ruthless look around your house for things to eBay, and get a little pot of money together from there, even £100-200 would be plenty to get a business like that going.
Think about where you could target pregnant ladies/parents/families (flyers left on a maternity shop counter, give out flyers after antenatal swimming/yoga class etc) and really go for it. You would need insurance (but they tend to work out cheaper than you'd expect.) For very little outlay you could at least give it a go.
If nothing comes of it, you have only lost the money you made from selling things lying around your house anyway.

FWIW I would 100% use a service like that.

I really believe that as soon as you start being proactive and getting yourself out there, doors will open and opportunities will arise.
(Oh, and listen to Dolmites, she has given me some great advice in the past and knows her stuff).

How are you feeling about any of these suggestions op?

AlwaysOneMissing Wed 09-Jan-13 10:43:37

Sorry, cross posted hereincornwall

I recently came across a concierge company (quite by accident, they were one of the testimonials of a web design company I was considering using). I had never considered concierge services before, but when I commented on it to the web design company, they told me that this particular company was growing so quickly and was so inundated with work that they needed to step up a gear and that's why they had a newer website built. When I looked on their website, their prices were reasonable and they offered such helpful services, I almost convinced myself that I needed a concierge!! (I most definitely don't grin)

But my point is that for a small business, or just a busy person, these sort of services would be extremely attractive. It would put your organisational and practical skills to good use. Do you think that's something you could consider?

AlwaysOneMissing Wed 09-Jan-13 10:47:45

By concierge services I mean, organising events, booking entertainment/restaurant tables/venue tickets etc, organising household things, managing emergency situations eg boiler breaking and calling out engineers, collecting/posting parcels and anything else, researching quotes/services etc.

Basically anything your client might want you to do, maybe like a freelance PA service.

DolomitesDonkey Wed 09-Jan-13 10:50:38

Mummy blogs are overdone. Every other woman with a newborn in West London thinks she can write a book based upon the trials and tribulations of her PFB! wink

herincornwall Try setting up a survey with surveymonkey.com - make it anonymous and publish on facebook asking your friends what your qualities are and where they think your strengths lie. You will be pleasantly surprised and inspired. smile

simplethings I'd have thought that service would be very much wanted in a rural area! Much easier to get deliveries in London than 20 miles north of Inverness! wink

I want concierge facilities too. <peers inside dusty purse>

DolomitesDonkey Wed 09-Jan-13 10:51:06

alwaysone Thank you for the compliment! grin

hereincornwall Wed 09-Jan-13 11:28:07

dolomites - you're right. Mummy blogs are done. Need to think of a new angle then. I think the Maternity Nurse/Mother's help angle in a small village is a great idea. Certainly something you could research....

For myself, concierge services is something that I have already considered, especially because I live in a touristy area and thought it would be a good thing to offer to holiday home owners or second home owners....

Surveymonkey is a great idea, thanks.

*goes off to google some more *


hereincornwall Wed 09-Jan-13 11:33:53

back again.... I had thought along the lines of a professional organiser too - perhaps that could tie in nicely with a concierge service. Ok, lots to google now.

itsthesimplethings - how about a 'new mother concierge'? You could offer assistance on what to purchase, when, organising paperwork, organising for meals/food to be delivered etc.

itsthesimplethings Wed 09-Jan-13 11:35:00

Thanks ladies, very helpful comments. Will go and ponder ...

itsthesimplethings Wed 09-Jan-13 12:58:09

AlwaysOneMissing, I have LOTS to seel in the house, need to make the effort to take photos and get it all listed.

itsthesimplethings Wed 09-Jan-13 12:59:10

Sorry, that should of course read sell !! blush

itsthesimplethings Wed 09-Jan-13 13:08:36

HereInCornwall, the concierge idea is a great idea. Almost like a PA but for anyone. I think lots of small business, self-employed people etc could use a service like that.

AlwaysOneMissing Wed 09-Jan-13 13:49:10

Ooh, glad this thread is helping to get ideas flowing.

simplethings get listing on eBay!! Definitely worth while and now you have the perfect motivation!
I think that if you started to market yourself to new parents, you will become aware of what people need and can carve out a role for yourself.

hereincornwall what do you mean by professional organiser? What kinds of services will you offer, and who would your target market be? Taking advantage of the holiday/tourist trade near you sounds like a good idea.

AlwaysOneMissing Wed 09-Jan-13 13:49:48

You are welcome Dolmites grin thanks

mam29 Fri 25-Jan-13 11:35:02

Hi guys just thourght I update.

Jan been frustrating month for sure as thourght kids go back can get stuck in.

Dident count on flipping snow and child illness.

The bills and house plus xmas have been drain and had no money to invest.

positive things have done as trying my best not to get down and give up all woe is me yes its hard but will be worth it.

I have booked free tickets for bristish business show in june-scary as london terrefies me but think could be useful.

I have booked to fairs

1jumble sale selling all my tat to raise more capital.
other is school fair in june so need to get products in for that,
Hopefully can buy some product next week as having huge selling weekend fb/ebay and possibly chance to get fair as easy as 1st march and need to require cost of festival stall in july as hoping to have 3 seperate but linked businesses up and running by then.

process of starting a blog-that would be intresting content but also link to green issues and sustaiability.

Also investigating how blog can earn me money.

will be little while before start setting up social media yet.
trying to focus on starting small, gradually adding and local.

I hate selling parties so hope to sell mainly through fairs and website.Thinking should be aiming for 1fair/event per month.

Still not got any further with website for service business.
plan is to start small o that get decent leaflets and business cards done and canves all affluent areas near me and hope to get 1 days work and put youngest in nursery.

My final idea is not linked to other 3 and need significant capital and networking so idea is start the other 3 fisrt which will enable me to expand to 4 businesses by july thats the aim.

as need etsy shop to begin with-depending how sucessful that is then set up website but need to do more research, buying will take time and money and really need to network with specific groups to market this idea.

cant belive its 25th jan just flown by.

Updating here,
I have a party booking, I know it's not £1000, but it's not a day either. £250 for 2 hours though, if I did 4 it would scale up to £1k/day.
Massive ego boost this week, DD had homework to write about a person who's her role model. She chose me "because you made your own business from nothing, you're amazinggrin" I was very touched by that!

icepole Thu 31-Jan-13 10:12:04

Hello, I would like to join! I have an idea for an on line business and have for as far as setting up the website, struggling with tech issues though as am totally inept in this area.

My other issue is that I am not business minded at all and am
not sure how to set out what I am doing. I feel I need advice on this, any ideas where I could go for this?

AlwaysOneMissing Thu 31-Jan-13 11:14:14

InMySpareTime that is brilliant! Well done, I think you are technically earning £1000 per day grin. You must feel so proud of yourself. (And of your DD too, that is adorable and must make you feel even more proud of your achievements!) May I ask what your business is? (Sorry, I must have missed it up thread).

icepole I scoured the Internet for advice on general business practice and how to set up in business. I got invaluable help from Business Link but I'm not sure to what extent they still exist. You can still get information and advice from www.gov.uk I believe. Good luck.

AlwaysOneMissing Thu 31-Jan-13 11:17:44

Ahh, I just looked back through the thread and was reminded that you are a storyteller InMySpareTime, is that what your party booking is? How are you finding you are getting business- through word of mouth? Congrats again, must be a good feeling.

Salbertina Thu 31-Jan-13 12:56:29

Ok despite masters and previous senior management role, i cannot for the life of me currently think of decent paid wfh for me.
Only ideas so far- hosting/teaching overseas students, ebaying, exam marking, casual clerking for local council
Any inspiration please? I have a general management background (mainly public sector) plus business masters and 14 yrs training experience.

Salbertina, how about advising small businesses how to access funding/complete paperwork/negotiate contracts etc?
Always, it is a storytelling party, they found my website via a google search.

Salbertina Thu 31-Jan-13 16:51:02

Thank you, is there much market for that?

If you can do it well, and get your marketing sorted, you should be able to find your market for this. Often small businesses lack the knowledge or time to access the funding they could be entitled to, and I'd have thought they would be happy to pay you some of the money they never thought they could getsmile.

Salbertina Fri 01-Feb-13 12:54:11

Thanks, feeling a little dim and lacking in confidence but yes, why not? Hopefully i have some skills/experience to impart!
How about you, whats yr plan?

Parties for the easy money, but not reliable income.
Framed personalised stories for craft fairs, good income for summer months but time consuming getting stock levels up.
E-book for steady long term income generation.
I have lots of strings to my bow and like to have fallbacks if one sector fails.

Salbertina Fri 01-Feb-13 13:55:46

Portfolio career, hey? V wise ..plus makes life more interesting. E-book intriguing!

13,000 words so far, plan to publish with smashwords at around 30,000 words but feedback so far is overwhelmingly positive, people want answers to the questions posed in my blog "teaser" stories.
Summer is boom time for storytelling, lots of storytelling festivals. Winter is boom time for reading as people curl up with a good book. Win-win for megrin.

greatwork Fri 01-Feb-13 16:53:28

Just catching up with some of the recent posts on here and was thinking that those with ebay skills experience AND domestic / organising skills could offer a service where you combine the two. i.e. you go to someone's house help to identify / clear out unused or unwanted items which you photograph and sell, and then you 'pay' the householder an agreed percentage of the amount in vouchers which they can then use to purchase your baby sitting, tidying, ironing, cooking help. So you get a small fee for your ebay skills, and then you also have a client (who can pay) for your other services. The client gets rid of unwanted / unused items (maybe a bit of decluttering), and then also gets vouchers that they can use for your 'concierge' services. So you've helped them to afford / pay for the very thing that you want to sell. I think that might just be win-win-win-win-win grin

In fact why don't you start at my house smile

greatwork Fri 01-Feb-13 16:57:43

inmysparetime great news! I have a similar (but very different) portfolio:

- wintertime workshops and writing
- spring, summer, autumn holding ceremonies

I'm part way through writing a book to accompany my work and struggling a bit with the best way to do it (ebook or physical book). Wondering if anyone has any advice in this area?

Ebooks are IMO the best bet for a first book as they remain "on display" for longer. Smashwords do a free book marketing guide that explains the difference between print book marketing and ebook marketing more eloquently than I can.

Hoopsadazy Fri 22-Feb-13 08:38:37

Well, I have been lurking, here, on the other thread and the entrepreneur one too...

I think I am clear now what I want to do, but it might take a while to get everything sorted.

All the threads have been super inspirational and made me feel more confident about getting on with it. It has also saddened me a bit that there are so many educated, clever women out there looking after kids with no self-esteem. It's not an area for me, but anyone who wants to charge us all a reasonable sum (cos we're not yet working) to tell us that we can do it, we are great, etc.

Anyway, I was finally pushed to stop lurking and interrupt:
InMySpareTime: Have you thought about framed poems? I haven't looked if you put your site on any of the threads. However, I have thought a few times about getting DS's favourite poem up on his wall. I know Etsy do snippets of 'family' songs.

HereInCornwall: Having holidayed in Cornwall last summer, perhaps you could go into sunshine production? Umbrella sales? grin Sorry.....anyway, I think there is a company that hires out kids stuff for holiday-makers. So, if you have the car packed up then they will hire a travel cot, pushchair, highchairs, etc. Also then can target people visiting from overseas who might fly over?
On the same theme: Holiday home arrival packs? So, there are people who own the holiday homes for rent - you could get them to offer welcome packs - that you make up and provide (washing up liq, food, drink, soap) but also for people with second homes who whizz down on a Friday night - you arrange to provide them (not sure how - can they pick up from you?) with some groceries, booze, maybe hire kids toys/books, arrange a car wash while there, sort out tickets, restaurant reservations, etc. as you have the local knowledge.
Would think easy to market using lots of words about holidaying cornwall and tons of websites exist that you can advertise on?

hereincornwall Fri 22-Feb-13 09:26:49

hoopsadazy thanks for those ideas. I'm still mulling over the Cornwall/concierge/holiday idea. In the meantime, I have come up with another idea which seems to be getting good feedback. I'm getting a little bit (over)excited about it and currently working on a website etc to just get myself out there and get started. I'm also looking at an admin/organisation sideline. This thread is awesome - you're an awesome (this is currently my 4yos favourite word!) motivational bunch. I'm doing a little (free) course in the evenings which is really helping me get my head together.

I'm still aiming for 1000 quid a month initially, but the 1000 a day objective is certainly in my longer-term business plan.

The most positive things I have taken from these threads recently (and by the way, I never look at any other sub-forums - only the freelances/SE one!):

- Just get out there and give it a go, don't wait and wait until it's all perfect. You can't get clients unless you get out and advertise - doesn't matter if your site/name/content/business cards etc aren't perfect yet!

- You CAN do it. Have the confidence to go out there and sell what you're good at. Nobody can do everything/be everything all the time, so offer what you're good at to people who aren't good at it!

- Following on from the above, I am using that as a 'practise what you preach' motto. I am obviously going into an 'outsource your small jobs' type area so I have to be able to sell to people the fact that I'm BRILLIANT at xyz and they are not brilliant at it, so should pay me to do it.

Happy motivational Friday ladies!

sanam2010 Mon 25-Feb-13 18:04:53

Thought you might like this story about a millionaire mumpreneur on huffington post:
Mompreneur Nina Restieri Organizes Her Overwhelming Schedule Into A Million-Dollar Business http://t.co/euvqWBlidh

ModeratelyObvious Thu 19-Sep-13 19:58:25

Thought I'd bring this back to life...

escape Fri 20-Sep-13 21:48:40

ModeratelyO - are you working for yourself or thinking about it?

ModeratelyObvious Fri 20-Sep-13 23:19:28

Yes, just started working for myself.

escape Sat 21-Sep-13 22:58:42

What is it you do? How's it going?

DolomitesDonkey Thu 03-Oct-13 08:35:18

Just a quick bump. We at the 1000 quid club are looking for new members for our free "mastermind club". It works best for those in start-up mode or who have fewer than 12 months experience going it alone. We provide each other with support, encouragement and a sounding board whilst you bring it all together.

If you're interested in joining, please PM me - we'll need to connect on FB and then I can pop you in the group.

(PS yes, 1000/day is in sight!)

LargeLatte Thu 03-Oct-13 12:01:34

Hi Dolomites - I think I may have been in the group at some point, but it was early on and most of the activity was still on the MN thread, so I didn't participate much. Is it OK to join now.

I'm on a different path now and work as a freelance web copywriter. I love it but need to make a plan for increasing my rates - I'm aiming to be top quality at top rates. £1,000 in a day may be ambitious but you never know.

DolomitesDonkey Thu 03-Oct-13 12:04:40

Yes, please pop me a PM because I'm afraid I can't remember who you are. blush

fancyanother Thu 03-Oct-13 20:48:14

Hi I'm so glad this has been bumped because I was just looking for ideas for boosting my own little business. For background, I am a teacher. I was made redundant in 2009 when I was pregnant and when my DS was born, decided to use my combined maternity pay and redundancy to live on while I set up my own tutoring business. In the first year, I did really well (by my standards!) Nowhere near £1000 a day, but enough for me to feel great! I had 3 regular students, who made me over £120 per week, then I had students short term on a regular basis to help with coursework etc. I was really pleased, loved being self employed more than I thought I would, even loved doing my tax return!
Then after I had been doing this for a while, I got offered a job. I had fallen out of love with teaching, but obviously absence made the heart grow fonder, and the lure of a regular income was too much so I took it saying I would only do a few hours to keep us ticking over while growing the business. Well, it hasn't worked out that way, and I'm swallowed back up into the mire, Ofsted, endless meetings, endless paperwork. I love teaching, but am crap at the paperwork/ record keeping side of it and I'm getting ever more resentful of letting my business slide. Anyway, I'm taking too long to get to the point. I want to start up my business again with renewed vigour. I need some ideas to get more business. I have seen a job as a freelance trainer I was thinking of applying for. I need to have some other ideas. My subjects are Law and Business, which is good because I get a lot of adult work degree work as well as work based learning.

GinotPrigio Tue 08-Oct-13 20:08:27

I've spent today reading through this and the original "£1000 a month" thread and it's really motivated me to get by bum in gear. I am a qualified solicitor and worked in commercial litigation in London but quit last year to move to the country. I've had a fantastic year off with my daughter but am itching to get back into some kind of paid work (not to mention that our savings have now run dry and the bill are starting to pile up).

I am loathe to go back into private practice with unattainable billing targets, long office hours and a vicious fight for a partnership which I don't even want. In-house work is an option but to make things more complicated I am pregnant with no. 2! Ideally I need to find freelance or consultancy work of some sort, where I can choose my hours to start with and increase later next year. But I have no idea where to start looking and my confidence has taken a massive blow in the last few years between maternity leave and now this year off.

Any other solicitors out there who have diversified into other areas?

Suzietwo Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:53

Hi ginot

There are heaps of firms who offer consultancies. Try keystone, spring law, setfords, cavendish legal etc

You can also try pimping yourself out to other firms you know. Works extremely well!

Moderatelyobvious Tue 08-Oct-13 21:40:06

Ginot there's an ad on the Jobs Board for that type of law firm also.

GinotPrigio Wed 09-Oct-13 12:47:55

Thanks for those suggestions. I know some friends who have applied to those consultancy firms have received no work at all through them. Am thinking they must be inundated with applicants looking for more flexible work.

Ideally I would like to work on my own and be responsible for getting my own business. I've had a thought about offering legal services to local businesses. As well as litigation, I did a lot of commercial / advisory work for sole traders and small business - so info on start ups, contract drafting, reviewing T&C's, employment issues, debt collection, etc.

Working on my own and at home I think my rates would be extremely competitive compared to local law firms. I would need to think hard and do a lot of research about the kind of service I could offer as I couldn't hold myself out as practising as a solicitor without professional indemnity insurance (which is way too costly for me to even consider).

Is this a service that you some of you sole traders and small business owners might consider using?

Suzietwo Wed 09-Oct-13 13:00:06

i can only speak for the one i work at and theyhave recently cut back on hires to consolidate the lawyers they have.

i know some solicitors who do the sort of thing youre talking about but without PII (not half as expensive as people assume) you're looking at charging half what you can with it.

have you friends in small firms you could hook up with to get a share of their PII in exchange for a % of profits?

Suzietwo Wed 09-Oct-13 13:00:21

sorry, ex solicitors

GinotPrigio Wed 09-Oct-13 14:07:24

Hi Suzie, yes getting in on a share of the PII from my former firm might be an option. I think I will do more research first on the non-practising advisor route as see what my options are.

Are you a solicitor / ex-solicitor too?

Suzietwo Wed 09-Oct-13 14:12:25

yes im a solicitor. i work as a consultant from home. works extremely well.

GinotPrigio Wed 09-Oct-13 14:58:24

That's fantastic. Do you get all our wrk trough consultancy firms or do you source your own clients too? What area if you don't mind answering?

Suzietwo Wed 09-Oct-13 15:20:53

a bit of both. i wouldnt have done it unless i thought id be able to survive without having anything referred to me by the firm.


GinotPrigio Thu 10-Oct-13 08:48:40

Sorry Suzie, tried several times to reply yesterday but it looks like that beaker thread crashed Mumsnet! Sounds like you have got a good arrangement going. Does it fit in nicely with kids, etc?

I've been doing a lot of research trying to see if this will be viable for me. I think the upshot of not having PII is that I can charge less as you say. I envisage targeting small local businesses at first for commercial work - T&C's, s/holder agreements, debt collection advice, etc. Competitive pricing is going to be important here. Then for regulated work like litigation I could negotiate a fee sharing agreement with my old firm and come in under their PII, but obviously charging the client a higher fee.

I still need to consider whether I need some kind of indemnity cover just for the commercial work though. Hmmm, so much to think about. And the Ethics Helpline have been as useless as ever!!

Suzietwo Thu 10-Oct-13 09:28:05

I've spoken to a lot of people wondering which way to go. My view is that without PII you have lost your identity and to some extent credibility and you start competing with people with far fewer qualifications than you. which means you start competing on price which is always a bad idea.

you will also find it very hard to recover from not working as a solicitor i.e. get back into any solicitor type role.

so if you can find a way of consulting, it does the job extremely well.

the types of firms which provide consultancy services vary in exactly the same way as other firms do. some only accept ex city lawyers and some expect you to have a following. if you dont think you're going to qualify for either of those things then you need to speak to someone like cavendish legal or setfords who are more relaxed about the people who join them. they will provide everything except clients for a cut of your fees. (30% is average) you will have to ay for your own practing certificate (400ish)

the alternative is that you hook up with your old firm or any other that will have you. this can work extremely well but be warned, the firms which are not set up to provide consultants with services dont do it very well! post is slow, they may want to retain control over clients, they can be slow to pay even tho it is them holding up bills.

i do a mixture of work for a large consultancy provider and for smaller firms who dont do what i do and occasionally get decent clients they want to keep in house. so they bring me in just to deal with that client.

if you want any more specific help, im happy for you to private message me and we can email!

armadillosocial Thu 10-Oct-13 12:03:22

After being inspired by this thread the first time (the £1000 a month one), I've finally set up on my own as a social media consultant.

It's scary as there are a lot of them about but I'm hoping that is a sign that it's a buoyant business.

I've been given a great business coach as part of a local scheme and she is really helping me to get the business side of things in order.

Here is my website, all comments gratefully receive wink


GinotPrigio Thu 10-Oct-13 12:51:07

Thanks Suzie. I will PM if you don't mind.

Armadillo - your website looks good. But my first thought when I look at a site is to always go to the "about" page to find out more about the person offering the service and their experience, etc. Are you reluctant to have one?

armadillosocial Thu 10-Oct-13 12:53:26

you are the second person to mention that! I've written it but I've forgotten to add it to the menu bar so it's disappeared. I'm going to put with contacts etc.

Will do it this afternoon!

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