Dh has announced he wants to buy a breadmaker

(98 Posts)
Mrsrobertduvall Thu 21-Mar-13 07:21:07

Now I'm all for encouraging him in the kitchen.

I know nothing about them...but know lots of you have them.
Which one do you recommend.....worth the effort?
I rarely eat bread but everyone else does.

shrimponastick Thu 21-Mar-13 07:29:23

Meh.

We were bought one as a gift one Christmas.

It's a Cookworks.

DH has persisted with it, I gave up after the first few attempts. However we only ever end up with a heavy, soggy, lump of loaf.

Could be just out model which is rubbish, but I find more success making bread by hand. Which cuts put the 3 hours or
more of whirrring/churning running up the electricity bill.

FiveGoMadInDorset Thu 21-Mar-13 07:32:51

Panasonic.

multitask Thu 21-Mar-13 08:15:58

Panasonic.

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 21-Mar-13 08:46:44

Panasonic here too.

phantomhairpuller Thu 21-Mar-13 08:51:02

This happened to my DH too smile I'm now bored to the back teeth of homemade bread but he's persisting with it cos otherwise I'd be proven right!
Panasonic is by far the best from what I've heard

Mrsrobertduvall Thu 21-Mar-13 10:11:17

Right I will tell him.
His golf course is closed at the moment due to rain, and he is bored. I could rustle up a few jobs for him.

Emilythornesbff Thu 21-Mar-13 10:18:29

Panasonicithink.
I make a regular loaf a couple of times a week for toast and use the dough setting to make rolls for lunches and also make pizza and dough balls.
Thank goodness Atkins is no longer fashionable here.

MoominmammasHandbag Thu 21-Mar-13 12:04:31

Another vote for Panasonic.

rockinhippy Thu 21-Mar-13 12:09:56

Tell him to save his money & make bread from scratch without one, its very easy & you don't need a bread maker - my ones stuck in the attic & was used once - took up too much much space & was a waste if time & money - its a myth that bread is difficult, you just need the right recipes.

There are lots knead recipes on line, but I actually enjoy that bit & he probably would too & big heavy handed hands - usually male[ grin] - are the best for that job

rockinhippy Thu 21-Mar-13 12:12:28

Lost text - lots of no knead recipes

Why not try your local Freecycle or similar & see if you can get a freebie - if you then think you really will use one, then you can upgrade it - I see bread makers on ours every week

Trazzletoes Thu 21-Mar-13 12:15:07

We have a Panasonic too and it's fab.

The electricity cost is so minimal to be essentially nothing. Also you have less salt in the entire loaf than in one slice of shop bought bread!

Handmade bread is obviously better IMO but I can't be fussed with making loaves, though I do focaccia etc by hand.

It's so easy. 2 mins to throw the ingredients and you have a fresh warm loaf first thing in the morning!

rockinhippy Thu 21-Mar-13 12:16:26

Ps, mine is Panasonic - & even though the bread was okay, it
Just wasn't as nice as made by hand, no easier & as someone else has already said, not cheap when you factor in hours of electricity use

bigbadbarry Thu 21-Mar-13 12:16:28

Tell him to watch Paul Hollywood and do it by hand smile

SavoyCabbage Thu 21-Mar-13 12:16:32

Panasonic.

Mine is almost ten years old and I must use it nearly every day.

GinTintedGlasses Thu 21-Mar-13 12:20:16

I have a panasonic and it is brilliant. Never had a bad loaf!

mikey9 Thu 21-Mar-13 12:21:28

DON'T just get a cheapy one - as you will be one of the posters or repeaters of others experience of poor soggy failed loaves.

DO get a panasonic one - we are on our second have probably made a loaf (me - last thing before going to bed) every night for the last 10 years (I am also a man.....!)

They DO produce excellent bread - it IS massively cheaper for quality bread than buying the same in any supermarket and WILL pay itself off in limited time.

Buy bags of quality flour (Doves, SHipton mill) in bulk, also Doves farm yeast in packs (not sachets). 70% white to 30% malted/wholmean or whatever. Add Pumpkin/Sunflour and poppy seeds to really make a great loaf.

A lttle trial and error and you will be set up for a life of no more trips to be tempted at the shops because you need a loaf....

Use the Nan mix when you make a curry - 5 mins in the V Hot oven after you rolll them out and as close to curry house as you can get.

Pizza base mix - also great - do a double mix and you have enough for 6 large thin based Pizzas - cover, cook and freeze and you don't eat!!

Any questions at the back??

Oh - I have it down to under 1 minute for loading each night - if you are organised (like everything) then it isn't the faff some try to make out.... grin

Panasonic.

We always make bread the night before rather than to be warm in the morning, because really it needs to sit for an hour and cool down before using, and who wants to get out of bed an hour before they eat their toast?

DH considers it a failure now if we are disorganised on the bread front and have to go out and buy some - so do I, actually, as if you get sliced loaf from the corner shop there's just no comparison.

snoworneahva Thu 21-Mar-13 13:02:20

Panasonic here too. I've had it for 10 years. We never bake bread in it - only give it the job of making the dough - bread is a better shape, doesn't have the paddle hole and tastes better.
Dough made by hand or even with the Kitchen aid is easier to handle but most of the time we just use the bread machine, shop bought bread is horrid stuff and we can no longer eat shop bought pizzas....if your going to indulge best make sure the taste is worth it.

EasterHoliday Thu 21-Mar-13 13:05:40

can't I just give you the Panasonic one from my attic? the person who gave it to me refuses to have it back... they take up a MASSIVE amount of space and then you buy 5 different types of flour / yeast to make different bread etc and then realise you don't eat much bread but have full cupboards and countertop...

Hmm be warned. My dh watched some tv show about supermarket bread fermenting in our stomachs and bought a bread maker. He insisted he would be responsible for making the bread. That lasted about six weeks. Now muggins makes the bread otherwise dh uses the last bit to make his own sandwiches, leaving no bread for the kids. He then nags me mercilessly about how crap I am at slicing the bread.
I don't even eat bread

We use our Panasonic every day. If it died, we would be buying another one priority from Amazon.

Bread is great, and last time we bought sliced, DS refused to eat it!

Also use for pizza and brioche. I keep meaning to use it for other things, but don't get round to it. Agree that while fresh bread smells lovely, it is a nightmare to slice...so we try to make in advance of need iyswim.

Panasonic. We haven't bought shop bread since we bought it. I love knowing exactly what's in it and what I'm giving to my children. Mine also makes jam and cakes although yet to try those functions. Or u can just do dough and shape into rolls and oven. U do use alot as loaves are smaller but it's fresher and its a comfort to know there's no hidden nasties.

zippy539 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:27:56

Another vote for panasonic - love mine and use it nearly every day.

mikey a question from the back. What nan mix recipe do you use - I've never quite cracked home-made nan and would love to.

Letticetheslug Thu 21-Mar-13 13:44:38

another Panasonic vote here. Had a cheapo one before and the bread was nowhere near as good

Veneto Thu 21-Mar-13 17:56:57

Yet another vote for panasonic.

bassingtonffrench Thu 21-Mar-13 18:02:23

be warned, DH spends a fortune on flour and yeast then never actually uses it

I concur, I had a morphy Richards (i think) one before, now I have Panasonic and it makes much better bread.

I'd also say Panasonic!!! It's bloody marvellous. Don't use it loads, but it's faberoo when we do. We have made cakes with it as well as just for dough to make our own bread/rolls outside the maker.

I wish my DH wanted to buy a bread maker! He keeps watching Wheeler Dealers and wants a classic sports car!!!! (In his dreams, but he keeps banging on about it!)

TWinklyLittleStar Thu 21-Mar-13 18:14:20

DH bought 'me' a Panasonic breadmaker for Christmas, he uses it at least twice a week and its a damn sight quicker than making bread by hand. We have different sorts, I think it'll be a long time before we get bored.

SingingSands Thu 21-Mar-13 18:14:52

Panasonic! We have the SD-2501 model, which I bought DH for Christmas 2 years ago after swearing I never would. He makes one or two loafs a week. Bread comes out lovely, especially the lemon and poppy seed,my favourite!

Mrsrobertduvall Thu 21-Mar-13 18:15:48

I would like Paul Hollywood to do me by hand blush [lowers tone]

JulesJules Thu 21-Mar-13 18:24:14

Panasonic. Had Morphy Richards cheapo one previously which was OK, but not as sturdy.

Put it on at night on the timer so it has time to cool down a bit for breakfast. Takes about 90 seconds to put in the ingredients and set the timer and you wake up to the smell of fresh baked bread. We use ours to make dough for rolls, focaccia, pizzas, cinnamon rolls etc as well. It also does jam and cake although I haven't tried those.

You know exactly what has gone in your loaf - just flour, yeast, water and a teaspoon each of butter and salt for the easiest loaf, no additives. You can experiment with wholegrain/seeded flours, spelt, cinnamon, raisins etc.

It uses minimal amounts of electricity and takes up 13 inches of the work top, hardly a massive amount. If I was really that pushed for space I'd get rid of the microwave before the breadmaker.

mikey9 Thu 21-Mar-13 19:55:00

^ What JuleJules said...!

Even better I am now putting it on before I go to work so it uses our roof made electriciy (PVs) so we avoid paying for the 1Kwh (15p) of electricity it takes.

Today ours has been on overtime and made an overnight wholemeal loaf, a quick white loaf (2hrs), and pizza dough for 6 huge pizzas - 3 of which we just consumed after swimming - the other three head for the freezer for a quick easy meal.

I totally agree about the quality of ingredients and knowing what is in your bread.

Question about nan recipe by zippy539

Panansonic SD206
half tsp yeast
225g Strong White Flour
1 tsp sugar
half tsp salt
half tsp baking powder
1 tblsp veg oil
2 tblsp nat yoghurt
100ml water
Basic Dough mode

Takes 2hr 20m
I double everything - and split the dough into 3 or six - roll out a bit to get the general shape then stretch and finger the edges to amke it about the size of a medium baking tray then cook em all together.

V hot Oven for a few mins (keep an eye on them - they do rise well) and eat straight away........mmmmmmmmm
Kids love em.

ANy not eaten

mikey9 Thu 21-Mar-13 19:56:02

^^ Any not eaten - in the freezer for another day then back in hot oven straight from freezer......

multitaskmama Thu 21-Mar-13 20:44:57

Panasonic

I agree with Trazzletoes

My husband wanted a breadmaker two years ago and I said I didn't have the time to use it or clean it. He said he would and to this day he does.
Chuck in the ingredients before going to bed and hey presto, amazing fresh bread in the morning. Nothing beats the aroma of fresh bread.

I am always buying the what seem the tasties loaves in supermarkets eg seed sensation, wholemeal multiseeded with oat and pumpkin blah blah blah but nothing compares to the wholemeal bread hubby makes. The bread made in the breadmaker with fresh ingredients actually tastes like bread. The shop bought loaved just do not compare!

ceeveebee Thu 21-Mar-13 20:50:11

I just use bread mix - wrights - and bake in the oven. They are very easy and delicious. I love kneading, its good for stress relief, just a bit of a faff waiting for the dough to rise.

Panasonic. Just finished the pizza I made in it today.

Startail Thu 21-Mar-13 21:07:03

Panasonic sits on sideboard on far side of kitchen and beetles away happily to its self. As long as you follow the instructions to the letter if using timer it works perfectly.

olivertheoctopus Thu 21-Mar-13 21:12:20

Panasonic. But I'd buy him Paul Hollywood's Bread book instead

swampster Thu 21-Mar-13 21:14:24

Yet another vote for Panasonic.

swampster Thu 21-Mar-13 21:15:20

You just reminded me to go throw together the ingredients for my favourite non-breadmaker bread for tomorrow though!

Notmadeofrib Thu 21-Mar-13 21:22:25

Don't make the chelsea buns using the Panasonic... they are addictive.

zippy539 Thu 21-Mar-13 23:12:08

mikey - thankyou smile

MoreBeta Thu 21-Mar-13 23:18:46

Panasonic is what everyone recommends. I have a Kenwood which I now only use for convenience to make and raise dough (which it does very well) I actually knock back the dough and knead and shape by hand and bake in the oven.

I dont eat bread as I am gluten intolerant but my family enjoy fresh bread. I do also make and bake brioche loaf in mine which always goes down well and is lovely for breakfast.

OldBeanbagz Fri 22-Mar-13 15:57:55

I have an aging Panasonic and have had nothing but good results from it.

I took custody of it from my MIL who decided it was easier to buy bread now that she's on her own.

newtonupontheheath Fri 22-Mar-13 19:27:54

Can a Panasonic breadmaker owner tell me how do you clean/wash them?

Please say you chuck it all in the dishwasher because I reeeeeally want one grin

mamij Fri 22-Mar-13 19:34:19

Panasonic too. Chuck everything in the bread maker the night before, and enjoy a lovely, warm bread in the morning!

dollydiamond68 Fri 22-Mar-13 19:53:46

Does anyone have a good brioche recipe for the Panasonic?

TunipTheVegedude Fri 22-Mar-13 20:00:08

The only thing you need to wash is the bread tin and kneading paddle. To be honest I don't actually wash mine every loaf. It's pretty clean when you take the loaf out. When I do dough in it I let it dry and then it just flakes off. It's a 7 year old Panasonic, used more than 2000 times, but the non-stick is still good.

seb1 Fri 22-Mar-13 20:01:48

Panasonic

TWinklyLittleStar Fri 22-Mar-13 20:04:30

Haha, I do the same as tunip but didn't want to be the first to say so in case I was being a total slattern.

dollydiamond the brioche recipe in the book that came with the Panasonic works well for us.

TunipTheVegedude Fri 22-Mar-13 20:07:47

smile Twinkly.

Visitors make the mistake of trying to wash the doughy breadpan. They put it in to soak and think they are being helpful. Not good.

dollydiamond68 Fri 22-Mar-13 20:15:00

Thank you Twinkly will have a look.

mikey9 Fri 22-Mar-13 20:35:41

Aye.
We use the no wash till the paddle barely moves around approach too. I find putting some water in after taking the dough out thena quick brush with the washing up brush sorts it fine.

I just couldn't understand the comments above about not wanting to clean the pan - suggesting that this was a biggy. SOme people are so00000 resistant to change/new things.....

Mummybookworm Fri 22-Mar-13 21:06:47

Another Panasonic fan and I agree with Notmadeofrib the Chelsea buns are incredible!

tigerlilygrr Fri 22-Mar-13 21:33:03

Yup Panasonic here too. I've only had it a few weeks but I can't believe how good it is. I am working through the recipes one at a time as a mat leave project and I practically have to sit on my hands to stop myself making more loaves. It's cheap, it's easy, it's much much better for you than shop bought... I love it. Haven't tried the jam or cakes yet though. (Wondering who has based on the posters above). I am thinking about relegating my toaster to a cupboard now as the bread is too good to toast!

Btw for all you make it by hand types, I read that the King Arthur flour company in the US use breadmakers to make the dough, handshape the loaves and then bake in an oven to test their flours, apparently this is the optimum technique. Haven't tried this either but definitely will (and big thanks to the poster for the naan recipe above, will be trying that too!)

TunipTheVegedude Fri 22-Mar-13 21:35:12

I've never been convinced that kneading by hand gets better results. Baking in a normal oven rather than the bread machine does, though.

MoreBeta Fri 22-Mar-13 21:41:52

tigerlily - that interesting what you said about the King Arthur flour company. I do exactly that and it works really well. In fact I think my loaves are as good as you would buy in an expensive bakery if I use the breadmaker to do the initial kneadkneading but the rest by hand and bake in an oven.

I definitley think the kneading cycle on my breadmaker is better than doing it by hand in the initial rise. It keeps the dough at optimum temp and the paddle produces really well kneaded dough with no hassel.

TunipTheVegedude Fri 22-Mar-13 21:45:27

Same here Beta.
As long as you have an oven that gets decently hot you can do very impressive bread with a minimum of effort by kneading in the machine and shaping by hand.

tigerlilygrr Fri 22-Mar-13 21:50:23

Will try that next as part of my ongoing breadmaker experiment! Oh my maternity leave is flying by but I will never get into my work suits!

MoreBeta Fri 22-Mar-13 21:50:33

I have a Rangemaster oven (gas) which I do not like at all for baking.

I think electric is a lot better for baking cakes, pastry, bread.

newtonupontheheath Sat 23-Mar-13 09:31:51

Why did you tell me that turnip and twinkly? No washing at all...... Oh man. I can so not afford one right now hmm grin

JamNan Sat 23-Mar-13 09:39:17

I got a cheapie one second hand. I usually use the dough cycle and then bake the bread in the oven. You can make all sorts of things with a breadmaker like pizza dough, sweet bread, pasta, cakes even jam or marmalade.

Am going to make hot cross buns today.

Agree with mikey9 use quality flour and Doves yeast.

ceeveebee Sat 23-Mar-13 09:41:56

Just looked at amazon - Panasonic one is pricey, £135?? We only but one loaf a week so would take about 2 years to pay back!

If anyone is interested then kenwood maker is reduced from £139 to £91 on amazon

TunipTheVegedude Sat 23-Mar-13 09:59:55

Try and find one second-hand (Ebay?). They're one of those things that most people either use all the time, or never, so there are usually quite a few hardly used ones knocking about.

IMO, if you are likely to be just doing the dough in the machine and baking in the oven, you could probably get away with a cheaper one, but if you're going to regularly use it for the whole process it's worth splashing out for the Panasonic.
I used to have a Morphy Richards which was a decent and useful gadget but the Panasonic is still streets ahead.

MoreBeta Sat 23-Mar-13 10:29:46

I find breadmaker cooking dries the loaf out albeit splendid for actually making the dough.

The drying out of the loaf happens because the heating element in a breadmaker only heats the pan relatively slowly.

Putting a loaf in a proper oven in intense heat causes 'oven spring' where the CO2 bubbles from the yeast expand rapidly and then the heat forms a crust very quickly so moisture is trapped in the loaf without needing it to cook long.

I can bake a 2lb boule loaf in 15 minutes in my oven yet a breaadmaker with a 1 lb loaf takes much longer once it reaches the final cooking cycle.

If I do boy standard white bread dough in the Panasonic, how long would I bake it in the oven? I've never tried that. Or maybe rolls...

Bog standard ffs

MoreBeta Sat 23-Mar-13 12:35:40

About 20 mins in a loaf tin.

Put in very top of oven on highest heat for 10 mins then move it down to the middle shelf for 10 mins. Dust with flour to stop it burning.

For a flat or round loaf hand shaped loaf on a baking tray just bake for a bit less time - say about 15 minutes in total.

MoreBeta Sat 23-Mar-13 12:36:38

The loaf should sound hollow when tapped on the bottom if it is properly baked. You need to experiment a bit with your oven though.

Great thanks. Have never done bread in the oven, I was quite likely to put it in and wander off for 40 minutes [blusb]

snoworneahva Sat 23-Mar-13 14:04:42

Depends on the oven really, they vary so much, but I stick a loaf in for 20mins at 220C and then come back to have a look at it. Rolls take 10-15mins. I flour the top to stop it forming a thick crust. Don't get disheartened if it's a bit crap first time - baking in the oven is worth getting right.

littlecupcake Sun 24-Mar-13 16:24:16

Only had my Panasonic for a fortnight but it's ace! Lovely fresh loaves, pizza dough is comparable to Zizzi/Pizza Express quality. Have also tried red berry compote (would change raspberries for something else next time, didn't like the pips) was great with porridge and Greek yoghurt. Also did apple compote, lovely for apple crumble. Favourite so far is the fruit tea loaf, easy to do and tastes lush. Going to make croissants and strawberry jam this week. So much more than a 'bead maker', and so quick and easy too. Highly recommend!

lolalotta Sun 24-Mar-13 17:21:44

Panasonic.

SoupDreggon Sun 24-Mar-13 17:25:56

Panasonic!

I have a cinnamon & sultana loaf in it as we speak. It will be ready when the children are in bed and gone shortly after even though that quantity of wheat will make me look pregnant

lolalotta Sun 24-Mar-13 17:26:44

I make my loaves to come out at bedtime, then cover with a tea towel. By morning they are easy peasy to cut with an electric bread knife. And you get more slices per loaf as you don't have to cut doorsteps...wink

lolalotta Sun 24-Mar-13 17:29:33

I would love the Nahn recipe too, just had a flick through and can't see it in my Panasonic recipe book...

PipkinsPal Sun 24-Mar-13 17:30:46

I've recently bought this one and really pleased with it. Russell Hobbs - Argos £54.99 cat no 423/1174. Fastbake 55mins, 3 diff sizes, 500g 750g 1kg, variable browning. Rectangular tin. Recipes use olive oil which makes the loaves lighter including the fastbake one. In fact I'm off to make a loaf now.

PipkinsPal Sun 24-Mar-13 17:33:39

Oh and I use bread flour from Lidl. Less than 80p for 1.5Kg.

lucky you!

panasonic here. i use mine all the time. real lifesaver.

mikey9 Mon 25-Mar-13 21:13:27

lolalotta - nan recipe is halfway up this thread under my username

For fat - I use olive oil, sunflour oil, marge, olive oil spread depending on what we have available - but usually butter - they all work well......

Inspired by those of you who do dough in the maker and use the oven for baking - I did a double mix and made 6 rolls and a round loaf that way yesterday - lovely rolls for lunch today - and the big round loaf is lovely and soft and quite different in texture to the maker made loaves.

Just need to do that everyday now....

Pollaidh Tue 26-Mar-13 17:42:44

Panasonic.

We use ours a few times a week usually. I don't bother but my husband like to do it (he does also make bread by hand quite often with my toddler). Get one with a seed dispenser so you can experiment. Ours also does delicious brioche and you can add lemon zest. Pizza dough also good. We've had the machine about 4-5 years and it's still going strong.

Nooooo....you've got to do it by hand!

The oven gives a better crust and you knead need to get a feel for the dough. Plus it only takes a few minutes of hands on time and a couple of decent bread tins are WAY cheaper than a machine and it's just so EASY. Really, there is nothing to it.

SoupDreggon Tue 26-Mar-13 22:03:45

[shrug] It takes less than a minute of hands on time to use a bread maker. By the time you work it out on a cost-per-use basis, the bread maker isn't at all expensive. In my case, it works out cheaper than tins as I know I couldn't be arsed to make bread by hand and would have given up after a couple of goes. My bread maker, however, has been used loads in the 4 years I've had it.

Each to their own. My dad actually gave me the machine as he preferred making it by hand. I prefer making it by machine.

Wyfee Wed 27-Mar-13 07:28:23

Don't buy a bread maker. Spend the money on a good book and learn the principles from there. All you need is your oven, a bowl and a baking tray. If you must get a gadget, try an ice cream maker.

SoupDreggon Wed 27-Mar-13 07:35:18

No - ice cream makers are rubbish IME. Unless you get one of the ones that does all the freezing for you too and I'm not sure who eats the enough icecream to make that viable!

JulesJules Wed 27-Mar-13 10:30:14

Yep, the keep the bowl in the freezer type of ice cream makers are not very good and use up a lot of space in the freezer. If I had the £££££ and the space, I would have a Cusinart with built in freezer.

I can and do make my own bread by hand, but I don't have the time or the inclination to make the daily bread for the family. For me it's not a choice between handmade/breadmaker but between breadmaker/shopbought bread.

No contest.

bigbadbarry Wed 27-Mar-13 18:44:08

I love my icecream maker, just a freeze the bowl attachment for my kenwood chef. Which, incidentally kneads bread extremely well with its dough hook, then to be baked in the oven. Maybe a kenwood chef is the real way forward.

SoupDreggon Wed 27-Mar-13 18:55:02

Can you put all the ingredients in a Kenwood Chef, leave it for 4 hours and then come back to a loaf of bread?

bigbadbarry Wed 27-Mar-13 19:01:52

No. But you can put all the ingredients in, leave it for an hour, mix for a minute, leave it for an hour, slam it in the oven and have bread 20 minutes later. Plus ice cream. Cakes. Pasta...

ouryve Wed 27-Mar-13 19:02:42

bigbadbarry, I have panasonic breadmaker which I use for loaves of bread, with minimum fuss and no need to turn the oven on and I also have a kitchenaid. I actually prefer the kitchenaid for dough, since it's easier to clean (I'm in the don't wash the tin unless something sticks, but if you wash the tin, then something is bound to stick camp).

If I was to say which implement gets used the most, it's my breadmaker.

I just discovered the other week that Morrisons sell fresh yeast in the chilled section - no need to go beg for it. I've been making my best bread ever with it!

snoworneahva Wed 27-Mar-13 20:26:01

I'm greedy! I love my Panasonic Bread maker - I use it to mix dough and do the first rise, always oven bake - no contest. When we had our house renovated and I was forced to choose one gadget for temporary tiny kitchen I chose my Kitchen Aid, it made better bread but required a bit more attention - not much if you are around all day, but often I'm not. Love my Phillips ice cream machine, home made ice cream is just so lovely, real chocolate ice cream, instead of the vague coloured stuff....would love a machine with an inbuilt freezer but it might be a bit too convenient.

SoupDreggon Wed 27-Mar-13 20:48:27

Bigbadbarry, that would just be a "no"

Some people seem to overlook the fact that others like a bread maker because it does everything and they can't be arsed with faffing about with all the proving, knocking back and baking that go into traditional bread making. I it my choice of ingredients in, switch it on and that's the only involvement bar taking it out of the pan. If I did not have a bread maker, I wouldnt make bread. My dad prefers to make all his bread by hand

No method is right or wrong, just down personal choice.

Here here, SoupDreggon. Or should that be "hear, hear". <ponders...>

snoworneahva Wed 27-Mar-13 21:08:03

Agree Soupdreggon we used our Panasonic to make bread, dough and bake for 4 years before we started to experiment with oven baked loaves. You can take anything to extremes - I grew my own yeast starter for a few months to make sour dough bread but it wasn't sustainable, I got bored.

Home baked bread is such a huge improvement on shop bought, no matter what way you make it.

mikey9 Fri 29-Mar-13 21:37:26

Well - this appears to be a great endorsement for Panasonic - and it is great to hear so many positive comments - reinforcing our own experiences.

It has even got me using it for dough (at the wknds) - and popping loaves and rolls in the oven when it is on for something else.

Today (based on comments on here) tried a brioche recipe from the book that came with it - ended up as a double load cheese brioche (which went down well with all - however I would suggest making two loaves as it is difficult to get the centre perfectly cooked without burning the outer with such a monstrous brioche - tastes devine tho.....!!

If you have never tried it (I hadn't before today) do one over the Easter weekend ;-)

JulesJules Sat 30-Mar-13 15:57:02

Yy, the people at Panasonic should be v happy with this thread if they see it.

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