So is Atonement as good as they say it is?(58 Posts)
I will see it Monday, has anybody been yet?
I'm not keen on Keira Knightley unfortunately, she already ruined P & P for me, James McAvoy could well make up for that though!
I hate the KK bashing.
I think she is well cast in the film.
Just come back to this thread while the film is on tv, and I think what you say is very interesting wildpatch.
I agree completely with Emkana - I normally can't stand KK, especially in Pride & Prejudice. She is just too modern and smiles too much.
But this was just the right era for her, and she was fabulous, I thought.
Having said that I'd forgotten that Atonement was my least favourite of his books, and I didn't particularly enjoy the film.
Some of the photography was superb, but the plot and the characters just didn't touch me: it left me cold and unmoved, when I'd expected it to be gut-wrenching.
from the way they showed the characters of the adults. responsible. honourable people. her dad paid for him to go to cambridge? allowed im to interact with his children so much so that they were happy to have him in their lives so much. hewas practically one of the family. despite being the housekeepers son, and in different social class. he was exceptionally bright, and they encouraged it. they also entrusted their young children with him. for example the young briony out swimming with him when she jumped in and he had to save her from drowning. the ease with which the brother invited him to dinner, despite entertaining such a rich cad. he could easily have decided to be snobby about the class difference in front of the rich chocolate bloke.
so this guy is a respected memebr of the household. something soooo big could not, and would not be pinned on him just by the say so of an adolescent child.
i know of a household in which a 15 year old boy sold the family computer and tried to blame the servant. the only thing protecting the servant was the familiies knowledge of his character. the father of the family refused to allow the servant to be blamed, and accused the 15 year old of character assasination as well.
if the family has some honour at all, then the servants will be trustworthy and honourable as well. old retainer types. i think this used to be a difference between old money and new money as well.
i hope i am explaining it properly. i was very very upset by how hislife was completley ruined by the say so of one adolescent hormonal child. i'mnot saying that this sort of thing could neverhappen. sadly it could and did, all the time. i just dont think in this instance it coould have, because of the way they showed the characters.
That's interesting, Wildpatch, can you elaborate?
the ending was horrible.
after much soul searvhing, remembering of such societies, i have come to the conclusion, that the situation described could not have happened. not withthe characters shown the way the were.
so a good film artititically. but horrible y innacurate portrayal of the society
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I enjoyed it although still frustrated by how they ended it, like the book. It's quite a faithful adaptation.
I don't normally like KK either but thought she portrayed Cecilia quite well.
All the actresses who played Briony were very good.
I thought it was superb. I loved the book, and was kind of half expecting the film to not match up to it, but it definitely did. KK portrayed the role very well I thought - and usually I find her intensely irritating. JM wonderful - so expressive. Lola fab - really brought that character to life. In fact I can't really think of any weak spots!
I really enjoyed it. I can't usually stand KK but she was perfect in this, very Brief Encounter. JM is gorgeous, haven't seen him in anything else, but what a hunk, even if he's only 3" tall. I found the erotic tension between them very believable. No-one's mentioned the redhaired twins and Lola who were also fabulous. The Dunkirk scene was very striking, unwatchably horrible, but also mesmerising. The only false note for me was that during the walk across France I kept being reminded of Stella Artois ads.
I enjoyed it. Am not sure if it deserves the 5 stars Empire awarded it.
I haven't read the book so maybe someone here who has read it can tell me, does it go into much more detail as to the relationship of Cecelia and Robbie pre the infamous night. Obviously there was sexual tension galore but I'm always deeply at great professions of true love post (or during) 1st shag.
Anyway that was really the only thing that niggled.
Green dress amazing.
Acually really liked Keira in it, thought she did snippy upper class bird v well.
Beach scene also amazing. I'm always really gobsmacked at those done all in one shot scenes. Empire made a good point that that scene counterbalances the 'landing' beach scene in Saving Private Ryan really well.
I also wondered if the director was having a tiny dig at standards of hygene and cleanliness in our NHS hospitals with the scene of Briony and her mate scrubbing those beds.
Won't be putting it in my top 20 movies list though (not that i really have one).
Well I enjoyed it.
Keira and James captured that posh formality of hiding a need for a good old bit of rumpy really well I thought.
I haven't read the book so didn't know what to expect. The Dunkirk beach scene was amazing. I jumped out of my seat at the shooting of the horses - blub .
I thought the atmosphere was very poignant.
The continuity of the three Briony's was very clever.
Films often don't match up to the book but not having read the book I took it on face value and had an enjoyable evening at the cinema with my giant bag of pic n' mix .....
James (whether he be 3ft or 6ft) is a joy to watch morphing from a happy young man on the brink of life to the mature character he became.
Keira needs some booblies - but the green dress was stunning !!!!!!!!
I liked it but to me, yes, it is over rated.
Just been to watch it. Mum wasn't interested, I have to drag DH to really good films and my sister had already seen it so I went on my own. DH is a very cheap babysitter.
I liked it. I rate JM as an actor anyway, he's great in Becoming Jane. Must now go and read both the books just to see how much of a rip off it is.
I thought it was overall very successful but KK is so annoying.
I loathe that thing she does with her mouth
and the way she waddles like a penguin
and when she stands with her arms poking out
James M was exceptional though
Romola Garai was marvellous too, and the the actor playing the young Briony.
I sobbed at the end
I thought the best thing about the film was her green dress. I was so disappointed with the film overall - it just didn't pack a big enough punch emotionally for me, I think neither Knightly nor Mc Avoy were strong enough - he is small!! and not at all convincing. To much emphasis on being very arty - I think the director tried too hard in parts.
SO so so disappointed.
Should have watched The Bourne Ultimatum again.
I think it's worth seeing for the visuals alone - some beyond beautiful scenes and the Dunkirk one shot wonder is just amazing. KK is just short of convincing but he is splendid. I agree with the 4 stars the Guardian gave it, I think it'll just miss at the Oscars too for her and for best film, but he'll get one and so will the cinematography.......
It is one of my favourite ever books. So I am prepared to be disappointed. But I also love James Macavoy (bet I'm the only one who found Mr Tumnus disturbingly sexy..) and I think twill be a visual feast...
There's a lot of really noisy sighing all the way through that i found alarming. It looks very nice though.
James McAvoy is adorable.
Even though he looks about 3 foot tall!
I would go and see James Macavoy if he was playing a half man/half biscuit hybrid horror.
and i would still fancy him
incredibly disturbing book though, I am bracing myself
I'd love to see it but dp doesn't really like the cinema and it seems a waste of a babysitter. I will have to find someone else to go with but I've asked a couple of friends who don't really fancy it.
No was joking about Narnia...of course
Enjoyed it but was shocked. Will say no more as don't want to spoil it.
Just seen it. I thought it was brilliant and could not stop thinking about it today. Also found Keira annoying in other films but to be fair I thought she was really good in this. I would make the effort to see it at the cinema as its lovely to look at and you get more caught up in it than just watching at home.
Though one of the mums I went with is Canadian and on a few occasions I had to translate.
I read the book but like emkana there were bits of the book I just couldnt remember. Probably because I skipped most of the war passages as hate reading about it.
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