to ask if Italians and any of you eat brown pasta

(127 Posts)
MoYerBoat Wed 13-Mar-13 20:28:17

because, according to many a Mumsnetter, white pasta is the work of the devil.

So do they eat white or brown pasta in Italy - home of pasta.

And what about brown rice - who eats that?

(Badly worded OP but really would like answers)

ceres Wed 13-Mar-13 20:30:28

i'm not italian but i eat wholemeal pasta.

i also eat brown rice.

intheshed Wed 13-Mar-13 20:31:50

Brown rice- yes it's great with chilli.
Brown pasta- yuck! Quite partial to tricolore pasta though.

Kids shouldn't have too much fibre anyway.

TWinklyLittleStar Wed 13-Mar-13 20:32:24

I'm not Italian but I like brown pasta. It has a nice firm texture instead of going all floppy like white pasta.

aldiwhore Wed 13-Mar-13 20:34:14

I love brown rice, I eat it through preference (although I like Basmati white a bit).

I make my own pasta occassionally, it's not something I eat a lot, and often use wholemeal flour and it's lovely... the dried stuff is a bit YAK in my opinion, though the white stuff is alright.

I may sound like a smug twat making my own pasta, but it's really easy and I don't own a pasta roller (yet)...

Pontouf Wed 13-Mar-13 20:34:56

Not keen on brown pasta - it's a little too al dente for my tastes. Love brown rice though, I think it has a lot more flavour than white rice.

Crawling Wed 13-Mar-13 20:35:11

I love brown pasta hate brown rice.

ZZZenAgain Wed 13-Mar-13 20:36:25

I'm not Italian. Dd has brown pasta sometimes and she also has white other times.

Bearcrumble Wed 13-Mar-13 20:36:45

I am half Italian. Have never seen wholemeal pasta served in Italy and rarely brown bread.

CremeEggThief Wed 13-Mar-13 20:37:09

I'm not Italian, but I love wholemeal pasta. White makes me feel lethargic.

I like white Basmati rice though, as well as brown.

Jeezimacasalinga Wed 13-Mar-13 20:37:25

Married to an Italian here and he'd throw the plate at the wall if you gave him brown pasta. Never ever seen it in Italy. White pasta isn't floppy if it's cooked properly....

catlady1 Wed 13-Mar-13 20:38:56

I'm not Italian but I'd just as soon eat brown pasta or rice as white. DP is funny about anything remotely healthy though so I rarely cook brown.

ImpatientOne Wed 13-Mar-13 20:39:27

My DH is Italian and neither he or any of his family eat brown pasta.

Before we met I always used it but he will not entertain it, always white. My MIL (who lives in Italy) makes pasta but not the basic stuff only ravioli or tortellini which is usually egg pasta with spinach added.

In Italian supermarkets there are literally aisles of the stuff, when you buy spaghetti it comes in thicknesses from 1 like angel hair right through to thick stuff then tagliatelle etc. There is a tiny section of brown or tricoloure in comparison to the white, I would say 90% of what is sold is white - this is in Southern Italy.

niceupthedance Wed 13-Mar-13 20:39:27

Yep, former housemate was Italian and all her pasta was white.

DesperatelyChasingBloodyDog Wed 13-Mar-13 20:39:57

Not Italian, but love wholewheat fusilli with cavolo nero, pancetta and feta.

DiseasesOfTheSheep Wed 13-Mar-13 20:40:25

Married to an Italian here and he'd throw the plate at the wall if you gave him brown pasta

LTB shock

actually, don't bother, he's right, brown pasta is an abomination unto the God of food grin

OldBeanbagz Wed 13-Mar-13 20:42:11

I'm not Italian and never eat wholemeal pasta but i do eat brown rice and always eat brown bread in preference to white.

I've never had wholemeal pasta served in an Italian resaurant, either in Italy or here in the UK.

OzmaofOz Wed 13-Mar-13 20:42:11

I don't like brown pasta, love brown rice and brown bread. Not Italian.

Xales Wed 13-Mar-13 20:44:13

Married to an Italian here and he'd throw the plate at the wall if you gave him brown pasta.

Italian BF says that sounds about the right reaction if you served in a restaurant over there...

Annunziata Wed 13-Mar-13 20:44:16

No, it's shite.

Montybojangles Wed 13-Mar-13 20:44:53

Sister in law and her parents are Italian, they only eat white de cecco pasta. That sold it for me.
Only eat white basmati or wild rice ( which I think isn't actually rice?). That's a taste thing.
Get plenty of fibre in other aspects of diet so not really worried.

Glimmerberry Wed 13-Mar-13 20:44:57

I only have wholemeal pasta and find the white stuff slimy, bloaty and overly sweet.

White rice is nicer than brown so tend the mix the two rather than have 100% either.

squeakytoy Wed 13-Mar-13 20:45:02

I have been to Italy many times, and plenty of italian restaurants, and never seen anyone eating brown pasta.

IAmLouisWalsh Wed 13-Mar-13 20:45:56

Brown pasta is just horrible.

I do like brown rice though (adds to shopping list)

LaFataTurchina Wed 13-Mar-13 20:46:33

Italian here - I've only ever had wholemeal pasta in England. I don't think I've ever seen it in Italy (apart from maybe special pasta for coelics).

Apparantly, 60% of Italians eat pasta (presumably white) every day, and we're a pretty healthy bunch!

rhondajean Wed 13-Mar-13 20:46:52

I'm not italian but I've never seen wholemeal pasta when I've been. In Italy...

At home though I only eat wholemeal pasta and brown rice, I try to be careful about refined carbs. Likewise with bread, wholemeal only.

Chandon Wed 13-Mar-13 20:47:20

Not Italian, neither British. But have stong views on this.

A big point of food is enjoyment, and brown rice, brown pasta and mass produced brown bread ( nice fresh brown loaves an exception) are about Punishment, not enjoyment. Food as fuel, medicine almost, rather than pleasure. The erson mentioning floppy white past upthread, it is the wrong brand darling or you are cooking it for too long.

It has to be white, 100% durum wheat pasta.

No brown pasta or rice in this house. And no marge either or vegetable spread, butter or nothing. And olive oil or no oil.

I am boycotting my local caf as they only offer brown pasta and weird burgers with lettuce instead of buns, wtf

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Wed 13-Mar-13 20:47:26

DH's family are Italian (he's never even been there though grin ) and looked disgusted when I enquired about wholemeal pasta. Never tried it myself but my health freak vegan mother loves it.

MoYerBoat Wed 13-Mar-13 20:47:57

thanks for your replies.

So, it's OK to eat white pasta - just not too much of it?

Annunziata Wed 13-Mar-13 20:48:33

I think I would surely die if I didn't eat pasta twice a day grin

Blu Wed 13-Mar-13 20:48:37

I am not Italian, but do not use brown pasta.
Nor do I put pineapple on pizza.

You brown pasta eaters - do you make yorkshire puddings with wholemeal flour, too?

:faints at sacrilege:

xlatia Wed 13-Mar-13 20:49:47

not italian, but we have pasta at least once a week. i tend to mix 50:50 to sneak more fibre in. keep meaning to try brown rice but always forget to buy it.

Chandon Wed 13-Mar-13 20:50:24

There was a guy on tv yesterday who was 17 stone overweight. He did not understand as he only ate brown bread. At least a loaf a day, but it was....brown.

It has comparable calories to white.

Saying that, we get plenty of fibre from veg, lentils and fruit, so I just don t see the point of adding all that fibre.

ClairesTravellingCircus Wed 13-Mar-13 20:50:44

Italian here, wholemeal pasta is sold here, but I know very few people who eat it.

ImpatientOne Wed 13-Mar-13 20:52:34

The traditional way of eating where DH is from is to have pasta with every meal but only a small portion as an intermediary course. His MIL literally faints at the size of pasta meals in this country!

They also have a huge basket of white bread of the table at every meal too but people still rate the Mediterranean diet as super healthy - fine with me grin

ImpatientOne Wed 13-Mar-13 20:53:26

D'oh my MIL his DM blush

HolidayArmadillo Wed 13-Mar-13 20:53:38

Brown rice is rancid chewy nonsense. I've never tried brown pasta.

Chandon Wed 13-Mar-13 20:53:39

Moyerboat, what do you mean is it ok.

If you are an aspiring model, trying to be size 0, I would say...better not eat any pasta, or anything much at all.

Anyone else, well, up to you! Personally I do not believe carbs like pasta and bread, in normal quantities, are bad for you, but I am old fashioned and allergic to fads.

MechanicalTheatre Wed 13-Mar-13 20:54:15

Do you know what I do not get? That pasta is unhealthy. To me, pasta will always be a healthy food. Maybe because I grew up in a house of frozen breaded goods for tea every night. Pasta nights were health nights (though generally smothered in five tons of cheese.)

I hate brown pasta. It mings. I love brown rice though. Takes ages to cook which is annoying.

Bunbaker Wed 13-Mar-13 20:55:06

Excellent post Chandon

I actually quite like brown basmati rice but can't eat very much of it as I have IBS and wholegrains just give me the runs. So it's white pasta, white bread and white rice all the way for me. If white pasta is flabby and slimy then it is overcooked.

gordyslovesheep Wed 13-Mar-13 20:58:42

I love brown pasta and brown rice - white pasta seems too floppy

ifancyashandy Wed 13-Mar-13 21:00:41

I don't really eat pasta - find it makes me bloated and sleepy. But if I did, it would be brown. Always brown rice also. But probably only eat rice twice a month. Unless rice cakes - which are whole grain ones.

Brown bread / bagels etc also. But again, probably only eat bread etc once a week.

And Blu I never make Yorkshires as I hate them!

discrete Wed 13-Mar-13 21:09:20

Dh and I both partly italian and we eat brown rice and pasta. Our relatives in Italy don't, but they are generally older.

Not brown rice for risotto, though, that just doesn't work. But it's great with everything else.

And if I did make Yorkshire puddings I'd just bung in whatever flour I had to hand. Probably either wholemeal or semi-wholemeal, I don't buy white.

Italians are nothing like as healthy as they are held up to be, in fact the rates of childhood obesity are among the highest in Europe. The mediterranean diet that is supposed to be so healthy is actually fairly different from what most modern italians eat.

SoftKittyWarmKitty Wed 13-Mar-13 22:16:30

I love brown rice and brown pasta, we have both at home - very rarely have white. Restaurants irritate me because they only ever have white - white pasta just feels so stodgy and white rice is bland.

pinkyredrose Wed 13-Mar-13 22:51:54

Most of my relatives are Italian and they would be most offended if you served them brown pasta!

They have pasta as a starter mainly so don't eat massive portions.

DoJo Wed 13-Mar-13 22:52:01

I like both - I don't think it has to be an either/or situation and brown pasta is nice with sauces like puttanesca, but it has to be white for pesto. Brown rice is the same - gumbo has to be with white, but curry or chilli can be with either.

MrsKoala Wed 13-Mar-13 23:01:22

i eat it all depending on what i have with it. i also like the green seeds of change spirally ones beginning with T - dammit i can't think of the name. i have squid ink linguine too with seafood sometimes

Pandemoniaa Wed 13-Mar-13 23:03:27

DP lived in Italy and we visit often. I've never seen brown pasta eaten or offered over there. Can't say I fancy eating it over here either....

This thread is making me yearn for some pici al ragù served with saltless Tuscan bread though!

TheDipDapOfDestiny Wed 13-Mar-13 23:03:47

I've just recently started eating wholewheat pasta after a friend recommended it. I am really enjoying it, it is definitely more filling.

I've also substituted it in my childrens meals and they haven't even noticed and are eating it happily.

Valpollicella Wed 13-Mar-13 23:22:33

Nope. Tis an unknown thing among st my Italian contingent.

Some of the more progressive in the younger gen will eat it but it is kinda 'frowned upon' as not real pasta

Meglet Wed 13-Mar-13 23:26:51

I eat brown pasta, brown rice, bread etc. Sometimes buy white, I'm not anti white carbs.

Mum always made us wholemeal pizza and wholemeal treacle tart bases.

YouTheCat Wed 13-Mar-13 23:40:20

Italian side of family (Dad's) would not entertain brown pasta. It's bloody awful stuff.

I like the odd slice of decent wholemeal bread (but cheap wholemeal tastes like cardboard).

Brown rice is rank.

ReneandGeorgetteMagritte Wed 13-Mar-13 23:41:48

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet, but there is a big link between diabetes and rice, apparently brown basmati is the best one to eat to avoid this.

I realise this is just a link among many, but the source was the BMJ rather than the DM, so hopefully has more credibility!

In answer to the OP, I have always preferred wholemeal anything anyway, it has more taste imo, although not yorkshire pudding, victoria sponge, shortbread or sauces, I make those with unbleached white flour (poncey).

aldiwhore Wed 13-Mar-13 23:45:56

Mmmmm Meglet wholemeal treacletart bases are THE BEST. Fact.

BandersnatchCummerbund Thu 14-Mar-13 00:04:26

I only eat wholemeal pasta with tomato-based sauces. Everything else has to be white (and white is good for tomato sauces too, obviously).

Love brown rice, though! And white rice. And wild rice. Any kind of rice.

Cheap bread of ANY variety is the work of the devil. We are lucky to have an unbelievable German baker within walking distance. Heavy, chewy, dark, substantial seeded bread. And unbelievable cake as well. Heaven. I do still like good white bread - but real wholemeal bread tends to make white bread a bit unsatisfying in comparison.

sydlexic Thu 14-Mar-13 00:08:14

I eat whole meal pasta and I am Italian. Don't think many people in Italy do.

MusicalEndorphins Thu 14-Mar-13 00:17:23

Not Italian, but we only buy whole grain pasta. It is barely
"brown" in colour, and tastes great. Even my oldest son who said he "hates" whole wheat pasta admits it is ok. Maybe the brand is what makes a difference? We buy Catelli and Presidents Choice. I made whole wheat pasta once but used all whole wheat flour and it was grim. Later learned it is best to use half and half.
I don't like brown rice and quit trying to make it.
Dh is diabetic and was told to eat whole grains rather than white bread, pasta or rice.

anonymosity Thu 14-Mar-13 00:41:01

I love brown rice, but to me, brown pasta might as well be soggy cardboard.

Morloth Thu 14-Mar-13 05:43:27

It is OK to eat anything - just not too much of it.

If you like brown pasta have that, if you prefer white have that.

There aren't actually any 'rules'.

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 14-Mar-13 06:12:11

Not Italian but been here for 20 yrs. The wholemeal rice and pasta is in a different aisle in our supermarkets to the normal stuff. It's in the same aisle as the vitamins/gluten free/lactose free/diabetic/no sugar jam foods.

Never seen it advertised, and dh would be another plate thrower.

As far as good for you/slimming diets go, people here by and large still seem to hold the opinions that if you want to lose weight you should eat less pasta/bread ie carbs.

I don't mind brown rice but brown pasta just tastes brown.

PurplePidjin Thu 14-Mar-13 06:22:29

Pasta is healthy. Grating 500g of cheese over it isn't...

White all the way here!

Rosa Thu 14-Mar-13 06:29:53

We eat both. MIL would not even know brown stuff exists....

Bertrude Thu 14-Mar-13 06:40:52

Concur with PurplePidjin wholeheartedly

But cheese is what makes a pasta meal acceptable. Everything in the world should be served with the option of grated cheese on the top.

PurplePidjin Thu 14-Mar-13 08:01:55

Oh, no, some cheese is essential. A pound of cheap cheddar isn't shock

My parents only ever eat brown pasta so I was bought up with it. I prefer white for your every day hot pasta dishes, but brown pasta is lovely for pasta salad. OR brown spaghetti with pesto and cheese is nice.

I like brown rice as well...good with chilli, but it has to be basmati with curry.

Oh and yes, I much prefer brown bread...granary bread is LOVELY.

Magimedi Thu 14-Mar-13 08:13:22

AIBU to ask why this is in AIBU? grin

Brown rice, white pasta, but always an Italian variety.

Trills Thu 14-Mar-13 08:26:27

YABU to think that "do Italians do it?" is relevant to whether you should do it.

Everyone who states that a particular food is "healthy" or "unhealthy" is also BU.

limitedperiodonly Thu 14-Mar-13 08:35:31

brown rice, brown pasta and mass produced brown bread ( nice fresh brown loaves an exception) are about Punishment, not enjoyment. Food as fuel, medicine almost, rather than pleasure

Agree with chandon.

I used to sit next to someone who drove me crackers commenting on my packed lunch. 'Ooh, salad. That's healthy.' Someone explained to her that people eat salad because they like it and she looked confused.

She talked about being 'really good' or 'really naughty' about her eating and was always droning on about being overweight.

Why would I care what anybody else chooses to eat and what size they are?

firesidechat Thu 14-Mar-13 08:36:16

Brown pasta is just wrong.

Wholegrain rice is lovely, but takes forever to cook. I think someone else said that it is great with chilli and it really is!

Bunbaker Thu 14-Mar-13 08:55:55

"It is OK to eat anything - just not too much of it. If you like brown pasta have that, if you prefer white have that. There aren't actually any 'rules'."

I agree. There are some holier than thou posts on here..

KellyElly Thu 14-Mar-13 09:06:37

Brown pasta is the work of the devil!

101handbags Thu 14-Mar-13 12:44:47

I eat the whole & white pasta from sainsbury's, it's meant to be better for you but tastes just like white pasta. I don't like wholemeal pasta so I don't eat it.

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 14-Mar-13 20:40:36

Hi there
We have moved this to our food topic
Happy Wholewheat

twentythirteen Thu 14-Mar-13 20:42:47

Urgh, I hate brown pasta, OH likes it but secretly I think he has it because he thinks it's a healthier option rather than for the taste.

spiderlight Thu 14-Mar-13 20:46:44

I love brown pasta and rice. Cannot abide white.

AmberLeaf Thu 14-Mar-13 20:58:41

Im not Italian.

I usually use white egg pasta. I find egg pasta much tastier than normal white pasta.

Don't really like wholemeal pasta, that was all my Mum ever used when I was a child, she was a lentil weaver though so it was all wholegrains and legumes!

Brown rice is shit IMO. takes too long to cook and isn't worth the wait.

White Basmati is my rice of choice.

I love wholemeal/granary/seeded bread though.

LimeFlower Thu 14-Mar-13 21:19:05

I ate brown pasta and liked it.Brown rice is awful,takes aaaaages to cook and tastes like cardboard not that I'm fan of rice

hanahsaunt Thu 14-Mar-13 21:19:30

Sainsbury's does really nice whole & white pasta which is like having white pasta but with some wholegrain in it (not discernible) so a bit like eating 50:50 bread. We use it all the time for spaghetti, fusili and rigatoni.

I like the idea of brown rice but can't face whole plates of it so shoogle up a 50:50 mix of white and brown basmati in the storage tub and that seems a happy compromise on the health/taste front for all concerned.

snoworneahva Thu 14-Mar-13 21:56:42

Kids eat wholemeal pasta and brown rice, I introduced them last year and they were surprised by how little they objected to the flavour. They aren't too keen on wholemeal bread though. Dh and I don't eat starchy carbs.

snoworneahva Thu 14-Mar-13 22:04:44

And the brown pasta is served with a good extra virgin olive oil and loads of freshly grated Parmesan and always a richly flavoured slow cooked sauce. The texture of the pasta is pretty important, Ikea brown pasta has a rank texture, Waitrose essential brown pasta is pretty good.

Bunbaker Fri 15-Mar-13 08:06:02

"Dh and I don't eat starchy carbs."

We do grin and lots of fruit and veg. And we are all skinny.

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 08:12:11

Good for you bunbaker - smug much? grin

Bunbaker Fri 15-Mar-13 08:16:58

I only responded like that because the post I responded to came across as rather smug as well grin

BananaGio Fri 15-Mar-13 08:17:27

Italian based here. White only, has to be de cecco and the time you cook it for is crucial, 1 min too long and becomes meh. Very small selection of brown in supermarkets here and never seen in restaurants.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 15-Mar-13 08:17:39

Said the pot to the kettle.....

Bunbaker Fri 15-Mar-13 08:18:03

Yeah. You're right grin

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 15-Mar-13 08:18:25

(that was to snoworneahva btw)

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 15-Mar-13 08:18:57

Hey Gio, dd went to a pasta factory last week and so now we have to buy that brand always and forever grin

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 08:29:21

I'm just responding to everyone saying brown pasta tastes like crap - it doesn't but I'm sure it could taste like crap if you don't use it properly, I like cooking, we eat good food in our house - if that's smug, then ok I'm smug, I can live with that. grin

BananaGio Fri 15-Mar-13 09:09:09

bless dd NTG. Hope it wasnt one of the artigianale, cost 5 times more brands for your wallets sake.

Bunbaker Fri 15-Mar-13 09:22:04

Is there a real difference in taste between cheaper and more expensive pasta brands?

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 15-Mar-13 09:28:00

Yes. I think so. Rule of thumb from ex-chef Italian handsome swain is less in terms of cost, and more in terms of cooking time. If 2 packs of equally shaped pasta need 8mns and 12 mns respectively, the 12 min one will be better quality. Italians talk about "ruvida" (not smooth) pasta, and if you run your fingers along the stuff that takes longer to cook, it does feel almost bumpy in places.

Bunbaker Fri 15-Mar-13 09:41:01

Oh great, thanks for that.

I eat both brown and white pasta but consider them separate entities almost, ditto brown and white rice or bread. Sometimes you just fancy one over the other, it's perfectly acceptable to chop and change.

Agree that brown pasta needs tomato sauce and cheese sauce demands white pasta - likewise, bacon butties need white bread while smoked salmon commands wholemeal granary.

BeCool Fri 15-Mar-13 11:02:43

I'm not Italian, but I eat wholemeal pasta about 50% of the time.

If you struggle with brown rice, try brown basmati rice - which is completely utterly delicious and lovely - I'm serious!!!

I prefer white pasta, but quite like brown with certain sauces. Puttanesca and a pasta bake I do with mushrooms, sage and gruyere.
We usually have brown rice in most dishes, like salads or with anything soy sauce based. White rice goes with curry.

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 12:03:36

Completely agree that some sauces work better than others - but that is true for pasta in general. We love Orecchiette pasta with broccoli, chilli and garlic, with loads of oil and Parmesan - no other pasta works well with this combo and its so simple that the best quality pasta is essential and it has to be white! I give white pasta when we have play dates but occasionally we have run out and visiting children have had brown without even noticing and have asked for seconds.
Ikea pasta is cheap and impossible to cook properly, it's either chalky or soggy, but it's reindeer shaped so it passes the novelty test. Apart from that I have only ever done Waitrose or De Cecco wholemeal pasta and they are both fine. The brown rice is always basmati, haven't tried any others.

When I introduced the idea of brown rice and pasta, the kids were very negative but they gave it a go and they liked it, if they had hated it we wouldn't have continued.

Good tasting food is very important to us, I wouldn't eat crap tasting food just because it was healthy, to me most low fat, diet food tastes awful, we're trying to improve our health, it's a bit of a journey, we try thing things, some work, some don't - it is all about balance.....but we all have a different view of what balance is.

drwitch Fri 15-Mar-13 12:17:46

brown pasta works okay just if you serve it the english way (on the side or in a salad) but yuk if you serve it as a substitute for the proper stuff

brown rice okay but think if you are going to have something nutty and a bit chewy as a carb you might as well have pearl barley - cheaper and better for you

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 16:07:36

Drwitch I live in England and I don't know anyone who serves pasta as a side dish or salad as standard - is this really the English way? I would have said the English way was Spag Bol for main course.

Gales Fri 15-Mar-13 16:21:00

I can't get on with brown rice, you have to chew it forever.

I do usually use brown pasta, but it needs cooking for 5 mons linger than it says on the packet, then it tastes much like al dente white IMO

Can't tell the difference between wholemeal and white spaghetti though.

multitaskmama Fri 15-Mar-13 16:51:27

We eat only brown pasta and never white. We have been eating it for so many years that the we including kids don't even notice. Spaghetti is brown or wholewheat, we eat white rice as brown rice takes a while to cook, wholemeal bread and chapattis made with mix of wholewheat and white flour. On the whole, we always eat wholewheat. My son used to have chronic constipation so it just became part of our lifestyle.

limitedperiodonly Fri 15-Mar-13 18:20:51

drwitch i agree with you about barley v brown rice. I like barley and don't hate brown rice but God, it's penance that I don't want to pay.

And yes, snow British people do have the most mucked up ideas of food because of a mindless obsession with food as medicine,

I dread the idiot who's been on a five-a-day course who fucks up my cooking by saying: 'Hey, come on children, let's ruin your mum's ragu by putting sweetcorn and red peppers in it.'

fieldfare Fri 15-Mar-13 18:24:24

Dh is Italian and wouldn't eat brown pasta. His Dad would ask me wtf I was thinking!

I prefer wild rice or basmati.

louisianablue2000 Fri 15-Mar-13 18:30:34

White pasta is not the work of the devil, some so-called-food-expert 'nutritionalist' has learned a tiny bit of biochemistry out of context and thinks that because starchy carbs are broken down by your body into sugar that means they are as bad as sugar. It's bullshit. No dietician would ever say white pasta is bad for you.

FWIW we eat white pasta (de cecco), white rice (basmati) and mainly (but not exclusively) wholemeal bread.

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 19:17:49

Mind you the Italians are getting pretty fat now too. We visited last year and the kids were quite, actually they were very fat...I was a bit shocked after hearing all this talk about their healthy diet.

limitedperiodonly Fri 15-Mar-13 19:33:27

God forbid fat people. How horrifying.

ClairesTravellingCircus Fri 15-Mar-13 19:39:15

Thought this might be of interest:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21690003

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 21:26:36

High rates of childhood obesity is horrifying, lots of overweight 2 year olds is clearly a huge health issue, the current older generation may be outliving the rest of Europe but the younger generation are not showing many signs of being able to make the same claim - why would the decrease in the health of a nation not be horrifying? How did that happen in a country that prides itself in good food? confused

limitedperiodonly Fri 15-Mar-13 23:52:37

Well, I'm not fat, neither do I prescribe certain foodstuffs to my family for medicinal purposes.

Joyless munching in the pursuit of health when it's unnecessary and alarmist seems to me rather horrifying.

snoworneahva Sat 16-Mar-13 00:40:45

Limitedperiodonly you appear to have the whole thing sorted - well done! If only we all ate like you we wouldn't have an increasingly alarming obesity problem and neither would Italy. What should we do?

happyAvocado Sat 16-Mar-13 00:55:26

I like brown spaghetti, but not brown pasta
there's half/half pasta in Sainsburys, quite nice

ifancyashandy Sat 16-Mar-13 07:33:10

Limited what you consider 'joyless' others might actually enjoy eating. What with having different taste buds n'all..

babySophieRose Sat 16-Mar-13 11:41:48

I find the wholemeal pasta sweet in a way, do not like it.

pinkyredrose Sat 16-Mar-13 13:53:22

happy Spaghetti is pasta grin

Branleuse Sat 16-Mar-13 13:58:44

id rather starve than eat brown pasta

happyAvocado Sat 16-Mar-13 17:05:29

yes I know - but I distinguish wholemeal spaghetti for being very tasty whilst other shapes I tried so far weren't

I've been using wholemeal spaghetti for around 10 years and would not go back to the ordinary one.

Metukah Sat 16-Mar-13 17:16:36

I'm italian and I like brown pasta an brown rice.
Regular white pasta is healthy if you cook it 'al dente' it keeps its low GI.
There's nothing wrong to have pasta as carb. Just have plenty of vegetables with it smile

duchesse Sat 16-Mar-13 17:20:41

We eat both brown pasta and brown rice. Sometimes also buckwheat pasta. Also "bean" noodles when we make chinese or thai food. It's just got so much more...substance than the denatured versions. You don't feel like you're just eating pap- it feels like proper food ifswim.

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 17:48:14

Eat and enjoy. But if you use terms such as 'healthy' and 'quite nice' I'm going to think you see food as a penance and not want to eat with you.

And it's not anyone's business what size or shape anyone else is.

snoworneahva Sat 16-Mar-13 19:10:05

Think it might be someone's business if we are funding the management of the health problems that result from obesity.

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 20:00:14

And antibiotic misuse. And riding horses and motorbikes. And crossing the road without looking. And...

discrete Sat 16-Mar-13 20:13:38

The reality is that a lot of taste is about habit. I used to eat white pasta, then switched to semi-wholeweat because that is what I could get organic, then occasionally started eating wholewheat then switched to it completely. I now find white pasta tasteless and fairly horrible.

With rice, otoh, I always disliked white and only ever started loving it when I discovered brown. I'll still eat white/semi white risotto rice if it is very well prepared, but otherwise would rather give it a miss.

Many of the people on this thread who said brown rice/pasta is awful will admit to liking brown bread, so don't have anything in principle against whole wheats, just don't have the habit with pasta.

It may be related as well to the quality of pasta that people tend to get when buying white v. brown. I've often found that branding something as 'healthy' or sometimes even 'organic' is just an excuse to overprice shit. To make a fair comparison you need to get top quality of both.

Owllady Sat 16-Mar-13 20:20:11

white pasta isn't white it's yellow

snoworneahva Sat 16-Mar-13 20:24:18

I think obesity might be costing a wee bit more than all those things put together and what worse is that people are getting fatter, kids are getting fatter. Best not do anything about it - let them die! hmm

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 20:30:41

Do you really think that? Oh well.

duchesse Sun 17-Mar-13 00:23:25

there's a particularly good paragraph in this article about white rice and beriberi.

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