Any Paleo-eaters on Mumsnet?

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megandraper Sat 09-Mar-13 13:26:39

Thinking about going (mainly) Paleo for our family (DH & I plus DCs age 5, 3 and 1). Two of our children are coeliac, so we're already gluten-free - main changes would be weaning ourselves off sugar, white flour, processed food etc. I see the biggest challenge as getting the kids to change what they eat (although we've already successfully managed one big change with the more to gf). Breakfast is the first target - the kids like g-f breakfast cereal, toast, pancakes etc. They do eat boiled eggs, so that's one alternative, but can't do that every day. Snacks will be the next on the list.

Would love to hear from anyone who is eating Paleo, especially with kids. Tips about good recipes would be great.

TheYamiOfYawn Tue 19-Mar-13 14:25:33
megandraper Tue 19-Mar-13 14:09:35

thanks wombat. i came across great lakes but thought they were only in the US. Will check Amazon.

sleepywombat Tue 19-Mar-13 12:35:16

Re grass-fed gelatin - I got mine online.

Google Great Lakes - I think Amazon probably do it.

megandraper Tue 19-Mar-13 08:56:44

Thank you Yam - will try making the frittatas this weekend and freeze. I find that every time I introduce something new to my kids, I have to bribe them at first just to take a taste, and then (if I'm lucky) after a few repeats, they find they like it and don't need the bribe any more. They like boiled eggs but not omelettes - I think the muffin case size and cute look of these might swing it though.

And wombat - brilliant recipes thank you. Am going to try the gummy bears this weekend too.

Anyone know where to get grass-fed gelatin?!

TheYamiOfYawn Tue 19-Mar-13 08:32:01

For the frittatas, I mixveggs with whatever else I want (last batch was chopped cherry tomatoes, rocket and olives), put them in silicone muffin cases (or a well-greased muffin tray) and bake for around 25 minutes on gas mark 5 or 6.

There ate loads of fantastic paleo/primal food blogs. I will post some links later, but if you want to have a google, my favourites are Nom Nom Paleo (by a woman who had 2 young children and a full time job with uncivilized shifts), The Clothes Make the Girl and Primal Palate. I also love the ethos of Whole 30 which is a 30 day intro to paleo eating.

There is also a good blog called Paleo for Women which isn't really about food but is good for health and learning to love your body if you don't already.

snoworneahva Tue 19-Mar-13 08:20:46

Sleepywombat fantastic recipes - made the gummy stars this morning - <over keen> the kids loved them and are taking the lemon hearts to school for lunch - off to make a bulk purchase of gelatin. Raspberry and orange planned for later.

sleepywombat Tue 19-Mar-13 04:54:37
sleepywombat Tue 19-Mar-13 04:11:20

My family & I do GAPS, which is like Paleo, but more about healing rather than a lifestyle choice. It places more importance on probiotic foods & fats for example & dairy is allowed.

We got into it because baby ds2 had allergic ulcerative colitis & many other issues; he was allergic to my breastmilk & then reacted to every solid food & medicine he was given. The diet has been miraculous for him - he has gone from being a sick, ftt baby screaming all night long to a healthy, 'normal' toddler. We are all on the diet now as we all have little issues & obviously my body was pretty out of whack to produce ds2 in the first place.

We have omelettes for breakfast, usually I add in meat/veg leftovers & dh & ds1 have cheese in theirs. I give ds1 almond meal bread with peanut butter too. Sometimes we have fruit too. Gaps is big on pancakes - made of eggs, nut butter & courgette/squash. You can also make them with banana.

I still give ds1 treats, because I don't like him to feel deprived & so he can have cakes etc to take to birthday parties. Dates are an excellent sweetener: soak them in a little water for a few hours, then blend all together to make a paste to add to biscuit/cake batter. I also use honey sometimes. Maple syrup or agave not allowed on gaps. I think stevia in moderation is OK.

Juicing & smoothies always popular here. I do more veggies to fruit & add coconut oil, sourcream or yog to make smoothies.

This ice cream is yum:

detoxinista.com/2012/09/chocolate-coconut-milk-ice-cream/

Also gummy sweets:

www.mommypotamus.com/homemade-gummy-stars/

Other tricks are: chicken nuggets made with almond meal coating instead of breadcrumbs & oven baked; cauliflower 'rice'; veggie chips (strips of pumpkin, courgette, carrot, turnip etc coated in olive or cococnut oil & sea salt & grilled); 'spaghetti' made of strips of courgette (or spaghetti squash if you can get it).

EMUZ Tue 19-Mar-13 03:28:58

I eat (loosely!) Paleo as I do eat dairy (doesnt seem to affect me or weight loss)
Breakfast I often have full fat total yoghurt with berries and find it pretty filling. Omelettes are good too

megandraper Mon 18-Mar-13 09:54:17

Queen - I don't eat agave myself, or use it for cooking. DC1 adds it to things. I am going to switch to honey instead, having read about the concerns with agave. It would be nice to remove it altogether, but getting towards a good, varied diet has been a very tough journey with DC1, and I don't want to risk disrupting that by withdrawing things that make him happy to eat. He is extremely skinny, so weight is not an issue.

This article on sugar and children is really interesting.

Why do you need to use agave syrup? Fruit is naturally quite sweet anyway.

As you reduce the amount of processed food in your diet, there will be less and less sugar in your diets. Our appetite for sugar (natural or otherwise) has really decreased as our taste buds continue to adjust.

snoworneahva Sun 17-Mar-13 08:38:24

Bed hopper you can use maple syrup on a Paleo diet - I buy mine in bulk from lidl it's about half the price of the supermarket version.

snoworneahva Sun 17-Mar-13 08:37:14

It is a minefield but I think you have to see this as a journey, you're trying to improve your diet - it will never be perfect.....and the marketing people know which buttons to press.

Dh came back with a tub of Carte D'or last night, he thought because it said no artificial additives it was fine - one look at the long list of ingredients suggested it was expensive, cheap crap made from skimmed milk and veg fat, masquerading as a quality product - vanilla ice cream should only need cream, vanilla, eggs and sugar.

There's a blog Paleo Parents I think it's called, might be useful.

megandraper Sun 17-Mar-13 07:50:34

The Yam - I love the sound of the mini-frittatas in muffin cases that you can freeze and reheat - that could work for us.

Can you give me a recipe for the frittatas? And how do you reheat? Oven or microwave - how long for? Sounds great.

megandraper Sun 17-Mar-13 07:49:39

Snow/Queen - thank you for that link about agave. I did think that it was a 'more healthy' version of sugar and more healthy than honey. DC1 would be just as happy having honey, so I am going to swap over to that now.

It really is a minefield, isn't it, trying to provide healthy food.

Here's a succinct link about agave. Doesn't look good!

https://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-it-primal-7-more-foods-scrutinized/

TheYamiOfYawn Sat 16-Mar-13 08:18:14

I have been eating paleo for a couple of years now, and am so happy with my choice. The kids eat a standard diet, but I'm planning to start gradually switching over for meals at home, at least to a more Weston a Price tye diet. Good breakfasts are boiled eggs, mini fitattas baked in muffin cases, kept in the freezer and reheated, meatballs, tuna mayo scooped up on romaine leaves, all with fruit or veg sticks. Also leftovers.

Willowisp Sat 16-Mar-13 00:22:51

Thanks - I'm interested in Weston A Price et Al, who are quoted & essentially anti agave. I think I will contact the manufacturers of the 2 x products I have & ask some questions. smile

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 21:49:26

I'm not an expert but I know that fructose is not good!!!! And they have been very clever about how they have marketed it, just as the HFCS people initially pushed its lack of insulin raising qualities, till people saw what it actually did to the body.

"Because fructose is digested in your liver, it is immediately turned into triglycerides or stored body fat. Since it doesn’t get converted to blood glucose like other sugars, it doesn’t raise or crash your blood sugar levels. Hence the claim that it is safe for diabetics.

But it isn’t.

That’s because fructose inhibits leptin levels — the hormone your body uses to tell you that you’re full. In other words, fructose makes you want to eat more. Besides contributing to weight gain, it also makes you gain the most dangerous kind of fat.

This has been verified in numerous studies. The most definitive one was released just this past year in the Journal of Clinical Investigation. The full study is available online, but for the sake of space I’m including Stephan’s (of Whole Health Source fame) summary here:""

Try googling but here's a link to the quote above to get you started

agave good or bad

Willowisp Fri 15-Mar-13 21:37:31

snoworneahva I use agave syrup & am interested in what you are saying. I avoid fructose, but understood that agave, depending on how 'pure' it is, is ok.

Can you tell me more ?

snoworneahva Fri 15-Mar-13 18:19:29

Bed hopper I have heard v bad things about - agave syrup - it contains high levels of fructose which although don't affect blood sugar as much as sucrose they are not great for the liver - it's often compared to High Fructose Corn Syrup. Would your dc have honey, maple syrup or even sugar, I think these may be preferable from a health perspective. Apologises if you have considered all this already and have decided on agave anyway but many people are unaware of its health implications.

megandraper Fri 15-Mar-13 10:59:22

DH and I, and DC2 and DC3 have Eat Natural muesli which is fairly paleo (it has a bit of buckwheat in but otherwise is just nuts, raisins and seeds) and the DCs and I have fruit with it. I may work on getting them to have it with coconut milk instead of cow's milk.

DC1 is an obstinate fruit-hater, and won't eat muesli either. He has a kids breakfast cereal with agave syrup and a slice of ham or a boiled egg on the side. That is the best I can do for the moment, but I am not satisfied with it. The cereal is too sugary and not nutritious enough. More work to be done!

bigkidsdidit Fri 15-Mar-13 09:49:25

I do a halfway version, really; I like the idea and think it is healthy but can't do it all the time, I work FT and have a toddler and need to do him a packed lunch etc. So we eat lentils and peas and sweetcorn, and I bake the odd small loaf of bread so we can have avocado or boiled egg on toast if really rushed.

For breakfast we do the same as a pp and mostly have greek yogurt with chopped banana and chopped apple.

Off to read about primal which might be more suited to my life!

megandraper Fri 15-Mar-13 09:45:19

I am new to paleo, Totem, but as I understand it, it's back to caveman days - so hunter gatherer stuff - meat, fish, nuts, fruit and veg. I guess if you go back far enough, we all came from Africa and migrated out from there!
Carbs are from fruit and veg.

No grains, legumes, dairy, or processed food.

Primal seems to be a more achievable version of paleo (some dairy allowed). I am looking at this website about it

http://www.primalbritain.co.uk/primal-britain-diet-guide/

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