Cookery bookclub - May - Jerusalem by Ottolenghi and Kitchen Diaries I by Nigel Slater

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tigerlilygrr Thu 25-Apr-13 10:40:36

Come join the Mumsnet cookery bookclub! Each month we choose two cookery books - one popular, like Nigella / Jamie / Delia, so you probably already have it / can borrow it and one a bit more unusual. We cook a minimum of two recipes each - you choose the recipe, they just have to be ones you have never cooked before- which works out at four new recipes each month.Then we chat about them!

To see our April thread about Feast by Nigella and the Smitten Kitchen blog / cookbook, click here ... This thread is still live as we're quite taken with these books and are keeping on going!

For May, our books are:
- Jerusalem by Ottolenghi
- Kitchen Diaries
and we'll post on this thread.

For June our books will be
- Mexican Food Made Easy by Thomasina Miers
- Thirty Minute Meals by Jamie Oliver

We will always try to pick at least one book with recipes available on the Internet, and local libraries are great for cookbooks if you can order in advance, so don't be put off if your cookbook collection isn't threatening the foundations of your house extensive.

We have veggies, low carbers and 5:2ers on the thread so this is very diet compatible! Although I refuse to take any responsibility for cake-induced weight gain (even my own).

Pantah630 Thu 25-Apr-13 11:08:16

Signing in, with a resolute no cakes for May rule in our house smile

I've been flicking through Jerusalem and like the look of the following. Roast chicken with Jerusalem artichoke and lemon, Chicken with caramelised onions and cardamom rice, turkey and courgette burgers and prawns, scallops & clams with tomato and feta.

I've only looked at May in Kitchen Diaries and fancy the lamb chops and the salmon & dill fish cakes and the lemon amaretti cream pots not much else. Will have a look through the rest of the book. I do like Nigel but my word he is coming across like a tosser in the few recipes I've read so far. It doesn't sound so bad when he speaks that way on the tv but seeing it written that way is making me cringe. sad

kneedeepindaisies Thu 25-Apr-13 16:10:16

Oooh May is sneaking up quickly isn't it.

I have Kitchen Diaries so just Jerusalem to get. That maybe a little May present to myself grin

I would like to say no cake in May but I think it's very unlikely.

Ooh, can I join (will head to the library and order the books tomorrow). Think I got in a little too late for the April thread.

tigerlilygrr Thu 25-Apr-13 16:54:26

Come on in jammy! But NO COOKING until 1st May. From these books.

blue2 Thu 25-Apr-13 17:07:27

Pantah - I've done the Chicken with onions and cardamon rice - its YUM.

I would suggest you try and get some barberries - they really add a 'zing' to the dish that currants just wouldn't give - IMHO

I need to find a few recipes out of the book to cook.

It was a Christmas present and so many of the dishes in Jerusalem require (in my mind) - decent weather or decent summer veg, that I'd mentally shelved it.

Time to get it out!

tigerlilygrr Thu 25-Apr-13 17:30:52

If anyone wants barberries and can't get them, I live near a host of middle eastern shops and am happy to procure and post! Although this cane up on another thread - sour cherries or dried cranberries work too.

XBenedict Thu 25-Apr-13 17:31:50

Oooh can't wait to get started with my Kitchen Diaries smile

Pantah630 Thu 25-Apr-13 17:47:15

Will bear that in mind tiger, thanks blue will give it a go next week smile

snoworneahva Thu 25-Apr-13 19:07:04

I have Jerusalem, made the stuffed aubergine with lamb and pine nuts last week - it was lovely, even the dcs enjoyed it! Good dinner party dish, all the work is done ahead of time.
I have Nigel Slaters kitchen diaries II and it's good for everyday stuff....might have a look at the first one.....but I find him annoyingly pretentious and overly verbose when writing a recipe.

Kiriwawa Thu 25-Apr-13 19:25:28

Oh wow those stuffed aubergines look amazing! I have made a beetroot and tomato salad from the book so far (got it in Feb) which was delicious.

I also have Kitchen Diaries so it would be rude not to join in grin

LifeofPo Thu 25-Apr-13 19:28:43

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contortionist Thu 25-Apr-13 19:34:21

Great - I have both of these but haven't cooked anything from either of them blush

LifeofPo Thu 25-Apr-13 19:35:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

You can get Sumac in Sainsburys but if you're stuck for ingredients you can buy from the Ottolenghi website. Be warned though, its so tempting! I haven't posted my results on the old thread yet as I cooked mostly this week but I spotted this thread starting.

I love Jerusalem and can recommend the Sofrito, Majedra, Shakshuka and Cod cakes in tomato sauce. We really loved the roast cauliflower and hazlenut salad too. I think I'm going to try some pastries - purely for the sake of this thread smile

tigerlilygrr Thu 25-Apr-13 19:40:56

contortionist that's perfect!

kneedeepindaisies Thu 25-Apr-13 20:23:23

Hello new people <waves>

I quite like the Kitchen Diaries. I know old Nige sounds a bit pompous but its one of those cookbooks I can read in bed. smile

Coconutfeet Thu 25-Apr-13 22:06:09

Ooh, can I join? I've got both those books but haven't cooked a lot from either of them. I'm in a bit of a cooking rut at the moment (got a baby and also a bit of a veg-refuser as well as dp who is on a low cholesterol diet, all of which limits my cooking options somewhat) so hopefully it'll be the push I need.

Well I can reserve Kitchen Diaries II (when I remember my library pin number), but Jerusalem is completely booked out till mid-May. The recipes on-line look very tasty though!

WilsonFrickett Thu 25-Apr-13 23:35:42

New to this board but couldnt resist the thread title. I LOVE Jerusalem and have finally finished 'just reading it' - it's so interesting - and have started cooking from it. YY to the chicken with onion and cardamom, I have to say its the best rice dish ever (am a good cook but not good at rice). Having people over tomorrow and my second go At the lamb shwarma is marinating as I type.

make the shwarma

That all said, I'm off Nigel. Too hair flicky.

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 26-Apr-13 00:36:07

I'm lurking, as I have too much on at mo to add another to-do to the pile.
But I am forced out of my lurkage by mentions of sumac. If you have not tried it sprinkled on a fried egg*, please do so at your earliest convenience. Don't laugh, it really is amazing.

*Yes, the egg may be in a sandwich.

tigerlilygrr Fri 26-Apr-13 07:06:19

Hello coconutfeet and wilsonfrickett, hazel I will try that! There is no egg dish I don't like. jammy it's kitchen diaries I not II. But either way, if you struggle we can pm recipes (google has been legendary so far.

My copy of Ottolenghi arrived yesterday so I am looking forward to cooking from it NEXT WEEK. When we officially start!

WilsonFrickett Fri 26-Apr-13 09:37:02

Hazel I now put sumac and za'atar in everything.

Pantah630 Fri 26-Apr-13 10:27:26

I have a glut of eggs, MiL has chickens, ducks and a goose, so will be trying the sumac out later smile

Hello everyone, can I join in too? I have both books, but I've only cooked a couple of things so far from Kitchen Diaries and nothing at all yet from Jerusalem (though I'm very tempted by the turkey & courgette burgers - yum. And I think DS would love those...)

Pantah630 Fri 26-Apr-13 13:56:17

Hello most do look at Aprils thread as well, you still have time to cook from SK and/or Feast smile

DidIMissSomething Fri 26-Apr-13 14:30:30

I'd love to join too please! Tiger this is such a great idea - can't wait to get cooking.

Thanks, Pantah, will do! Feast is one of my favourite cookery books (and, I think, Nigella's best) but there are still plenty of recipes in there that I haven't tried yet. Looking forward to lots of happy cooking in the next few weeks smile

Kiriwawa Fri 26-Apr-13 17:02:11

Sumac on fried egg you say? hmm

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 26-Apr-13 20:09:34

Er - yes, sumac on fried egg is delish. Not sure about the humphy face.. If you don't like the sound of it, just don't try it!

Did you try it, Panteh ?

Kiriwawa Fri 26-Apr-13 20:52:31

I didn't mean that meanly - I meant it in a hmmm how weird and wonderful! Oh dear, I'm very sorry blush

I'm going to have it tomorrow

snoworneahva Fri 26-Apr-13 21:31:55

I'm going to try the sumac on fried eggs too.

Love that we are doing Mexican made simple in June as I have just eared most of the BBQ section, I had barely noticed it before - how come?

Not getting another Jamie Book....I will not buy any more cookbooks, sits on hands - love being in the company of people who read cookbooks like novels. smile

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 26-Apr-13 21:48:56

Oh, god, I'm sorry Kiriwawa.
May I please plead sleep-deprived irritability?!

You don't have to have it. Sumac-y eggs are not a penance wink

I hope that people don't hate sumac-y eggs now! I am oddly nervous about it...

Kiriwawa Fri 26-Apr-13 21:49:24

I'm so embarrassed that my post didn't even make any sense.

Hazel, in case it wasn't clear, I meant 'wow' rather than hmm and I will never use smilies on my phone again!

I bought some sumac when I was given Jerusalem and I haven't opened it yet (the sumac, not the book)

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 26-Apr-13 22:03:33

No no, I am apologising for being a twat!!

Kiriwawa Fri 26-Apr-13 22:10:32

X-post grin

No, you were quite right. I meant it in a stroking beard sort of hmm way but that doesn't come across online (plus I don't have a beard)

I am going to have it for lunch tomorrow and if I hate it, I won't hold you responsible, promise! But I will report back smile

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 26-Apr-13 22:20:01

blush grin

Pantah630 Sat 27-Apr-13 08:06:30

hazel I just tried the sumac on a fried duck egg, I must be doing something wrong or my jar of Barts Crushed Sumac is no good, because I can't taste anything but egg. I tried sprinkling a little on at first, then a lot, still nothing. I promise I gave up smoking four years ago and have my taste buds back in full working order but nada, not a thing. When I sniff the jar I'm only getting a very slight scent, is it defective or am I? sad

BetsyBell Sat 27-Apr-13 11:35:25

Marking place... smile

ScienceRocks Sat 27-Apr-13 23:14:04

<marks place>

Pantah630 Sun 28-Apr-13 13:59:02

Managed to find some barberries in a middle eastern grocers across town smile

I lost track of the other thread (I stop looking at them once they get over about 250 posts, as I find them too unwieldly) but I'm resolved to try one thing from at least every other book on these threads.

Feast - I did the mattar paneer last week (but was cheating, as I've done it before) and also another Guinness cake. I still intend to try bits of the Georgian feast but need to wait until a holiday to do so.

Next week, I want to try something from Kitchen Diaries, but I'm still really, really struggling as to what. I keep looking through it but v little is grabbing me. If anybody can recommend anything for a vegetarian who hates tomatoes and aubergines and whose children won't eat mushrooms, I will try it.

ELR Sun 28-Apr-13 14:23:40

Just found this thread didn't realise we had one specially for May! Marking place anyway.
remus try the pumpkin soup with crispy fried onions think its 1st of January it's really nice I do it with butternut squash though and use stock not water.

Xiaoxiong Sun 28-Apr-13 16:42:31

Remus is the recipe for baked onions with Parmesan in the Kitchen Diaries? DH and I often have those with a sharply dressed green salad and some crusty bread for dinner. They are delicious.

I wasn't on the previous thread so looking forward to cooking along! I cooked loads out of the KD a few years ago - the roast pork with lemon and fennel seeds is amazing. Also need an excuse to buy Jerusalem!

Xiaoxiong Sun 28-Apr-13 17:01:48

Now looking at the KD index the baked onions are in there - the chickpea and pumpkin curry is good too IIRC as is the baked aubergine with feta and pine nuts.

Xiaoxiong Sun 28-Apr-13 17:02:49

Oh whoops you hate aubergine!! Ok ignore latter suggestion (it is really good though, maybe you will be converted wink)

The soup and the chickpea and pumpkin curry both look nice, but are v v similar to the sort of stuff I cook all the time and no longer really need recipes for.

The onions look gorgeous though - I'll make those (but perhaps not use quite as much cream!). Thank you. Will have them with a mustardy dressed salad and some lovely bread, on a night when the dds are not eating with us (as they would probably not eat them).

Pantah630 Sun 28-Apr-13 19:04:45

remus Jerusalem has lots of vegetarian dishes that don't include aubergine, mushrooms or tomatoes. It's worth a look, apparently you can pull up recipes on google books if you haven't already got it.

Thanks - will have a google. I haven't got enough money or space for buying cookery books right now.

Xiaoxiong Sun 28-Apr-13 22:51:58

Yay! They are wonderful, truly. I've never had a problem with the amount of cream called for wink The onions end up lovely and soft and sweet so maybe your DDs wouldn't hate them.

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 12:13:24

Hi all, I've been uncharacteristically quiet as I've been ill, but am back on good form now and ready to go! Hello all new people, so nice to get some more on board. I have never cooked anything from either of this month's books so any suggestions, preferably savoury and relatively healthy would be welcome (May is also a no baking month for me as April was immense and now so am I!)

Also we need to choose our books for August (woo hoo). I have kept a list of suggestions so far which I will post later on today. New people, any ideas? As a reminder we look for one 'popular' (Delia, nigella, Hugh etc) and one more unusual. Ideally both books would have recipes available online or at least be available from local libraries. We've done a nigella one and Jamie will be next month so perhaps something different would be good.

Tiger, can I put forward hfw veg for August? I love it, and it came up on the April thread quite a bit.

ELR Mon 29-Apr-13 13:38:25

Hi I second the Hugh veg everyday it's fab.
Madhur Jaffrey's ultimate curry bible is good too.
Just been looking through the May books and like the idea of beef meatballs with broad beans and lemon and the semolina, marmalade and coconut cake from Jerusalem and pork lemon and potatoes and lemon ice cream from KD.

Elr- I think madhur jaffrey is julys choice. But good callgrin

ELR Mon 29-Apr-13 14:08:23

pregnant I think you are right I even recommended it for then!!

Soupqueen Mon 29-Apr-13 14:52:13

I was going to recommend HFW's Veg book too, it's super. My main issue would be finding recipes I've not tried yet!

I have both Kitchen Diaries and Jerusalem but made nothing from either so really looking forward to this month.

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 15:47:53

Honestly I really don't know what's wrong with me but yet again I have got my months muddled up. Sorry everyone. Here is a recap.

For May, our books are:
- Jerusalem by Ottolenghi AND TAMIMI who I have rudely failed to acknowledge so far (I bet he wishes they'd named their restaurant after him now, I would)
- Kitchen Diaries I by Nigel slater

For June our books will be
- Mexican Food Made Easy by Thomasina Miers
- Thirty Minute Meals by Jamie Oliver

So now we need to choose JULY. Not August. As we are only choosing books three months in advance (I think it's less fun if we plan too far ahead).

Madhur jaffrey was proposed for July, but not a specific book, I don't think (we can't do the vegetarian one as it was too hard to get hold of from libraries etc). In a sec I will come back with the list of other suggestions. Hugh f-w was definitely a massive favourite. Back soon..

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 16:08:19

Suggestions for July so far
- madhur jaffrey ultimate curry bible
- Hugh f-w veg
- pick a food mag and cook from that (sainsburys and good food mags suggested)
- rose Elliott
- Lorraine Pascale
- Paul Hollywood how to bake
- Tonia Buxton my Greek kitchen
- felicity cloake 'cook the perfect'
- river cafe cookbook or river cafe easy
- tessa kiros
- prashad / veggiestan

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 16:09:46

Looking at this list and reccs so far, how about mj ultimate curry bible and hugh f-w veg? Should be a healthy month so I am going to push for Lorraine Pascale in aug to even matters out

glorious Mon 29-Apr-13 16:21:21

Those sound good tigerlily . I must get to the library for May's books.

OddSockMonster Mon 29-Apr-13 16:25:39

The Fabulous Baker Brothers new book looks quite tasty, don't know if that's been mentioned yet. Their first book is very good and I'd like an excuse to get the second.

OddSockMonster Mon 29-Apr-13 16:27:48

Those July books look good!

Pantah630 Mon 29-Apr-13 16:30:29

My Greek Kitchen is ideal for summer, seconding HFW Veg Everyday. I think my boss my have the Curry Bible, shall have to see if I can borrow it.

thepeanutsparent Mon 29-Apr-13 16:38:24

Hello hello everyone can I join in please? I have Jerusalem and have done only the hummus - which seems to have solved the "how to get hummus as yummy as the one from the shops" question on another thread. Will get KD as late birday present hopefully. Hooray!

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 16:52:34

Right then let's go with Hugh f-w veg every day and mj ultimate curry bible for July. I will add the baker boys books to the list and re-present it next month for your delectation! pantah I like the sound of that Greek book, I don't know much about Greek food really.

Ugh I hate that HFW one.

I like the idea of picking a food mag and doing something from that.

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 17:45:56

remus I think it's a good idea as well. But please everyone keep the suggestions coming for future months, don't feel we're full up!

I like the idea of picking a food mag too, and it's cheap on the purse stringsgrin

ScienceRocks Mon 29-Apr-13 17:54:08

My library doesn't list either of the July books so I'll be googling or skipping that month. Not sure why my library is so rubbish as it doesn't list Jerusalem either sad

Science - I can PM you some HFW recipes, if you want. But I have been distinctly underwhelmed by them tbh.

XBenedict Mon 29-Apr-13 18:04:14

Great choices for me, I have one of the books for each month so far smile

kneedeepindaisies Mon 29-Apr-13 18:10:32

Just checking in and marking my place. Hopefully the library have those books. They have Jerusalem which shocked me!

ScienceRocks Mon 29-Apr-13 18:12:22

I've done some hfw recipes in the past (from mags) but the only thing I have liked has been brownies. He doesn't fill me with inspiration (and I've heard he isn't a very nice man, which doesn't help).

Think I'm of the same mind as Remus...

cookerybookaddict Mon 29-Apr-13 19:24:30

How about the new Indian vegetarian cook book by Anjum Anand? I bought this book a few months ago and I love it. Some of the recipes are traditional Indian recipes but others are more fusion. Every recipes I've made, so far, has been lovely. I've also made a number of recipes from Jerusalem some of which have been great, but others have been quite disappointing. I'll do another post about Jerusalem when I've got more time!

Accentuatethepositive Mon 29-Apr-13 19:59:36

Ooh I'd like to join as have somewhat lost my cooking mojo since having DD (now 20 weeks)- hopefully I can manage 2 recipes but who knows it might be too much! Will lurk either way for inspiration.

Only have KD at the moment, more of a cookbook to read from than cook from IMO - my supermarket shopping never quite measures up to his forays to farmers markets and Chinatown. That said I have made several delicious things from it. The vietnamese beef salad is amazing and was at one time on regular rotation in our house. I'd definitely recommend it.
And it's a bit wintery for may but the mustardy pork chop one is v nice if hugely unhealthy. Plus I always use the 'benchmark bolognaise' recipe for my spag Bol.

tigerlilygrr Mon 29-Apr-13 20:02:33

science when you say your library doesn't have them, does that also mean you can't request them from other libraries? My London library is pretty small but luckily I can draw from the stock of the whole borough. Just asking in case ... Anyway, I am more than happy to pm you and everyone else recipes when the time comes.

Xiaoxiong Mon 29-Apr-13 20:18:09

I agree with Remus re HFW. Have the MJ curry bible and it's brilliant.

Another suggestion - Jamie's Great Britain. I don't generally get on with JO but this one really is very good indeed.

ScienceRocks Mon 29-Apr-13 20:56:49

Tiger, my borough doesn't have them shock

Nolda Tue 30-Apr-13 11:36:18

Hello, please may I join in? I've managed to get the wrong Kitchen Diaries from the library but have now ordered the other one. Jerusalem is still on order, I hope I'm not the 10th on the list!

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

I love jamies great Britain too. I am a cookbook whore, so far I have endorsed all books suggested.

tigerlilygrr Tue 30-Apr-13 12:31:31

But pregnant, what do you think about Jamie's Great Britain?

OddSockMonster Tue 30-Apr-13 12:46:06

grin What's that pregnant, didn't quite catch that?

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 13:02:26

aww pregnant, I'm so pleased you agree with me so emphatically smile I too am a cookbook whore - Eat Your Books has been a godsend!!

Yes, typical, a post in which I profess to be a whore just had to be repeatedgrin
Bloody smart phones. I love all cookbooks, I hate my smartphone.

ScienceRocks Tue 30-Apr-13 13:16:02

Pregnantpause, are you sure you love cookbooks and hate smartphones? You have seemed more sure about other pats on this thread wink

ScienceRocks Tue 30-Apr-13 13:16:20

Posts, not pats, obviously blush

tigerlilygrr Tue 30-Apr-13 14:50:06

Right, I have been on ocado this morning and the ingredients for chicken with caramelised onion and cardamom rice, and Swiss chard with tahini and yoghurt sauce, plus prob mejadra (sp) are winging their way to me ahead of the weekend. So that's my first two from Ottolenghi. I have to say that I really like this book so far; it's a great read and while the recipes are pretty unusual, they don't look that difficult.

I really love the Mejadra and have made it a few times now. Same with the Shakshuka. This is by far my favourite book in years. He was so lovely on the webchat too.

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 14:55:58

Didn't he say on the webchat that he and his partner have just adopted a baby and would be stopping by MN for advice? smile

tigerlilygrr Tue 30-Apr-13 15:31:23

Oh I've just read that a webchat... What a lovely man!

Cherrypi Tue 30-Apr-13 16:13:32

Right I'm joining in. Ordered Jerusalem from the library. Determined to widen my cooking repertoire this year.

karmakameleon Tue 30-Apr-13 17:09:10

Signing in for the new thread. Been a busy weekend so not had time to look at either book but will get on the case tonight.

Science if you live in London, you can join libraries in other boroughs too you know. I've just done that as every man and his dog wants a copy of Jerusalem in my borough so I was way down the queue. I just walked down to the library in the next borough with my ID, filled out the forms and took a copy of Jerusalem away with me. Very easy.

Also, given that there seem to be a lot of bakers on the thread, maybe we could have a dedicated baking book one week. My vote would be for Dan Lepard's Short and Sweet but I'm sure there are plenty of others. May have to balance it out with something healthy though that month, are there any decent low fat cookbooks?

tigerlilygrr Tue 30-Apr-13 17:51:50

On the healthy point, I'd like to nominate the hairy dieters one for later months as a lot of mners rave about it and I have it at home, spine uncracked, pages pristine! I'll put Dan lepard on the list too.

I was thinking about proposing a challenge alongside the two books each month actually eg this month, we will cook two recipes each from x and y and also make macaroons, or learn how to cut up a whole chicken or whatever. Or maybe having a separate thread. Basically I think I would benefit from hearing about other people's misfires! If anyone is interested let me know.

(sneaks in to confirm my credentials as cookbook whore, by saying, I love the hairy dieters bookgrin )

ELR Tue 30-Apr-13 19:07:17

tiger that's a fab idea, I actually have my own business teaching cooking classes mainly to children but am doing some work with the probation service at the minute, just basic cooking skills and bread making. I don't have any qualifications in cooking i just love food but there are still a few things I have never done.
The main things I have never tried are to cut up a chicken, make macaroons, make fresh pasta, make fresh gnocchi and id like to fine tune my meringue making!
I second the Dan Lepard book, not sure about hairy bikers though am willing to try it.

On the menu tomorrow is the beef meatballs with lemon and broadbeans from Jerusalem.

kneedeepindaisies Tue 30-Apr-13 19:45:40

Another vote for Hairy Bikers.

ELR that sounds like a great job. Very jealous.

kneedeepindaisies Tue 30-Apr-13 19:53:25

Also regarding the baking book I have Jo Wheatley's first book and it has some some lovely recipes. However a Mary Berry one might be a more popular option.

tigerlilygrr Tue 30-Apr-13 19:56:00

ELR glad you're enthused. I will start a new thread for challenges as otherwise the detail might be a bit tedious if others on the thread just want to do the books ("you use 125g not 150g for your macaroons, really?")

ScienceRocks Tue 30-Apr-13 19:56:43

Hairy bikers get my vote. I have their diet book and the pie one. I've done a couple of recipes from each, but my pie making has been somewhat hindered by my dislike of their pastry recipe (mine, from home ec classes in the dim and distant last, serves me much better!).

I have been keen to try some dan Lepard too! I have done a recipe or two of him from magazines, and they have been very good.

The challenge thing sounds interesting. Of the things you mention, I have tried making macaroons (two and half hours of full on effort and they were nice, but not any better than I can buy at paul!), and making pasta (ditto, but substitute waitrose for paul).

ScienceRocks Tue 30-Apr-13 20:01:47

I also make meringues quite regularly and fresh gnocchi. I used to buy whole chickens for jointing, but now just can't be arsed (probably because it is cheaper to buy cuts of meat than it used to be).

Thanks for the tip re other London boroughs. I will give that a go as I am quite near a library in another borough.

Surprised nobody had mentioned Gordon yet. Jury is out for me on his books at the moment. Some of his recipes are fabulous, others are simply too much hassle!

And talking of Gordon, how about Marcus waring? His "perfect" book is very good. Mark sergeant, another GR protege, also has a decent cookbook with some different stuff in.

Claudia Roden may be worth a look one month too.

kneedeepindaisies Tue 30-Apr-13 20:06:19

I've got Gordon's World Food and I'm not sure about it really.

Can I throw Rick Stein's name in for a future month?

frenchfancy Tue 30-Apr-13 20:18:34

Could I suggest Delia's summer for either July or August? Love the idea of HFW veg, I don't have it yet, but I have his other books and have been wanting to buy it.

I don't have Jerusalem (yet) but the stuffed aubergine recipe looks delicious, it a little out of season, my aubergine plants are only about 1" high at the moment.

ELR Tue 30-Apr-13 21:16:39

It's funny but I own about 300 cook books and not one by Gordon, Delia or Rick Stein. I have made Delias Eccles cakes with a few tweaks and they were lovely.
I know this is the May thread but I must urge you all to make the roasted pear & chocolate chunk scones from the SK blog they are delish!

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 21:24:52

Yes yes yes to karma's suggestion of Dan Lepard Short and Sweet. I never could bake bread for sandwiches before I bought that magical book, let alone all the other wonderful things in there.

ZuleikaJambiere Tue 30-Apr-13 23:01:12

Hi, can I join you? I've read all of your April thread, and it was more mouthwatering than any cookbook or blog I've read recently and now I'm itching to join the fun.

I'm hoping this book club will help me get better at meal planning. I went back to work at Christmas after maternity leave and since then more meals than not have been cobbled together from the random contents of the fridge and freezer. I know meal planning will make my evenings quicker and tastier, but I'm struggling to get into the swing of it.

I have KD I and II, and I think KD I is probably my favourite of all my cookbooks, although I think I spend more time reading it than actually cooking from it. KD II is by my bed at the moment, I got it for Christmas, but I'm finding it harder going. Whereas KD I (and Appetite) are tempting and enthusing, Nige seems to have a touch of verbal diarrhoea in KD II, to the point that I'mthinking of eBaying it once I've finished it as I doubt I can be bothered with trawling through the waffle again.

I've flicked through the May chapter today, and there are quite a few in just that month that tempt me to try.

I don't have Jerusalem, but have looked on the website that was linked to. Is this lemon and celery salad recipe in Jerusalem? Please say yes, it sounds amazing and something that we love to have alongside jacket potatoes or sausage rolls or something easy that we enjoy for a weekend lunch.

Nolda Wed 01-May-13 07:13:11

Yes to Dan Lepard Short and Sweet. I have another book of his and would love an excuse to buy this one too.

Hi ZJ [waves].

PartTimeDomesticGoddess Wed 01-May-13 09:10:02

If there's room for one more, I'd love to join in too please? I have been having my long awaited new kitchen fitted, which I hope to be almost fully operational by the weekend (although I think I will have to wait a little longer for my cookery book shelves to be refitted so that I can unpack those boxes). I am beyond excited with my new induction hobbed range cooker (which I have christened Clara) and can't wait to get to some cooking with her (I hope we will be very happy together for a long time grin)
Although I have a reasonable collection of cookery books, I don't have any Nigel Slater so am more than happy to treat myself to that one and find some Ottolenghi recipes online. Will report back next week.
In the meantime, have loved reading the April thread and looking at the SK website, which I have now subscribed to. Can't wait to try the lemon bars and the candied nuts that were recommended, as well as spend some more time looking through there to see what else I can try.

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 09:51:05

ZJ I'm really glad you like reading the the April thread, I think we all agree it was fun to write! At one point I thought it would be just pantah and me so I'm really pleased with how it has blossomed. parttimeDG pleased to see you too, I am a bit jealous of your range cooker though! That's on my wish list for that mythical time when we can redo our kitchen...

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 09:58:20

frenchfancy et al, I will add all suggestions to the list. I am also surprised by the lack of Gordon but tbh, I don't know who buys his books. I don't have any, and not do any of my cooking friends, to my knowledge, plus no one has ever recommended one of his recipes for me. I leafed through one in a bookshop once and perhaps it was unrepresentative, but it just seemed like a lot of fancy roast dinners and then some classic puddings, I wasn't excited by it. I am prepared to be corrected though as really haven't given him much of a chance to date. And his restos are fab!

Poledra Wed 01-May-13 10:02:47

Jumping on here to say I made the onion soup from the Kitchen Diaries last night and it was delicious (and used up some rather elderly onions that were in dire need of consumption!). Served it to DH with some cheesy soda bread (Paul Hollywood's Bread, if you're interested) and he was most impressed.

I cannot bear to watch Nigel Slater, but I do find his recipes reliable. I made DH the coffee and walnut cake from the KD for his birthday cake and I think he (DH) are almost the whole thing himself smile

Poledra Wed 01-May-13 10:04:31

Oh, I have Gordon Ramsay's Sunday Lunch, and it has some great recipes in it - the beef wellington was sublime (though it should be, as it has a very expensive cut of meat in it - not one to make for a big family gathering!).

Quick post to get this on my threads I'm on. Will be dipping in and out, babies permitting.

I really like the look of the NS chicken and tarragon - Ingredients added to my shopping list. I can recommend the chocolate brownies. They are perfect. Most important thing is not to overlook them and to cut only when completely cold.

I haven't got any G'S cookbooks but his dauphinoise potatoes are fabulous and is the only recipe I use. S he does have his uses.

ELR Wed 01-May-13 10:21:52

zj thanks for the link to that salad looks good, but I think you may just cause a sizeable dent in my bank account as I now want to order everything from the website!
Just looked at the menu for Nopi and think I will get DH to take me soon, or maybe if anyone lives in london we should meet up at the end of may for the pre theatre menu and discuss the book properly! Just a though?

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 11:34:13

Ooh elr I'd be up for that. I love nopi!

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 11:36:09

Hi freebutton good to see you, thanks for the reccs. Please if anyone has cooked from the books already let us know what you have found to be good... So helpful. I have to admit I am struggling with Nigel... It's the format, why can't each recipe have its own page!

Nolda Wed 01-May-13 11:42:30

What a shame I live too far away from London, I would have loved a good foodie chat over a super meal.

I was given Gordon Ramsay Makes it Easy a few years ago. I have made only one thing from it (which was terrible) and haven't opened it since. I do use GR's recipe for pastry for mince pies though which I found on the internet.

TheRealFellatio Wed 01-May-13 11:55:28

I'd love to do some Gordon and some Rick as well, and I already have most of their books although I am eternally grateful for the excuse to buy some new books. grin

I have been busy catching up on my Feast cooking this morning (made the Guinness chocolate cake and the kidney bean dip, and will make the red wine braised lentils with bacon for dinner tonight.) will try to do two things from Smitten Kitchen before the end of the weekend and then I am up to speed for May.

Although I have to wait ages fro my May books to be delivered to Qatar but I have one of the June books so I might work in reverse. grin

I have tried ns squash laksa, it's very nice.
Also the sausage salami stew on the cover, is as delicious as it looks , very wintry though.

Trying the pork and lime patties this afternoon with a watercress salad. Will channel the pretentious git in me and lunch outdoors as well I think, really get in the mindsetgrin

Jerusalem arrived yesterday and looks amazing, who was it that could source barberries, sumac and za taar, as I have no chance if finding them where I am and Amazon are charging 3.99 postage for each!
I have Gorden makes it easy and I too have only cooked one recipe from it which sucked. My DB has all of his books though and swears by him.

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 12:51:12

Pregnant I can get all of those for you. I live near edgware rd so middle eastern heaven here ( not quite as good as realfellatio in Qatar but postage will be cheaper)! If you pm me your address and a list I will send them to you on Saturday.

Pantah630 Wed 01-May-13 13:24:35

I'm just planning my shopping list for tonight's trip to Waitrose. I'm intending to do the chicken with onions and cardamon rice, lamb shwarma and mejadra this week after so many recommendations.
The baked onions are looking good from KD too.
Will let you know how they go when prepared and eaten.
Loving that we have so many joining us now, am thinking of listing my cookbooks in the hope of encouraging you to pick from the ones I haven't cooked from yet so many of them I don't have any Gordon or Rick either surprisingly, though I use his steak Diane recipe from the C4 website and my cousin swears by Ricks pastichio recipe smile

Poledra Wed 01-May-13 13:33:06

If you do try any of GR's recipes do NOT do the wilted lettuce as a side-dish. There is a reason that no other bugger heats up lettuce. It's because it tastes like (I imagine) algae skimmed off the top of a particularly scummy pond would taste. <shudder>

ELR Wed 01-May-13 13:41:59

Just back from waitrose and they had sumac and za taar but no barberries.

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 14:05:38

I will be getting some middle eastern goodies for pregnsnt and posting them on Saturday so if you can't get them, let me know and I will get some more. I would think that it's as cheap near me as anywhere else in the UK. I'm on the second half of mat leave now so have plenty of time for little errands!

kneedeepindaisies Wed 01-May-13 14:25:08

Does anyone have any recommendations from May's books?

I'm definitely trying the brownies from KD's but that's as far as I have got.

Xiaoxiong Wed 01-May-13 15:39:17

I'm looking through my copy of KD and these are the pages with splashes of mystery stuff (ie. have been used!):
- the "really good spaghetti bolognese"
- spiced roast potatoes with yogurt & mint
- pork chops, mustard sauce
- english cheese salad
- roast lamb with anchovy and mint
- chickpea & sweet potato curry
- lemon amaretti cream pots (not even really a recipe but lovely)
- roast pork with lemon & potatoes
- baked tomatoes
- baked aubergine with feta and mint
- baked onions

I seem to have petered out sometime around mid-autumn!!

kneedeepindaisies Wed 01-May-13 15:55:33

Thanks Xiao. I have mystery splashes in my cook books too smile

kneedeep my favourite from Jerusalem is the Sofrito but we've also enjoyed the Mejadra, Cod Cakes and Shakshuka for brunch. The cauli and hazlenut salad is a great lunch dish and 13mo Ds is a fan of the turkey and courgette burgers.

Pantah630 Wed 01-May-13 16:41:01

Noooooo xiao you mustn't say the lemon amaretti pots are delicious. I was going for no bake May or no pud May. I see am going to give in to temptation now

kneedeepindaisies Wed 01-May-13 17:05:39

Pantah. You resisted for a whole day which is longer then I ever manage grin

kneedeepindaisies Wed 01-May-13 17:16:30

Ooh thank you EnglishGirl. If my copy ever arrives at the library I'll look for those.

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 17:25:00

Thread is now up on cookery techniques...

ELR Wed 01-May-13 17:49:54

Just finished making the meatballs with broadbeans from ottelongi they are really good I are a few changes and one mistake but still good. I made the baharaat as instructed on pg 299. The mistake I made was you are supposed to add half the broad beans at the end, I misread it and added them at the same time so visually it doesn't look as good but tastes fab. Had the lemon and celery salad as posted by zj was lovely and rice too.

ZuleikaJambiere Wed 01-May-13 17:51:09

I love onion soup, so I might try the KD one that Polendra tried, as one of recipes this month. French onion soup (complete with cheesy toasty topping of course) is my favourite soup

How was your outdoor lunch Pregnant? We had tea outside yesterday for the first time this year and it was a real treat

I'll flick through my KD tonight, with the hope of narrowing down my choice of recipes and also to remind myself of ones I've tried already. I'll report back with my recommendations

I had a Gordon book, possibly Sunday Lunch, and got rid of it. I didn't find anything in it to inspire me and Gordon's face on the cover was far too smug. I'm not a fan of him. Hugh seems to be polarising us, but I got his Veg book and haven't tried anything yet, so would be keen to have that one month to get me going. I'm also a Delia fan - does anyone have her Vegetarian book? I love that one

ELR Wed 01-May-13 17:52:30

Also the change I made was that I had to add half pork mince instead of lamb, which would prob never be done but was still delish, just waiting for DH so we can eat ours so far ive just had a tiny bit of the kids.

ZuleikaJambiere Wed 01-May-13 17:54:14

Oh, and thanks for the lovely welcome.

Hi to Nolda <waves back>, I thought I'd spotted you in here!

I told Dh about the pork patties, he wants in, so we'll eat them this evening.grin

I did however have the grilled mint and harissa chicken with a watercress salad and it was delicious. my favourite thing about Nigel is that there are lunches, easy lunches, so I can make two recipes a day potentially. Three if I wanted a cakewink

sayanything Wed 01-May-13 19:40:08

Marking place. Laid low with a stomach bug so no cooking for a while.

ELR Wed 01-May-13 19:41:08

Hi I know I only just posted about what I made for dinner to night but I just need to say OMG!! It was delicious, DH gave it a 9/10 and I would agree it was devine. The lemon and celery salad that ZJ linked to on the ottelongi website was so good. I think I may need to invite some friends over so I can cook it again!!

ELR Wed 01-May-13 19:44:01

Also I usually dislike green peppers and leave them to rot in the fridge so the salad is a great way to use them up, I roasted over a flame on the hob too instead of in the oven. Sorry I know I am going on a bit but it was just so nice, I love this thread thanks tiger

Xiaoxiong Wed 01-May-13 20:00:15

Ok I've just made April 2nd's dinner from the Kitchen Diaries. I know it's unseasonal but hey, spring is late this year. Does this count as one of my two recipes this month? grin

I've also read May 1st's entry as it is May 1st today. I love it. Can't wait till DS is old enough to understand that Saturday mornings in summer are sacrosanct and should be devoted to coffee, croissants and the saturday papers!!!

greensnail Wed 01-May-13 20:46:48

I'm back from my cooking grump and all ready for the May books! Jerusalem is fantastic and there's so much I want to cook in there but am planning to start with falafels and homous tomorrow so have got my chick peas soaking and ready.

Struggling a bit more with kitchen diaries although I did spot a couple of things I might try. Off to read the thread now and see what the rest of you are up to.

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 21:37:25

sayanything i have sent a tall dark man with a boom box to stand outside your bedroom window playing Peter Gabriel songs until you're better, ok?

ZuleikaJambiere Wed 01-May-13 21:39:08

Right, I think I've chosen my first recipes - after ELR's glowing review it has to be the lemon and celery salad, so I'll see if I can get some sumac at the weekend. And then from KD I fancy the very easy sounding lemon and basil linguine (May 2nd), DH doesn't like basil, so it can be a quick and easy tea for me one evening when he's away. Nige talks about doing a version with cream, which also sounds nicer (a cooler day version perhaps?) so I might do both and compare (not on the same day - that would be greedy!) Shopping list written for these first too

Does anyone else feel a bit like they're breaking some rule by reading the other months in KD? I agree with Xiaoxiong that it is more April-ly than May-y this year, but still feel bad for some strange reason

I've flicked through KD to eliminate those recipes I've already done - for those wanting recommendations, here's my thoughts ...
Jan - a velvety soup for a clear, cold day (leek, potato and parmesan, a regular make)
- chicken broth with noodles, lemon and mint (the best chicken noodle soup, so good, we often have roast chicken just so I can make stock for this)
- spiced crumbed mackerel with smoked paprika (my default recipe when I have mackerel, I love it)
Feb - smoked haddock with flageolet beans and mustard (sure I've cooked this before, but can't remember what on earth it's like!)
- pork chops, mustard sauce (make them regularly)
- treacle tart (very good, I do love treacle tart)
Apr - mackerel with cumin and lemon (good, but not as good as the Jan mackerel recipe)
May - asparagus and lemon risotto (my second favourite asparagus dish, my first being steamed with lots of melted butter)
Jun - broad bean and dill 'hummus' (only made a tiny portion with the 1 plant DD grew at nursery, but what we had was nice)
Aug - bread and tomato salad (I don't remember putting all the cucumber and peppers in, I'm pretty sure I just used lots of tomatoes, bread and the dressing)
Sep - courgette and Lancashire cheese crumble (a bit bland I think, although it was a while ago)
Oct - English apple cake (I made this as a pudding, served warm with cream, yum)

Has anyone got any recommendations from Ottolenghi that are must tries?

tigerlilygrr Wed 01-May-13 21:41:36

elr sounds good. I think i am gettibg broad beans in the next veg box, if so I will try them.I always think meatballs are a bit of a faff but then I try them and realise they are easy, and so much lighter than shop bought ones. Bit of a spoiler... The meatballs de mehico in the thomasina miers book for June are the best I've ever tried, truly melt in the mouth. But I also have a good book called marvellous meals with mince (just been reprinted!) and there's a few nice recipes in there as well.

karmakameleon Wed 01-May-13 22:08:15

I'm off to a good start having made the NS chicken with tarragon for dinner tonight. It was gorgeous and will probably be served again chez kameleon. It's another April recipe but like everyone else, I felt it was more fitting for the weather this year. We did sit outside in the garden for the first time this to eat it though and enjoyed the evening sun. smile

Had a flick through Jerusalem and there isn't anything I don't want to cook in there! I will probably try to trek over to a middle eastern shop at the weekend but was hoping that some one who has already cooked a bit fro it could tell me the must have ingredients I will need. I have sumac, zaatar, barberries and lots of fresh herbs on my list but is there anything that I'm missing?

Well I am paying no heed to the season/month in kd. I feel naughty about it thoughgrin

The coriander and lime patties were fragrant and delicious. With a salad they made for a very tasty light supper.

Off to find a recipe from Jerusalem that I can take to work as a lunch, everything looks lovely.

ELR Thu 02-May-13 11:31:31

Morning, I'm fasting today so not cooking but have spent the morning sitting in the sun with a black coffee and drooling over May's books.

So from Jerusalem I am going to make the courgette and turkey burgers with sour cream and sumac dressing I will serve them in flat breads and think I will make the lemon and celery salad again to go with them.

Kitchen Diarys, I am going to make the lemon ice cream as i think it will make a nice pudding after the turkey and courgette burgers.
I have been looking at April, may, June months but am liking a lot in August.

I have got loads of other things I am going to make but am choosing two at a time to keep it simple.

I will make the above on Saturday.

Kiriwawa Thu 02-May-13 13:55:21

I've got friend staying this weekend so I'm going to make the stuffed aubergines from Jerusalem that snoworneavha recommended.

I realised that I don't own KD annoyingly - I got confused blush

Perhaps I should get it - the reviews are brilliant!

ScienceRocks Thu 02-May-13 13:55:23

Just popping in to list some of the stuff I have cooked in the past from kitchen diaries:

Feb - smoked haddock, flageolet beans and mustard - quite nice
Pork chops, mustard sauce - good

May - lemon and basil linguine - quick and easy, keep some of the pasta cooking water to loosen the sauce
Asparagus and lemon risotto - takes much longer than he says, but good (I often add leftover roast chicken to great effect)

September - courgette and Lancashire cheese crumble - takes over an hour to make but I actually really liked it

October - roast haddock with bacon and parsley - nice

November - mushroom lasagne - really good and freezes well

December - sautéed chicken with spices, fennel and cream - I love this, and cook it a lot but use single cream or creme fraiche to cut down on the calories and save the fennel fronds for garnishing
Grilled pork steaks with vermouth and fennel - very good

kefybaby Thu 02-May-13 14:31:20

Could I also join you, please? I've read the April thread and got all excited about expanding my culinary horizons! Are there any Ottolenghi recipes online? Preferably one or two the ingredients for which can be sourced at a (large) tesco, please!

ELR Thu 02-May-13 14:32:42

Thanks science I love fennel so will give those december recipes a go.

Kiriwawa Thu 02-May-13 14:50:17

Thanks science - I also love fennel and have found both those fennel recipes online smile

tigerlilygrr Thu 02-May-13 16:05:53

kefybaby there are tons of Ottolenghi recipes on the guardian website, happy hunting! I have looked for an index from the book but have had no joy so far , but if you like the sound of a specific one mentioned upthread, generally you can find it if you google it. Or we can pm to you.

Pantah630 Thu 02-May-13 20:11:21

We've just finished eating the chicken with caramelised onions and cardamon rice, it was very nice, served it with salad and instead of plain yoghurt I turned it into tzatziki smile

I have a leg of lamb so will do the shwarma at the weekend. Thanks for the recommendations folks, like the look of the celery salad linked upthread as well.

sayanything Thu 02-May-13 20:14:00

tigerlilugrr thanks, it worked!!! I'm miraculously feeling much better.

I'm leafing through KDI and realising that, although I love the book, I haven't cooked much from it.

The chickpea and sweet potato curry is a staple here and his brownie recipe is unsurpassed IMHO (and I've tried loads).

The chicken stew (March 4) was ok - a bit too oily in the end, even though I followed his instructions not to use stock).

Thyme and feta lamb (April) was delicious, though hardly a recipe.

Hot and sticky roast quail was loooovely.

And errrm, that's it (plus a lentil dish that wasn't a recipe at all on page 316). Now I have to decide what to cook.

kikidee Thu 02-May-13 21:29:48

Hello, I'd love to join please. I caught the tail end of the April thread and thought it was a great idea. I have just collected my copy of Jerusalem from the library tonight and KD will arrive in the next few days. DH is vegetarian so I'm looking for ideas for dishes to try for him and I'm cooking for my book group next Saturday so any tips for recipes to feed 6-8 people that can be prepared in advance (and will complement cocktails!) would be gratefully received.

kefybaby Thu 02-May-13 21:54:01

Thanks a lot, tiger!

Sayanything- I think that is what Nigel is all about. Dinner ideas, not recipes, but ideas. It's greatsmile

Hunn1e Thu 02-May-13 23:43:27

I posted on the wrong thread but have just managed to track you down - having so much fun with this!

I love the Ottolenghi books - I also love his online grocery shop. Date molasses.....mouth watering at the thought!

I made the preserved lemons about 2 months ago so have only just been able to start using them - what a revelation! They are wonderful in all sorts of dishes as well as the recipes that he recommends. I use them a lot with couscous and salads. They work really well with quinoa too.

My favourite recipe from Jerusalem is the Open Kibbeh (page 160) - it's like a cakey Jewish pizza.

Shakshuka (page 66) is a sort of Tunisian version of eggs in purgatory and is great hangover food!

Oh and I can't not mention the roasted potatoes with caramel and prunes (page 86) - sounds odd but it really really works!

Going to have to try one I've not done before for this evening as looking through the book has me salivating!

If you like this book and Ottolenghi's others, you'd probably like Claudia Roden's Arabesque too.

Hunn1e Thu 02-May-13 23:48:11

In the suggestions for future months - Raymond Blanc's books are all great. I want to adopt him and keep him in my larder to wheel out and cheer me up when its cold and miserable outside!

And how about Tessa Kiros - Apples for Jam, that's a really lovely family food book.

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 07:31:23

hunn1e tessa kiros has come up a couple of times now; I'll put her on the suggested list. I'd be keen as her books are so beautiful; I am shallow with cookbooks! Also Claudia Roden and also, although I haven't tried her myself, Anna del conte would be good. I always think those two are the cookery writers' cookery writers as they get referenced so much!

Hunn1e Fri 03-May-13 07:55:31

I love Anna Del Conte - have a few of her books, so yes please! If you want something a little off beat, try something like Arthur Schwartz - Naples at Table. Can be hard to get hold of but I'm all for any book that includes recipes where you use the whole outer drum of a Parmesan wheel as a seRving dish with the bits of cheese still inside melting into the sauce......wonder how many Google searches for whole Parmesan that will generate!

Hunn1e Fri 03-May-13 07:58:58

Looking through my collection the Taste of Italy by Giuilian Buiggillo is probably the most used with Good Housekeeping's Cookery Book as my go to bible.

I've had to break my own rules and buy a Jamie book for next month though. Don't know why I hate him so much! Probably the salt content!

ELR Fri 03-May-13 09:58:51

Morning just looked through my cookery books and I seem to have quite a few I haven't used! The more popular house hold name ones are Rachel Allen, Ainsley Harriet and Anthony Worrel Thompson!
The Rachel ones are not too bad and Ainsley family friendly food is quite good for learning the basics and Worrel Thompson, well I just don't know what to say, I have 2 of his too!!
The Leon books are quite good.
Well off to the shops now to purchase some ingredients for my weekend of cooking.

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 10:24:29

you use the whole outer drum of a Parmesan wheel as a seRving dish with the bits of cheese still inside melting into the sauce

Oh. My. God. grin

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 10:30:15

Just been shopping for pregnantpause and me... Didn't even need to go as far as the edgware road, the corner shop near me stocked freekeh, mograbieh and a ton of other random things I'd never heard of! Freekeh was relatively expensive (£3.79) but that was for a kilo (pp I will pm you but if you want to split the bag between us we could easily do that, if you want). Everything else was ridiculously cheap.... 89p for a large bag of sumac, £2.29 for 500g of za'atar (pp again we can split if you want although that one might be messy). I also randomly bought a falafel press for £1.99 ... Thus is particularly random as I don't even like falafel much but perhaps Ottolenghi or someone can convert be as my dd does! I am a sucker for gadgets...

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 10:31:10

Oh typos all over the place there, sorry, just keen to share my joy...

Thanks tiger. I'm happy to split the freekah, but if the zatar will be messy I'll take it all as I dont want to put you out anymore.

Have just made Nigels chickpea, harrisa and ham, with a lamb chop. it's nice, takes an hour though, so in my book does not count as salad as salad has to take less than an hour imo.

I read that back, I haven't done it justice. it is a lovely dish, which I will make again. Really delicious and complimented the lamb beautifully.

ELR Fri 03-May-13 13:39:29

Ok so the Coconut, semolina & Marmalade cakes are in the oven. The mixture is divine although not overly sweet but I guess the soaking syrup will take care of that! I would suggest halving the mixture as it makes two 500g loaf cakes. I started doing this but then added the full amount of marmalade so had to make the full recipe. Will report back when it's cooked. It's from Jerusalem by the way.

ELR Fri 03-May-13 14:50:08

Lemon ice cream in the freezer! Although a good amount of it was tested before it made it to the freezer!

kefybaby Fri 03-May-13 20:52:53

We just had the open kibbeh from Jerusalem for dinner (thanks for the recommendation hunn1e). It was lovely! DD2 is 2 months old and tends to have breastfeeding marathons in the evening so there was no time to make tabbouleh to accompany it but it was still lovely with a Greek salad. Tesco do not sell tumac (I will try sainsbury's next time, as suggested) so lemon jest had to do instead.

kneedeepindaisies Fri 03-May-13 21:07:23

I made the bolognese from KD's tonight.

It was very nice. DC said it tasted like one from the Italian restaurant which is high praise indeed smile

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 21:18:37

I did my Ottolenghi recipes tonight. As a main I had the chicken with caramelised onion and rice. I stuck fairly faithfully to the recipe (including jointing the chicken as per the challenge thread) but swapped brown basmati for white. Do not do this! It takes ages to cook! But it was very tasty. It does feel a bit though like a recipe that could be streamlined with practice (not the ingredients but rather the browning things and putting them to one side). Next time I will probably make the rice and barberries in the rice cooker, then the onion and chicken etc all in one pan, with a little bit of extra wine to compensate. However I would certainly make it again.

My other recipes were the chard with tahini / yoghurt sauce. It was quite nice but. .. it was still chard. I am not a fan. Very simple to make, pretty healthy ... I think I might make it with spinach leaves next time, but it's a personal preference. Then, purely because I had cucumbers on the veg box, I made the cucumber with yoghurt at the back of the book. This was the breakout hit of the evening and I couldn't be more surprised. I am really not keen on cucumber - I find it very insipid - but prepared in this way it was amazing, so fresh and cool-tasting and a real kick from the garlic and lemon. DH (who shares my views on cucumber) and I ate a portion that was nominally for four between us. I will definitely make it again,

ELR Fri 03-May-13 21:48:38

Reporting back on the KD lemon ice cream, it was truly delicious if a little expensive to make at least £5-£6 but was super easy and the kids loved it too. I only used the juice of 1.5 lemons instead of two as tasted it and it seemed right. Loads left to enjoy over the weekend too,

The semolina, coconut and marmalade cake is nice but I think will not be to everyone's tastes. It was easy to make and I really enjoyed it. I would say its more like a pudding and it def needs something sharp alongside it I had creme fraiche but the recipe suggests Greek yogurt. The kids did not like it maybe the slight bitter taste from the marmalade not sure. I would make it again but not for a while unless you could just make one slice!!
kneedeep that's good to know about the bolognese was thinking about giving it a whirl as bored of my tried and tested recipe!
tiger I have a bag of spinach which needs using so will maybe make the tahini and yogurt sauce thing.

Recipes for tomorrow are the turkey and courgette burgers with sumac and sour cream sauce from Jerusalem and the lemon and celery salad from the ottolenghi website and will make some sesame flat breads to go with them.

Cantdothisagain Fri 03-May-13 21:57:48

Hello, can I join in? I have both books; will need to go back to KD to remember what I have made/try out something new.

From Jerusalem, I've made the turkey burgers (lovely), the cauli/hazelnut salad (surprisingly delicious), the lamb schwarma (yum), and chicken with clementines and arak (divine), chicken with Jerusalem artichoke and lemon (liked it but find those artichokes tricky to digest), carrot salad (nice). No fails so far!

I am so excited by these threads!

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 22:05:15

cabtdothisagain the more the merrier. I liked the look of the chicken with arak and clementines but was unsure if it was worth buying a bottle of arak or Pernod for. You've just made my mind up; what do you normally use? I quite like a pastis when i am in France, is it the same sort of thing?

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 22:07:55

Elr rather than faff about with frying the chard in batches I microwaved it for two minutes first and then added it to a pan with garlic and wine. I found that worked fine and that's what I'd do for spinach as well (I love microwaving vegetables, tons easier i think).

Cantdothisagain Fri 03-May-13 22:08:36

I used Pastis and it was really good. The flavours sort of burst through. Preferred this to the Jerusalem artichoke one (but have slight issues with J artichokes).

Am tempted by the clementine cake....

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 22:10:55

cantdothisagain have googled and answered my own question - it is! So will get it and then can make the Ottolenghi recipe and can live the Nigel life drinking aperitifs in my small messy patio sumptuous garden.

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 22:11:28

X post. Will let you know how I get on!

Cantdothisagain Fri 03-May-13 22:14:53

It's lovely. Really lovely. Do marinate it as per the recipe though.

I want to try a fish dish next (as well as the clementine cake) - the cod fishcakes/fish kebabs. Any recommendations?

ELR Fri 03-May-13 22:15:28

tiger thanks for the tip. Just remembered a lovely recipe in the thomasina Miers book winter tacos with creamy greens I used chard in that and thought it was delish as like you not so keen on chard! Get a bottle of Perno!

ELR Fri 03-May-13 22:19:03

cantdo I fancy the prawns, scallops and clams with tomato and feta on pg 233 of Jerusalem or the monkfish kebabs with samphire and garlic mayo in the August section of KD.
Do make the cake it's nice but halve the recipe as it make two big loaf cakes.

Cantdothisagain Fri 03-May-13 22:21:57

Thanks ELR.

Off to browse KD again... Have got Jerusalem on my knee- how interesting that seafood recipe looks! Feta with seafood/tomatoes. Do report back...

ELR Fri 03-May-13 22:22:46

tiger if you aren't keen on cucumbers try slicing them very thin then sprinkle with salt and chopped dill truly Devine it will change your mind I promise wink

tigerlilygrr Fri 03-May-13 22:27:37

Bit off thread but the best fish / seafood dish EVER is the San Francisco red wine and fennel fish stew in kitchen by nigella. It is amazing. If you like fish and seafood you must try it!

Elr, I will try that (they're always in the veg box and normally I pickle th but it makes the kitchen smell awful!)

Cantdothisagain Fri 03-May-13 22:30:29

Thanks for the Nigella recommendation. I have that book too and will check it out.

WilsonFrickett Fri 03-May-13 23:53:34

I made the chicken with Jerusalem artichokes and lemon tonight but, em, couldn't find any Jerusalem artichokes blush so I used waxy baby tatties. It was lovely. Im sure it would be lovelier with artichokes but heigh-ho.

Has anyone tried the cauliflower and nut thing? I got a cauliflower in my veg box, DP is usually not keen at all but I was wondering if it was 'different' enough.

May I also make a humble suggestion that there's another thread for book choices? Had to wade through 8 pages and if I hadn't already signed into the thread I probably wouldn't have realised it was a cooking thread rather than a cook book thread. X

WilsonFrickett Fri 03-May-13 23:55:25

There's a cucumber, poppy seed And chillie thread in the firs Ottolenghi book that is fabby. Also my favourite Chinese restaurant serves cucumber with lots of garlic and salt, it weeps a bit on the plate but it's also lovely.

Cantdothisagain Sat 04-May-13 06:41:35

The cauliflower hazelnut salad is lovely, Wilson. Really good.

ZuleikaJambiere Sat 04-May-13 07:24:48

Cauliflower and hazelnut sounds interesting, and I have a cauliflower and hazelnuts in and waiting to be eaten. I've not yet tracked down a copy of Jerusalem, can anyone link to the recipe please? Or pm me? I can't see it on the website (but maybe being daft and overlooking it). Thanks

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 07:43:29

zj ta da!

wilson I know what you mean. I do quite like all the book chat though...

ELR Sat 04-May-13 08:20:32

tiger who do you get your veg box from? I never get cucumbers!! I use able and cole, have used river ford and organic 5 too but find Abel and cole to be better for other staples. Will try the fish stew with fennel one of my fave fish recipes is a Jamie oliver seafood and tomato soup it was in a magazine years ago, can't remember the exact recipe but I just make it every now and again changing bits here and there.
Also quite like the sound of the cauliflower and hazelnut will look it up.

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 08:30:56

Ocado because there's no commitment, you can just have a box when you feel like it. I am thinking of trying Abel and coke or riverford though for a change. It's always cucumbers round here! Although I have found a good recipe for cucumber pickle as a result!

sayanything Sat 04-May-13 08:32:22

I'm cooking for a crowd tonight and I'm making a version of this. Do you think the cauli/hazelnut salad would go?

ELR Sat 04-May-13 08:37:24

Say I don't see why not, maybe you could also do another salad on the side too something with fennel as that goes well with pork.
tiger will check out ocado's box as get my shopping from them although I remember it being about £25 I get the small fruit and veg box from Abel and cole and its £12.50 and 99p delivery. I swop out things I don't want and you can get it delivered every week, or fortnight or monthly and you can log your holiday dates too.

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 08:37:53

Oh god that looks delicious, yyy!

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 08:39:14

Ocado have changed their boxes slightly elr so have another look, although I get a savings pass discount and also I still don't think they're particularly cheap. I might look into Abel and cole then for a change.

sayanything Sat 04-May-13 08:44:02

Thanks! I'll do a standard green salad with vinaigrette as well. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow. Off for a massive shop then!

kefybaby Sat 04-May-13 11:50:54

ELR, did you use orange blossom water for the cake syrup? Where can I buy it? Would using orange jest do? I am very tempted to make this cake now although we have eaten too much cake lately and I have a million jobs to finish!

ELR Sat 04-May-13 11:55:22

Hi * kef* I didn't have any so just substituted a tbsp of orange juice, turned out fine.

ELR Sat 04-May-13 11:56:00

Also I used rapeseed oil instead of sunflower oil

kefybaby Sat 04-May-13 13:40:24

Thanks a lot, ELR! I've just run out of sunflower oil myself and have sent DP to the shops. Hopefully there won't be any more missing ingredients.

ELR Sat 04-May-13 14:16:46

kef me and DH have just had another piece with some creme fraiche really nice better the next day I think!

kefybaby Sat 04-May-13 18:17:49

The coconut, semolina and orange cake is now done and it is simply amazing! Even on day (hour!) one. Yum!

ooh, even I am tempted toward this cake, and I'm not a cake lady.

I have had my first fail today. I tried Nigels chicken, watercress and orange salad. with pumpkin seeds and almonds. It was awful. Disgusting, really. I couldn't eat it. the picture lured me in, against my better judgement that orange, chicken and mustard dressing do not go. Well, they dontsad

ELR Sat 04-May-13 19:17:31

Great, its lovely isnt it? I think it is def an aquired taste, i dont think everyone would like it. What do you think? I have had to take drastic action to save my waistline and have sliced one of the cakes and put it in the freezer!

Well im also reporting in on the turkey and courgette burgers with sour cream and sumac dip, wow wow wow!!!
Loved them I made some sesame flatbreads to go with them and also made the lemon and celery salad again, the whole thing was delicious?
I followed the recipe exactly accept I used yeo valley natural yogurt instead of sour cream and Greek yog. Also in the salad I used pitted kalamata olives instead of wrinkly black olives.

I have become obsessed with this thread and the Jerusalem book!! I am going to buy it as don't think I can live without it when I take it back to the library.

ELR Sat 04-May-13 19:20:44

pregnant well at least your fail has hopefully stopped anyone else making it!! Make the cake it is so nice.........

Pufflemum Sat 04-May-13 19:26:56

Can I join? I have neither book so will check out Amazon. I usually choose one cookery book a week and make myself cook all dinners from that do this way will be a nice change.

Pantah630 Sat 04-May-13 20:24:30

DS and I just had the mejadra with some griddled chicken, tasty marmonde tomatoes and homemade tzatziki. It was lovely and spicy and loads left for tea tomorrow when DH back home.

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 22:44:39

pufflemum you're very welcome! I like the idea is seven dinners from one book (that would sort the wheat from the chaff)

tigerlilygrr Sat 04-May-13 22:45:03

Idea of

I really should learn how to type.

Hunn1e Sun 05-May-13 09:06:07

I just realised that I have Kitchen Diaries II not the first book - so that's why I can't work out what anybody is on about.......durrrr! It would be rude in the circumstances not to buy the right one now wouldn't it?

From Jerusalem, I tried the charred okra with tomato garlic and preserved lemon last night except instead of lemon I used preserved clementines....really really good. He recommends it as a starter or side dish. I doubled the ingredients and pigged out on it as my supper. I seem to have to have at least one meat free night per week - not so bad if I've eaten fish in the main but if I've had a couple of days on red meat it seems to make me feel clogged up and in need of fruit and veg.

Slightly off topic other than that nearly every recipe I look at calls for it, lemon zest - does anybody know where I can buy it frozen in the UK?

tigerlilygrr Sun 05-May-13 16:59:14

I would also like to know about the lemon zest as I hate anything that requires grating etc... I've got a microplane grater, it is better, but it is still time consuming and not fun! Is that something you can get abroad or is it your brilliant idea hunn1e?

Xiaoxiong Sun 05-May-13 17:19:33

Just about to make the spiced pumpkin and bacon soup from kitchen diaries. It's actually for lunch tomorrow as DH and I don't have the bank holiday off so it will be a working lunch. Hoping like most soups/casseroles it improves overnight!

It's also a fast day (i think DH had a bit of a shock in the fitting room at H&M today, he came out and announced he wants to try the 5:2 intermittent fasting thing) I estimate it's 316 calories per portion, not too bad for something with 50g butter, 100ml cream and 4 rashers of streaky bacon.

kneedeepindaisies Sun 05-May-13 17:44:58

I'd be interested in frozen lemon zest/ orange zest, etc. I find it such hard work!

Xiaoxiong Sun 05-May-13 18:29:58

Hmm I used to hate zesting oranges but with my microplane it takes seconds and I don't mind at all now. Maybe one of those rasp type zest era would suit you better tiger? No solution beyond that I'm afraid - I can't imagine the essential oils in the zest would survive the freezing process so no idea if that would work.

Just made the pumpkin soup (Feb 20th) - gorgeous, even though I used half the butter and cream, onion squash instead of pumpkin, burned the onions a bit, and used ground spices rather than toasting and freshly grinding my own from whole. It's a resilient recipe!!

Right, I am back, still smarting from yesterdays failure.
However, today I have made kd orechette with roasted tomato and basil, and as a family we enjoyed it., the DC especially, it's a good way to get veg in mine, so I will make it again. Seconds were requested
. I would add a touch of sugar to the tomatoes as they were slightly bitter, but that could be just me as I am not a lover of tomato sauce. It was very simple, took 15_20 mins start to finish, which is perfect for me. Nigel is redeemed.grin

ELR Sun 05-May-13 20:14:39

Hi everyone, just reporting in on my cooking today! I made the Mejadra on pg120 it was good but not as good as the other things I have cooked. I would make it again at some time in the future
I also made the Swiss card, tahini and yogurt sauce with buttered pine nuts but swopped the chard for spinach as tiger suggested I enjoyed this and would make it again on a regular basis. Both those recipes were from Jerusalem. We followed this with some of the lemon ice cream from KD which we all really liked and would def make again but due to cost and calorie content prob just for special occasions.

WilsonFrickett Sun 05-May-13 21:39:54

Made the cauliflower and hazelnut salad from Jerusalem along with the chicken and cardamom again. Really good and DP even ate some cauliflower! (he'd been moaning about not liking cauliflower all weekend). I halved the rice as it was just the two of us, but there was still loads.

So rice and cauliflower for lunch tomorrow with a pita. Yum!

Hunn1e Sun 05-May-13 22:49:36

Tiger all my own idea I'm afraid - just seems that it would be so handy to be able to grab a spoonful of frozen zest rather than having to keep lemons all the time or oranges or limes etc. I did some Googling on it and found that you can get it in the States and there is a company in the West Country who seem to do it but they are a business supplier so you don't seem to be able to order directly from their website - think I may have to give them a call on Tuesday to find out though and will report back.

The zest definitely freezes well - if I am using fresh lemon juice in a recipe in which I'm not using the zest, I zest the lemon before juicing and freeze it - but I would love to have a big tub of the stuff to use when needed!

karmakameleon Sun 05-May-13 22:55:19

Well, I've had a quiet week on the cooking front but will try to get back on track.

I kicked off tonight with the stuffed aubergine in Jerusalem which I was really pleased with. DH was keen too and he can usually take it or leave where aubergines are concerned. I made the cucumber and yoghurt to go with it and that went down well too.

And finally Nigel's demerara sugar and lemon cake is in the oven. Will report back on that tomorrow...

ZuleikaJambiere Mon 06-May-13 07:39:05

I'll be doing my first recipe from Jerusalem tonight - the cauliflower and hazelnut salad. But I couldn't get a pomegranate in the greengrocers. Those who have made it already, should I substitute some other fruit in there? Or will it be fine without?

Morning, everyone, made my first dish from Jerusalem last night: pan-fried sea bream with Harissa and rose [page 219] - except that, er, I didn't actually use sea bream blush (does that mean I failed at the first fence?) I used tilapia fillets as that's what I had in the freezer. Otherwise, I pretty much followed the recipe as written. I didn't dust the fillets with flour before frying them - it just didn't seem necessary, but might try it that way next time - and didn't use coriander at the end (recipe did say it was optional). DH and I thought it was delicious and I'll definitely do it again. Not sure what recipe to try next. The salmon steaks in chraimeh sauce [page 234] look good - has anybody else tried them?

kneedeepindaisies Mon 06-May-13 18:57:29

I've made the pear and blueberry cake from KD. It's very liquidy but tastes nice with Creme fraiche smile

Kiriwawa Mon 06-May-13 20:05:18

I wonder if Waitrose do frozen zest? They seem to do frozen everything else smile

I made the stuffed aubergines last night - they were very tasty indeed although I halved the ingredients and just did them for 2 so I needed to add a little more water to the mix in the bottom of the pan. Had them with couscous and there wasn't a morsel left over!

karmakameleon Mon 06-May-13 20:32:29

Kiri stuffed aubergines really are good aren't they? I also halved the recipe but found it a nightmare with quarter of a tbs of this and a half tsp of that! Next time I'll just make the full recipe and freeze half.

I made a couple of salads from Jerusalem today. The spinach and medjool date one and the roasted butternut squash and red onion with tahini. They were both gorgeous. Between the three recipes I've tried so far and total success with all of them, I think I'm going to have to buy the book. It would be wrong not too.

On the other hand the lemon cake was less of a hit. An acceptable cake but not lemony enough for my liking. I think I'll just have keep hunting for the perfect lemon cake recipe.

WilsonFrickett Mon 06-May-13 20:56:59

I have to say with all ottolenghi recipes I don't follow the amounts to the letter. When I half a recipe I usually only half the main ingredients and use modern or less the full amount of flavourings.

Zulieka prob too late but I just left the pomegranate out.

Pantah630 Tue 07-May-13 07:31:08

mostpeople not tried any of the fish recipes yet, was it hot with the harissa? Not a fan of burning hot, wondering whether I should halve the amount.
kiri and karma stuffed aubergine s on my list to try now.

I've a shwarma marinating in the fridge, if it tastes as good as the marinade smells, we're in for a treat later smile

Pantah630 Tue 07-May-13 07:34:50

Must say I've already cooked my two dishes from Jerusalem, now on my third and planning more. I've yet to let KD get a look in blush
Am very tempted to buy the hardback version even though I have it on kindle am so impressed with it. Must resist....

Never seen lemon zest in Waitrose kiri but if we bombard customer service with emails, pretty sure they'd source some smile

Pufflemum Tue 07-May-13 07:36:30

I can't wait for my books to arrive today now! You have all really motivated to get cooking. Come on Postman.

ZuleikaJambiere Tue 07-May-13 08:23:09

I made my first recipe last night - the cauliflower and hazelnut salad from Jerusalem (sans pomegranate), which we had with houmous topped lamb chops, lentil salad and fresh asparagus. It was tasty and we ate it all up, but not 'I must make it again tomorrow' amazing. But we've recently found a stunning cauliflower and caper salad recipe that we love (and is v quick and easy as its raw rather than roasted), so it had stiff competition. We ate outside, which I love doing, so it was a very enjoyable tea

Hi Pantah, it seemed quite hot to me, but I wouldn't describe it as burning hot. But I think you could halve the amount of harissa without spoiling the flavour of the dish - and you could always add some at the end if you decided it was a little too mild after all. Hope you give the recipe a go - I thought it was delicious smile

maniacbug Tue 07-May-13 13:38:39

Hello all... another cookbook addict/recipe collector/kitchen experimenter here, please can I join too? I discovered your April thread last week on a 5:2 fast day and tortured myself by reading it from start to finish! Great idea tigerlily, truly inspiring threads. This is the sort of thing I resolve to do every time I guiltily contemplate my growing collection of cookbooks. I have been using KD for years but only realised as I went through it that I stick to the same handful of beloved recipes, and got Jerusalem for Christmas but am ashamed to say haven't used it yet - or should I say hadn't - until last weekend, thanks to you lot!! Made the cod cakes in tomato sauce, which were amazingly delicious and went down well with all three DCs, one of whom claims to have 'gone off fish'. I anticipated a protest re. 'green bits' from the 3-yd-old, but he ate the lot. Followed the recipe to the letter, for a change, and was happy with it - though might use 1tsp rather than 2tsp sugar for the sauce next time and would add another chilli.

I have the preserved lemons marinating, which I am trying to resist the urge to prod... Next to try on the basis of recommendations above are cauli/hazelnut salad, stuffed aubergine with lamb + pine nuts, and turkey + courgette burgers. Also v. tempted by the shwarma, please post results Pantah!
Has anyone made the maqluba? Although I hadn't used Jerusalem before, DH made this a few weeks ago and after all the effort was a bit disappointed, though we all ate it up and sort of enjoyed it.

From KD I my all-time favourite is the pumpkin + tomato laksa, followed closely by the crab salad, the Vietnamese beef salad, the velvety soup (really simple, but a revelation to me how creamy a soup can be without any milk or cream actually in it) and the pork + lemon polpettine. Haven't quite decided which new ones to try yet but am now tempted by the courgette + Lancashire crumble, which I have never considered before.

I agree with whoever said that if you like the Ottolenghi books you might like Claudia Roden's Arabesque. Also second (third?) the suggestion for Dan Lepard baking book. Also excited about ordering Thomasina Miers, which I have been meaning to for a while. Also.... need to calm down and go and do some work!
Hope it's OK to join in so late...

glorious Tue 07-May-13 13:52:36

Off to the shops to stock up for this week's recipes. I'm going to do the chicken with cardamon and the tahini cookies from Jerusalem. From KD I'm planning the goat's cheese puddings and possibly the marmalade cake, haven't decided on that.

tigerlily you don't need to commit to regular deliveries with riverford, you can just order online when you like. They're just about to overhaul the website too so you can ask for things you don't like to be substituted (though we hardly get any cucumbers smile )

WilsonFrickett Tue 07-May-13 14:00:55

The shwarma is amazing maniac and worth the price of the book alone. I've made it twice now. It's brilliant for entertaining too as it's all done ahead of time, all you have to do is heat some pitta up when folk sit down.

karmakameleon Tue 07-May-13 14:03:05

Wilson normally I'm just the same as you and happy to chop and change recipes, especially if I don't have all the ingredients to hand, but I find with ottolenghi recipes it's worth doing it just as prescribed. All his extra little touches really do add something to the finished dish. I'm so glad I went out to get the tamarind paste specially as it definitely added a lovely sweet and sour background note.

karmakameleon Tue 07-May-13 14:05:45

glourios. Do you know when riverford are likely to make the changes? I love my riverford veg box but am so sick of mushrooms. I don't mind them every once in a while but they seem to turn up every week.

ScienceRocks Tue 07-May-13 14:26:35

Karma, why don't you swap your riverford box for another one? Used to do this each week to combat vegetable gluts and to make menu planning a little easier.

kneedeepindaisies Tue 07-May-13 14:44:59

My Jerusalem is in transit according to the library website. Excited.

I'm really loving KD's so thank you whoever suggested it smile

Xiaoxiong Tue 07-May-13 14:52:38

karma if we do Dan Lepard's Short & Sweet soon, there's an incredible lemon poppyseed cake in there (the recipe is floating around online if you want to try it out!)

Another KD lunch here - roasted beetroot & goat's cheese (May 30th), a bacon & avocado salad (June 6th) and fresh bread (Dan Lepard!)

It feels like we've come through spring and gone straight on into summer - everything from the May, June and July chapters are calling to me today.

glorious Tue 07-May-13 15:34:12

Not sure karma sorry. We're sick of mushrooms too as DH doesn't like them so I have to eat them for lunch. So hopefully soon!

karmakameleon Tue 07-May-13 15:34:26

Science I do check every week to see if there is a box which avoids mushrooms but some weeks they all have them in! Even DH asked if we could get them to stop sending them and he actually likes them or he did till riverford made him overdose.

Xiaoxiong I'll look up that Dan Lepard cake. I hope we do his book soon as there's so much I want to try in there!

kneedeepindaisies Tue 07-May-13 15:45:28

Xiao- I agree. The summer months are really inspiring.

sayanything Tue 07-May-13 18:57:12

Another vote for the cauli/hazelnut salad here, it was absolutely delicious (it really helped that the pomegranate I used was the ripest, juiciest one I've ever had).
My copy of Jerusalem arrived today but I stupidly left it at work. Do we have a [D'oh] emoticon?

Pantah630 Tue 07-May-13 21:33:52

The shwarma is delicious, we had it with rosemary roast new pots and steamed green veg tonight. Tomorrow it'll be going in pitta bread with tzatziki an salad. Will definitely be making this again, it was worth it just for the smell of the initial marinade grin

maniacbug Tue 07-May-13 21:42:15

<adds shwarma to list>
Hmm. I have just checked ingredients for cauli/hazelnut salad and my heart sank when I saw maple syrup listed, even though it's only a small amount. I really cannot bear the smell or taste of it. Those who've tried the salad already, does the maple syrup mingle and get lost amongst the other ingredients, or does it still come through? Do you think it would work if I substituted runny honey or agave syrup, or something else?

tigerlilygrr Tue 07-May-13 21:43:32

Ok I have broken already and ordered the ingredients for Nigel's brownies following the rave reviews... This will be my only lapse in no bake May!

tigerlilygrr Tue 07-May-13 21:45:29

Hi maniacbug! I reckon you can always swap agave for maple syrup. But perhaps someone who has tried the recipe is better placed to advise!

ELR Tue 07-May-13 21:52:50

tiger got my Abel and cole box yesterday and also three vouchers to give to friends for a free box, do you want a code if so I will pm you.

glorious Tue 07-May-13 21:56:24

Mmm the tahini cookies are amazing! The dough is very crumbly though. They remind me of Dan Lepard's tahini flapjacks which are also yummy. I really enjoyed the chicken with cardamom and onion too, very tasty for something so easy. And DD let me cook and eat both, hooray! (she's 13 weeks so it's been a while).

tigerlilygrr Tue 07-May-13 22:02:20

Ooh elr yes please that would be fab!

Pantah630 Tue 07-May-13 22:31:10

I will not break, I will not break......though cookies and brownies sound delicious.

Pantah630 Tue 07-May-13 22:32:51

I did break regarding cookbooks though, and got the original Ottelenghi cookbook on Kindle. There's even more fabulous recipes in there, I've bookmarked lots already.

ScienceRocks Tue 07-May-13 23:39:25

I made the courgettes with lemon and basil from kitchen diaries tonight. Delicious with sea bass and potatoes. The recipe is in August, I think.

Later this week I am planning to do the chicken with vermouth ash cream.

ScienceRocks Tue 07-May-13 23:40:00

Elr, if you have a spare Abel and cole voucher, I'd love it! Pretty please... thanks

Hunn1e Wed 08-May-13 06:57:19

maniacbug if you don't want it quite so sweet as maple syrup you could try pomegranate molasses (even Sainsburys do them now).

On the subject of pomegranate molasses - I used it drizzled over pigs in blankets at Christmas and everyone went mad for it.

I saw that somebody mentioned tamarind paste earlier - if you can't get it, use Worcestershire Sauce instead, very similar taste or WS mixed with a tiny bit of Marmite even closer.

DH and DD have upset tummies this week after restaurant at the weekend so I'm chomping at the bit for them to get better so I can get cooking again. The Nigel Slater first book still hasn't turned up so I guess it'll be Jerusalem again - oh dear, what a shame!

Tried two recipes yesterday, one from each book. For lunch I had Jerusalemite aubergine with crispy onion and lemon sauce. It was nice, light and felt good for me, but I won't rush to try it again. That said, I am not an aubergine fan, I thought the onion and feta topping delicious, but the aubergine only so so.

For the family I made Nigel pumpkin dhal- not fitting to the sunshine but DC wanted soup. I adapted to the slow cooker, and the smell was very nice through the house by evening. DC had it without the onion and chilli topping and both loved it. Dh and I both thought it could do with salt and cumin, the topping is essential IMO. Makes it a bit different and more of a meal iykwim.

ELR Wed 08-May-13 09:19:59

Hi tiger and science will pm you both later with a code the only catch was that you weren't already customers so should be fine.
pregnant I make that soup alot, well tats not true i make my version of it and add his topping! I nearly always use butternut squash and always use stock not water I often toast cumin seeds and then ground and add them usually always add a touch of chilli powder too.
Today I'm making the chicken alfreto or something like that can't remember as not got the book to hand it's basically roast chicken with potato and spices.

maniacbug Wed 08-May-13 10:48:50

Thanks, Hunn1e, great suggestion - I'm sure I have a bottle of pomegranate molasses lurking somewhere...

ELR Wed 08-May-13 14:35:20

It's actually chicken sofrito I'm asking and it smells amazing! Page 190 in Jerusalem

elr the Sofrito is amazing - my favourite from Jerusalem so far. I have to be honest I'm struggling to be inspired by KD so far but I'll find something. I made the Hazlenut & Cauli salad last night for the second time and really liked it again. In the spirit of the thread I am going to cook something from Jerusalem I haven't tried yet and I think its going to be the Tahini Cookies. I haven't done any pastry or pudding from it yet so I'll give it a go.

Those of you who have Abel & Cole - are they worth the money? I used to have a Riverford box delivered but found the quality was no better than my local market so I gave up on it.

glorious Wed 08-May-13 15:00:09

Enjoy the cookies English. Don't panic if the dough is very crumbly, just keep working it.

ELR Wed 08-May-13 15:57:57

english if you are in London and don't already gave an Abel and cole account I have one more voucher left for a free box. Also what did you eat with the sofrito?
I would recommend the lemon ice cream in KD.

Not in London but thanks for the offer. There's a farm nearby that has started a box scheme I might give them a try first. I just did steamed spinach with the Sofrito - I think it needs something quite leafy and iron rich.

Is the lemon ice cream quite tart? I prefer tart ice cream to anything super sweet.

ScienceRocks Wed 08-May-13 16:20:01

Slightly off topic, but I made the muscavado banana cake from KD2 today (for the second time). It is sensational, even with reduced bananas (he says a stonking 400g which is a huge number of bananas - I use 4) and half nuts and chocolate instead of all chocolate.

ELR Wed 08-May-13 16:20:34

Yes it's lovely and tart! Was thinking the same, i am doing the kids broccoli and maybe courgettes with lemon for me and DH.

ScienceRocks Wed 08-May-13 16:23:11

Slightly off topic, but I made the muscavado banana cake from KD2 today (for the second time). It is sensational, even with reduced bananas (he says a stonking 400g which is a huge number of bananas - I use 4) and half nuts and chocolate instead of all chocolate.

contortionist Wed 08-May-13 19:38:52

I'm finally doing my first recipe today, starting gently with the cauliflower and hazelnut salad from Jerusalem. I'm not sure I roasted the cauliflower enough - it was brown, but not particularly crispy. Still very delicious though! And DD1 had great fun extracting the seeds from the pomegranate.

kneedeepindaisies Wed 08-May-13 20:26:47

My Jerusalem still hasn't arrived hmm but I cooked a pork dish from Loraine Pascale's Fast, Fresh and Easy Food and it was yummy.

Can we put that book on the list for a future month?

tigerlilygrr Wed 08-May-13 20:32:20

Yyy I love Lorraine Pascale and I think that's the best of her books!

tigerlilygrr Wed 08-May-13 20:33:31

Ps elr have pm-ed you but thanks so much for the code!

greensnail Wed 08-May-13 21:30:31

Hello everyone. I finally got around to starting the May recipes yesterday and made homous and falafels from Jerusalem.

I wasn't too sure about the houmous to start with, it seemed a little strange not to use any oil but the texture of it was really nice. I think I would probably use a little less tahini next time, but overall it was good and going down especially well with 4 year old dd1.

I had a bit of trouble with the falafel, they tasted delicious but disintegrated a bit when I was frying them. I suspect I didn't have the oil hot enough so will have to try again some time and see if I can do any better.

Next on the list is chicken with tarragon from kitchen diaries. Probably won't get to do it until the weekend though. It occurred to me it is fairly similar to the creamed chicken I did last month from Feast so will be interesting to see how it compares.

greensnail Wed 08-May-13 22:13:32

On the subject of veg boxes, has anyone tried a meat box from Riverford? We are fairly local to Riverford and have bought stuff from their farm shop before but never had boxes from them, am tempted by the idea of a meat and veg box though.

ScienceRocks Wed 08-May-13 22:15:32

I've had meat boxes from riverford in the past. They are very good.

greensnail Wed 08-May-13 22:21:11

Thanks Sciencerocks, I'll give it a go I think!

maniacbug Wed 08-May-13 22:27:08

I can vouch for the Riverford meat boxes too, greensnail. Have you been to their Field Kitchen? Mmmm... We're same county but a bit too far to justify the trip as often as I'd like.

karmakameleon Wed 08-May-13 22:27:15

I'm another happy riverford meat and veg box customer. Don't get the meat too often as I don't like to eat too much but when we have done it's been good quality.

Hunn1e Wed 08-May-13 23:09:20

KD I finally arrived so I had to try the lemon ice cream - very simple but very good - think the limoncello drizzle I put with it worked quite nicely too!

And because I was then on a lemon thing, I had to pop out and get some set lemon yoghurt - for those of you who can source it, La Fermiere yoghurts are absolutely to die for and they come in really cute little blue terra cotta pots which I can't throw away!

Spent the rest of the day trying to design my website then DD got home and spent 5 minutes on it and managed to work out all the stuff it had taken me hours to try to sort out.....I guess I should really be grateful!

XBenedict Thu 09-May-13 10:08:45

Another happy Riverford customer here. I buy a veg and a fruit box once a fortnight - lovely!

We're having May 7th tonight - lamb with lemon and mint and potatoes crushed into the pan juices! Will report back later smile

Anyone got a simple delicious cookie recipe? Bought a glass cookie jar yesterday and I need to fill it!

Poledra Thu 09-May-13 10:47:04

I get Riverford veg boxes - don't buy the meat as I have a very good local butcher and also, they deliver during my working day and next door's dog would probably have most of the meat before I got home! I love the veg boxes; the produce is fresh and keeps very well, and the few times I have had complaints (once or twice in 5 years), they've been dealt with to my satisfaction.

DD3 is delighted because there's asparagus coming in this week's box grin

ScienceRocks Thu 09-May-13 11:00:40

Xbenedict, the cranberry and white chocolopate cookies from Feast (last month's cookbook) are fabulous.

ELR Thu 09-May-13 11:23:09

I agree on cookies from feast

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 12:27:25

Been looking through KD this morning for ideas. Has anyone tried the chicken with mustard seed and coconut milk, the pork & lemon polpettine and the salmon & dill fish cakes? They're what are shouting out to me at the moment, although I'm not too keen on hot so will scale down the chillies in the curry. Must remember to stop at the spice shop on the way home.

Xiaoxiong Thu 09-May-13 12:43:23

maniacbug upthread said that the polpettine were in her all-time KD favourites rotation!

I've made something very similar to the chicken with mustard seed and coconut milk before, so I bet that would be lovely too.

maniacbug Thu 09-May-13 12:43:35

Pantah the polpettine are very, very good! Really strong flavours. They do go well with plain tagliatelle (aka 'slithery noodles'), as he suggests.
Did the chicken with mustard seed a while ago for DCs, leaving out all the chillis and not adding any salt, and it was still aromatic and delicious.

Xiaoxiong Thu 09-May-13 12:44:16

greensnail we get a mini veg+fruit+meat box once a week, plus a salad bag. It works perfectly for us and the quality is excellent - the veg lasts and lasts and really shows up the supermarket stuff we buy (even Waitrose).

As far as what you get in the meat box, we get three portions of meat that are just right for me and DH to have in an evening - usually a pack of minced beef or pork (350g ish), a pack of something quick cooking (eg. pork steaks, beef frying steak, sausages, cubes of lamb leg), and a mini-joint of beef, pork or lamb of about 600g. We try not to eat any more meat than this over the week.

maniacbug Thu 09-May-13 12:46:02

x-post with Xiao!
Does anyone ever manage to find curry leaves, by the way? Can you grow them at home?

Xiaoxiong Thu 09-May-13 13:02:03

maniac don't know about grow your own curry leaves but our local Tesco here sells frozen ones and I would think any Asian grocery should do. They do make a big difference to the flavour but leaving them out of a recipe won't ruin it, it will just have a different taste iyswim.

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 13:14:20

Thanks for recommendations guys, will try both. We have a couple of Asian grocers so hopefully they'll have the curry leaves. I have a job lot of chicken thighs at home and some tins of coconut milk that's been in the cupboard for ages.
There is an excellent butcher next door to me at work so pork mince for the weekend sorted too smile
A fellow scout leader use to make white chocolate and cranberry biscuits with edible glitter, I wonder if its the same recipe. Will have a look, they were delicious and a must if you want visually appealing biscuits for a clear jar. Doubt they'll be in there long though.

Pufflemum Thu 09-May-13 13:51:40

I've made my first Jerusalem recipe and it was delicious, the shakshuka. What a fab find as I try not to eat processed carbs so eat a lot of eggs, this recipe will be added to one of my lunchtime favourites. Plan to have the pan fried sea bream tonight - maybe an overload on Harissa, but does look very appealing.

I also have a Riverford meat and veg box. I get a large meat box fortnightly, the quality is fantastic and has converted my very fussy son to now eating lamb and pork.

ELR Thu 09-May-13 16:16:06

Makes 35
300g self-raising flour
30g cocoa powder
250g unsalted butter (room temperature)
125g caster sugar

Preheat the oven to 170C.
Sieve the flour and cocoa powder and set it aside.
Cream the butter and sugar till light and pale in colour. (I did this in a food processor and then just added the flour and cocoa, it forms a dough itself after a little mixing)
Mix in flour mixture, it might look like it needs liquid, but keep working the ingredients in and it will form a dough.
Roll into walnut-sized balls and arrange these on the baking sheets.
Flatten these balls with the back of the fork.
Bake for 5 mins at 170C and then turn the temperature down to 150C for a further
10 -15mins.
The biscuits should feel firm on top although not hard. Remove from the oven and transfer to cool on wire rack, before storing in air-tight container.

ELR Thu 09-May-13 16:16:46

Sorry supposed to say easy chocolate cookies great to make with kids.

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 16:59:00

maniac our apprentice went up to the bank earlier so to him to call into the spice shop. Apparently the guy went out the back and picked the curry leaves (clipped off a bush by the looks) so yes you probably can grow them at home. Unless he's just picked them off any old bush out the back and they're not curry leaves. They smell kind of musty when you squeeze them and look like smaller bay leaves. For those that have encountered before, is that correct? confused

tigerlilygrr Thu 09-May-13 17:08:35

pantah that's what the ones you can buy freeze dried look like. I have a little herb collection on my patio, might try growing curry leaves! Btw in later months I am going to suggest the reza Mahammad curry book (can't remember the exact name but it is fabulous) and every single recipe seems to ask for curry leaves...

tigerlilygrr Thu 09-May-13 17:08:50

Ps love the sound of a spice shop!

akarucker Thu 09-May-13 17:35:28

So I ordered KD from the library, in the hopes that it would get here soon and I could join in your thread. It just arrived, so can I jump in? (The nice 5:2 fasters referred me over here, picking up on my food obsessions).

At first glance at KD, there seem to be loads I want to make, but what a lot of waffle he adds in. It'll make for a good night time read, but takes a while to get to the actual recipe!! Too much chit chat and blib blab...

I have everything for the Dal & pumpkin soup on 1st Jan. Well,I have a can of pumpkin purée, that'll do won't it? Oh, and I don't have groundnut oil - what can I substitute? Ok, so I don't have everything for the soup - that was a lie! But today is cold & windy so I might try it anyway.

tigerlilygrr Thu 09-May-13 18:21:16

Hi akarucker jump right in. Totally agree re KD chat...

karmakameleon Thu 09-May-13 18:34:23

My mum used to grow curry leaves when we were kids. It was in the olden days when it was difficult to get hold of fresh Indian ingredients. The plants need lots of sun and warmth so a south facing window is best. If I remember correctly she didn't have the best of luck with it and gave up. She just used frozen ones in the end.

Btw tiger I gave in last night and ordered Prashad. Have had my eye on it so long, thought I may as well go for it.

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 18:50:13

Curry is on the stove. The shop is about half a mile from the sea, south facing and on the south coast so despite this springs weather, we do normally get a better go of it than most of the country. It doesn't smell like curry though, despite following the recipe slavishly. When its finished cooking I'm going to turn it off, leave it for an hour and reheat. Hope it tastes ok, am a bit dubious at the moment.

tigerlilygrr Thu 09-May-13 18:57:33

Karma let me know how you get on with prashad. I think it's the kind of book that needs a bit of planning in terms of getting ingredients etc. but iirc last year when it came out it was on lots of cookery writers' top ten end of year round up type lists, so I have high hopes. Although have been totally distracted by this thread so still haven't cooked anything from it!

ScienceRocks Thu 09-May-13 19:35:20

Akarucker, use any unflavoured oil instead of groundnut. Sunflower is good, so is mild normal olive oil (none of your virginal stuff).

Unrelated, but I have decided to give sourdough a try. Bought my organic apples and a cheap bag of flour, now impatiently waiting for my kilner jar to arrive so I can get the starter, um, started! I've also ordered some proving baskets, which will take a bit longer but as the starter takes a while, that shouldn't be a problem.

Very proud of myself for resisting a new cookbook yesterday. I have had my eye on Bread by Paul Hollywood, but my concerns that it will duplicate too much of How To Bake have won through. Also, while I love his bread recipes, I'm not sure about all the other stuff he does (baking is his thing, not making soups and the like) so rationale, for once, won!

maniacbug Thu 09-May-13 19:51:04

Pantah we are about half a mile from the sea, south facing + on the south coast too, but sadly not remotely near a spice shop! Still, found a couple of online suppliers of curry leaf plants so might as well order a couple and give it a try. (Will also try Tesco for frozen, thanks for tip Xiao!)

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 20:34:00

manic if you're anywhere near the doomed pretend reef you

Pantah630 Thu 09-May-13 20:34:18

..are smile

kefybaby Thu 09-May-13 21:20:41

Lamb shawarma is marinating nicely in the fridge. Going on the smell of all the spices and herbs I have high hopes for tomorrow's dinner!
I succumbed to temptation and bought Jerusalem (up to now I was cooking off recipes on the Internet). It had been sitting in my amazon basket for days but it definitely deserves a place on the shelf ( or worktop).
I have not made any KD recipes yet. I might try the sea bream one. Any other fish ones you would recommend? I do not have a fish steamer. Is the cucumber sea bass one not doable in another way?

Hunn1e Thu 09-May-13 21:59:45

kefybaby I haven't looked at the recipe so this may not work in this instance but I have steamed fish over a frying pan and splatter guard with tin foil over the top quite successfully in the past when a steamer wasn't available.

greensnail Thu 09-May-13 23:09:13

maniac No I've never been to the field kitchen but would love to, it looks yummy! I wonder if there's any more of us down this way, we could maybe have a field kitchen meet up to rival the swanky London one wink

kefybaby Fri 10-May-13 04:56:17

That's very creative, Hunn1e!

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 07:34:48

greensnail Riverford are in Devon yes? I'm the next county over and more than happy to ride down there grin

Surprisingly, after the odd smell, the curry was very tasty. I must admit I did pick out at least half of the curry leaves before eating. When I make it again I may slip them in a bit of muslin a la bouquet garni. I had major success with the rice this time as well. Having rinsed and put in a saucepan with water about 20mm above it, I left it sat like that for an hour while picking up some furniture for DS1s new houseshare. Then I brought to the boil, turned it off, put a tea towel over, then clamped the lid on and left for 15 mins. The best rice, without cardamon, I've done and so easy.

kneedeepindaisies Fri 10-May-13 08:13:27

Oooh Pantah I'm not far from the pretend reef! I live in the next town.

Was it you that asked about salmon and dill fish cakes from KD? I'm attempting them tonight so will report back.

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 08:24:43

kneedeep you might be in my town too then, I work in Boscombe but live in the nearest small town with two rivers, lovely beach huts and a harbour ;)

Yes please report back on the fish cakes, fancy tring them next week. I'm going to get some pork mince and make the polpettine later.

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 08:30:32

If we did a Field Kitchen meet up I can bring spices and barberries smile

kneedeepindaisies Fri 10-May-13 08:33:17

We live in the same town grin

I'm going to be dropping Jerusalem and Guinness cake into all my conversations today to see if I get a glint of recognition wink

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 10:05:47

Am at work all day today so I get the food festival off grin

XBenedict Fri 10-May-13 10:07:49

Thanks for the cookie recipes will be making some shortly! I can recommend the lemon and mint lamb we had last night. Very easy to,do, great flavour, DH loved it.

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 10:13:52

I'll apologise now kneedeep I have Madhur's Curry Bible ordered and will pick it up Monday when library reopens, pretty sure there was only one copy available on Dorset Library Service. I'll try and not keep it too long and let you know when I return it grin

maniacbug Fri 10-May-13 10:23:34

Pantah and kneedeep I am further west, but will be driving past you later this morning on my way to a long-awaited + much-needed girls' weekend in the New Forest. (Dinner at The Pig, can't wait!) So no Jerusalem/KD for me until next week. Happy cooking, everyone!

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 10:38:47

Very jealous maniac can you give us a review, might make a nice change from The Jetty for special occasions. Enjoy your weekend, if you get a free couple of hours Christchurch Food Market this weekend, from 10am both days, lots and lots of lovely food from around the world and demonstrations as well, always a good day out despite the number of people.

ELR Fri 10-May-13 12:06:33

Hi everyone I've got the Chermoula aubergine in the oven for my lunch it smells lovely. Going to ave a look at the pork poulpetine as everyone seems to recommend it.

kneedeepindaisies Fri 10-May-13 12:42:42

I'm jealous too Maniac. I keep dropping hints about The Pig so please let us know how it is.

You're more organised than me Pantah. I'm still waiting for the library to tell me Jerusalem has arrived!

MyLifeIsStillChaotic Fri 10-May-13 13:20:19

Hi all smile Hope it's ok to jump in at this late stage?

I just posted on the 'who is with me' thread about my difficulty with getting hold of recipe books but thought I would give a quick review of the two dishes I have made out of Jerusalem.

I made mejadra last night. It was tasty and very easy to eat. It was the first time I've used brown lentils (shamefully) and I liked them. I did feel the cinnamon overpowered the dish somewhat, but then I am not a huge cinnamon fan - I would reduce the amount next time, or maybe even omit it. I ate the mejadra as a main meal and didn't serve it with anything but it probably would have made a good side dish.

The second thing I've just made/eaten is the shakshuka. I've made Hugh F-W's version before from his Everyday Veg book and this was just as fact I think I preferred it. I didn't have harissa so added a chopped red chilli instead. I have a cold and it was as near to the perfect lunch as I could have hoped for smile

akarucker Fri 10-May-13 14:30:45

Having drooled and dribbled over KD for two days, I made my first recipe! The pumpkin & dahl soup on 1st Jan. I had a tin of pumpkin so i used that instead of boiling my own. It was delicious!

Hunn1e Fri 10-May-13 15:10:24

heard back from the frozen zest people - minimum order is 5KG! So that's not really going to work unless I can find say 10 other like-minded cooks in the Kent/East Sussex borders area who want to come in on an order with me?!

Hunn1e Fri 10-May-13 15:11:31

Where did you get the tinned pumpkin akarucker?

Hunn1e Fri 10-May-13 15:21:26

Sorry to go off topic but I need some help - I'm just putting the finishing touches to my own cookery book - it's about hiding veg in foods fussy kids will eat. Would anybody on here be interested in testing out a few recipes for me to see if I can be understood easily enough!

ELR Fri 10-May-13 16:42:57

Hunn1e I would test some for you with my own kids. Funnilyenough I am doing something similar. I run my own business doing cooking classes for kids and am currently working on a book too! But it's not for fussy eaters. Who's your publisher?

First recipe tried. KD Tarragon chicken. Was lovely. Made it with boneless chicken thighs and single cream. Also didn't have tarragon vinegar - and ocado didn't have any - shock horror! - so used some white wine vinegar instead. I served it with rice and some steamed asparagus. It was v quick and easy after a long day with DTs! Will defo make it again when I'm in the mood for something herby.

Oh and my in lass live in B too!

glorious Fri 10-May-13 16:55:42

Happy to test hunn1e though DD is only 14 weeks so it's just adults here. Jealous of all you West Country folk, my family's from Dorset and I grew up mostly in Bristol but I'm in London now. Bit horrified that DD is a londoner actually (no offence to londoners, just not my identity iyswim)

Pantah630 Fri 10-May-13 17:22:44

free I liked the look of the tarragon chicken but don't have tarragon vinegar either, nice to know its good with white wine vinegar. Will give it a go next week.
hunn1e I would love to help but both my DS's are far from fussy, except DS1 abhors mushrooms, and far too grown up now or think they are

akarucker Fri 10-May-13 17:34:23

Hunn1e I think I got the puréed pumpkin from Waitrose. But, it was around Xmas time, when they get all their American holiday stuff in. They may have it year round though. It's great, as it's just pumpkin, nothing added.

kneedeepindaisies Fri 10-May-13 17:57:52

Hunn1e I'll test drive the recipes, no probs with DS1 but DS2 is a nightmare with vegetables at the moment hmm

What is your book about ELR?

kneedeepindaisies Fri 10-May-13 18:04:14

Pantah I made the fishcakes. I think they need more dill and more of a kick generally. Maybe more mustard?

DH and DS1 said they're really nice though so maybe its just me.

ScienceRocks Fri 10-May-13 18:31:52

Free, I am doing the tarragon and vermouth chicken tonight. I figured wine vinegar was fine and am serving it with brown rice and green beans.

To follow will be the pistachio and lemon cake on the next page! The smells as it was cooking were amazing, I have high hopes smile

kefybaby Fri 10-May-13 21:18:39

Lamb shawarma was very tasty! We had it with pita bread and the barley and feta cheese salad (which was also very flavoursome). I am officially a fan of Jerusalem!
Hunn1e, I would also be happy to try your recipes. DD1 is 3 and not particularly fussy but I can certainly feedback on the clarity of the instructions (DD is 2 months so perhaps a good future taster!).

Hunn1e Fri 10-May-13 22:22:23

Thank you for all the offers - I'll pm you all so as not to crowd this space. I'm not worried about the fussy eaters so much (test driven it all to death there) it's more about whether when someone else follows my instructions they make sense and the end result works. Had issues with a dodgy thermostat on my oven so feed back on whether you feel the temperature instructions are right would be super useful too!

ScienceRocks Sat 11-May-13 00:17:00

Vermouth and tarragon chicken was great, as was the cake. April in KD for those interested.

tigerlilygrr Sat 11-May-13 08:17:51

Hi hunn1e I'll happily test for you as we'll. perhaps not the point but if you could send me recipes with no mushrooms or aubergines I would be grateful (not because my dd is fussy but because I am!)

tigerlilygrr Sat 11-May-13 08:18:09

As well.

tigerlilygrr Sat 11-May-13 08:18:39

Not as we'll.

I might just stop posting now until I've woken up!

Nolda Sat 11-May-13 08:28:36

I picked up the correct Kitchen Diaries from the library yesterday but the librarian told me that I was 5th on the list for Jerusalem sad.

Maniac, hope you have a lovely time at the Pig. My FIL treated the family to a meal there a couple of years ago and it was very nice. But to be picky I did prefer it when it was Whitley Ridge. We used to live in Lymington but have now moved eastwards within Hampshire.

Pufflemum Sat 11-May-13 11:00:10

Had the sea bass from Jerusalem and it was lovely. Even my husband who is not keen on fish said he would happily eat it again. Also made ( well assembled as no cooking involved) the feta and artichoke salad from KD. I usually love artichokes but I wasn't overly fond of the salad, prefer the artichokes alone as they were too oily in this recipe I found.

Off the plan, but I mde chicken with mushrooms in cider from HFW Eveyday last night for some friends and everyone loved it, it's very easy and was really nice.

Not sure what to have tonight, something from KD, so will go back through this thread for inspiration.

Nolda Sat 11-May-13 12:07:40

Puffle, thanks for the HFW recipe recommendation. I was given that book for Christmas and haven't made anything from it yet. I have marked the page!

Cherrypi Sat 11-May-13 14:12:41

Picked up Jerusalem from the library. It's huge. Not sure what to cook from it yet. Looks interesting. grin

florencedombey Sat 11-May-13 21:18:51

Hello, may I join you? I don't have Jerusalem but am a big fan of Nige.

I've just made (and eaten!) the Vietnamese beef salad from KD1 (June) and it was utterly delicious. I didn't use lime leaves (Waitrose let me down) but it didn't seem to matter. If I make it again, I'll get the salad ingredients out of the fridge earlier as they made the beef cool down too quickly, but otherwise it was pretty perfect.

Florence DH is just finishing the beef salad off now! I did all the prep but DTS is being a pain so am feeding him into submission and leaving DH to cook the steak. I also have struggled with lime leaves - is there a national shortage?!?

Will report back later also

florencedombey Sat 11-May-13 21:36:38

Ooh, great minds!

I expect Nigel lives in the sort of neighbourhood that has posh delis on every corner and lime leaves growing in the window boxes...

It's weird as I often using them in Thai curries and have never had an issue finding them before but this week - nada!

It was really lovely actually. I added half a pepper ad some scallions finely shredded too to bulk up the salad and you could probably add some noodles too agai. For a bit of bulk. But it was a great summer recipe for steak and DH really liked it too. Was good for curre t stage of mat leave as I did all the prep early in the evening and then DH just had to stick the steaks on and slice and serve it all whilst I was dealing with babies.

ScienceRocks Sun 12-May-13 11:34:05

A rare fail for nigel slater this morning. Made the ricotta and range pancakes, which tasted nice but were a very odd texture. When they went in the pan, they didn't flatten out so were really gooey in the middle. This made them tricky to turn and the DDs were put off.

The Smitten Kitchen yogurt pancakes were much better!

I have given up on Nigel. I trawled through KD again this morning but there really is absolutely nothing I want to cook in there. sad

Pantah630 Sun 12-May-13 14:24:26

Just made the pork and lemon polpettine for lunch. I baked the in the oven at 180*fan for about 20-30 mins as advised upthread. With all the fritters we've had recently I needed to step away from the frying pan smile
They were delicious, will make again for sure. Served with taglietelle with peas and mushrooms.

I picked up some salmon in Waitrose earlier for the fish cakes and almost had a heart attac when I realised 500g from £9. I got the nice lad on the fish counter to skin it for me, all the while hyperventilating that three nice pan fried fillets would have been scrumptious, those fish cakes better be fabulous. Will up the dill content as advised as well when I make them tomorrow.

On the plus size I did get three lemon sole fillets for half price grin

Pantah630 Sun 12-May-13 14:26:10

I know what you mean remus compared with Ottelenghi he lags far behind.

Soupqueen Sun 12-May-13 15:04:15

I made my first recipe from this month's books yesterday - the onion soup from KD (January). I figured that onions are pretty much seasonal year round (I think?) and our current weather calls for January recipes more than May sad

It was ok. Nothing really wrong with it, but it didn't excite me and I doubt I'll make it again. I've made much nicer onion soups in the past.

kneedeepindaisies Sun 12-May-13 16:39:39

Pantah The dill issue maybe because I didn't follow the serving suggestion because I didn't actually read that bit grin

tigerlilygrr Sun 12-May-13 17:54:28

I also find Nigel a bit ... Meh. First of all you have to wade through all the waxing lyrical before you get the recipe. Then there aren't that many pictures (as previously noticed I am extremely shallow when it comes to cookbooks). Then a lot of the recipes, while perfectly nice, are just not very exciting. I've bookmarked spaghetti bolognaise and the brownies as my two to cook... They both look like good recipes and the brownies have got rave reviews up thread, but they're such classic recipes I could make adequate versions without a recipe so am just not excited about them... Whereas with Ottolenghi it's so fresh and different, I'm really reading the recipes not just flicking through.

Definitely since the cookbook club threads started Nigel has divided opinion the most though as there are tons of people that love him.

akarucker Sun 12-May-13 18:21:10

tiger I agree with everything you said. I'm already bored with KD, but as I write this, I have Jerusalem open on my lap, lapping up every page. It's from the library but I think I'll buy it.

I've earmarked the meatballs with broad beans & lemon to make next week (p 196), and I thought we'd have it with the basmati & orzo rice, as recommended. The picture looks so scrumptious!

Pantah630 Sun 12-May-13 18:22:55

Not sure if its the same in the book version but it really winds me up that there is no contents page of recipes. You have to trawl through the months trying to find the recipes you like the sound of. Then remember to bookmark them so you can locate again.

In conclusion I think it's a lovely reading book that contains recipes, not all of which inspire but are ones those of us, quite competent when faced with a fridge/cupboard of ingredients, rustle up on a daily basis without needing a recipe, with a few gems --pork and lemon polpettine--added in for good measure.

ELR Sun 12-May-13 18:32:41

aka the meatballs are to die for! It was the first recipe I made from the book. I too have it from the library but am going to buy it. I made it with just plain basmati and also I made the green pepper, celery and lemon salad on the ottolenghi website someone linked to up thread.
For those struggling with KD make the lemon ice cream it is very nice.

I have to admit I have all Nigel's books and would say he's one of my fave cooks however this thread has made me realise its just the reading and watching as I rarely cook anything from his books! This thread has been an eye opener.

And I love love love Jerusalem!

akarucker Sun 12-May-13 18:38:17

elr yes, I love watching him, too. He's so calm and relaxing when he cooks. It's nice to watch, and of course his meals look delicious at the end. The sort of stuff you plan to rustle up that night and will taste great. But, I've never even looked at one of his books I until a few days ago, and I am a little disappointed.

Can't wait to make the meatballs now.

Oh, and I'm so excited I've found this thread that allows me to warble on about food, cookbooks, and recipes, without getting bored with me and telling me to give it a rest!

tigerlilygrr Sun 12-May-13 18:41:30

it's a lovely reading book that contains recipes - great description pantah.

Also on contents pages. This is a particular bugbear of mine. Why oh why oh why do cookery writers not insist on a proper contents page listing all the recipes? Don't they want to encourage their readers? I also find the index is often done quite badly as well with recipes only listed under the main ingredient, rather than listed multiple times under all the major ingredients.

Sorry I appear to have gone all victor meldrew all of a sudden!

For dinner tonight, from Jerusalem I'm tossing up the stuffed aubergine, the lamb meatballs or the lamb and egg thing, with yoghurt and sumac (sorry the book is downstairs can't remember the proper names) when a decision is made I will report back.

I have to say I am a lover of Nigel. I don't think the books and authors are comparable as they're so different. But as I said up thread, Nigel is about ideas IMO and usually lunch time ideas. it's not strictly a recipe book though is it? It's a diary of food.

kneedeepindaisies Sun 12-May-13 19:01:44

I cooked the roast chicken with cheese mash and garlic gravy tonight as the library still don't have Jerusalem. hmm

It was pleasant but nothing spectacular. I agree that KD is a lovely book to read but everything I've cooked so far I could have cooked without the recipe.

ScienceRocks Sun 12-May-13 19:18:36

I have to be a voice of dissent and say that I love Nigel Slater and all his books, but don't like watching him at all! I don't mind the absence of pictures (a complete absence in the case of Real Fast Food!) and feel it gives me the freedom to make the dish look how I want. I find him inspiring on a day to day level, and adore his writing style. His presenting style, however, annoys me intensely. I think I envy the fact that he can apparently potter to the shops and in the kitchen and garden, with no bills to pay or children to tend angry

I'm a bit of a fan, and have been since he started out many years ago. It probably shows smile

Science, I don't like watching him either. He's too wet on TV IMO. But as I said below, I love his bookssmile

ELR Sun 12-May-13 19:44:29

Thought I would give a list of what I've made from each book. So from Jerusalem I've made:
*Beef meatballs With broad beans and lemon*pg 196 10/10 fantastic and can't wait to make again.
*Semolina, coconut and marmalade cake*pg 264 9/10 delicious but I think an acquired taste due to the marmalade which is a little bitter.
Mejadra pg 120 7/10 good will make again at some point.
* Swiss chard with tahini yogurt sauce* pg 88 7/10 good.
Chicken Sofrito pg 190 8/10 very nice will make again.
Chermoula baked aubergine pg 59 7/10 good, nice lunch.
Turkey & courgette burgers pg 200 10/10 will def make again.

From KD
Lemon ice cream May 10/10 delicious will make again.