Mary Daly Reading Group

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Prolesworth Thu 13-Oct-11 13:43:54

As discussed over here - some of us are up for having an ongoing reading group to work through those texts that don't lend themselves to the usual monthly book club format.

So it's been suggested that we kick off with Mary Daly's Beyond God The Father: toward a philosophy of women's liberation (bonus: it's available for cheap on Amazon marketplace)

We could keep this unstructured and just post here as and when, or have some sort of schedule eg one chapter per fortnight/month. I favour a bit of structure myself.

Any thoughts as to how this could work best for you?

hi. glad to see this proles. i started reading this over summer and it is pretty intense - loved what i read but found it needed so much processing.

will dig it back out and see where i got to later and get back to you.

PrideOfChanur Thu 13-Oct-11 14:46:34

So is the idea that this'll replace discussing Beyond God The Father in the non-fiction bookclub? It was set to be November's book, wasn't it?

I think some structure would be helpful and a chunk per fortnight sounds good to me - personally I think monthly might be too big a gap,and result in discussion losing momentum.Would like to hear what others think.

Prolesworth Thu 13-Oct-11 14:49:01

Yes I agree, one chunk per month is not enough, one a week might be difficult to keep up with: fortnightly seems a good plan.

I hadn't noticed that BGTF was down for November's non-fiction book club blush

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 13-Oct-11 21:03:44

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TenderlyLovinglyByAGoat Thu 13-Oct-11 21:07:09

is it as upsetting as gyn/ecology?

Prolesworth Thu 13-Oct-11 21:13:28

Thumbs up to SGM's suggested way forward

Tenderly, I'm sorry I don't know - haven't started reading BGTF yet. I know what you mean about Gyn/Ecology though. I had to stop reading it about a third of the way through, couldn't cope with any more at that time. But I definitely want to go back to that one.

i wasn't finding it 'upsetting' as such but i don't know, there was something quite devastating about it. it was spelling out for me where i am and how i got here and how there is no real way back.

Prolesworth Thu 13-Oct-11 21:33:00

This is why I thought an ongoing reading group might work better for these books: reading them can be a pretty intense process so I thought it might be good to have some company on the road, you know?

yes. there are so many links you know? it would be good to be able to discuss both the content and ideas of the book and the implications and effects of what was read upon the individual.

incidentally it was the first book i'd read in a long time and particularly outside of study that i had to write notes all over and keep underlining things - basically barely a page passed without having to scribble and underline and have my head buzz things around trying out the ideas on different experiences and situations of my own for fit. and there was a lot of 'fit'.

sorry i'm waffling vaguely because i'm aware you haven't read any yet.

is november a bit far off for one chapter? if it goes too slow i find i lose momentum and worse still forget.

Prolesworth Fri 14-Oct-11 10:00:55

I know what you mean; reading Gyn/Ecology was just like that for me. Dizzying!

So the plan is to read the first three chapters for the regular November nonfiction book club (because you're right, one chapter doesn't seem enough) and then bring it over to this thread to continue. Does that sound OK to you?

i'm sure i've read first three already but i go back over them for the book club. will you remind me though? i always miss it.

grab me before then if you start reading and fancy talking about it - on fb or whatever.

Prolesworth Fri 14-Oct-11 10:46:21

Will do, I'm going to make a Big Effort to stick at this (I'm usually bloody hopeless at keeping up with book club)

StewieGriffinsMom Fri 14-Oct-11 10:48:19

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PrideOfChanur Fri 14-Oct-11 20:46:37

Thanks for sorting this,Prolesworth and SGM.I am off on holiday now with BGTF as one of my holiday reads smile.

Prolesworth Fri 14-Oct-11 21:36:32

ooh where are you off to PoC? Have a great time wine

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 16-Nov-11 17:21:31

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vezzie Wed 23-Nov-11 13:37:19

Is this the right place to discuss BGTF? Is there a date or an agenda or certain sections, or just general chat any time?
My last 2 attempts to contribute to book threads on here were met with stony silence sad

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 23-Nov-11 13:44:09

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Prolesworth Wed 23-Nov-11 13:48:19

just go for it vezzie, chat away: I could do with a spur to get on with it (still on the early bit of chapter 1 here blush)

SweetTheSting Tue 29-Nov-11 12:44:12

Haven't got very far yet but I will lurk tomorrow night!

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SweetTheSting Thu 01-Dec-11 09:58:43

Thanks for your thoughts, SGM. Gives me something to bear in mind when I read.

PrideOfChanur Fri 02-Dec-11 14:42:43

I am loving this,having nearly given up because I found the intro to my version so impenetrable..."since Crones understand thirteen to be an auspicious number,the timing would seem to be Crone-logical" was my favorite confused sentence.
Liked "women are in a unique sense called to be the bearers of existential courage in society"
I was struck by the passage in which she speaks about the male Jesus,and how the fact he was a man trumps all other aspects of his life,with regard to how women are treated in the church - women cannot be priests because priests are identified with the "man" Jesus, but this doesn't apply to ethnicity,age,any other characteristic which he possessed.It made me realise how very strongly women are seen as "other".

Like the "superhero names",SGM. It's the freedom of choosing a name to represent yourself,or aspects of yourself,without all the baggage attached in RL.

SweetTheSting Sun 04-Dec-11 15:37:19

I think we have the same edition, Pride - I eventually decided to skip the intro. I think it must be for people who'd already read the book when it first came out and so knew the specific language she used (which is presumably defined in the book later...).

Anyway, still haven't got very far but I also underlined the passage about the maleness of Jesus as one to come back to!

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Prolesworth Fri 06-Jan-12 09:45:48

Oh that's funny, because I enjoyed the intro so much and then I was a little disappointed when I started the first chapter and it's written so differently, a more conventional style of writing I suppose. I like the poetic/incantational style of writing in the intro and the way she works with words.

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Prolesworth Sat 07-Jan-12 00:24:25

Signed! How cool is that? Touched by Mary's hands!

I'm off to add Outercourse to my wish list

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Prolesworth Sat 07-Jan-12 01:06:30

what a brilliant inscription - wow, did you know it was signed when you bought it?

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Prolesworth Sat 07-Jan-12 01:09:28

How brilliant - you must've been meant to get that message somehow smile What a find!

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